Bullshit, these jatts have invaded Sikh kaum fucking worshipping bull shit devis n doing puja iv sang jarnail singh ji was here he'd kill all these pakhandis!
@khalistanforlife go to Hazoor sahib nd say the same thing then u see who is creating BullS*** nd keep ur comments with urself...!! nd u also need to change ur name from "Khalistanforlife" to "KhalistanNoLife"!!
@SIYAChod so u mean to say k Dasam di Baani tere-mere varge kise bande ne bnayi c te os da naam de dita Dasam di baani??? Nihang Singh v fake bande hunde hone aa fer according to u.. i think u r d real WAheGuru,, v should bow to u...!! ? hahaha
Aarti,pooja, is that allowed in Sikhism, aj kal har koyi baba sant baneya firda Usey hi tarah har koyi gatka khelan wala apne aap nu "guru ki laadli fauj" da sipahi banayi firda aa. Even oh sikhi ch poora hove ya na hove agar dasam Granth guru gobind Singh g da likheya( ya likhaya) Hoya aa naley ohni sikha nu dasam Granth mannan layi keha aa ta ohni Shri guru Granth sahib g vich eh kiyo daraj karwaya k "sub sikhan ko hukum hai guru maaneyo Granth".
@SIYAChod i dnt understand k thonu samjh kyo nahi aa rahi... its really funny and childish things that u r talkin abt... if u r sayin all these things that surely means k u dnt Believe in Amrit that is prepared as per Guru Gobind Singh ji's aageya.. where is it written that v hav to be baptised and only by takin Amrit? y do v wear kakaars? y do v read 5 Baani da path.. fer ta tuci pehla eh Questions da ans labho Dasam Granth te behas ta baut baad ch kareyo aa ke!
@SIYAChod u r soo Giyani this can b seen from ur msgs! u dnt even kno k Guru Granth Sahib ch Guru Gobind Singh g di koi baani included nai aa ta obvious aa k ohna ne aapdi Dasam di baani ch eh likhea aa "Guru Maneo Granth" secondly tuc zyada padhe likhe o and baabe o then u stay that way., no need to make comments about something u don't even know!!
''Sabh sikhan ko hukam hai Guru Manyo Granth'' - sanu guru granth sahib ji maharaj nu mananaa chidah then study about dasam granth sahib ji whats the point learning about dasam granth sahib if you dont no nothing about your guru.
'Bolan Satguru Sabath Samphakan'' if you want to talk to satguru ji you have to read the shabads of your guru.
@Desikayonline ---everyone knows that and i never said anything against it bhai sahib g..!
but guru granth sahib g de nal nal shastar videya te shastar puja v hai eh v saanu bhulna nai chahida g... bas ehi msg aa eh video da. don't get into arguements neither we want to..g
@Desikayonline so u must not be doin 5 baniya da path? i mean 3 banis in our Nitnem are from Guru Gobind Singh g's Granths.. we r jus readin the same Granth g.. and Dasam Granth is also Granth of Sikhs not of Muslims!!?
@khalsamartialart Khalsa meri roop hai khas, khalsa meri jaan ki jaan... these guys akj, ddt sgpc all try to be khalsa.. bt they wont.. so are you nihang singhs?
@Punjabibahman Correct it!! Khalsa mero Roop hai khaas, Khalse mein hou'n karo'n niwaas" ... We are Sikhs,, Guru Gobind Singh ji's Sikh :) nd v aren't here for discriminating anybody!
@Desikayonline ---yea dats completely true but ppl don't understand it and we never put our videos to create such issues. still people thinking themselves to be at more high command than Guru Sahib say so... jus tryin our best to spread awareness
Maharaaj has told you to read your panj bhaniya including jaap sahib. if you don't believe in dasam granth you have no point being in sikhi. even bhani from Dasam Granth says : ''Bolan Satguru Sabath Sampakhan'' - if you want to talk to your satguru read the shabads of your guru. & Guru Gobind Singh Ji Has said who ever discards jaap sahib & does not read jaap sahib will never have my darshan. japji sahib is the soothar if Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj - Jaap Sahib is the soother of Dasam Granth
Gosh! i dnt understand dat y ppl r fighting here?? Sikhs r very famous for quarrels amongst demselves nd dese comments are very gud xample of it... dose who dn't believe in Dasam Granth, hardly matters v r not conveying any such msg thru dis vid. if any1 wants to blieve dey can, if dey dn't want to bliv its dier wish. extremists can never face d reality...dey can jus argue.
the "enemy" if there is 1 is our own Narrow minded view to compare SIkhi in a Semetic Christianised way! It is not a religion! It is a Mystical Pathway of Eastern Wisdom that embraces the ENtire Cosmos! Built upon Nam Simran and Gurbani! Not just mere appearance and shouting "yes i am a SIkh thari pagh thats it".
