@2008venom do you think they didn't try to achieve liberty? -_- so rather than accepting America's help, are you saying it would have been better to refuse and try for years on end to gain independence, unsure if freedom would ever be achieved or not? I understand you have your own opinion, but this comment is seriously very insulting and insensitive. Please try to refrain from spreading disharmony and just negativity in general. It's shocking how biased some people can be -_-
Sure, I think that most of Korean people didn't try to achieve liberty.
Only small group of terrorists committed anti-Japanese terrorism but it was not supported by ordinary people in Korea.
After WWII, suck small group of terrorists grabbed power in Korea, and they started propaganda to pretend it was common will of Koreans. It's shocking how biased some people like you are being deceived by such propaganda.
It is proven by the fact that there was no big riot issue occured in Korea after March 1st movement in 1919. Some people say that independence movement was strictly suppressed by Japanese military -
Bbut there was only two infantry divisions stationed in Korea by Japanese army. How only 20,000 soldiers could suppress 20,000,000 Koreans ? It was possible because majority of Koreans accepted Japanese rule.
it's kind of scary how intense everybody is about this 0__o
but to the people saying 'oh dokdo isn't korea, so stupid' etc...why are you even watching this video?? it clearly says 'dokdo is korea land' in the title. why would you click on something, just to hate on it...? -_-
also, as a korean, i'm really hurt when people make insensitive comments about korea
And also in this world you really cant tell what actually the truth is, how can you know that the government is telling the truth?
Patriotism and loyalty are just good tools used to manipulate the citizens. They suggest a point, and the citizens pursue it on their own without much nudging.
well if you really prove the point you should present a reliable source to back the point up. Like actually posting a link or bibliography of the source.
preferably the source not being from Korea or Japan since it is likely biased in someway.
@whatever6724 said "preferably the source not being from Korea or Japan"
Let me get this straight. You don't want ANY evidence from either Korea or Japan. You realize ALL outside evidence refers back to their original Korean OR Japanese SOURCES. Moreso IF it doesn't refer back to either a Korean or Japanese source would you even want to use them? So where do you suggest we get it from? Never never land? What government evidence do you trust? Why the FUCK are you even here?
★ "Dokdo" is a wrong name !! Now, South Korea is illegally occupying a Japanese island "Takeshima" by force. So far, the Japanese government has proposed to put the sovereignty of Takeshima on a trial by the International Court of Justice many times. But the South Korean government has always rejected this proposal because in fact, they know Takeshima is Japanese territory. Moreover, sly South Koreans have loudly repeated false advertisings all over the world to steal Japanese territory !!
Oh poor Mr. 2008venom. Didn't have a clue when trying to debate the Dokdo issue. So is now reduced to making dumbass racists comments on youtube. Makes you wonder who really has the inferiority complex. HAHAHA!!! Awwww...feel better now dipshit? :)
I think both sides should just cool it down, don't you think name calling just lets you stoop to the level of the people your making fun of?
I understand its a issue that may get to your head, but if you truly believe what you are saying you should list the facts, and leave it at that, since name calling only makes your argument seem fake as well as unconvincing.
If you've been following me on youtube you'll notice many Japanese nationalist making bold statements and assertions about Dokdo. I've been simply asking them to prove it. Almost none of them do. The small group that actually does present evidence can EASILY be refuted. But most just come back with some racist comments. In the end THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. And most people outside of Korea/Japan could give a rats ass about this issue.
IMO, before claiming Dokdo to be Korean territory, Korean might make sincere efforts to get back their territories in YouTube.
It's a shame to know that Korean people can not get a new account of YouTube because numerous fake access were observed and it was made in order to increase the view counts of certain Korean propaganda videos like this one.
Shameless peple, but we can forgive and forget it. Let bygones be bygones.
