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Is it just me or does Dark Force have faces on each side as an allusion to his multidimensional nature? As 3D beings we cannot actually see more than three dimensions, so like a multi-faced Hindu God they added in the extra faces to suggests DF's interdimensional nature. I'd like to see a remake of this game where they can go to some post-game save file secret dungeon and face the Profound Darkness. With this party Megid = boom, dead.
And yeah, DF is much harder than MB, IMO, esp when he uses that Dark Force ability to gimp your party. I used to pray for the Neisword White Light to restore my party!
nice orginal team....i think everyone chooses rolf, rudo, anna, and amy. I cant say anything though because that was my team back in the day also. good stuff! :-)
When I beat PSII many years ago Dark Force wasted a lot of turns casting useless evil. I was expecting a battle like this vid but he was a pushover on my game.
Well, Shir is not so bad. Since she is very quick, equip her some sleeves or emel (both hands) and she becomes a tank... She can become the "item user" of the party... Always quicker than monsters to use the snow crown, starmists and whatsoever... Then use the stormgear and have constant damage regardless the armor. Some say "you could use Anna for this...." It is true but using Anna for this purpose will not reduce her number of attacks per fight, also, 1 slicer is way not enough, none=meh!
@Gintonnikk - Also, Anna is more useful against multiple enemies. Bosses? Meh. Her biggest advantage against bosses is her high agility, but Shir's agility is high, too. Plus, she can use Nazan a few times before going back to her weapons.
I just beat this game and man this guy was the hardest enemy in the game. It doesnt matter how many healing items or how high your level is, is he posses all your characters like he did me several times and the neisword refuses to shine then youre screwed. its so cheap.
Hugh isn't actually that bad: he is LETHAL against living non-boss enemies. And not too bad against the last boss, as he has some heals etc. Better than Anna I think.
Kain is worse, as he's a mech-focused version of Hugh, and they become quite rare and are (I think) non-existent i the last dungeon.
My last party when I did this at about 12 years old was Rolf, Rudo, Hugh and Kain. And we were under-levelled, heh. Still won.
Kain actually isn't a bad choice in the endgame. For some reason, his anti-mech techniques also work against "unnatural" monsters, including Dark Force and all the monsters in the last five dungeons.
@placozoan i concur. kain is the shit against mechs, and against the "evil alligned" non-biomonster enemies, as in the dezo dungeons and spaceship noah, and even dark force. his techs are as strong as rolf's. (excluding megid, which really is a waste of TP, and the party's HP, and techs/items to restore HP, and the player turns it takes to do so anyway.) using rolf's attack/nathu or nafoi, rudo's neishot, kain's nagaj, and amy on the defense, one can defeat dark force in very few turns.
@Mastereddy5 I say that Rolf, Rudo, Anna and switch Kain for Amy. There u go. Good team. As u can see in this video, rolf had 290 hp, look at my video "Dark force second attempt Ps2" u can see that rolf has 190 and i still beat him quite easily.
Whoa! Did I just see someone kick Dark Force's ass with the weakest party combination ever?! Oh Hell yeah! I had to re-watch this vid because it's hard to believe you defeated that boss with Shir & Hugh in the party.
great video! I just downloaded this game for xbox 360 arcarde. I love that a game that I loved as a kid is now on a next gen console and you can get achievements!! Rock on PS2!!! PS: Rolf, Rudo, Anna, and Amy is the best combo to beat the game...:-)
Well, sort of. I wanted to use each character against at least one of the final bosses to show off their abilities (or lack thereof, in Hugh's case). The story was written around that objective.
hugh and rudo were always my fave. i almost never used anna and only shir for stealin moon dews and star mists from that shop. i rather use amy in a group
You can't control the "Cursed" character on their turn: They Either; Become unmotivated (Weakened Strength/Agility), Try and retreat from battle, or could possibly steal vital items needed for this fight (Star Mist or Moon Dew) Either way you need to be heavily prepared for this: If you are planning to use Megido, then have lots of Star Mists on hand. I personally use Nafoi myself, Megido is too risky in a battle like this; Megido takes Half of all members HP except lead and used for damage.
Actually, the damage Megid does is independent of the HP of your allies. Megid will do just as much damage if Rolf is alone as it will if he has a full party. Allies losing half their HP is just some sort of extra price to pay for the spell.