Irrespective of whether Gurbani Talks in the Context of Metaphor/Historical meanings the Bare Fact is we cannot entirely Escape Terminology of Hinduism Islam or even Christianity and Judaism! Sikhi is so Sacred that makes it Diff is not a Mere "religion". But a SPiritual Pathway That recognises God in All Mankind!
each and every page of Guru Granth Sahib Ji was Narrated from Memory by Guru Gobind Singh Ji! Hence if any did not fit in with Dasmesh Pitta Jis Line of Thought it would not be there!
Guru Gobind Singh Ji was magnanimous. His vision/creation (the Khalsa)/literary writing all have a common link that binds them together. He gave expression to doctrinal ideology of Gurmat through his writings and as an extension of this ideology started a war for the freedom and upliftment of society.
How it saying that God made a mistake by making women, giving a doctrinal ideology of Gurmat? What gurmat is in that? What gurmat do we find when reading stories of Devis?
"Patshahi Dasvi " above every Baani He created and still u dnt believe in any of Dasam ki Baanis?? and still u'd wld also b one of those who recite 5 Baanis in the morning as a part of Nitnem or u dn't do even that??
That means nothing if the teachings in the granth are opposite of the message that Guru Granth Sahib ji is trying to convey. Second, the history behind this granth is very vague, I mean it took the Sodhak comittee 189 years after Guru Gobind Singh ji's demise to finalize this granth. How come it took so long? Guru Gobind Singh ji could never write such things that are in that granth. I do beleive that the nitnem bani's are of Guru Gobind Singh ji's writings.
@khalsamartialart Did guru gobind singh ji asked you to recite the 5 banis? No its the decision of the panth which has been taken after various meetings of the profs and historians and its the sikh's decision to include these 5 banis in our daily routine. On the other hand for the arguments sake I have one question for you. Why is that we only read chuapai up to a particular point, does it mean the other things are not suitable for a Sikh to read in dasam granth.
Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji manifsted his goal for the well being of all humanity in the form of a religious war of righteousness which aimed at destroying the inhuman and cruel administrative system of times. Guru Gobind Singh Ji emerges as one of the greatest in the chronicles of mankind.
Created with the aim of waging a war of righteousness the Dasam Granth is that unique and unforgettable offering to Indian culture which changed the very face of religion, society.
@amriteighteen Dasam Granth gives historical accounts of Bhangani Yudh in which Dasmesh Pitta fought/espousing Bir Ras! Thats not to say Bir as is not Found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Rather Dasmesh Pitta kept His Battle Chapters out of Guru Granth Sahib Ji (which is a Spiritual Fountain)
Sprituality comes from Bhagati and not from intellet. Purspose of Intellect is also elimination of confusions so that Bhagti can be achived. But nowadays intellectuals are additing more confusion then removing them.
benti please understand that we all share different views. Some of Us read 5 Gurbani Prayers comprised from Both Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Dasam Granth Ji. Others do not! For a Khalsa Baptism 5 Banis are required! There is no Question.Your free to read as much bani or less as you Like. Just have Pyar
@amriteighteen well if you read 5 Banis (Gurbani) that Make a Khalsa Baptism then you automatically read 3 Banis wich come from Dasam Granth! Period! If You recite "Raj Karega Khalsa" and an ardas at the end of every Paath then u recite out of Dasam Granth Mate! No short cuts!