센카쿠 열도를 불법 점거하고 있고 쿠릴 열도는 물론 독도까지 훔치기 위해서 불법 영유권 주장을 하고 있기 때문에 정말로 가관이다. 센카쿠 열도를 지배하고 있기 때문에 국제 재판소에 갈 이유가 없다고 하면서 더구나 센카쿠 열도의 실효 지배를 강화하기 위해서 군사까지 동원하고 있고 뿐만이 아니고, 1965년 대한민국의 영토인 독도를 폭탄으로 폭발시키자고 한 놈들이 무슨 염치로 그렇게 말할까? 타국의 영토를 훔치는 도둑놈들이. 타국의 영토를 훔치기 위해서 개수작을 하면서 국제사회를 기만하는 일본은 과연 양심 있는 국가인가? 적반하장도 유분수다. 도둑이라면 주제 파악을 해라. 도둑놈과 사기꾼.
@JapanAsCool said "Okay, then do you have any old Korean maps that depict Dokdo?"
If you don't like Korean maps, then simply look at official Japanese maps and Japanese government documents that state that Dokdo is Korean territory. Boy, you're pretty stupid.
I just said that Usando can never look the same as the present shape of Takeshima/Dokdo to human eyes.
I really don't understand you can believe Usando is Dokdo in old Korean maps because there are NO old korean maps depicting it correctly as to its shape, location and size let alone the name.
You just went hysteric with parotting my words in reverse, not answering my answer nor rebutting my point AT ALL.
I took my time to answer your question and can you make it worth my while?
Don't need to prove whether or not Usando is Dokdo or not. Official Japanese materials clearly point out that Dokdo is Korean territory. No one needs to argue or answer your lame as point dumbass. THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IDIOT. Boy you're pretty stupid... HAHAHA!!!
hahaha, so you are saying accuracy doesn't matter here , okay, I took it that Korea would not be able to present any accurate evdence or no talent to persuade or rebut someone's point to prove your legitimacy of your thoughs, ideas and so on...
That answer the reasons why some Korean people still belive the 鉄腕アトム or Astro Boy was maede in Korea, why Ranma1/2, Japanese manga, was stealed by Korean who changed its name with some alternation and invented Ranma1/3 (haha hiralious)
I like how you dodged the whole Japanese maps and Japanese government documents evidence I presented and you're talking to ME about ACCURACY? HAHAHA, what a dumbass!!! Again, since you ain't got shit you've been reduced to making dumbass racist comments. Whatever moron, deflect as much as you like. It's just more proof that you have NOTHING when it comes to Dokdo.
Pokemon is known as Powermon in Korea, which is accurate and well documented and Japanese people claims it to be made in Japan.
So it's not dumbass to claim that Powermond is copied and distorted version of Pokemon and it's natural to cast a doubt on the nature of claims by Korea when it comes to taliking about "fair and balanced" especially when we have to deal with someone who dodges answering right.
Hey come on, it's not a shame to show us some respects, you know, Japan had gave away plenty of good things to Korea, during the annexation of Korea, Revival and re-education of Hangul(Korean Language,) abandoned as vulgar writing system by Koreans themselves, who put the highest value on Chinese culture not on their own.
builiding many schools (in fact before the anexation, primary school only less 100 which jumped up to over 4,000 along with big leap in Korean leteracy rate from 10% to 70%).
Japan abolished outdated Korean social class system and accepted all Korean children equally to schools.
Awww, what are you done getting your ass spanked about Dokdo? Truth hurts doesn't it? Now you have to throw in irrelevant bullshit, what feel better now? Boy not only are you stupid and racist but a 4 year old as well.. HAHAHA!!!
@3goku Don't worry, Korea is a child of Japan. Korean back then during the annexation evoluted by the Japanese kind treatment.
It's natural that you feel shame because Koreans those days didn't do those evolution by other countries, this case Japan, not by theirown.
All Japanese know it but doesn't venture to express it because we and Japanese and you and Korean knew that Japan has been better than almost anything, and you know that.. "hahaha" again? okay okay.
I thought you were doing a research paper? What are you still doing on youtube? Trying to gather more evidence? I told you to go look at old Japanese government maps and official Japanese government documents showing proof Dokdo is Korean territory didn't I? You know since you didn't want to be biased right? :)
BTW it doesn't have to "work" Korea already controls it.
Japs really love the Dok Island, so I never mind of it. Take this away, but!
Give back the Tsushima Isalnd (the Daema Island in Korean) instead. That one historically and practically belongs to the Korean Peninsula, or stop being greedy!