Character that is cursed can't act on their turn; They will either become unmotivated (Weakened Strength/Agility), Steal vital items from other members, or try to run from battle.
It doesn't work that way unfortunately. The Neisword will randomly break the curse between rounds. Sometimes it flat out never comes to your rescue and you're screwed. I've lost this fight before with all my characters on level 50 for that reason.
For those that KNOW all of the Phantasy Star games well, you may or may not agree with me that this incarnation of DARK FORCE is the best looking, most terrifying. More so than the Dark Force in PSIII, the Dark Forces in PSIV and even more than the Profound Darkness.
totally..he looks REALLY menacing here..although he looks WELL-DRAWN and NICELY ANIMATED in PSIV (same goes for PF), he looks WAY more TERRIFYING AND FORMIDABLE in PSII.
UGH, i hated fighting this boss. It was a pretty cool concept with having your characters become 'evil', but it was just SO annoying cause it took forever for the NeiSword to kick in. Your characters were interesting....probably added to the challenge of course. For me its the usual Amy, Rudo, and Anna...but sometimes I might go with Kain, because he's pretty useful during the Mother Brain battle.
This is a very hard boss fight. Even at high levels if you don't get a good roll of the dice, he can kill you. I've had it before where he possesses everybody, and the NeiSword never comes to my rescue, and he just kills them off. Mother Brain is much easier.
When a video has "Let's Play" in the title I expect there to be some sort of commentary. Other than that everything is fine.
MrGhostMark 1 month ago
@MrGhostMark This video is an accompaniment to the thread linked in the video description, which is where the commentary is.
placozoan 1 month ago
@placozoan Makes sense. I cannot view said thread though.
MrGhostMark 1 month ago
Hey everybody! I have released my new album 'Progenitor' which has electronic music inspired by great games such as the Phantasy Star series. You can check it out and download it for free on my youtube channel if you're interested!
ORTmusic 5 months ago
Is it just me or does Dark Force have faces on each side as an allusion to his multidimensional nature? As 3D beings we cannot actually see more than three dimensions, so like a multi-faced Hindu God they added in the extra faces to suggests DF's interdimensional nature. I'd like to see a remake of this game where they can go to some post-game save file secret dungeon and face the Profound Darkness. With this party Megid = boom, dead.
jaymthegenius 8 months ago
Wow, you beat him w/o using Megid...
When I beat him, I had:
- RolF/Rudo/Anna/Kain
- ABout 3 Star Mist/Moon Dew apiece
- Megid Technique
And yeah, DF is much harder than MB, IMO, esp when he uses that Dark Force ability to gimp your party. I used to pray for the Neisword White Light to restore my party!
But good post.
ANinja11 1 year ago
i can't beat this game the weapons are hard to find !
KaiserVadin 1 year ago
I like how relaxing the music is.
NuclearRadio 1 year ago
Die monster! You don't belong in th-...
Oops, wrong game.
supaflystrikes 1 year ago 2
nice orginal team....i think everyone chooses rolf, rudo, anna, and amy. I cant say anything though because that was my team back in the day also. good stuff! :-)
921144666 1 year ago
he has the face of ALIEN
kushannn 1 year ago
Damn he's ugly! Die horribly you disembodied bastard!
Armalizilto 1 year ago
It's nice to see a party other than Rolf, Rudo, Anna and Kain, which is so expected. I like the challenge of using the other characters.
toomanynotes1 2 years ago
When I beat PSII many years ago Dark Force wasted a lot of turns casting useless evil. I was expecting a battle like this vid but he was a pushover on my game.
noneckboy 2 years ago
Well, Shir is not so bad. Since she is very quick, equip her some sleeves or emel (both hands) and she becomes a tank... She can become the "item user" of the party... Always quicker than monsters to use the snow crown, starmists and whatsoever... Then use the stormgear and have constant damage regardless the armor. Some say "you could use Anna for this...." It is true but using Anna for this purpose will not reduce her number of attacks per fight, also, 1 slicer is way not enough, none=meh!