Indian Revolutionary Bhai Randhir Singh AKJ Founder had firm belief Dasam Granth was Our Guru Jis Bani! There is a debate between Tapoban AKJ v Jeonwala on Youtube where jeonwala was exposed for his mistranslations! AKJ have served the PAnth with dedication adorning Bana Weopons n Research
The Missionaries and Dal Khalsas have no Isht and are unable to Stand by Their convictions because Rehat is not something that we can cut and dictate! Its penned down by Our Gurus recorded in History for a Reason! Millions died for it in the past! Slowly DK MIss will expose their own Goals by trying to attack Khalsa Baptism
as sant Giani Jarnail Singh put it "If a child Born in the home of a pandit is left with Natures uncut hair, When that Child grows up everybody will say look at that Sardar"! another qoute was " out of Shatti Saow Crore Hindu devte hanging in calenders in the homes of hindus is there any without Uncutkes and tres Knot"
shasternaam mala in Dasam Granth tells us how to respect our Weopons that liberate us from tyrants! Khalsa Mehma Chapter Guru Gobind Singh praises the Khalsa that he bestwoed Amrit on! Bhangani Yudh references important historically! So How can we discard our heritage?
paaji those that believed in Dasam Granth defended the Isht of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Guru paid with their lives! Those that rake up Debates like Jeonwala Ragi Darshan Sarna Brothers (DSGPC) etc are all alive! EVen Surjan Thekedar DK ran to the UK
@Vasco1701 veer ji i really enjoyed this vichaar with u please email me on mygoaloflife@hotmail.com because there is so much to tell u ant this thing which i cant tell on youtube
where was Your Srimoni Khalsa Panchayat Dal Khalsa and Amritsar Akali Dal when Dharm Yudh Morcha Ensued? IT Was the Mahapurkhs like Bhindrawale and rampurkerawale who Believe in dasam Bani in RIpe old Ages of 80+ laid down their entire life savings n gave it their all in 1982. Ur dal Khalsa is bullshit
if someone who did this much big kurbani we should respect him from depth of our heart and we should folow their example in our daily life. by that i do not mean we should do everything they did e.g. Dasam granth in this matter we have to ASK OUR GURU ONLY AND ONLY GURU GRANTH SAHIB
there are so many good things in dasam granth BUT THERE ARE WORST THINGS TOO AND U CANNOT READ THOSE THINGS WITH UR FAMILY EVEN SO HOW CAN U THINK THAT WHOLE DASAM GRANTH IS DASAM PITA"S BANI
@TheKaraun Ok But those Shaheeds of the Guru Khalsa Panth believed in Dasam Bani! From Sant Jarnail Singh Sant Kartar Singh Surinder Singh Sodhi, Biddhi Chand dal, Right down to Akhand Kirtan Jatha India including its founder Bhai Randhir Singh!
@Vasco1701 but the thing i m saying is that the dasam granth says some thing else and guru granth sahib say somrthing else
for example : in guru granth sahib WAHEGURU IS NIRAAKAR{WITHOUT ANY FORMAND SELF PREVAIDING} BUT DASM GRANTH SAYS THAT GOD HAS LONG HAIRS , GOD CARRIES THE WEAPON , THERE ARE FLAMES COMING OUT OF GOD'S MOUTH AND SO ON.
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS GOD DOES NOT CARY WEAPON , HE IS BEYONG LIFE AND DEATH
SO IF OUR GURU DOES NOT AGREE WITH DASAM GRANTH WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW PEOPLE
@TheKaraun Ok paaji Dasam Granth is in Braj Basha we r punjabi! did you do research yourself of that particular verse thru santhia (correct proncunciation and translation) as to attain the correct meaning?
@Vasco1701 YEAH BRO I RESEARCHED IT AND EVEN I READ THE TRANLATION FROM THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN DASM GRANTH SUCH AS PYARA SINGH PADAM"S BOOK DASAM GRANTH DARPAN, I READ DR. JODH SINGHAND VARIOUS OTHER TAKSALIS
@TheKaraun paaji 3 banis out of a WHole 5 come out Dasam Granth That Constitute A Complete Amrit Sinchar! Dasam Granth lists our Panj Kakaars! Verses dedicated to Khalsa Mehma/Shastarnama Weopon Respect! A lot of our heritage is inside Dasam Granth too.
@Vasco1701 VEER JI AS I SAID BEFORE WE CAN RESPECT THOSE THINGS WHICH IS SUITABLE WITH OUR GURU GRANTH SAHIB BUT EVEN THAN ANY OF THE BANI WHICH IS NOT PART OF GURU GRANTH SAHIB IS NOT OUR GURU THERFORE WE GOT TO FOLLOW GURBANI AT OUR BEST OTHER THINGS ARE AFTER GURU GRANTH SAHIB
BECAUSE GURU GOBIND SINGH GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO GURU GRANTH SAHIB AND NOT TO ANY OTHER BOOK
VEER JI PLEASE EMAIL ME AT mygoaloflife@hotmail.com i want to continue this vichaar with u
@TheKaraun Paaji I have no prob debating with U! But I need you to clarify whether you believe in the Institute of Amrit Sinchar and the 5 banis that Constitute the Khalsa Baptism! do you?
