Where's Alan Greenspan, Reagan's lovechild, when you need him? He was responsible for the Glass-Seagal act being repealed. Those who think the capitalist system will take care of itself w/o a responsible government intervening
must also believe that it was Jesus himself that preached this 'gospel'. From 1980 forward these policies have led to one crisis after another, nothing being changed, and there are those that think different results will be forthcoming.
@moreslaw people did say 'hey look what happens', but they were ignored b/c people were getting huge fees making CDOs. For details, read EConned (Yves Smith), The Big Short (Michael Lewis), Fool's Gold (Gillian Tett), Structured Finance (Janet Tavakoli), Confidence Game (Christine Richard) etc etc. The models used flawed math and many people knew it, but almost nobody listened. Then you get people who knew it, made bad CDOs anyways, then bet against them and made huge money (Goldman). Drink!
@DoBrigh Hey DoBrigh, amazing explanation!!! Thanks!!! And you're absolutely correct, the 'de-regulation' that started in the 80's is behind all of this mess
Absolutely not, though. The deregulation is not the source of the problem.. the fact remains that these loans were created with money that was supplied by the Federal Reserve at ridiculously low, unrealistic interest rates. Absent the money supplied by the FED, than banks wouldn't have had the funds necessary to write all these mortgages in the first place, and the whole crisis would have been averted by itself. This problem was created by irresponsible monetary policy.
@cheesebone82 Maybe the magnitude of it was made more severe because of that, but the crisis would have still occurred none the less. The regulation must be in place. That's why it was there in the first place.
@moreslaw CDOs got very complicated, Hirsch makes it seem simple because he is a genius at explaining things. Many CDOs had their own computer model made, just for that CDO. The 'ratings agencies' were supposed to model each CDO (before rating it), but each of the three agencies models might give a different rating to the same CDO! The banks also figured out how to tweak their CDOs to 'game' the ratings models so theyd get rated higher. It was all unregulated, thanks to 'free market' ideology
The part I didn't understand was when he did the second bottle...how can he resell as securities the BB tiered securities a second time? And where does this second "asset manager" come in? This explanation started at 2:59.
With the collapse of the DEBT based monetary system, sooner or later there will be huge shrinkage of the global economy and entire industries will disappear, as there will not be enough EFFECTIVE consumer demand (the one that has money and not just bare demand). Slowly but surely we will slide back to WELL MANUFACTURED items that last, BUT VERY EXPENSIVE. What will all of this Global transformation do to YOUR life style, one can only imagine. One thing for sure, we are on the DOWN slope now.
There is a MUCH broader problem that is causing this crisis. It is not just CDO mortgages etc. In the nutshell the problem is that:
All of these financial instruments were supposed to help financing production of goods and services. Now days (past 35 years or so) the only reason why companies still produce things is so they could issue DEBT. The banksters even converted our money in to someone else's DEBT. It is TOTAL speculation and INDEBTEDNESS that cause this SYSTEMIC CRISIS.
if you want a loan, just ask me, i would be happy to write a number on a piece of paper and ill just give it to you, you wont have to pay it back or pay interest and i wont be out of pocket, it will cost me nothing to write on worthless paper
At first sight the image with the glasses is impressive. But you get the impression that to fill the AAA-tranches, you need just little champagne (or cashflow). I think you know, that this is wrong. The biggest tranches of CDOs or CDO-squared were the AAA-tranches - usually at least 90%. And that was the problem: the subordinated tranches were to thin to bear the losses to justify the highest rating. This doesn't match with your image. Anyways for non-experts a catchy explanation.
I like this guy a lot, and would like to find more of him/his work. What is "Marketplace"? Is it a magazine... a blog/website? Does this guy do videos elsewhere?
It all began when the Fed prevented the harsh recession that should have occurred after the internet bubble. Lowering interest rate to a 46 years low created an incentive for all sorts of people to borrow and invest in then lucrative activities. People were drunk on the easy money and thought they were creating wealth when in fact they were just building a pyramid of sand. Those who foresaw this bubble bet against it and made billions ( John Paulson comes to mind). Remember the Say's Law.
thats nice, wonder how long it took to think up this wonderful system.. im sure they are alot smarter than i. but i dont think it looks right to me oh well good luck peoples
That was awesome. I heard so much of about this stuff and now I finally understand it. So is this related to derivatives? How about leveraging. I heard of we need to unwind derivatives and deleverage? I also heard that once the unwinding of derivatives and the deleveraging is done, the dollar will collapse, is that true?