Gintonnikk 2 years ago
@Gintonnikk - Also, Anna is more useful against multiple enemies. Bosses? Meh. Her biggest advantage against bosses is her high agility, but Shir's agility is high, too. Plus, she can use Nazan a few times before going back to her weapons.
toomanynotes1 2 years ago
I just beat this game and man this guy was the hardest enemy in the game. It doesnt matter how many healing items or how high your level is, is he posses all your characters like he did me several times and the neisword refuses to shine then youre screwed. its so cheap.
keeto787 2 years ago
Hugh rocks, he learns some more useful abilities when he stops learning is biomonster skills
Puremage91694 2 years ago 2
Hugh isn't actually that bad: he is LETHAL against living non-boss enemies. And not too bad against the last boss, as he has some heals etc. Better than Anna I think.
Kain is worse, as he's a mech-focused version of Hugh, and they become quite rare and are (I think) non-existent i the last dungeon.
My last party when I did this at about 12 years old was Rolf, Rudo, Hugh and Kain. And we were under-levelled, heh. Still won.
Ratonga 2 years ago
Kain actually isn't a bad choice in the endgame. For some reason, his anti-mech techniques also work against "unnatural" monsters, including Dark Force and all the monsters in the last five dungeons.
placozoan 2 years ago 2
Oh? I recall hearing that somewhere, but never did verify.
All the better I think.
Ratonga 2 years ago
@placozoan i concur. kain is the shit against mechs, and against the "evil alligned" non-biomonster enemies, as in the dezo dungeons and spaceship noah, and even dark force. his techs are as strong as rolf's. (excluding megid, which really is a waste of TP, and the party's HP, and techs/items to restore HP, and the player turns it takes to do so anyway.) using rolf's attack/nathu or nafoi, rudo's neishot, kain's nagaj, and amy on the defense, one can defeat dark force in very few turns.
jasonmalice 7 months ago
The best team are Rolf,Rudo,kain and Anna perfert team work.
Mastereddy5 2 years ago
@Mastereddy5 I say that Rolf, Rudo, Anna and switch Kain for Amy. There u go. Good team. As u can see in this video, rolf had 290 hp, look at my video "Dark force second attempt Ps2" u can see that rolf has 190 and i still beat him quite easily.
Prophallus88 1 year ago
Whoa! Did I just see someone kick Dark Force's ass with the weakest party combination ever?! Oh Hell yeah! I had to re-watch this vid because it's hard to believe you defeated that boss with Shir & Hugh in the party.
Resvrgam 2 years ago 6
This is one of the hardest games ever that is still possible to beat.
that stupid turning people evil move is the cheapest crap I have lost when everyone was uncontrollable.
InfidelAntichristian 2 years ago
dang tell me about it! "crushed by despair" was my most hated "evil"!!!
cyrusvail 2 years ago
great video! I just downloaded this game for xbox 360 arcarde. I love that a game that I loved as a kid is now on a next gen console and you can get achievements!! Rock on PS2!!! PS: Rolf, Rudo, Anna, and Amy is the best combo to beat the game...:-)
MeTaLeDgEbLaDe 2 years ago
I could never beat this guy.
WeAreDevo456 2 years ago
Why did you use Shir? She's awful.
Best team is Rolf, Rudo, Amy, and Kain.
Kain is great because he deals massive damage to robotics and Mother Brain. Therefore placing him in the top 3 best characters in that game.
Lrdvltr 2 years ago
Story purposes. Better explained if you read the thread.
Mordaedil 2 years ago
Well, sort of. I wanted to use each character against at least one of the final bosses to show off their abilities (or lack thereof, in Hugh's case). The story was written around that objective.
placozoan 2 years ago
I never got this far, thanks for showing me what it was like.
The music is a bit disapointing after the normal battle music was so cool for its day.
l0stndamned 2 years ago
For shame Shir.
Valis77 2 years ago 2
i use rolf and rudo only but at this point they r at level 50 so its all good
finalfantasyrules222 2 years ago
That looks like Dark Falz...
mark4050 2 years ago
Because it is he is in all 4 games the whole Dark falz thing was a mistake in translation.
Evilmonkey66699 2 years ago 3
yeah it was called dark phallos in the original jp version and you know what *cough* *cough*
Veke99 2 years ago 2
wow... Shir and Hugh are so useless
SlowDaddie 3 years ago
hugh and rudo were always my fave. i almost never used anna and only shir for stealin moon dews and star mists from that shop. i rather use amy in a group
jogu78 3 years ago
this battle was VERY easy for me. Rolf was level 30.
Veke99 3 years ago
lol! shire turn traitor runs and fails.
