Superb, even if she takes some liberties with the tempo and her German diction is not very clear. My two favorite versions remain Kiri te Kanawa and the original recording with Flagstad, scratchy old LP sound and all. Schwarzkopf? Technically sound but frigid, left me unmoved. Janowitz and Norman are OK, but I think Fleming is a mess, way too affected.
I was in complete agreement as I read your comment about Flagstad, but your note about Schwarzkopf left me gasping....how oh how can you not hear the exquisite tenderness in Elizabeth's voice? So gentle, so...so everything anyone could want.
Listen again...
Flagstad, Popp, Janowitz, the terrible video with Lois Marshall and Glenn Gould, all superb, all wonderful, but Only Schwarzkopf wraps you in her voice and lullabyes you away to the stars.
Caballe is the most terrible soprano ever. Dame Joan is the star. I can´t understand why this lady became that famous...Just compare her singing to Dame Joan, Birgit Nilsson or Renata Tebaldi. That´s the real thing..
who discovered this amazing perl? Thanks a lot... I always thought the Schwarzkopf interpretation of the last frase of this song was the best. There is something magic in the modultion, it has to come out. But Caballe did it better, and it was really something incredible. GREAT!!!!
Dear Oneguin65 - you're the best! This is gorgeous as are all your terrific postings in general.
You've given me access to beautiful voices I would not have known otherwise. Monserrat Caballe' is one a kind. I've heard many versions of Richard Strauss's Vier Letze Lieder. Many amazing ones. Jessye Norman, Kiri Te Kanawa and Renee Fleming's are superb. But this Beim Schlafen is ethereal. Monserrat is ethereal. Thank you with all my heart.
Die Caballe singt einfach nicht gut. Soviel Getue um diese Person - nur weil sie mit Mercury geträllert hat. Sutherland, Tebaldi und die Nilsson - das ist das einzige Dreigestirn. Schön übrigens wenn man noch deutsch schreiben kann in diesem heillosen Durcheinander hier!
"Kinder ihr aus fernen Zonen, saget mir warum ihr klagt..." M. Wesendonck behaltet recht..
c'est très curieux d'entendre une interprète qui a dédié sa vie au bel canto dans strauss ou elle réussit pleinement grâce à une intelligence et une sensibilité rares.
It seems that some people don't agree with you. But I do agree. Norman is awesome singing this. But then, the more I listen the more I think there is no one best rendering of this sublime work. Renee Fleming brings a warmth and fluidity I happen to love. Popp is great but the microphone is badly placed. Kiri Te Kanawa is wonderful as always. The first recording I had of this was by Schwarzkopf, about 45 years ago when I was at Juilliard. For my money she is still a heavy contender.
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its really rubbish! i love montserrat, but this is subterraneously...absolut!
reference: gewandhausorchestra,kurt masur,jessye norman, 4 last songs, 6 orchestra-songs, record from 1986 (phillips)------this is an enlightenment!....also e. schwarzkopf...
Nonsense! Mme Caballé speaks fluently german! Sie war im Ensemble in Basel und Saarbrücken! Ihre Salomé ist unvergeßlich! Janowitz mit ihrem metallischen vibrato? Ok wenn es Lisa della Casa ist!
Overall, I love Montserrat; however, I find I either adore her or abhor her on any given thing she sings. She tends to rely too heavily on that phenomenal pianissimi sometimes. The breath control in the 2nd half of this was astounding. Brava!
Meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach MUSS dieses Lied von einer deutschsprachigen Sängerin gesungen werden. Ich liebe die Interpretation von G. Janowitz..mit einer zurückhaltenden und zerbrechlich-melancholischen Stimmung, die ich hier nicht fühle. Dafür ist die Caballe einfach zu gewaltig.
Pero los cantantes Alemanes si pueden cantar en Italiano y Fritz Wunderlicht cantar Granada. No se debe ser tan intolerante el arte está por encima de estas mezquindades.
As much Caballe as I've seen and heard, her singing these songs is a first for me. That breath control makes the phrasing into what it was MEANT to be. This is first rank.
¿Por qué no hubo aplausos?
thereza25 3 months ago
@thereza25 Poque en una grupo de lieder es costumbre no aplaudir hasta que finalice, en este caso finaliza con Im Abendrtt, ahí si hay aplausos
Oneguin65 2 months ago
Oh dear, what is this swoopy train wreck? What a mess.
kca1988 6 months ago
Superb, even if she takes some liberties with the tempo and her German diction is not very clear. My two favorite versions remain Kiri te Kanawa and the original recording with Flagstad, scratchy old LP sound and all. Schwarzkopf? Technically sound but frigid, left me unmoved. Janowitz and Norman are OK, but I think Fleming is a mess, way too affected.
philipc67 1 year ago
@philipc67
I was in complete agreement as I read your comment about Flagstad, but your note about Schwarzkopf left me gasping....how oh how can you not hear the exquisite tenderness in Elizabeth's voice? So gentle, so...so everything anyone could want.
Listen again...
Flagstad, Popp, Janowitz, the terrible video with Lois Marshall and Glenn Gould, all superb, all wonderful, but Only Schwarzkopf wraps you in her voice and lullabyes you away to the stars.
