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  • this video has alot more like than the first one! :D lmao nice work

  • the attack with the 6lb hammer was awesome

    i have only ever worked with carbon steels

    and now have seen the light regarding titanium. what sort of prices do you pay for your scrap pieces of titanium ?

  • i want to be a smith some day

  • Annealing? Heat treating?

  • @lcusatis No. There's no carbon so no heat treating. It does toughen up some to quinch when hot, but I usually don't worry about it as it's tough enough on its own.

  • awesome.. it looks so easy in the cutted vid. how long does it take in real time?

  • @Fuzzllmao Bit more than an hour. Heating takes up a lot of time.

  • how did you make your touchmark? i would like to make my own for my knives

  • @chieffy35 Hot chiseled a mirror image of it into a piece of straightened coil spring and hardened and tempered it.

  • Titanium will react with oxygen if it reaches around 1200C which is few hundreds of degrees close to melting point. You only need an inert atmosphere IF you want to melt it. What he is doing here is just heating the titanium to shape it, i dont know the exact temperature but it shouldnt be higher than 900C i suppose. So it wont explode or burn at this point.

  • @nectar89 Actually it's being forged around 1,800 F to 2,100 F. No problem. No explosions. Heating to forge is not the same situation as melting it.

  • Now forge a Katana in Diamond!

  • where and how much is the titanum

  • @someramdomguy99 Aprox 1000$ more than those guys can afford!

  • is steel stronger than titanium,and is titanium easier to make stuff from.im just starting blacksmithing this weekend

  • Good work. What is the hardness of that knife? As far as I know titanium alloys are not as hard as tempered steel.

  • how much for the knife??

  • @MrKnives22  It's 85 + 10 s&h.

  • Im a welder and i gota say the heat treating didnt look that good but you artistic skills are fenominal and allso my eyes lit up when i seen that titanium knife hit with a slug and didnt even move damn i didnt think it was that strong makes steel look lime shit now...

  • where do you buy coal please help

  • looks antiqueish i like it

  • beautiful

  • Is is possible to forge a titanium katana?

  • @604Lao It's possible, but a steel one will be better.

  • mmm. how come steel would be better over titanium ?

  • @fritzalain It's harder so can give a better cutting edge. It is a myth that titanium is super hard, it scores 5 on the mohs scale, whereas high carbon tool steel scores 7.5. Titanium has about the same or better tensile and bending strength as steel (depending on how it's forged) but is only half the weight and because of the way it oxidises it is highly resistant to corrosion.

  • hey how did you make your forge, because im an aspiring blacksmith and i want to create my own forge first??

  • @NervsofSteel I made it myself from the plans in the back of my book.

  • @drgnfly4g That is one of the best Youtube responses ever. Hehehe. You are a very talented smith. Thank for the clay demonstration, I have never seen that used.

  • I have a nice outdoor forge set up ...its pretty a medevil style blacksmith post...been using nothing but leaf springs to work on...would love to work with titanium...awesome video man...dont let anyone talk shit on a dying art...we would be the most important people if a EMP ever went off...or economic collapse....

  • @ArtOfSelfReliance dude your so right im only 18 and have no idea how to forge but i have the up most respect for blacksmiths you guys are so talanted and you should keep doing it dont let it die off man!

  • this is awesome i wanna blacksmith some day

  • Does a titanium blade need to be tempered? Since you're not using steel, it doesn't seem like it would be necessary.

  • @OneEyedJack1970 You're right. No heat treating.

  • Wow, Titanium is stronger than I thought (yet it's supposed to be lighter than steel!). I heard it's harder to make a sharp edge, but I'd think this would be great for armor, especially with the sledgehammer demonstration; back in the day, warhammers were used to crack through steel plate armor like soup cans. Titanium seems more resilient.

  • Could you please tell what grade titanium was it?. And did the forging have effect on titaniums' structure?

  • @TactiSoldier I don't know as all Ti I work with is drops or scrap. It's usually medical grade. If you don't over heat it the structure is not damaged.

  • It is just laughing at that sledge hammer! great work!

