Man do I hate that Cavalryman got sent to Godolphin. When Andre Fabre had this colt as a 3yr.old in 2009, he looked on the verge of becoming one of the best middle distance turf horses in the world. Won the G1 Prix Niel. Beat Age of Aquarius and Mastery in the G1 Grand Prix De Paris, and ran a cracker in this race, just nosed out by Youmzain for 2nd. He's never finished better than 3rd one time for Godolphin. Saeed Bin Suroor has literally ruined this horse. Wish Fabre still had him. JMO.
Look you can all say what you want about whatever horses you wanna talk about but this horse proved he was in a very very Top Class League , a league in which only the best are promoted , i would have relished Sea The Stars Vs Zenyatta , if Zenyatta would come to England for a G1 or Maybe run in the Arc how Good would that be
sts has beat basically every other european horse that has won the other g1s that he didnt take part in!!and if u think the rip van winkle zenyatta beat is the same one sts beat, well lets just say if u think that u dont know much about horse racing!!twice over is a donkey forgodsake!!and if u have no argument regarding sts getting beat 1st time? lol what has that got to do with anything? oh and do yourself a favour, go watch his maiden , he shouldve won, horse cut him off!....
@ilikewavingatbuses wow you make it sound like zenyatta has beaten no top Players , ur an idiot seriously she had he period on rip and rip was the toughest openant Sea the stars had , Dont Make me laugh by saying fame and glory is good and dont add up all the good horses in the Arc because Youmzain came second therefore you could say he's better than the field ,sooo yanooo:)
@GoT2SpoNgE The fact both RVW and STS raced mainly in England and STS proved himself in the English classics were as Zarkava only raced in france, that was all i was getting at, as the large majority of English racing fans would be bias towards STS over Zarkava
@MANUTD4LIFE171 sorry i read your reply to Gberet wrong , But Zenyatta is a class act , from 1st to last in the Breeders cup is Wow , she missed the kick too , what a horse, she'd piss all over harbinger
@GoT2SpoNgE She never missed the kick, thats how she always races, shes always away slowly, she wouldnt beat Harbinger over 1m4 on turf, oh ye how many races has the fillie won by 11 lenghs in a field that included derby and irish derby winners not to mention a 3 time Arc 2nd, you think Zenyatta is so great, Zarkava would have wiped the floor with her, she thrashed even Goldikova when they met and i even think Goldikova would beat Zenyatta over a mile, Goldikova is a duel BC mile winner too
@MANUTD4LIFE171 What are you on about she completly missed the kick , she would beat harbinger over 1m4f , harbinger wont win the juddmonte he's good but not good enough the King George took alot out of him , Lmao Zarkava , Zenyatta would Stalk Zarkava and piss on her as she passes her , Zarkava was goood but no gr8 there owners like sea the stars wanted the money more than the Victories unlike Zenyatta's owners so we'll never know what she could have achieved , Zenyatta is wow , u know nothing
@GoT2SpoNgE They were both 3, even at 3 Zarkava was a miles better horse than Goldikova or Zenyatta have ever been, had she raced at 4 and 5 she would have been unbeatable, i must also remind you Goldikova won her first BC mile at 3 years old the same year she was stuffed TWICE by Zarkava, Zenyatta is good but the yanks think she is better than she is, i would have loved Zarkava to have raced Zenyatta and Rachel she would have thrashed them
@GoT2SpoNgE Harbinger would beat any of the Americans not to mention we have Dick Turpi, Canford Cliffs and Paco Boy who would beat any of the American milers
@MANUTD4LIFE171 Harbinger wouldn't beat Zenyatta , Lol Paco Boy , Goldikova Had her period on him not to long ago , stop naming horses that are beaten all the time Cheers
@GoT2SpoNgE Are you some sort of weirdo, Goldikova beat Paco Boy yes fair enough but Goldikova is a very very good fillie and she has been over to the states twice and thrashed the best milers you have, so losing to her by a short head is a very good performance, not to mention he was very unlucky and was cutting her down in the closing stages, on another day he could have won, Harbinger would definately beat Zenyatta and Timeform also agree with me rating him as the best horse in training
@MANUTD4LIFE171 Wow how old are you ???? , Best milers you have , Im not American you idiot , Goldikova was Ridden to the front way to soon against pace boy otherwise it was a Comfy win , LMFAO , TImeform , Ur defo an idiot , Go on to atr and click on tomorow's racing @ Haydock Or Leopardstown and they'll give you the Timeform 1-2-3 , and i guarentee They wont get more than 2 winners or placings its BS , Now i win By , u brit soare loser
@GoT2SpoNgE You are a complete tool, European racing is far far far more competative than any of the shite American's call horse racing. The best champions are made in Europe end of story. Over the years the British horses aswell as Irish and French have dominated world racing. Just look at Timeform that says it all, Not one American raced horse is rated 140 or more.... Jog on you moron
@MANUTD4LIFE171 you need to Face that she missed the kick , she was very Slow away and still pissed it , she was in the worst possible positon all race , she isnt ridden that way unlucky
beret i assume youve blocked me from replying to your drivel anyway...Sea the stars beat twice over by 15 lenghs in the eclipse yet twice over was only 2 behind zenyatta in the eclipse, proving how lacking in quality the classic was, that twice over was only 2 lenghs away, we all know rip never ran his race in the classic, id like to see zenyatta travel half way across the world to race and see how it affects her
acewins06, Zenyatta, that undefeated, two-time Breeders Cup champion in both Classic Divisions, that you say is crap, spanked your European contenders Rip Van Winkle and Twice Over. When you mention Zenyatta destroyed Rip. It's always "Well Rip is overrated." But if an American says Rip is overrated, then suddenly it becomes "well look how close he ran STS in the Coral Eclipse." And look how strong he was in the Sussex Stakes and the Q.E.II Cup." Can't have it both ways, friend.