Europe will soon be the only continent in the world with it's own `capital ´ !
Der Spiegel magazine reports that the un-elected EU Commission has `Big ambitions for Europes capital ´. These include 10,000 new offices for their 30,000 beurocrats and an office space as big as 40 football pitches for the un-elected Commissions employees.
Who'se to pay the hundreds of millions of Euros..` perhaps billions ´needed for this project ?
by the time everything exploded, they were making CDOs of CDO's DCOs! so my guess is that what the banks are left with in their balance sheets is junk of junk' junk! so please, don't buy cap of crap's crap with my tax money!!
He doesn't say what the glasses are. I don't understand what they represent. It looks like they are the interest generated from a risk related mortgage, but then how can the second CDO manager buy interest?
Also what is a CDO, is it a crude form of a business?
CDO are "collateralized debt obligation", it is basically packaged mortgages that people can invest in, in a sense kind of like a stock but profit is generated from interest in the mortgages.
The glasses are basically investors-the top glass represent the investor who invested with a relatively low risk, higher risk investment as you move down.
Another asset class manger comes along and pull money from investor to invest in the highest risk available for these CDO...everyone was buying these.
in other words a cdo is a group of potentially worthless group of/ homes,credit cards,or any other over priced ,high intrest crap that they paid too much 4 .now there crying 4 a bailout
CDO's in themselves aren't that dangerous and can be "good" investments (e.g. a bond backed by a mortgage). But if you split a CDO into traunches and let's say start rating them AAA, AA, etc. while they all came from a BBB bond then the stuff gets messy.
That's what is so confounding. These CDO derivatives (i.e. CDO's of CDO's) are divided into sections reflecting risk. So even though the BBB bonds have inherent risk, once divided they were allowed to be chopped up into different traunches (so that the least risky of the BBB bonds get rated AAA, AA and so on - these would be the last traunches in the original BBB bonds to default). You're right that this makes no sense and ratings agencies are to blame for allowing this practice.
@lettysef one way is that you get the new CDO 'insured' against default. only they don't call it 'insurance' they call it 'buying protection' with a 'credit default swap' from a 'protection seller' (such as AIG). IIRC Mr Hirsch has another video on Credit Default Swaps (CDS).
Wallstreet CDO managers & execs knew all along this was a house of cards. Ratings agencies failed to get the right talent in the door & pay a Acompetative salary to keep an analyst on staff who understood these structures. Pensions & asset managers failed to do their diligence & evaluate the underlying structure of these CDOs by simply relying on what the understaffed, uninformed ratings agencies said.
Cute how these pensions funds manage 100+bn dollars each and they can't hire people smart enough to figure this out... ha ha hah ah ah ah ah a Sucks to be counting on a calpers pension!
that was the reason for putting different assets into the same bottle in the first place. Bottling bad debt with robust debt and then relabeling the bottle 'contains AAA' was designed to fool people into thinking it was safe money.
Ultimately, the people who had been mis-sold mortgages that they could never afford to pay for ended up with a 2-year reduced rate period so that this bubble had a 2 year life-span.
Plenty of time for the villains to get their money and run.
Can it really be so that the the secondary bottles were really rated at the level of the first. Clearly, it is derived so to be riskier than the first and ought to offer a commensurately higher reward incentive. Else, some folk should be going to jail.
Looks like a very clever Ponzi scheme indeed, but who engineered it? The banks are the only possible explanation but they wouldn't have gone into knowing the consecuences, and we all know how they're doing...
brilliant! i will share this with my friends, but please get more than 3800 people to watch these videos. 95% of the american people have no clue what is going on in the financial system, and the media does an abysmal job of explaining it to them. the only thing that the public takes away are hot words like "recession," "depression," and "crisis." The bottom line is a fearful reluctance for consumers to spend, and a great discern for bailouts. please keep up the good work.