  • How long did it take you to make this knife?

  • @timecrashzero About an hour and a half.

  • @drgnfly4g amazing! how ling have you been blacksmithing for?

  • @timecrashzero 39 years.

  • That was awesome....

  • wow i wonder how long it took to do this in 200B.C

  • @thenewimahich Were they mining Ti in 200 B.C.?

  • @drgnfly4g Imagine it losing sharpness. Would it be hard to make it sharp again?

  • @LXBD No problem just use the belt sander again.

  • I intensely envy your life. What I've seen anyway. It looks beautiful.

    Congratulations... :)

  • How do you sharpen it? Awesome by the way. If the knights of old had these. hehe I know geek out for a sec. still can't help but wonder.

  • beautiful blade. about how hot do u need to get the titanium till it reachs yellowish color? iv heated steel to the point where it turns very bright red and forged from there( slow going process but im still a begginer with scrap. still, blade turned out well.)

  • It's amazing to see things made from metal.

  • How much are you paying per unit of Ti?

  • @ChummyBubbles357 I've been fortunate to get most as gifts as scrap.

  • +1 for the hard work and experience, pity the power of the cut was shown =/ stll pretty good!

  • @dk0bl1v10n wasn't

  • where do u buy titanium

  • i only came here because my last name is smith lol

  • i wonder if i could make a katana with titanium

  • I'm a level 80 blacksmith in world of warcraft. You just made me realize how little i actually know :(

  • @rak000 level 80 is low as hell anyway, makes sense

  • How light it is?

  • @qpae123 lighter than steel but heavier than aluminum

  • An equisite work of art, but adding the color in the end makes it look more stained than colored. Thats my opinion anyway.. Thumbs up.~

  • The sledge was priceless lol XD

  • looks like he's hammering a glowstick, cracked me up.

  • lol i wish you could make me a sword named "Frostmourne" made out of a simple metal for free :D

  • Pure metal is malleable. Even pure gold is malleable, you can actually cut it with knife. If a metal is hard, its probably an alloy and not pure, this is probably an alloy of titanium with carbon, so you skeptics out there, its not gonna explode, cause its not pure.

  • @nasdin all metals are malleable, even alloys. It depends on the temperature at which you have them. Gold is a soft metal, and you can cut it with a knife, but not too easily. Other metals like iron or thorium are much harder. Titanium is even harder than that, even in its pure form. Only way titanium would explode is if it is found the same way it is found in nature: porous and full of gases. The titanium sample he is using is pure, just already compressed and ready to forge. Hope this helps!

  • The skeptics crack me up. "It would explode!!!" "Has to be done in a vacuum!!!" Try picking up a book from time to time.

  • do you know how rockwell hard this blade is? Also does titanium color in the same manner as steel?

  • just wundering why you would use titanium instead of carbon steel eather high or low

    just curious and hungry for information

    as im a blacksmithing student

  • Wow, I just always look at titanium as a modern industrial metal. I'd never think of hand working it. .... I'd love to see a blacksmith make a set of turbine blades by hand. :) Thanks for your vid. A real treat.

  • one word, AWESOMENESS! :D A true work of art dude! :D

  • awesome knife

    

  • A quick question. How well can titanium be sharpened, and does it hold the edge well? In comparison to steel for instance.

  • nice setup. got into blacksmithing but was never able to keep my stuff. buch of scrap thieves live near my grandpa's house. losing 2 anvils was enough to tell me to stop

  • What kind of fire you use

  • @telorinodelhoyoo I like a good coal fire the best, but I do have 2 gas forges that I built that work pretty good, too.

  • @drgnfly4g Quick question. I know titanium is stupid hard so when it dulls (if it dulls) do you have to sharpen it with a grinder or can you still sharpen it with a wet stone?

  • @drgnfly4g Uhm, could you make a body armor from Titanium? One like the Spartan armor from Halo? How much would it cost? Would it be heavy or light? Sorry for so many questions, but I would be really interested in acquiring one. With all that been said, only one more thing to add...You're doing a hell of a fine job sir! Keep up the good work! :)

  • very nice video. I love the way you walk thru the steps like you did and the piece looks absolutely great.