@GBeret83 Sea the stars beat twice over by 15 lenghs in the eclipse, yet zenyatta only won by 2 in a weak classic, the fact twice over was placed shows how poor it was, we all know rip never ran his race, id like to see zenyatta travel half way across the globe to race see how it affects her the facts remain
exactly look at how close rip ran sts in the eclipse!!if u think the BCC was rips true running you need your head looking at!you then saying sts would have finished 1L ahead of rip thus getting beaten 16L by zenyatta and likewise by twice over! thats just plain stupid! obviously rip didnt run his race, twice over is a very moderate horse, how far did rip beat him in the eclipse? it was a combination of the surface, not running on lasix and hard races that got him beat!the .........
..europeans rarely run to form at the BC meeting, some do obviously but its rare! zenyatta is a good horse, and a great achievement to remain unbeaten but what has she actually beat? very moderate horses and constantly contests races where she is se nt off 1/10 etc,, uncompetitive!!name one outstanding horse she has beat?i mean the first time she faced the colts she beat twice over by 2L!twice over is not that good!when is she gonna run on dirt? its always ....
@ilikewavingatbuses HAHA What has she beaten she won the Bc Classic coming for last to 1st , She pissed all over The field , she's a class act who would Put little Golikova in her place FACT and could possibly win a champion hurdle at Cheltenham
again what has she beat? name some horses and what races they have won?collateral form, WHAT HAS SHE BEAT?here coming from last to first means nothing as thats he running style, put her in front from the gates and she'll get beat, so whats your point?she beats donkeys, and even twice over is a an average g1 winner LOL!!name some horses?and goldi would kill her over a mile, end of!zenyatta wouldnt place in a g1 race in europe LOL she beat an aw reject last time out too,st trin LOL
@ilikewavingatbuses Lmfao Zenyatta is unbeaten , Sea the stars was beaten on his first outting, Zenyatta has beaten a few European players such as Twice over , Rip Van Winkle , she's beaten every european horse she's came up against , Who has sea the stars beaten .... i think you'll find it was some simalar players .. Thank you
@GBeret83 .. under her optimum conditions!!in her last race she beat TAPTAM by 4L how can that be classed as a g1? have u seen taptams form?never won a race and finished 9th in 2 races!its a joke!!good horse but to even mention her in the same breath is an insult to sts, and i mean no disrespect, shes good but come on!race some good horses!!because if u think rip van winkle finishing 15L behind twice over is the real rip ..well i dont know what to say!!
Rachael Alexandra is All weather horse and they are the retards so not her. Zarkova was class 2008 but probably not same league as Sea the Stars and Zenyatta is crap.
@acewins06 Zarkava was every bit as good as STS and far better than zenyatta, watch her ARC win for verification soumilon never had to use the whip she won on the bridle, something STS or Zenyatta would never have done, im as english as they come but i will admit that Zarkava may well have been the greatest horse we have seen for years and was on a level par with STS
Man do I hate that Cavalryman got sent to Godolphin. When Andre Fabre had this colt as a 3yr.old in 2009, he looked on the verge of becoming one of the best middle distance turf horses in the world. Won the G1 Prix Niel. Beat Age of Aquarius and Mastery in the G1 Grand Prix De Paris, and ran a cracker in this race, just nosed out by Youmzain for 2nd. He's never finished better than 3rd one time for Godolphin. Saeed Bin Suroor has literally ruined this horse. Wish Fabre still had him. JMO.
GBeret83 9 months ago
@GBeret83, Meant to say the Prix Niel that Cavalryman won was a G2, not a G1.