PTCello 5 months ago
Caballe is the most terrible soprano ever. Dame Joan is the star. I can´t understand why this lady became that famous...Just compare her singing to Dame Joan, Birgit Nilsson or Renata Tebaldi. That´s the real thing..
vonFalkenstein77 1 year ago
@vonFalkenstein77 hahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!....great joke!
Miguelon3315 1 year ago
who discovered this amazing perl? Thanks a lot... I always thought the Schwarzkopf interpretation of the last frase of this song was the best. There is something magic in the modultion, it has to come out. But Caballe did it better, and it was really something incredible. GREAT!!!!
MmeFigaro 1 year ago
Dear Oneguin65 - you're the best! This is gorgeous as are all your terrific postings in general.
You've given me access to beautiful voices I would not have known otherwise. Monserrat Caballe' is one a kind. I've heard many versions of Richard Strauss's Vier Letze Lieder. Many amazing ones. Jessye Norman, Kiri Te Kanawa and Renee Fleming's are superb. But this Beim Schlafen is ethereal. Monserrat is ethereal. Thank you with all my heart.
tuadolcefanciulla 1 year ago
@tuadolcefanciulla My pleasure
Oneguin65 1 year ago
Dame Kiri's voice is a better choice for this piece, I think.
allislove1 2 years ago
@allislove1 but of course the best is Elisabeth Schwarzkopf.
chrizosthemis 1 year ago
@allislove1
Each person´s voice is a better choice, dear..
vonFalkenstein77 1 year ago
Beautiful.
brianh2000 2 years ago
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eImexicano1984 3 years ago
Ist mir zu aufgeregt, zuviel Vibrato, und dieses Schmieren zwischen den Tönen... nicht die richtige Sängerin für dieses Stück.
Referenz bleibt für mich die Janowitz mit Karajan, da passt einfach alles.
soulcollector83 3 years ago
@soulcollector83
Die Caballe singt einfach nicht gut. Soviel Getue um diese Person - nur weil sie mit Mercury geträllert hat. Sutherland, Tebaldi und die Nilsson - das ist das einzige Dreigestirn. Schön übrigens wenn man noch deutsch schreiben kann in diesem heillosen Durcheinander hier!
"Kinder ihr aus fernen Zonen, saget mir warum ihr klagt..." M. Wesendonck behaltet recht..
vonFalkenstein77 1 year ago
Just Glorious!
Apologranfortisimo 3 years ago
Muy emotivo. Preciosa interpretación! Increible control vocal y respiratorio.
colibridelapampa 3 years ago 2
c'est très curieux d'entendre une interprète qui a dédié sa vie au bel canto dans strauss ou elle réussit pleinement grâce à une intelligence et une sensibilité rares.
HoD3 3 years ago 3
I agree, Jessye Norman is the best for this!
64marc64 3 years ago
It seems that some people don't agree with you. But I do agree. Norman is awesome singing this. But then, the more I listen the more I think there is no one best rendering of this sublime work. Renee Fleming brings a warmth and fluidity I happen to love. Popp is great but the microphone is badly placed. Kiri Te Kanawa is wonderful as always. The first recording I had of this was by Schwarzkopf, about 45 years ago when I was at Juilliard. For my money she is still a heavy contender.
BillSalem 2 years ago 3
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its really rubbish! i love montserrat, but this is subterraneously...absolut!
reference: gewandhausorchestra,kurt masur,jessye norman, 4 last songs, 6 orchestra-songs, record from 1986 (phillips)------this is an enlightenment!....also e. schwarzkopf...
neromaxiede 3 years ago
Beautiful!!!
Tompa4321 3 years ago 4
Nonsense! Mme Caballé speaks fluently german! Sie war im Ensemble in Basel und Saarbrücken! Ihre Salomé ist unvergeßlich! Janowitz mit ihrem metallischen vibrato? Ok wenn es Lisa della Casa ist!
venise1946 4 years ago 3
Overall, I love Montserrat; however, I find I either adore her or abhor her on any given thing she sings. She tends to rely too heavily on that phenomenal pianissimi sometimes. The breath control in the 2nd half of this was astounding. Brava!
htshoward 4 years ago 6
excellent
chubblove 4 years ago
Damn Im sold.
FoggyRoad81 4 years ago
I often play this concert and I love it! I had never actually SEEN it! Beautiful!
sevoflurane 4 years ago
these are gorgeous!
coryisawake 4 years ago
Meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach MUSS dieses Lied von einer deutschsprachigen Sängerin gesungen werden. Ich liebe die Interpretation von G. Janowitz..mit einer zurückhaltenden und zerbrechlich-melancholischen Stimmung, die ich hier nicht fühle. Dafür ist die Caballe einfach zu gewaltig.
teebee2411 4 years ago
Pero los cantantes Alemanes si pueden cantar en Italiano y Fritz Wunderlicht cantar Granada. No se debe ser tan intolerante el arte está por encima de estas mezquindades.
2jasan 3 years ago 2
so schön, dass man weinen könnte
weberclaudia 4 years ago
ach was, ich meine, sie singt es zu Opernhaft
uorgel 3 years ago
Loved this.
Glenmed 4 years ago
As much Caballe as I've seen and heard, her singing these songs is a first for me. That breath control makes the phrasing into what it was MEANT to be. This is first rank.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
Superb. First heard her 40 years ago, "Casta Diva" in soundtrack behind film "Two Women" (Sofia Loren). Brava, Caballe!
sagalat 4 years ago