Japs always ask Koreans to bring this issue to the the International court of justice, but there are about 3 Japanese judges out of 9. That is why they say so with their advantage.
However, how about the Diaoyu Islands of China and the 4 Kuril Isalsnds of Russia? They just shut up about them for the Court.
Stop speaking in a babylike tone, Island monkeys. You're too selfish!
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Japan is always stealing koreans stuff. sometimes i'm kind worried about them. because when they died, they will fall down to the hell because they block their eyes and hide the truth. discusting Japan
@2008venom do you think they didn't try to achieve liberty? -_- so rather than accepting America's help, are you saying it would have been better to refuse and try for years on end to gain independence, unsure if freedom would ever be achieved or not? I understand you have your own opinion, but this comment is seriously very insulting and insensitive. Please try to refrain from spreading disharmony and just negativity in general. It's shocking how biased some people can be -_-
kirarinidol 1 month ago
@kirarinidol
Sure, I think that most of Korean people didn't try to achieve liberty.
Only small group of terrorists committed anti-Japanese terrorism but it was not supported by ordinary people in Korea.
After WWII, suck small group of terrorists grabbed power in Korea, and they started propaganda to pretend it was common will of Koreans. It's shocking how biased some people like you are being deceived by such propaganda.
2008venom 1 month ago
@kirarinidol
It is proven by the fact that there was no big riot issue occured in Korea after March 1st movement in 1919. Some people say that independence movement was strictly suppressed by Japanese military -
Bbut there was only two infantry divisions stationed in Korea by Japanese army. How only 20,000 soldiers could suppress 20,000,000 Koreans ? It was possible because majority of Koreans accepted Japanese rule.
2008venom 1 month ago
it's kind of scary how intense everybody is about this 0__o
but to the people saying 'oh dokdo isn't korea, so stupid' etc...why are you even watching this video?? it clearly says 'dokdo is korea land' in the title. why would you click on something, just to hate on it...? -_-
also, as a korean, i'm really hurt when people make insensitive comments about korea
kirarinidol 1 month ago
And also in this world you really cant tell what actually the truth is, how can you know that the government is telling the truth?
Patriotism and loyalty are just good tools used to manipulate the citizens. They suggest a point, and the citizens pursue it on their own without much nudging.
whatever6724 2 months ago
well if you really prove the point you should present a reliable source to back the point up. Like actually posting a link or bibliography of the source.
preferably the source not being from Korea or Japan since it is likely biased in someway.
whatever6724 2 months ago
@whatever6724 said "preferably the source not being from Korea or Japan"
Let me get this straight. You don't want ANY evidence from either Korea or Japan. You realize ALL outside evidence refers back to their original Korean OR Japanese SOURCES. Moreso IF it doesn't refer back to either a Korean or Japanese source would you even want to use them? So where do you suggest we get it from? Never never land? What government evidence do you trust? Why the FUCK are you even here?
3goku 2 months ago
literally this all seems like kids fighting over who gets to play with the toy.
If you are adults act like it, list your facts that are verified, and list your sources so people can evaluate the validity of the source.
This is the internet, no one knows who you are, therefore you have no credibility unless you can list authentic sources to back your statement up.
whatever6724 2 months ago
★ "Dokdo" is a wrong name !! Now, South Korea is illegally occupying a Japanese island "Takeshima" by force. So far, the Japanese government has proposed to put the sovereignty of Takeshima on a trial by the International Court of Justice many times. But the South Korean government has always rejected this proposal because in fact, they know Takeshima is Japanese territory. Moreover, sly South Koreans have loudly repeated false advertisings all over the world to steal Japanese territory !!
oneofthejapanese 3 months ago
@2008venom
Oh poor Mr. 2008venom. Didn't have a clue when trying to debate the Dokdo issue. So is now reduced to making dumbass racists comments on youtube. Makes you wonder who really has the inferiority complex. HAHAHA!!! Awwww...feel better now dipshit? :)
3goku 3 months ago 4
@3goku
I think both sides should just cool it down, don't you think name calling just lets you stoop to the level of the people your making fun of?