Nice video. Can someone explain why the "second manager" would create these securities? It seems that when the bubble bursts they lose 'their' money. Are they paid according to the money they bring to the bank?
A lot of banks and stuff had bonus systems rewarding innovations. Therefore by creating these secondary CDOs they would benefit from bonuses (hence all the talk abt bonus schemes on the news)
Excellent material. Well explained. Please make one and name it "Solution Explorer". Does the bail out package solve the problem? What should be the best problem solver even if it is painful for all?
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uhhhh.... no sound in here, all the other YouTube videos have sound but this one... weird... could someone tell me what he says, I cant read his lips, haha.
Great intro, thanks a lot. Now just somebody needs to explain to me why people who are "filling the right pyramid" with the bottom-most stuff of the "left pyramid" are not all going to jail.
Excellent tutorial on how this whole mess has come into being. In essence, our financial institutions are reeling from the failing of what in my mind amounts to a pyramid scheme gone bad.
BBBB? Must be a new super rating! XD
Ryodisis 1 month ago
thanks !
houdapurple 2 months ago
who here is watching for FIN310?
jiyefuuu 2 months ago 2
this guy is an alcoholic
mariusww1 3 months ago
Where's Alan Greenspan, Reagan's lovechild, when you need him? He was responsible for the Glass-Seagal act being repealed. Those who think the capitalist system will take care of itself w/o a responsible government intervening
must also believe that it was Jesus himself that preached this 'gospel'. From 1980 forward these policies have led to one crisis after another, nothing being changed, and there are those that think different results will be forthcoming.
99mrfins 5 months ago
so... what does every1 think about paul fiani?
ppingpoong 7 months ago
Mmmm bubbly
qwertyuiop2669 10 months ago
@moreslaw people did say 'hey look what happens', but they were ignored b/c people were getting huge fees making CDOs. For details, read EConned (Yves Smith), The Big Short (Michael Lewis), Fool's Gold (Gillian Tett), Structured Finance (Janet Tavakoli), Confidence Game (Christine Richard) etc etc. The models used flawed math and many people knew it, but almost nobody listened. Then you get people who knew it, made bad CDOs anyways, then bet against them and made huge money (Goldman). Drink!
DoBrigh 1 year ago
@DoBrigh Hey DoBrigh, amazing explanation!!! Thanks!!! And you're absolutely correct, the 'de-regulation' that started in the 80's is behind all of this mess
jeanpaulfelix 7 months ago
@jeanpaulfelix
Absolutely not, though. The deregulation is not the source of the problem.. the fact remains that these loans were created with money that was supplied by the Federal Reserve at ridiculously low, unrealistic interest rates. Absent the money supplied by the FED, than banks wouldn't have had the funds necessary to write all these mortgages in the first place, and the whole crisis would have been averted by itself. This problem was created by irresponsible monetary policy.
cheesebone82 7 months ago
@cheesebone82 Maybe the magnitude of it was made more severe because of that, but the crisis would have still occurred none the less. The regulation must be in place. That's why it was there in the first place.
thadea 3 days ago
@moreslaw CDOs got very complicated, Hirsch makes it seem simple because he is a genius at explaining things. Many CDOs had their own computer model made, just for that CDO. The 'ratings agencies' were supposed to model each CDO (before rating it), but each of the three agencies models might give a different rating to the same CDO! The banks also figured out how to tweak their CDOs to 'game' the ratings models so theyd get rated higher. It was all unregulated, thanks to 'free market' ideology
DoBrigh 1 year ago
An absolute criminal scam, and nobody got arrested.
freedomfighterone 1 year ago
somehow the bottom of the left pyramid reminds me of Angelo Mozilo... hmmm I wonder why?
Sexisttroll 1 year ago
Life is not so complicated - it is made complicated by people trying to fool other people.
m1trekker 1 year ago
Thank you
:-o This video explain it in a simple & easy way
6642633 1 year ago
swift advances plc and preferred mortgages are up to their eyes in this scam based on lehmans formate
joesdvds 1 year ago
swift advances plc is a typical company involved in this scam
joesdvds 1 year ago
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can you help me understand this better?
arrependida1 1 year ago
The part I didn't understand was when he did the second bottle...how can he resell as securities the BB tiered securities a second time? And where does this second "asset manager" come in? This explanation started at 2:59.
tkondaks 1 year ago
Ah ha ha ha you fucking deceitful lying JEW BITCH !!! You're not Irish you KHAZARIAN FUCK !!!