@Vasco1701 So there is little or if any useful parts of the Dasam Granth. However with relation to the Dasam Granth and its 3 amrit bani's the following issues are raised with regards to two main parts:
@amriteighteen To even build a basic foundation of Dasam Granth You need to study Steek Volumes of Guru Granth Sahib Ji First! U are 3 to not believe in Dasam Granth others are free to believe it in a Democratic World!
Oh stop it please. I've taken santhiya of most of Guru Granth Sahib ji. I know what the message of Guru Granth Sahib ji is trying to convey. Yet Dasam Granth is trying to convey an opposite message.
@amriteighteen Kindly tell us what Guru Granth Sahib Ji conveys! Dasam Granth at the end of every chaptr reverts back to the name of God as the only thing.
@amriteighteen Enlighten Yourself and Do Some Research Mere Bhai! Countless Times Just Like Guru Granth Sahib Ji Dasam Granth centralises on the Naam of God.
It's funny how you guys don't touch that topics that contradict itself? Dasam Granth is a compilatioon of Guru Gobind Singh ji's bani and other is complete bull. How is it that the Granth is contradicting itself? How come when I gave you that quote, you don't have a answer for that, instead you just make it worse by finding a quote that is contradicting that part of Dasam Granth? Please tell me, that quote that I gave you that the world materialized for dirt in a king's ear means?
@amriteighteen 1) what contradiction? 2) U gave me 4 lines from the wrong page, when i researched Page 13 a Completely diff topic was discussed. Get your page number right and feel free to debate. 3) Simply find me the page number of what your talking about and U will get an explanation. Hows that?
@amriteighteen There are plenty of pages in Both Guru Granth Sahib ji And Dasam Granth Ji that Reduce Demigods to Zero and on other hand praise them with the Moral that Only the Name of God can Save us!
@amriteighteen My dear Brother I Think You have given the Wrong Page Number. On Dasam Granth Page 13 The Actual Bani Recited is ਅਖਲ ਧਰਮੰ ॥ ਅਲਖ ਕਰਮੰ ॥੭੫॥
अखल धरमं ॥ अलख करमं ॥७५॥
Thy Laws are Complete, Thy Words are beyond Comprehension.
There is no mention of Amrit anywhere in The Dasam Granth, majority of it was written before 1699, well before Amrit took place.
The Khalsa was created in 1699, most of the Dasam Granth was written 1696. There is nothing relating to the creation of Khalsa, the rules of Khalsa or amrit, or any Rehat provided in Dasam Granth. Majority of its contents are Hindu stories and half of the Dasam Granth are stories about lustful, sex driven women
@amriteighteen Dasam Granth lists 5 Kakaars of a Khalsa/Part of our daily Rehat comes from it comprising Jaap sahib Chaupai Swaiyeh, other Banis like Shabad HAzare inc Our Ardas and National Litany of Raj Kareg Khalsa. Without Dasam Granth a Sikhs Daily Rehat is not complete nor can Khalsa Baptism Take place
Please provide me a quote where is lists the 5 kakaars. The nitnem bani's you have mentioned are actually picked by us sikhs in the modern rehat maryada of in 1945. Of the 5 Bani’s three are from the Dasam Granth. However,, history does not agree with this. There is no mention of these 5 bani’s being read in ANY historical source and all sources in until the 19th century don’t even mention any Dasam Granth Bani’s being read.
@amriteighteen 1) U have doubt in your mind, therefore you need to satisfy our doubt thru Research of Dasam Granth. Sant ATtar Singh formulated the modern SRM. History has been written and rewritten! So what your trying to say is SIkhs shud not read our 5 Banis? There u Just exposed yourself!
@amriteighteen In addition DG gives praise in Khalsa Mehma to Guru Jis Khalsa. How to look after Weopons in ShasternamMala. And Important historical references to Battles Ie Bhangani Yudh!
@Vasco1701 There is nothing relating to the creation of Khalsa, the rules of Khalsa or amrit, or any Rehat provided in Dasam Granth. There is no mention of Amrit.