  • HOLY F*** IT ACTUALLY SPARKED WHEN U HIT IT WITH THE 6 POUND SLEDGE!!! nice vid btw (:

  • @kagetora7tsukiyo There are hundreds of companies that forge titanium. I've been doing t for over 25 years. Pure Ti and variuos alloys. I don't know where these crazy myths of explosions and being brittle come from. WRONG!!!!

  • @kagetora7tsukiyo Well its not Iron or steel to make it that hard to forge, and the colours are wrong for iron or steel. So if its not titanium, what do you suggest it is ? It looks like much harder work than steel to me. You're wrong, and drgnfly4g is right, titanium doesn't explode in contact with air. Well done for working such a hard material.

  • I got heart valves made of this stuff, nice to see it seems pretty sturdy :)

  • Nice, I love titanium.

  • Awesome video.

  • How much to have you make a full tang wakasashi out of that metal? :)

  • hard work but could have gone a little further to do the titanium justice, atm it looks very very ugly, but i cant say, i couldnt make one at all, nice job

  • Seeing how strong it is, does that translate that it holds an edge very well? Is there any steel in comparison for edge retention? Is it tough at all, I've heard being extremly strong correlates to very hard but can be brittle or is it very tough as well able to stand up to something like 5260 or L6?

  • i really wouldn't waste titanium on knifes. i say its too good for knifes i would probably make a nice sturdy sword out of it. i mean titanium is the strongest metal.

  • @Warlord795

    I thought adamantium is?

  • @Ragitsu it is but it isnt used for forging swords. it is very expensive. you would usually find bullets made out of the stuff. and again it is really expensive because it was reported to be nearly indestructible.

  • wil it hold an edge - I made 9/16-24 titanium tap for a project I made at work and it worked good once after that one time it lost it's edge

  • wil it hold an edge

  • question, if you put really hot metal(600-900*) in water to quick cool does it have a affect that it makes the metal more flexible or no effect?

  • @music1account First off it depends on what metal. Bronze and copper will soften if heated to red and then quenched in water. Steel will harden when heated to critical temperature, (when it loses its magnatism), and quenched. With titanium I see no effect of heating and quenching.

  • how much would one of these cost with a rat tail tang

  • @1999kgoodman rat tail tang? Are you kidding me? Why would anyoe waste titanium to make something so cheap? Rat tail tangs are weak and a pure sighn of cheapness. No sword should be made with a rat tail tang.

  • I want it!

  • verry nice and just to be clear did u temper it ?? and im going to pick up a copy of your book looks like you have some good techniques

  • @swett148 Thanks! No tempering for titanium.

  • how come titanium knifes are not very common? is it just because the steel is rare-er? or do people have quality control issues with titanium?

  • @djSpinege good titanium for blades is really really expensive

  • @djSpinege

    Titanium is much rarer and more expensive than steel. The advantages of titanium are that it has a huge elastic range compared with even the most noodley steel it also takes much longer to fatigue. The biggest disadvantages are cost and it can't be hardened like steel can what happens is the iron carbide and iron range themselves on the microscopic level to make steel harder (only works with at least .8% carbon) depending on how the steel is cooled from the austenitic range.

  • Awsome how much for a basic set of tool like that and where could I get quality ones check out something that I forged on my Chanel

  • damn...titanium is light and very strong ...is it possible to make a katana from that metal?keep it up make some more videos like this...haters can go to hell...(: greets from austria

  • @drgnfly4g Beautiful knife! How do you sharpen it?

  • Great video!!! =)

    You've done a pretty good job!

    Looking forward reading your book!

    How much does it cost?

  • awesome video!!! =)

    You've done a pretty good job!

    Looking forward reading your book?

    How much does it cost?

  • @Playdudy It's only $25. You can find links to it at DRGNFLY of you can even buy it at amazon.

    I hope you enjoy it and thanks!

  • I don't know how wise it is to hit a spring with lateral hamer blows at about head height.

