Hey Jason, good lesson and points - thanks! I teach this same sort of technique for jazz ride. I call the 3 movements whip/drop/grab. Whip on 2+4, drop on the "ah's" and grab on 1 and 3.
Hi Jason, a very good explanation of your approach. I have to disagree with an approach that focuses on the 2 and 4 so much especially at slower tempos, as it tends to diminish the importance of the quarter note pulse causing some sort of an imbalance in the way the notes are placed on the beat (2 and 4 in a way, 1 and 3 in another way). such an imbalance fades away at fast tempos but can kill the swinging feel at tempos between 100 and 200 bpm. This of course is just my opinion. Tks
Hi Jason, a very good explanation of your approach. I have to disagree with an approach that focuses on the 2 and 4 so much especially at slower tempos, as it tends to diminish the importance of the quarter note pulse causing some sort of an imbalance in the way the notes are placed on the beat (2 and 4 in a way, 1 and 3 in another way). such an imbalance fades away at fast tempos but can kill the swinging feel at tempos between 100 and 200 bpm. This of course is just my opinion. Tks
@fardrum If you go back and listen he states that he is not diminishing the importance of the quarter note pulse it's just the 2 & 4 are the focal points of movement
@Crusada54 Well that's exactly what I don't agree with, sorry if I have not made myself clear. Making 2 and 4 the focal points of movement creates a dangerous asymmetry, and puts the even positioning of quarter notes in the flow of time at risk. This of course is only my opinion.
I think making 2 and 4 the focal point on the technique is exactly right because the 2 and 4 sets up a momentum of energy for the "ah's" and 1 and 3. Once you are comfortable and relaxed with the technique (movement) you should hopefully be able to make the focal point of the groove whatever you want.... depending on what you are playing along with. This is just my opinion and I appreciate your view - it made me think about my own a little more.
Hey Jason, good lesson and points - thanks! I teach this same sort of technique for jazz ride. I call the 3 movements whip/drop/grab. Whip on 2+4, drop on the "ah's" and grab on 1 and 3.
Davesgrooves 2 months ago
Is that ride sopposed to sound really flat or something? :/
roryando 2 months ago
@roryando If by "flat" you mean dry. Then Yes. It's the Bill Stewart designed ride.
jasonfurmandrummer 2 months ago
@jasonfurmandrummer I didnt mean it in a bad way btw haha ive seen other people with cymbals like this, i dont really like that but thats just me
roryando 2 months ago
nice explanation man............
ateequrrehman87 3 months ago
@ateequrrehman87 Thank you. I hope it helped you.
jasonfurmandrummer 3 months ago
great!!! thanks
michyjl 3 months ago
@michyjl Thank you for checking it out.
jasonfurmandrummer 3 months ago
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Hi Jason, a very good explanation of your approach. I have to disagree with an approach that focuses on the 2 and 4 so much especially at slower tempos, as it tends to diminish the importance of the quarter note pulse causing some sort of an imbalance in the way the notes are placed on the beat (2 and 4 in a way, 1 and 3 in another way). such an imbalance fades away at fast tempos but can kill the swinging feel at tempos between 100 and 200 bpm. This of course is just my opinion. Tks
fardrum 5 months ago
Hi Jason, a very good explanation of your approach. I have to disagree with an approach that focuses on the 2 and 4 so much especially at slower tempos, as it tends to diminish the importance of the quarter note pulse causing some sort of an imbalance in the way the notes are placed on the beat (2 and 4 in a way, 1 and 3 in another way). such an imbalance fades away at fast tempos but can kill the swinging feel at tempos between 100 and 200 bpm. This of course is just my opinion. Tks
fardrum 5 months ago
@fardrum If you go back and listen he states that he is not diminishing the importance of the quarter note pulse it's just the 2 & 4 are the focal points of movement
Crusada54 3 months ago
@Crusada54 That is exactly right. Thanks.
jasonfurmandrummer 3 months ago
@Crusada54 Well that's exactly what I don't agree with, sorry if I have not made myself clear. Making 2 and 4 the focal points of movement creates a dangerous asymmetry, and puts the even positioning of quarter notes in the flow of time at risk. This of course is only my opinion.
fardrum 3 months ago
@fardrum
I think making 2 and 4 the focal point on the technique is exactly right because the 2 and 4 sets up a momentum of energy for the "ah's" and 1 and 3. Once you are comfortable and relaxed with the technique (movement) you should hopefully be able to make the focal point of the groove whatever you want.... depending on what you are playing along with. This is just my opinion and I appreciate your view - it made me think about my own a little more.
Davesgrooves 2 months ago
Thank you from japan
(^O^)
naish1111 1 year ago
Jason,
Very will explained.
patdrummer 2 years ago