GBeret83 9 months ago
how shit is that commentary
laggardz 9 months ago
Look you can all say what you want about whatever horses you wanna talk about but this horse proved he was in a very very Top Class League , a league in which only the best are promoted , i would have relished Sea The Stars Vs Zenyatta , if Zenyatta would come to England for a G1 or Maybe run in the Arc how Good would that be
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE
sts has beat basically every other european horse that has won the other g1s that he didnt take part in!!and if u think the rip van winkle zenyatta beat is the same one sts beat, well lets just say if u think that u dont know much about horse racing!!twice over is a donkey forgodsake!!and if u have no argument regarding sts getting beat 1st time? lol what has that got to do with anything? oh and do yourself a favour, go watch his maiden , he shouldve won, horse cut him off!....
ilikewavingatbuses 1 year ago
@ilikewavingatbuses wow you make it sound like zenyatta has beaten no top Players , ur an idiot seriously she had he period on rip and rip was the toughest openant Sea the stars had , Dont Make me laugh by saying fame and glory is good and dont add up all the good horses in the Arc because Youmzain came second therefore you could say he's better than the field ,sooo yanooo:)
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
the facts remain
WORLD TIMEFORM RATINGS
SEA THE STARS 140
RIP VAN WINKLE 134
ZENYATTA 132
That is all you Americans need to know!!
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 Ye your british , Sea the star or rip have nothing to do with you , just like american
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE The fact both RVW and STS raced mainly in England and STS proved himself in the English classics were as Zarkava only raced in france, that was all i was getting at, as the large majority of English racing fans would be bias towards STS over Zarkava
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 sorry i read your reply to Gberet wrong , But Zenyatta is a class act , from 1st to last in the Breeders cup is Wow , she missed the kick too , what a horse, she'd piss all over harbinger
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE She never missed the kick, thats how she always races, shes always away slowly, she wouldnt beat Harbinger over 1m4 on turf, oh ye how many races has the fillie won by 11 lenghs in a field that included derby and irish derby winners not to mention a 3 time Arc 2nd, you think Zenyatta is so great, Zarkava would have wiped the floor with her, she thrashed even Goldikova when they met and i even think Goldikova would beat Zenyatta over a mile, Goldikova is a duel BC mile winner too
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 What are you on about she completly missed the kick , she would beat harbinger over 1m4f , harbinger wont win the juddmonte he's good but not good enough the King George took alot out of him , Lmao Zarkava , Zenyatta would Stalk Zarkava and piss on her as she passes her , Zarkava was goood but no gr8 there owners like sea the stars wanted the money more than the Victories unlike Zenyatta's owners so we'll never know what she could have achieved , Zenyatta is wow , u know nothing
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 When Zarkava Beat Goldikova , Goldikova was not the Goldi She is now , It was her 1st G1 , come on
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE They were both 3, even at 3 Zarkava was a miles better horse than Goldikova or Zenyatta have ever been, had she raced at 4 and 5 she would have been unbeatable, i must also remind you Goldikova won her first BC mile at 3 years old the same year she was stuffed TWICE by Zarkava, Zenyatta is good but the yanks think she is better than she is, i would have loved Zarkava to have raced Zenyatta and Rachel she would have thrashed them
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 Lol Atleast the Yanks have Zenyatta , summer bird ,rachel Etc , Who have you brits got lol Twice over ,nice
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE Harbinger would beat any of the Americans not to mention we have Dick Turpi, Canford Cliffs and Paco Boy who would beat any of the American milers
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 Harbinger wouldn't beat Zenyatta , Lol Paco Boy , Goldikova Had her period on him not to long ago , stop naming horses that are beaten all the time Cheers
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE Are you some sort of weirdo, Goldikova beat Paco Boy yes fair enough but Goldikova is a very very good fillie and she has been over to the states twice and thrashed the best milers you have, so losing to her by a short head is a very good performance, not to mention he was very unlucky and was cutting her down in the closing stages, on another day he could have won, Harbinger would definately beat Zenyatta and Timeform also agree with me rating him as the best horse in training
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 Wow how old are you ???? , Best milers you have , Im not American you idiot , Goldikova was Ridden to the front way to soon against pace boy otherwise it was a Comfy win , LMFAO , TImeform , Ur defo an idiot , Go on to atr and click on tomorow's racing @ Haydock Or Leopardstown and they'll give you the Timeform 1-2-3 , and i guarentee They wont get more than 2 winners or placings its BS , Now i win By , u brit soare loser
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE Harbinger would have blown Zenyatta away you fool, She was a good horse but has been overhyped massively by the american press machine...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE You are a complete tool, European racing is far far far more competative than any of the shite American's call horse racing. The best champions are made in Europe end of story. Over the years the British horses aswell as Irish and French have dominated world racing. Just look at Timeform that says it all, Not one American raced horse is rated 140 or more.... Jog on you moron
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE By the way Twice over a multi group one winner, Zenyatta - The most overrated horse in history
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@MANUTD4LIFE171 you need to Face that she missed the kick , she was very Slow away and still pissed it , she was in the worst possible positon all race , she isnt ridden that way unlucky
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
beret i assume youve blocked me from replying to your drivel anyway...Sea the stars beat twice over by 15 lenghs in the eclipse yet twice over was only 2 behind zenyatta in the eclipse, proving how lacking in quality the classic was, that twice over was only 2 lenghs away, we all know rip never ran his race in the classic, id like to see zenyatta travel half way across the world to race and see how it affects her
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
acewins06, Zenyatta, that undefeated, two-time Breeders Cup champion in both Classic Divisions, that you say is crap, spanked your European contenders Rip Van Winkle and Twice Over. When you mention Zenyatta destroyed Rip. It's always "Well Rip is overrated." But if an American says Rip is overrated, then suddenly it becomes "well look how close he ran STS in the Coral Eclipse." And look how strong he was in the Sussex Stakes and the Q.E.II Cup." Can't have it both ways, friend.