WhereEaglesDareWWII 1 year ago
How is it that a ratings agency would rate a secondary CDO based on BB debt as AAA?
yuppyguitar1 1 year ago
Isn't that the same thing as a pyramid scheme that was against the law years ago?
Quiltingsando 1 year ago
Excellent!
Farquar12345 1 year ago
love the video, great job!
Oooooud 2 years ago 2
With the collapse of the DEBT based monetary system, sooner or later there will be huge shrinkage of the global economy and entire industries will disappear, as there will not be enough EFFECTIVE consumer demand (the one that has money and not just bare demand). Slowly but surely we will slide back to WELL MANUFACTURED items that last, BUT VERY EXPENSIVE. What will all of this Global transformation do to YOUR life style, one can only imagine. One thing for sure, we are on the DOWN slope now.
ok131583 2 years ago
There is a MUCH broader problem that is causing this crisis. It is not just CDO mortgages etc. In the nutshell the problem is that:
All of these financial instruments were supposed to help financing production of goods and services. Now days (past 35 years or so) the only reason why companies still produce things is so they could issue DEBT. The banksters even converted our money in to someone else's DEBT. It is TOTAL speculation and INDEBTEDNESS that cause this SYSTEMIC CRISIS.
ok131583 2 years ago
fuck interest fuck worthess fiat paper.
if you want a loan, just ask me, i would be happy to write a number on a piece of paper and ill just give it to you, you wont have to pay it back or pay interest and i wont be out of pocket, it will cost me nothing to write on worthless paper
robertwc82 2 years ago
At first sight the image with the glasses is impressive. But you get the impression that to fill the AAA-tranches, you need just little champagne (or cashflow). I think you know, that this is wrong. The biggest tranches of CDOs or CDO-squared were the AAA-tranches - usually at least 90%. And that was the problem: the subordinated tranches were to thin to bear the losses to justify the highest rating. This doesn't match with your image. Anyways for non-experts a catchy explanation.
pussyfever 2 years ago
I like this guy a lot, and would like to find more of him/his work. What is "Marketplace"? Is it a magazine... a blog/website? Does this guy do videos elsewhere?
D4Shawn 2 years ago
Outstanding presentation. Really enlightening and simple. Congratulations!
Piolivers 2 years ago
It all began when the Fed prevented the harsh recession that should have occurred after the internet bubble. Lowering interest rate to a 46 years low created an incentive for all sorts of people to borrow and invest in then lucrative activities. People were drunk on the easy money and thought they were creating wealth when in fact they were just building a pyramid of sand. Those who foresaw this bubble bet against it and made billions ( John Paulson comes to mind). Remember the Say's Law.
AFRIKTODAY 2 years ago
it all began when the Fed was created. recessions arnt some kind of nessasary evil.
robertwc82 2 years ago
thats nice, wonder how long it took to think up this wonderful system.. im sure they are alot smarter than i. but i dont think it looks right to me oh well good luck peoples
silverjunky999 2 years ago
That was awesome. I heard so much of about this stuff and now I finally understand it. So is this related to derivatives? How about leveraging. I heard of we need to unwind derivatives and deleverage? I also heard that once the unwinding of derivatives and the deleveraging is done, the dollar will collapse, is that true?
jgposner 2 years ago
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Europe will soon be the only continent in the world with it's own `capital ´ !
Der Spiegel magazine reports that the un-elected EU Commission has `Big ambitions for Europes capital ´. These include 10,000 new offices for their 30,000 beurocrats and an office space as big as 40 football pitches for the un-elected Commissions employees.
Who'se to pay the hundreds of millions of Euros..` perhaps billions ´needed for this project ?
Us Europeans denied a voice !
Crisis ?
What crisis ?
