Just curious, can you do this with a 450? Or could you do this first with the 450 then to the 600? Or is it easier with the bigger bird, I suspect it is easier the bigger the bird since they are way more stable. Granted none of this is easy but easier! Looks great you are doing awesome!
@youtwoba I flew circuits and loops with the 450, then with the 500 - backwards circuits, inverted forward flight & circuits and sideways flying (loops and circuits). So, I guess I gained a huge amount of stuff with the 500. Since having the 600 I have learned to do nice autos and started getting more daring with stall rolls and outside loops and stuff. Note: I downgraded my 600 to belt drive tail so as not to strip gears in hard piro stops.
@hbk2flyer The bigger heli gives a more locked in feel to the speed of my nervous system. In the inverted part I was making minute adjustments that I could see live that are almost imperceptible in the video. Because the 600 is huge you can see little tiny correction effects, and because the main disk is a huge gyro, the disk reacts much more slowly to wind micro gusts that add chaos to the smaller 450. Bigger heli when you get better help you learn, but best to get when you rarely crash.
@arsitama I do have a hover tip. Set up a television where you can see it and your flight sim, start a nice movie, then start your sim and set the throttle to hover and only use your cyclic stick to keep the hover while watching the movie. It will force you to use your subconscious to work at hovering while the conscious part of your brain is watching the movie. That is how I got better at inverted hovering. Also works for upright hovering for those having difficulties there!
@hbk2flyer When you get to where you can fly inverted side to side a little, then start moving it over to side in (to your side), then nose in (behind you in the sim) all without using any rudder. Then in real life (IRL) start up high and know your bailout move. Rolls are better than diving out of it to get upright again, and negative collective to get up higher is the first thing to do when getting uncomfortable. Don't wait until you are in trouble to bail out. Any discomfort, bail.
@hbk2flyer , when inverted, I found that nose in is easier. If I push the elevator, tail will go down and when I pull the elevator, tail will go up, just like tail in in normal hover. But I always looking at the nose, so I make a wrong elevator move.
@arsitama Some say nose in inverted is easier, Doesn't really matter, you need to learn all orientations. That's why sim practice while watching a movie is great. You get 2 hours of what would otherwise be boring sim practice while you train subconscious to react with corrections. I think the hardest part of flying is applying the right corrections.
Nice flying Richard!
A2544321 1 year ago
@A2544321 Thanks. The 600 is quite a joy to fly. I like the engine noise and smoke also.
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
Where is this at?
Paintballboy54 1 year ago
@Paintballboy54 This is at a flying field on Camano Island. "Model Aircraft Society of Camano Island" I think.
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
Just curious, can you do this with a 450? Or could you do this first with the 450 then to the 600? Or is it easier with the bigger bird, I suspect it is easier the bigger the bird since they are way more stable. Granted none of this is easy but easier! Looks great you are doing awesome!
youtwoba 1 year ago
@youtwoba I flew circuits and loops with the 450, then with the 500 - backwards circuits, inverted forward flight & circuits and sideways flying (loops and circuits). So, I guess I gained a huge amount of stuff with the 500. Since having the 600 I have learned to do nice autos and started getting more daring with stall rolls and outside loops and stuff. Note: I downgraded my 600 to belt drive tail so as not to strip gears in hard piro stops.
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
@hbk2flyer The bigger heli gives a more locked in feel to the speed of my nervous system. In the inverted part I was making minute adjustments that I could see live that are almost imperceptible in the video. Because the 600 is huge you can see little tiny correction effects, and because the main disk is a huge gyro, the disk reacts much more slowly to wind micro gusts that add chaos to the smaller 450. Bigger heli when you get better help you learn, but best to get when you rarely crash.
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
Nice flying.
I like your how to fly RC heli tutorial. Do you have any tips on how to hover/fly inverted?
arsitama 1 year ago
@arsitama I do have a hover tip. Set up a television where you can see it and your flight sim, start a nice movie, then start your sim and set the throttle to hover and only use your cyclic stick to keep the hover while watching the movie. It will force you to use your subconscious to work at hovering while the conscious part of your brain is watching the movie. That is how I got better at inverted hovering. Also works for upright hovering for those having difficulties there!
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
@hbk2flyer When you get to where you can fly inverted side to side a little, then start moving it over to side in (to your side), then nose in (behind you in the sim) all without using any rudder. Then in real life (IRL) start up high and know your bailout move. Rolls are better than diving out of it to get upright again, and negative collective to get up higher is the first thing to do when getting uncomfortable. Don't wait until you are in trouble to bail out. Any discomfort, bail.
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
@hbk2flyer , when inverted, I found that nose in is easier. If I push the elevator, tail will go down and when I pull the elevator, tail will go up, just like tail in in normal hover. But I always looking at the nose, so I make a wrong elevator move.
arsitama 1 year ago
@arsitama Some say nose in inverted is easier, Doesn't really matter, you need to learn all orientations. That's why sim practice while watching a movie is great. You get 2 hours of what would otherwise be boring sim practice while you train subconscious to react with corrections. I think the hardest part of flying is applying the right corrections.
hbk2flyer 1 year ago
@hbk2flyer , very interesting technique.
arsitama 1 year ago