  • @JamesThWilliams I wasn't hitting a spring. It's a piece of forged titanium,

  • @drgnfly4g

    Well you made me laugh but in that condition Titanium basically acts like a spring. On a serious note are you using pure titanium or a more common alloy ie 6al 4v?

  • This knife is gorgeous and would make the perfect prop for the Subtle Knife. =) Great vid!

  • were would a person that is new to blacksmithing get a proper forge for cheap?

    i love blacksmithing but my older brother makes fun of what i make

  • @deathwing58 That's contradictory terms, proper and cheap. Least expensive is probably using a brake drum from a car or truck and putting a grate over the hole in the middle. Do a search for "brake drum forge". Then you still need air. Go to the scrap yard to see what you can find for the blower. Good Luck!!!

  • If titanium makes such an excellent knife then why don't the more popular knife-makers use it in their products?

  • @raging1988  I've not seen anyone say it was an excellent material for a knife. It has it's good points and bad. Definitely steel is better.

  • i want a replica of Jack Krauser's Knife from resident evil 4 forged from titanium and usable does anyone know where i could get it made

  • @bobchrisman @bobchrisman Jack Krauser carried a MercWorx Sniper, it retails for about $400 and is an excellent knife. As others have pointed out, Titanium is actually a very poor material for a knife, which is why most knifemakers don't use it.

  • what is the easiest way to sharpen titanium

  • @JamesH657  Belt sander using various grits.

  • @drgnfly4g thank you

  • @drgnfly4g any sharpening kit should put a lovly edge on it depending on the edge material and grit/grain smoothness being used , and titanium is more heat resistant then steel not really that different otherwise

  • Seems people are giving you alot of grief about this. I would love to try it but sadly I dont have a source for stock. I actually built my own forge and other than a hammer and vice grips I dont have any tongs or other tools. I do okay making knives for myself. Mostly from leaf spring metal and rail spikes. I have d2 but im gathering experience so I dont waste it. I wonder how titanium would do and chrome vanadium wrenches as well. Edgeholding characteristcs? Durability? Advice please thanks :)

  • @azreal289 This was mainly done to show that titanium can be forged and that it is not britle as so many said. Maybe they think that because of improper welds can be brittle? This is very hard stuff. I'd recommend learn all that you can about the basics of forging and work with mild steel. Later, once you know the process, then try titanium. Join your local blacksmithing group for help with tools and lessons.

    As you see it is a tough material, but does not retain a sharp edge as well as steel

  • @azreal289 Titanium does not make an effective edge, as I pointed out in my previous comments that Mr McDaniel deleted.

    To answer your question about chrome vanadium, yes it makes a good blade, depending on the grade and the heat treatment it's hardness is between 44 and 56 HRC which while isn't as high as other steels, it's still enough to make an effective blade.

  • So you have to get it as close to 3034 °F for this to ever work .. I think some one is fibbin about its properties as it is overly difficult to acheive what your preaching about...and from what Im seeing if I got a alloy that was not magnetic doesnt mean its titanium..

  • @c0ldelement Too many people are booked learned, not by doing. I have been forging ti for over 30 years. I get it from machine shops and fabricators that know what it is. The sparks are a dead give away. Besides weight or lack there of. The coal forge will get hot enough to burn ti so getting to forging temp is no problem.

  • Physically demanding job.

  • *ahem* at temputures high enoughto make titanium mallueuble it will burn

  • @chrisray408  "ahem" obviously not. Don't you see me forging it which means it's malleable???

  • Why dont you make them like they used to in the olden days?

  • @Tomoomoo1 I don't live in the olden days.

  • @drgnfly4g true true but instead of using this mechanical stuff use what ever the old blacksmiths used to use:)

  • @Tomoomoo1 Sorry I don't understand. I used a coal forge, anvil, hammer and vise. All centuries old. This is what the "old" blacksmiths used!

  • @drgnfly4g 1:12 4:42

    Im pretty sure they didn't use those things:) Just saying you havn't done a bad job but that's how i would like to make my weapons preferably when i get older:(

  • thanks for the vidieo i needid to find out and you saved me the 5 ower study

  • how much would one of these cost

  • Some nice skills you have there, it's a shame such skills are no longer around\wanted in the uk.