I understand its a issue that may get to your head, but if you truly believe what you are saying you should list the facts, and leave it at that, since name calling only makes your argument seem fake as well as unconvincing.
whatever6724 2 months ago
@whatever6724
If you've been following me on youtube you'll notice many Japanese nationalist making bold statements and assertions about Dokdo. I've been simply asking them to prove it. Almost none of them do. The small group that actually does present evidence can EASILY be refuted. But most just come back with some racist comments. In the end THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. And most people outside of Korea/Japan could give a rats ass about this issue.
3goku 2 months ago
@whatever6724
But I'm always open to have a lively debate on the issue. :)
3goku 2 months ago
Kimchi girl > Do you know the island Dokdo?
confederate> Of course I know.
Wahahahahah, ROFLOLBAG!!!! What(s happening here!!!!! New fake history,, loloo
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
IMO, before claiming Dokdo to be Korean territory, Korean might make sincere efforts to get back their territories in YouTube.
It's a shame to know that Korean people can not get a new account of YouTube because numerous fake access were observed and it was made in order to increase the view counts of certain Korean propaganda videos like this one.
Shameless peple, but we can forgive and forget it. Let bygones be bygones.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
“Do you know the reason why Dokdo is NOT Korea Land?”
watch?v=LKlXq7ZMy6M&feature=channel_video_title
“당신은 알고 계십니까? 다케시마가 한국영토가 아닌,그 이유를.”
watch?v=NqkjmwaeXkE&feature=channel_video_title
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
“Does there exist any old Korean map which depicted Takeshima/Dokdo?”
watch?v=H91QN6ho8jU&feature=channel_video_title
“한국에는 타케시마를 그린 고지도는 존재할까?: 일한 고지도의 비교”
watch?v=P_hWLuCUvwY&feature=channel_video_title
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
watch?v=0moIzd-DBXw&feature=channel_video_title
あなたは独島がどうして日本の領土ではない理由が分かりますか?
watch?v=gzShcxQhnJk&feature=channel_video_title
日本の古地図は独島が存在しようか?
watch?v=T-l3efq_WTE&feature=channel_video_title
[TD] #01 日本の公式地図に 独島は存在しない。
watch?v=7q5OFpmfrAM&feature=channel_video_title
日本は地図偽造と捏造をしています.
watch?v=nyOn1GYSrRU&feature=channel_video_title
日本の領土ではない独島は大韓民国の領土です.
rhrnfu12 3 months ago
센카쿠 열도를 불법 점거하고 있고 쿠릴 열도는 물론 독도까지 훔치기 위해서 불법 영유권 주장을 하고 있기 때문에 정말로 가관이다. 센카쿠 열도를 지배하고 있기 때문에 국제 재판소에 갈 이유가 없다고 하면서 더구나 센카쿠 열도의 실효 지배를 강화하기 위해서 군사까지 동원하고 있고 뿐만이 아니고, 1965년 대한민국의 영토인 독도를 폭탄으로 폭발시키자고 한 놈들이 무슨 염치로 그렇게 말할까? 타국의 영토를 훔치는 도둑놈들이. 타국의 영토를 훔치기 위해서 개수작을 하면서 국제사회를 기만하는 일본은 과연 양심 있는 국가인가? 적반하장도 유분수다. 도둑이라면 주제 파악을 해라. 도둑놈과 사기꾼.
rhrnfu12 3 months ago 2
尖閣列島を不法占拠しているし千島列島はもちろん独島まで盗むために不法領有権主張をしているからまことに 可観だ. 尖閣列島を支配しているから国際裁判所へ行く理由がないと言いながらその上に 尖閣列島の実效支配を強化するために軍事まで動員しているからだけでなく, 1965年大韓民国の領土である独島を爆弾で爆発させようと言った 奴らが何の 廉恥でそのように言うか? 他国の領土を盗む泥棒奴だな. 他国の領土を盗むために個数作をしながら国際社会を欺瞞する日本は果して良心ある国家だろう? 賊反荷杖も 有分数だ. 泥棒なら主題把握をしなさい. 泥棒 奴と詐欺師.
rhrnfu12 3 months ago 4
Okay, then do you have any old Korean maps that depict Dokdo?