GBeret83 1 year ago
@GBeret83 Sea the stars beat twice over by 15 lenghs in the eclipse, yet zenyatta only won by 2 in a weak classic, the fact twice over was placed shows how poor it was, we all know rip never ran his race, id like to see zenyatta travel half way across the globe to race see how it affects her the facts remain
WORLD TIME FORM
SEA THE STARS 140
RIP VAN WINKLE 134
ZENYATTA 132
that is all you need to know!!
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
@GBeret83
exactly look at how close rip ran sts in the eclipse!!if u think the BCC was rips true running you need your head looking at!you then saying sts would have finished 1L ahead of rip thus getting beaten 16L by zenyatta and likewise by twice over! thats just plain stupid! obviously rip didnt run his race, twice over is a very moderate horse, how far did rip beat him in the eclipse? it was a combination of the surface, not running on lasix and hard races that got him beat!the .........
ilikewavingatbuses 1 year ago
@GBeret83
..europeans rarely run to form at the BC meeting, some do obviously but its rare! zenyatta is a good horse, and a great achievement to remain unbeaten but what has she actually beat? very moderate horses and constantly contests races where she is se nt off 1/10 etc,, uncompetitive!!name one outstanding horse she has beat?i mean the first time she faced the colts she beat twice over by 2L!twice over is not that good!when is she gonna run on dirt? its always ....
ilikewavingatbuses 1 year ago
@ilikewavingatbuses HAHA What has she beaten she won the Bc Classic coming for last to 1st , She pissed all over The field , she's a class act who would Put little Golikova in her place FACT and could possibly win a champion hurdle at Cheltenham
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GoT2SpoNgE
again what has she beat? name some horses and what races they have won?collateral form, WHAT HAS SHE BEAT?here coming from last to first means nothing as thats he running style, put her in front from the gates and she'll get beat, so whats your point?she beats donkeys, and even twice over is a an average g1 winner LOL!!name some horses?and goldi would kill her over a mile, end of!zenyatta wouldnt place in a g1 race in europe LOL she beat an aw reject last time out too,st trin LOL
ilikewavingatbuses 1 year ago
@ilikewavingatbuses Lmfao Zenyatta is unbeaten , Sea the stars was beaten on his first outting, Zenyatta has beaten a few European players such as Twice over , Rip Van Winkle , she's beaten every european horse she's came up against , Who has sea the stars beaten .... i think you'll find it was some simalar players .. Thank you
GoT2SpoNgE 1 year ago
@GBeret83 .. under her optimum conditions!!in her last race she beat TAPTAM by 4L how can that be classed as a g1? have u seen taptams form?never won a race and finished 9th in 2 races!its a joke!!good horse but to even mention her in the same breath is an insult to sts, and i mean no disrespect, shes good but come on!race some good horses!!because if u think rip van winkle finishing 15L behind twice over is the real rip ..well i dont know what to say!!
ilikewavingatbuses 1 year ago
did he say the breeders cup classic winner is crap?
TBabytko 2 years ago
Rachael Alexandra is All weather horse and they are the retards so not her. Zarkova was class 2008 but probably not same league as Sea the Stars and Zenyatta is crap.
acewins06 2 years ago
@acewins06 Zarkava was every bit as good as STS and far better than zenyatta, watch her ARC win for verification soumilon never had to use the whip she won on the bridle, something STS or Zenyatta would never have done, im as english as they come but i will admit that Zarkava may well have been the greatest horse we have seen for years and was on a level par with STS
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
hi everyone
please, tell me who is better horse between ?
Zarkava,Zenyatta,Rache Alexandra and Sea the Stars ?
Thks
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06riviera 2 years ago
@06riviera Zarkava
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
bollox!1 the french call sounds much better n i dun speak fench
gayer999 2 years ago
thanks for having this race in english not french.
ps watch the horseracingkid
horseracingkid 2 years ago