@amriteighteen Simple! If You do believe in Panj Banis as “Gurbani” then you Believe in 3 Banis coming out of Dasam Granth as “Gurbani" Period! Who are you to decide what is Gurbani and what is not?
@amriteighteen What is Amrit Sinchar Bro if 3 out of 5 Banis Used to prepare it are not “Gurbani”? You saying that half of our Ardas/Litany “Raj Karega Khalsa” is not Gurbani? The Guru Khalsa Panth believes These are Gurus Own and continue to recite them everyday with Conviction with or without your “personal belief”!
Yes, I do believe this Guru Gobind Singh ji's writings. He never chose to put his writings in Guru Granth Sahib ji, therefore, he doesn't want to give his writings that same status as the gurbani in Guru Granth Sahib ji.
Therefore, Guru Gobind Singh ji didn't even consider his own writings as "bani", so why should we? Who are we to contradict Guru Gobind Singh ji's decision?
@amriteighteen Obviously Guru Gobind Singh does not want his writings to be included in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Dasam Granth instead is a compilation of works designed at times to give Bir Ras/others for Historical references/ and instilling Shaant Ras.
@amriteighteen are you trying to tell every1 here that 3 out of banis used to prepare an Amrit Sinchar are not bani? then ur directly attacking the Instituition of Khalsa Baptism.
@amriteighteen There are Stories of Hindu demigods in Guru Granth Sahib Ji wats the big deal about Hindus? The names Allah and Adam also found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so what?Do you suffer from racism?
Please provide me the quote where "Adam" is found in Guru Granth Sahib ji. Oh brother, Guru Granth Sahib ji is compilation of hymns, not stories. You Dasam Granthis have already started to degrade Guru Granth Sahib ji, as this is your goal. Yes, there are mentions of these demigods, but they're used to provide a point.
@TheKaraun y dear brother do you believe in the existance of the 5 Kakaars? Dasam Granth contains heritage of what our 5 Kakaars are and how to look after weopons! Otherwise what use is a Kirpan rusting on the floor? The same concept that liberated us from Aurangzeb Moghul raj and Abdalis
@TheKaraun dasam granth from the 2 translations i read have served as an index to clarify what terminology is mentioned in Guru Granth sahib Ji and in fact bought me closer to Guru Granth Sahib Ji! I have no questions about Guru Granth Sahib being my Guru as it instructs us to Worship Naam Shabad as Guru
@TheKaraun Paaji people go 4m all over the world to visit Darbar Sahib! Can we honestly in our heart say that is not a pilgrimage! However that said Gurbani wants us to Jap Nam and visit Mecca of our heart (terminology)!
@TheKaraun we do rituals everyday getting up for work brushing teeth! Depends whether those rituals have meaning or EMptyness! If U jap Nam Your Kirpaan Kara have a dimension of their Own! If YOu dont do bandagi then wearing kara and kirpan U will not feel the Proximity of rehat! Idea is to Medidate with meaning
@amriteighteen when does a ritual not become an empty Ritual? when you Jap Nam and recite Bani and Thirst for God. Theres no use wearing a Kara and going Disco. There is Use in wearing a Kakaar and practicing Sikh Rehat building your Bond to Your Guru.
Since you have no reply to TheKaraun's reply of he says that how Dasam Granth describes "mahakaal". You just "you have not taken santhiya of that verse".
Brother, first of all. I'm not taking santhiya of a granth that Guru Gobind Singh ji put us toward. Second, so many of translation of that verse give the same description.
It's funny how Guru Granth Sahib ji says one thing, and Dasam Granth says one thing.
@amriteighteen Karaun has not replied to whether he believes in the 5 kakaars of the Khalsa and Karaun has not answered whether he even believes in Amrit Sinchar! Why is that????
amrioteighteen says "It's funny how Guru Granth Sahib ji says one thing, and Dasam Granth says one thing. "....Have you read Guru Granth sahib Ji Steek volumes? How much have you read Bhai?