I know there are plenty of old Korean maps which depict Ulleungdo and Usando.
Are you saying Usando is the present Dokdo?
Then look at those old Korean maps in which Usando were never depicted correctly as to its shape, location and size.
How can anyone with a brain depict such a small object INCORECTLY for such a long time?
Someone tell me what I can find any old korean maps that depict Dokdo correctly>
Where?????????????
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@JapanAsCool said "Okay, then do you have any old Korean maps that depict Dokdo?"
If you don't like Korean maps, then simply look at official Japanese maps and Japanese government documents that state that Dokdo is Korean territory. Boy, you're pretty stupid.
3goku 3 months ago 2
@3goku
I just said that Usando can never look the same as the present shape of Takeshima/Dokdo to human eyes.
I really don't understand you can believe Usando is Dokdo in old Korean maps because there are NO old korean maps depicting it correctly as to its shape, location and size let alone the name.
You just went hysteric with parotting my words in reverse, not answering my answer nor rebutting my point AT ALL.
I took my time to answer your question and can you make it worth my while?
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@JapanAsCool
Don't need to prove whether or not Usando is Dokdo or not. Official Japanese materials clearly point out that Dokdo is Korean territory. No one needs to argue or answer your lame as point dumbass. THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IDIOT. Boy you're pretty stupid... HAHAHA!!!
3goku 3 months ago
@3goku
hahaha, so you are saying accuracy doesn't matter here , okay, I took it that Korea would not be able to present any accurate evdence or no talent to persuade or rebut someone's point to prove your legitimacy of your thoughs, ideas and so on...
That answer the reasons why some Korean people still belive the 鉄腕アトム or Astro Boy was maede in Korea, why Ranma1/2, Japanese manga, was stealed by Korean who changed its name with some alternation and invented Ranma1/3 (haha hiralious)
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@3goku
why Korean people became familiar with POWERMON not POKEMON.
Yeah, your counry is not lame as point dumbass. Way to go!!
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@JapanAsCool
I like how you dodged the whole Japanese maps and Japanese government documents evidence I presented and you're talking to ME about ACCURACY? HAHAHA, what a dumbass!!! Again, since you ain't got shit you've been reduced to making dumbass racist comments. Whatever moron, deflect as much as you like. It's just more proof that you have NOTHING when it comes to Dokdo.
3goku 3 months ago
@3goku
Pokemon is known as Powermon in Korea, which is accurate and well documented and Japanese people claims it to be made in Japan.
So it's not dumbass to claim that Powermond is copied and distorted version of Pokemon and it's natural to cast a doubt on the nature of claims by Korea when it comes to taliking about "fair and balanced" especially when we have to deal with someone who dodges answering right.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@JapanAsCool
Again the old duck and dodge. Can't go nowhere with the whole Dokdo debate. Need to be a baby and talk about Pokemon of all things. HAHAHAHA!!!!
Wow, you really are stupid aren't you? :)
3goku 3 months ago
@3goku
haha what you were doing wad "debate" haha, in Korea, that's debate okay way to go!.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@JapanAsCool
Yes I agree it wasn't a debate. More like a spanking. :)
3goku 3 months ago
@3goku
Hey come on, it's not a shame to show us some respects, you know, Japan had gave away plenty of good things to Korea, during the annexation of Korea, Revival and re-education of Hangul(Korean Language,) abandoned as vulgar writing system by Koreans themselves, who put the highest value on Chinese culture not on their own.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@3goku
builiding many schools (in fact before the anexation, primary school only less 100 which jumped up to over 4,000 along with big leap in Korean leteracy rate from 10% to 70%).
Japan abolished outdated Korean social class system and accepted all Korean children equally to schools.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@3goku
Japan built a prestigious university, Seoul Imperial University and gave Koreans an opportunity to take advanced and modern education.
The number of population of Koreans incresased from 13 millions in 1910 to 25 millions in 1944.
Although Koreans never admit these contributions by Japan.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@JapanAsCool
Awww, what are you done getting your ass spanked about Dokdo? Truth hurts doesn't it? Now you have to throw in irrelevant bullshit, what feel better now? Boy not only are you stupid and racist but a 4 year old as well.. HAHAHA!!!