Spenner56 2 years ago
by the time everything exploded, they were making CDOs of CDO's DCOs! so my guess is that what the banks are left with in their balance sheets is junk of junk' junk! so please, don't buy cap of crap's crap with my tax money!!
muscarine2000 2 years ago 2
He doesn't say what the glasses are. I don't understand what they represent. It looks like they are the interest generated from a risk related mortgage, but then how can the second CDO manager buy interest?
Also what is a CDO, is it a crude form of a business?
Donk696 2 years ago
CDO are "collateralized debt obligation", it is basically packaged mortgages that people can invest in, in a sense kind of like a stock but profit is generated from interest in the mortgages.
The glasses are basically investors-the top glass represent the investor who invested with a relatively low risk, higher risk investment as you move down.
Another asset class manger comes along and pull money from investor to invest in the highest risk available for these CDO...everyone was buying these.
Invaderalex8 2 years ago
in other words a cdo is a group of potentially worthless group of/ homes,credit cards,or any other over priced ,high intrest crap that they paid too much 4 .now there crying 4 a bailout
1ChocletDrop 2 years ago
CDO's in themselves aren't that dangerous and can be "good" investments (e.g. a bond backed by a mortgage). But if you split a CDO into traunches and let's say start rating them AAA, AA, etc. while they all came from a BBB bond then the stuff gets messy.
Lot3ch 2 years ago
How is it possible to split BBB bond into groups containing AAA and AA ratings if they're inherently high-risk?
lettysef 2 years ago
That's what is so confounding. These CDO derivatives (i.e. CDO's of CDO's) are divided into sections reflecting risk. So even though the BBB bonds have inherent risk, once divided they were allowed to be chopped up into different traunches (so that the least risky of the BBB bonds get rated AAA, AA and so on - these would be the last traunches in the original BBB bonds to default). You're right that this makes no sense and ratings agencies are to blame for allowing this practice.
Lot3ch 2 years ago
@lettysef one way is that you get the new CDO 'insured' against default. only they don't call it 'insurance' they call it 'buying protection' with a 'credit default swap' from a 'protection seller' (such as AIG). IIRC Mr Hirsch has another video on Credit Default Swaps (CDS).
DoBrigh 1 year ago
Hopefully some of these idiots that caused this will soon be going to jail for a long time, they need to be locked up.
phil777h 2 years ago
Thank you for explaining that!
Gerrrry 3 years ago
Yeah, the metaphor wasn't too bad.
ErichoTTA 2 years ago
you are genius, you really made me write my first comment ever
3osky 3 years ago 2
terrific video
colombialibit 3 years ago 2
I like how you teach (simple and to the point)
khonguna 3 years ago 2
So instead of holding the responsible party liable we bail them out? Good plan US Govt.
goskone 3 years ago 6
Wallstreet CDO managers & execs knew all along this was a house of cards. Ratings agencies failed to get the right talent in the door & pay a Acompetative salary to keep an analyst on staff who understood these structures. Pensions & asset managers failed to do their diligence & evaluate the underlying structure of these CDOs by simply relying on what the understaffed, uninformed ratings agencies said.
bartjoebob 3 years ago
Cute how these pensions funds manage 100+bn dollars each and they can't hire people smart enough to figure this out... ha ha hah ah ah ah ah a Sucks to be counting on a calpers pension!
plizak 3 years ago
The slick trick (crime ?) was the recalibration from BBB or even junk equity status to AAA status on being "re-bottled" in the second magnum.
Somebody should be in jail for that piece of fraud.
PaulNancyVan 3 years ago 5
that was the reason for putting different assets into the same bottle in the first place. Bottling bad debt with robust debt and then relabeling the bottle 'contains AAA' was designed to fool people into thinking it was safe money.
Ultimately, the people who had been mis-sold mortgages that they could never afford to pay for ended up with a 2-year reduced rate period so that this bubble had a 2 year life-span.
Plenty of time for the villains to get their money and run.
AndyHenryUK 3 years ago
Can it really be so that the the secondary bottles were really rated at the level of the first. Clearly, it is derived so to be riskier than the first and ought to offer a commensurately higher reward incentive. Else, some folk should be going to jail.