  • @killergame1 The skills are there. BABA (British Artist Blacksmith Accociation) is a large group of smiths in the UK and many are excellent smiths! Look them up.

  • where can i buy that book?

  • @tenk89 My website, DRGNFLY4G will direct you to some sites as well being sold on amazon. Google the title and you'll find it. Thanks for the interest!

  • i made one out of aluminum foil... does that count? D:

  • what strength, the end of this video made it so much better, now image if that titanium was folded 40 times to for its blade. mmmmmm

  • @kingofae folding titanium wouldnt do anything to it for strengh......

  • @attackoftherandom i wonder, i have not done any research but logic lead me to my initial statement . Ill take your word tho, random guy, cause the google toolbar is too far away.....

  • @kingofae lol. but yea japanese swordsmiths stick to traditional material mostly and the steel is folded many times witch makes the steel structure weeker but it removes most of the impuritys in the steel. most modern steel doesnt need to be folded cuz its got so little impurity anyway. but i dont realy know much about titanium other than the basic logic of caomparing to steel and the fact that it is a element like iron. so you might be right.

  • Ugly as Hell, other then that though very nice work :]

  • What is the Square hole and the little circle used for on the Anvil?

  • By seeing those sparks, those blows obviously are STRONG, so yeah, titanium is stronger. :O

  • yo can make me a sword? i

  • could a centimeter of that stop medium caliber rifle bullets?

  • that is some amazing stuff

  • anyway, I am super impressed, and very thankful that you posted this. the subject of forging titanium on my anvil at home is something I gave up a long time ago because i thought it impossible. Again, thanks for proving me wrong!

    only one other question.... How well, does it hold an edge? and is there any special heat treating/ tempering procedure?

  • @matthew365cool and @drgnfky4g....

    I too am very interested in this question of burning titanium. I was a tig welder at a bicycle company for a few years, welding very thin walled tubing of 3v2.5al titanium alloy. If we lost purge (pure argon) while welding, the material would indeed spot burn and become so brittle that it was no longer any good. Since i worked as a blacksmith for years before working at the bike shop, I have been interested in forging ti for some time. Great video!

  • now i know what to use to cut my cake.

  • is that a mousehole anvil?

  • @MrThahey Yes.

  • @drgnfly4g I've always wanted one of those

  • i always drop stuff in im holding in my hands, so this wouldnt be a good job/hobby for me xD

  • Beautiful work Randy, I could watch your videos all day long. Thanks for posting your videos. Very helpful to us beginners!! Peace to you and yours ..

  • The man likes his dragons

  • it was my understanding the the compisition of titanium makes it a very poor chioce of metal for knives and swords because of its inabilty to keep a keen edge for any length of time, this is why sword smiths use carbon steel and not titanium but for a display item it may be ok

  • Actually this was more informative than my material lab coarses thx for your effort

  • how about showing us how to forge a tungsten blade

  • I can almost hear the knife laughing as you stress-test it with the sledgehammer. XD

    Really nice. Always had a fascination with metalworking, although I've never had the means to pursue it. ^^;

  • thats good it wont break.. but will it blend?

  • @MattieTheBear  Blend? It bends enough that it won't break.

  • @drgnfly4g lol its a joke

  • @MattieTheBear Do you mean bend? If not, what do you mean by "blend"?

  • @drgnfly4g haha, its a joke. look up blendtec (:

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  • @drgnfly4g If you mean in a blender, then no. It would rip a steel blender to shreads.

  • i dream of being a blacksmith but i dont think i have what it takes to become one. im not the best artist but then again sculpting is something i havent done in my life. any recommendations to see if i have the artistic ability? what could i try to see if i can do it

  • @eltotoloco69 When I started 38 years ago I wasn't artistic either. I started making colonial reproduction hardware and tools. Later I learned the steps in doing flowers and heads. It can grow with practice. Take a class some where, there are a lot of craft schools, and see how it goes for you.

  • you make that look way too easy