@Vasco1701 NOW U WILL SAY THAT GOOD THINGS ARE TO BE FOLLOWED BUT WE CANNOT FOLLOW AND ADOPT WHAT OUR GURU GRANTH SAHIB IS TELLING AND FOLLOWING ANY OTHER BOOK SUCH AS DASAM GRANTH IS MOST STUPID ATTEMPT
NOTE : IT IS YET TO BE ESTABLISHED THAT DASAM GRANTH IS GURU KIRAT BUT IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED FACT THAT OUR GURU IS NONR OTHER THAN GURU GRANTH SAHIB
@TheKaraun Paaji DDT produced Lakhs amritdharis in India/Abroad! Akhand Kirtan Jatha did massive Seva and still ongoing in Tapoban countering Guru Sahibs Nindaks like Jeonwala Canada! I dont agree with everything Nihungs do but they given up a normal life to walk on Guru Jis Path too
@TheKaraun so when Jathebandis That Contribute to the Chardi Kala of the Guru Khalsa Panth Thru Seva SImran And Sacrifice all believe in Dasam Granth and have had debates on Dasam saying that questionable terminology is in fact a matter of interpretation of medieval vocabulary! How can i Disagree?
you Guys r so self centred in your Nafrat that U cannot even acknowledge what a bornHindu like Bhai Rama Singh had to Go thru Just 2 become a SIngh! His entire family cut him off! Bhai Rama Singh was unable to marry a SIkh because he was Born in the House of Pandits! R U any less Brahminvad In racism?
@Vasco1701 i m entirely with you my brother in this issue of sikhs hatred with hindus sikh should not follow those things of brahminwaad which are against gurmat
but we should love everyone whether he is a hindu , muslim or any other
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS
THERE IS ONE GOD AND WE ARE LIKE HIS CHILDREN
SO WE SHOULD TREAT OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS
@TheKaraun thts all good paaji but to Resonate 2 The Outside world first is our inside world Must b equipped with Khalsa Spirit! 1)Do You believe in the 5 Kakaars? 2) Do you believe in the Instituition of Khalsa Baptism with 5 banis that Complete an Amrit Sinchaar?
DDT AKJ Gupt Nihungs believe in Dasam Bani laid down lives for Guru Khalsa Panth! So who was a hindu? He Who gave his life or He WHo Lives off the name of Bhindrawale and Shaheeds? U guys need to decipher between Nafrat of Hindus and Your Unique Diverse Heritage That Singhs left a legacy of aftr Kurbani
Puran singh became a sikh from a hindu and opend pingalwara! AN Institute for those with Leprosy! he also Vehemently spoke out on 1984 Darbar Sahib Attack in Punjab India Itself! Where were dal khalsa Khalistani Manmohan singhs? Where was "Khalistan President in Exile" Gurmit Aulakh??
They Hu fear being Absorbed in Hindus need to C Mirror C Guru Sahibs Roop! Envisage History where Moghuls held Swords/Tyrrany over Singhs Head! Nihungs DDT Sevapanthis Recite 4m Dasam Granth never converted to Hinduism! rather Sikhs in Punjab cut their Kes! Hazur Sahib Sangat Still Keep Kes Adorn Bana
@amriteighteen I dont agree with everything Nihungs do! But the bare Fact is Nihung Singhs have historically fought and died for the Guru Khalsa Panth. DDT and AKJ were frontline in 1984 defending Darbar Sahib Both revere Dasam Granth and DDT even do Havans and fight and Die for Faith!Brahminvad? Or Shahidi?
@amriteighteen Its Funny How Ragi Darshan sang/recited Durga Hindu Diety Songs in 84,then attackd Panj Kakaars Panj Banis/Amrit That 3 Lakh Singhs died for! Its even More Funnier How Dal Khalsa Germany/UK and Aulakhs n Canada Based Khalistanis back same Ragi Darshans Stance on Insulting Amritdharis
@amriteighteen Shaheed Bhai AVtar Singh "Brahma" From Biddhi Chand Nihung Dal led Khadkus and fought for the Guru Khalsa Panth in its Dire Time! What did your Canada America Based Cowboy Khalistanis do? SHout and scream and go back to eating donuts and sipping Milkshakes
I've personally went to India two times in the 16 years I've been in this world. My family does not have enough money to come to India every 2 months. Also, I have school that I must attend.