Eyesayah 3 years ago
Classic ending.
rfvo 3 years ago
So what genius rated anything in the second pyramid AAA?
crapo87 3 years ago
It's the same geniuses who rate all other debt-related securities, and have been for many decades.
adamas1971 3 years ago
that last comment was designed to answer crapo87's question.
adamas1971 3 years ago
Looks like a very clever Ponzi scheme indeed, but who engineered it? The banks are the only possible explanation but they wouldn't have gone into knowing the consecuences, and we all know how they're doing...
floreshasan 3 years ago
intricate webs of collateralized debt obligations, aka "glass pyramid type" financial instruments...
when the scheme collapses...last resort, raid the winery's cellar!
teleutube 3 years ago
Looks like a clever Ponzi scheme. Whoever created it probably left the market long before the bottom fell out.
jsilver41 3 years ago 4
brilliant! i will share this with my friends, but please get more than 3800 people to watch these videos. 95% of the american people have no clue what is going on in the financial system, and the media does an abysmal job of explaining it to them. the only thing that the public takes away are hot words like "recession," "depression," and "crisis." The bottom line is a fearful reluctance for consumers to spend, and a great discern for bailouts. please keep up the good work.
yuk2k 3 years ago 2
very clear explanation. tnx !
ciaoidea 3 years ago
Thanks Paddy
TENNISCHAMP98 3 years ago
Hey, gr8 work.
yupyupnopenope 3 years ago
Very well explained, prof!
oenrilee 3 years ago
could the gcredit be the solution for crisis ? check the project on YouTube :) TNX 4 video explanation
ciaoidea 3 years ago
Nice video. Can someone explain why the "second manager" would create these securities? It seems that when the bubble bursts they lose 'their' money. Are they paid according to the money they bring to the bank?
nsn100001 3 years ago
A lot of banks and stuff had bonus systems rewarding innovations. Therefore by creating these secondary CDOs they would benefit from bonuses (hence all the talk abt bonus schemes on the news)
kayajosette 3 years ago
Cheers!! nice ending.
rfvo 3 years ago
Excellent material. Well explained. Please make one and name it "Solution Explorer". Does the bail out package solve the problem? What should be the best problem solver even if it is painful for all?
jove04 3 years ago
and why arent these investment managers losing their jobs and their shirts? why are they receiving bonuses that come from tax money???
jannonymous 3 years ago
Awesome. It's great to find a clear-cut explanation.
upendedurn 3 years ago
Thanks for making this. Great stuff!
Guvnor33 3 years ago
Thankyou so much for this explanation.
Now I understand!
:)
realism18 3 years ago
Why people stopped paying for the mortgage (from "first bottle" ) ?
mokruxa 3 years ago
I bet he's a pro at pictionary.
t3hOutlaw 3 years ago 3
Cheers _b
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soularimus 3 years ago
Thanks again marketplace!! I love your show and my day is not complete without it. You really give the amateurs a decent grasp of market conditions.
UltrasonicMailman 3 years ago 2
And then all the investors who invested in those products drank all that champagne in sorrow.....
chibanach 3 years ago
Thanks for that, it's good.
pwettywipples 3 years ago
Can you say...derivatives? The party's over, the clock struck 12 and it's all punpkins and mice...ouch!!!!!
9777fire 3 years ago
Extremely good explanation. Cristal clear
pedrinhobarbosa 3 years ago
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uhhhh.... no sound in here, all the other YouTube videos have sound but this one... weird... could someone tell me what he says, I cant read his lips, haha.
MasterRave 3 years ago
Fabulous explanation, thanks.
mxcl 3 years ago
Great intro, thanks a lot. Now just somebody needs to explain to me why people who are "filling the right pyramid" with the bottom-most stuff of the "left pyramid" are not all going to jail.
ericbodden 3 years ago 11
I really like Marketplace, easy review of the day's market in lay mans terms. Keep it up, I'll be listening
ricenchopstx 3 years ago 3
Excellent tutorial on how this whole mess has come into being. In essence, our financial institutions are reeling from the failing of what in my mind amounts to a pyramid scheme gone bad.
I'll be sharing this video with everyone I know.
Flashmusikal 3 years ago 7