Valis77 3 years ago 2
LOL. this brings back old memories when I first go my Sega genesis.
animeultrafan 3 years ago
Just wondering, what happens when evil is cursed on your party?
MushroomBoy64 3 years ago
You can't control the "Cursed" character on their turn: They Either; Become unmotivated (Weakened Strength/Agility), Try and retreat from battle, or could possibly steal vital items needed for this fight (Star Mist or Moon Dew) Either way you need to be heavily prepared for this: If you are planning to use Megido, then have lots of Star Mists on hand. I personally use Nafoi myself, Megido is too risky in a battle like this; Megido takes Half of all members HP except lead and used for damage.
Ryan91487 3 years ago
taking half of allies HP execpt the caster and turns it into damage, imagine using that with all allies at level 99
RPGFan28 3 years ago
Actually, the damage Megid does is independent of the HP of your allies. Megid will do just as much damage if Rolf is alone as it will if he has a full party. Allies losing half their HP is just some sort of extra price to pay for the spell.
Crystalgate 2 years ago
Also the level cap is 50.
Still, I was able to beat them long before I learned the technique. Rolf was level 28, Amy was level 25, and Rudo and Anna were 27.
THEmuteKi 2 years ago
Character that is cursed can't act on their turn; They will either become unmotivated (Weakened Strength/Agility), Steal vital items from other members, or try to run from battle.
Evil can be dispelled by the Neisword at random
Ryan91487 3 years ago
But can't you use the Neisword by choosing it from the item list?
MushroomBoy64 3 years ago
It doesn't work that way unfortunately. The Neisword will randomly break the curse between rounds. Sometimes it flat out never comes to your rescue and you're screwed. I've lost this fight before with all my characters on level 50 for that reason.
YieArKungFu 3 years ago
I like name of the techs in Phantasy Star :)
Foi, Thu, Zan etc
Redfoxe 3 years ago
For those that KNOW all of the Phantasy Star games well, you may or may not agree with me that this incarnation of DARK FORCE is the best looking, most terrifying. More so than the Dark Force in PSIII, the Dark Forces in PSIV and even more than the Profound Darkness.
turbografx 3 years ago
totally..he looks REALLY menacing here..although he looks WELL-DRAWN and NICELY ANIMATED in PSIV (same goes for PF), he looks WAY more TERRIFYING AND FORMIDABLE in PSII.
cyrusvail 3 years ago
I think he looks pretty damn evil in the original PS for the Master System.
YieArKungFu 3 years ago
This thing can give me nightmares. That thing he does when he curses a party member is just CREEPY!
DDRPaladin356 3 years ago 2
this boss is tougher than mother brain in my opinion
jimtrash 3 years ago 14
i agree with you
redfalconxx 3 years ago
That's one of my favorite games of all time.
GimbleTheWizard 3 years ago
UGH, i hated fighting this boss. It was a pretty cool concept with having your characters become 'evil', but it was just SO annoying cause it took forever for the NeiSword to kick in. Your characters were interesting....probably added to the challenge of course. For me its the usual Amy, Rudo, and Anna...but sometimes I might go with Kain, because he's pretty useful during the Mother Brain battle.
DDRPaladin356 4 years ago
This is a very hard boss fight. Even at high levels if you don't get a good roll of the dice, he can kill you. I've had it before where he possesses everybody, and the NeiSword never comes to my rescue, and he just kills them off. Mother Brain is much easier.
YieArKungFu 4 years ago
looks similar to dark falz from Phantasy Star on the SMS
tenantennae 4 years ago
All dark forces looks similar in PS series.
Valis77 3 years ago
chattery teeth of DOOM!
Pyromidhead 4 years ago 4
this is the first time i have seen any one use shir at the end of the game!! Give your self a challenge why dont ya!!!!!!
921144666 4 years ago
This guy is impossible. I only beat him because of a game glitch where Rudo turned traitor and tried to run, and it worked.
crawdkenny 4 years ago
hard ass game
silverfox799 4 years ago 4
dark force is the hell
nice how you beat him whit bad chars like hugh
and shir
killbad999 4 years ago 2
Hugh isn't entirely bad. He just becomes useless when mother brain is "broken" and the monsters are replaced by robots
dataridden 4 years ago
good ol' dark force...hard as hell when i first fought him
redfalconxx 4 years ago
Rad. I like how Dark Force brought out the worst in the people in your party.
XenoNinja 4 years ago