I mean, us Canadians don't do Aarti in Canada. Instead, we have some nihangs come from India to put us toward Hinduism more.
amriteighteen I don’t do arti either! If you doubt the Khalsa rehat yourself then your automatically lapsing back into Hindu Fold! Canadians like valaiti lokh have a lot of jaat paat and then we whinge about hindus?lol
@amriteighteen Nihungs walk with Traditional Weopons Akali Bana with Uncut Kes in Blue Dumalleh daily in a Place like Maharashtra! do you Western Canadian Khalistanis do that daily? Its easy to use the word brahminvad. fact is DDT Nihungs AKJ contributd to their Faith where U Western Khalistanis sat on ur Backsides
Let me see what the nihang's faith is. Doing Aarti infront of Guru Granth Sahib ji and drinking bhang all day until their high.
Let's not talk about them contributing their faith, because they cannot even tell me who their guru is. Even if one of them did, they don't know how to follow and listen to the guru's teachings.
You may blaber talk about how they defended the faith, but if they can't even tell me who their guru is.
@amriteighteen If 10 Nihungs out of 200 sit there do “bhang all day until their high” does that mean every single one does? Doesnt Ragi Darshan Drink whisky shots? Does that mean His entire camp does? How stereotypical!
@amriteighteen i dont need to provide proof of anything when your defending somebody who has been ex communicated from Sikhism! If you want proof ask the Horse Himself
Second, he was falsely excommunicated because of the Akali Dal not wanting him to preach against Dasam Granth because this is what Parkash Singh Badal to know the truth, since he's a member of the RSS
Third, the jathedars who excommunicated him do not even know where the Akal Takhat is.
@amriteighteen 2)Define what “Truth” your talking about? Dasam Granth contains 3 banis out of 5 that make an Amrit Khalsa Sinchar take place/Our Litany “Raj karega Khalsa/part of our Daily Ardas/Shabad HAzare/How would Akali Dal or RSS benefit?
@amriteighteen 1)b~ Pulkian Fauz Expelled from Sikh Confedaracy for anti-Sikh practices, such as making alliances with the enemy (Afghans), betraying and attacking other Sikh misls.Phulkia Army, first led by Phul Singh . Expelled in at Amritsar - August 1765.
U guys are true sons of Guru Sahib
Punjabibahman 1 month ago
Nangs
khalistanforlife 4 months ago
Bullshit, these jatts have invaded Sikh kaum fucking worshipping bull shit devis n doing puja iv sang jarnail singh ji was here he'd kill all these pakhandis!
khalistanforlife 4 months ago
@khalistanforlife go to Hazoor sahib nd say the same thing then u see who is creating BullS*** nd keep ur comments with urself...!! nd u also need to change ur name from "Khalistanforlife" to "KhalistanNoLife"!!
khalsamartialart 3 months ago
@khalsamartialart u should ignore ppll like him.. brainwashed by non dal panth ppl like sgpc
Punjabibahman 1 month ago
@SIYAChod so u mean to say k Dasam di Baani tere-mere varge kise bande ne bnayi c te os da naam de dita Dasam di baani??? Nihang Singh v fake bande hunde hone aa fer according to u.. i think u r d real WAheGuru,, v should bow to u...!! ? hahaha
khalsamartialart 5 months ago
Aarti,pooja, is that allowed in Sikhism, aj kal har koyi baba sant baneya firda Usey hi tarah har koyi gatka khelan wala apne aap nu "guru ki laadli fauj" da sipahi banayi firda aa. Even oh sikhi ch poora hove ya na hove agar dasam Granth guru gobind Singh g da likheya( ya likhaya) Hoya aa naley ohni sikha nu dasam Granth mannan layi keha aa ta ohni Shri guru Granth sahib g vich eh kiyo daraj karwaya k "sub sikhan ko hukum hai guru maaneyo Granth".
SIYAChod 5 months ago
@SIYAChod i dnt understand k thonu samjh kyo nahi aa rahi... its really funny and childish things that u r talkin abt... if u r sayin all these things that surely means k u dnt Believe in Amrit that is prepared as per Guru Gobind Singh ji's aageya.. where is it written that v hav to be baptised and only by takin Amrit? y do v wear kakaars? y do v read 5 Baani da path.. fer ta tuci pehla eh Questions da ans labho Dasam Granth te behas ta baut baad ch kareyo aa ke!
khalsamartialart 5 months ago
@SIYAChod u r soo Giyani this can b seen from ur msgs! u dnt even kno k Guru Granth Sahib ch Guru Gobind Singh g di koi baani included nai aa ta obvious aa k ohna ne aapdi Dasam di baani ch eh likhea aa "Guru Maneo Granth" secondly tuc zyada padhe likhe o and baabe o then u stay that way., no need to make comments about something u don't even know!!
khalsamartialart 3 months ago
watch?v=aRW6eFJ32BY
TheSpiritualWisdom 6 months ago
''Sabh sikhan ko hukam hai Guru Manyo Granth'' - sanu guru granth sahib ji maharaj nu mananaa chidah then study about dasam granth sahib ji whats the point learning about dasam granth sahib if you dont no nothing about your guru.