3goku 3 months ago
@3goku Don't worry, Korea is a child of Japan. Korean back then during the annexation evoluted by the Japanese kind treatment.
It's natural that you feel shame because Koreans those days didn't do those evolution by other countries, this case Japan, not by theirown.
All Japanese know it but doesn't venture to express it because we and Japanese and you and Korean knew that Japan has been better than almost anything, and you know that.. "hahaha" again? okay okay.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
It was Japan who made Korea one of the most modern country in the world from what was once the foulest country on earth.
Korea was just a hopeless, helpless, pitiable, piteous country at great powers mercy.
Korean back then were destined to gradual improvement with the aid of Japan, and we did it for your country.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
I'm saying that it's not a shame for Korean to accept the fact.
We can kindly forgive and forget your bullshits so BEHAVE.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
Korean gov. appeares to be busy posting and creating vids like this using attractive women to spread their propaganda.
Is it fair and balanced to listen to just one-sided opinion from Korea?
Here are some vids from Japan conveying our point of view over the isuue.
"Do you know the reason why Dokdo is NOT Korea Land?"
watch?v=LKlXq7ZMy6M&feature=channel_video_title
"Does there exist any old Korean map which depicted Takeshima/Dokdo?"
watch?v=H91QN6ho8jU&feature=channel_video_title
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
씨빡 쪽빠리새끼들아 ! 돌고래먹지마 !! = jap ! stop eating dolphin !!
cajahalaw 3 months ago
This vid is so nasty.
Feel so sad that the Koreans can only prove that Dokdo is their land by doing this shit.
It's not even working.
lolokooza 4 months ago
@lolokooza
I thought you were doing a research paper? What are you still doing on youtube? Trying to gather more evidence? I told you to go look at old Japanese government maps and official Japanese government documents showing proof Dokdo is Korean territory didn't I? You know since you didn't want to be biased right? :)
BTW it doesn't have to "work" Korea already controls it.
3goku 4 months ago
Dokdo est la terre de la Corée du! S'il vous plaît passer le mot!
blueangel8034 4 months ago
Korean=paranoid personality disorder
Please do not help them
They make you unhappy forever!!!
All of them is a fake.
mevsvista 4 months ago
Jap=Nazi
abacos50 4 months ago in playlist SimpleTouchGroup님의 동영상 더보기
SO sad... What will be left in South Korea if the anti-Japan thoughts would be disappeared from the peninsula.
guishan1981 4 months ago 2
Japan(=凸)애들아 우리보고 독도가 왜 한국 땅인지 설명하라고 하기전에
그럼 왜 너희 땅인지부터 설명해다오...
88build88 4 months ago 2
Japs really love the Dok Island, so I never mind of it. Take this away, but!
Give back the Tsushima Isalnd (the Daema Island in Korean) instead. That one historically and practically belongs to the Korean Peninsula, or stop being greedy!
gustav63 4 months ago in playlist Liked
Japs always ask Koreans to bring this issue to the the International court of justice, but there are about 3 Japanese judges out of 9. That is why they say so with their advantage.
However, how about the Diaoyu Islands of China and the 4 Kuril Isalsnds of Russia? They just shut up about them for the Court.
Stop speaking in a babylike tone, Island monkeys. You're too selfish!
gustav63 4 months ago
일본놈들 진짜 징글징글하다
ekdus428 4 months ago
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Japan is always stealing koreans stuff. sometimes i'm kind worried about them. because when they died, they will fall down to the hell because they block their eyes and hide the truth. discusting Japan
rhdwkdto 4 months ago
Tous Japs sont super-monteurs!
ustreamer909 4 months ago
don't lie anymore Japan-- 인정할껀 인정해라 좀
SPeanutG 4 months ago
일본 나대지 좀 말래.....진짜 인터넷에서 드립치는거 주접이다
SPeanutG 4 months ago
The Japanese fellow is the thief of public !!!
33divigi 5 months ago
Dokdo is Korea Land
MenuExit098 5 months ago
Out of the blue, so many Japanese are swarming like flies into this video. They must have the same blood as flies.
youngk9lover 5 months ago
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
goldenmunt 5 months ago