'Bolan Satguru Sabath Samphakan'' if you want to talk to satguru ji you have to read the shabads of your guru.
Desikayonline 9 months ago
@Desikayonline ---everyone knows that and i never said anything against it bhai sahib g..!
but guru granth sahib g de nal nal shastar videya te shastar puja v hai eh v saanu bhulna nai chahida g... bas ehi msg aa eh video da. don't get into arguements neither we want to..g
khalsamartialart 9 months ago
@Desikayonline so u must not be doin 5 baniya da path? i mean 3 banis in our Nitnem are from Guru Gobind Singh g's Granths.. we r jus readin the same Granth g.. and Dasam Granth is also Granth of Sikhs not of Muslims!!?
khalsamartialart 5 months ago
@khalsamartialart hello, do you also read bani from sarbloh granth?
Punjabibahman 1 month ago
@Punjabibahman yea... that's the real Jungi Bani...!
khalsamartialart 1 month ago
@khalsamartialart Khalsa meri roop hai khas, khalsa meri jaan ki jaan... these guys akj, ddt sgpc all try to be khalsa.. bt they wont.. so are you nihang singhs?
Punjabibahman 1 month ago
@Punjabibahman Correct it!! Khalsa mero Roop hai khaas, Khalse mein hou'n karo'n niwaas" ... We are Sikhs,, Guru Gobind Singh ji's Sikh :) nd v aren't here for discriminating anybody!
khalsamartialart 1 month ago
soother ( essence ) - with dasam granth sahib there is no khalsa panth there will be no amrit sinchaar so what kinda sikhs can we be ?
Desikayonline 10 months ago
@Desikayonline wat exactly is ur question??
khalsamartialart 9 months ago
@khalsamartialart how can you reject dasam granth if with out it you cant take amrit ?
Desikayonline 9 months ago
@Desikayonline ---yea dats completely true but ppl don't understand it and we never put our videos to create such issues. still people thinking themselves to be at more high command than Guru Sahib say so... jus tryin our best to spread awareness
khalsamartialart 9 months ago
Maharaaj has told you to read your panj bhaniya including jaap sahib. if you don't believe in dasam granth you have no point being in sikhi. even bhani from Dasam Granth says : ''Bolan Satguru Sabath Sampakhan'' - if you want to talk to your satguru read the shabads of your guru. & Guru Gobind Singh Ji Has said who ever discards jaap sahib & does not read jaap sahib will never have my darshan. japji sahib is the soothar if Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj - Jaap Sahib is the soother of Dasam Granth
Desikayonline 10 months ago
Gosh! i dnt understand dat y ppl r fighting here?? Sikhs r very famous for quarrels amongst demselves nd dese comments are very gud xample of it... dose who dn't believe in Dasam Granth, hardly matters v r not conveying any such msg thru dis vid. if any1 wants to blieve dey can, if dey dn't want to bliv its dier wish. extremists can never face d reality...dey can jus argue.
khalsamartialart 1 year ago
the "enemy" if there is 1 is our own Narrow minded view to compare SIkhi in a Semetic Christianised way! It is not a religion! It is a Mystical Pathway of Eastern Wisdom that embraces the ENtire Cosmos! Built upon Nam Simran and Gurbani! Not just mere appearance and shouting "yes i am a SIkh thari pagh thats it".
Vasco1701 1 year ago
Irrespective of whether Gurbani Talks in the Context of Metaphor/Historical meanings the Bare Fact is we cannot entirely Escape Terminology of Hinduism Islam or even Christianity and Judaism! Sikhi is so Sacred that makes it Diff is not a Mere "religion". But a SPiritual Pathway That recognises God in All Mankind!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
each and every page of Guru Granth Sahib Ji was Narrated from Memory by Guru Gobind Singh Ji! Hence if any did not fit in with Dasmesh Pitta Jis Line of Thought it would not be there!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
Guru Gobind Singh Ji was magnanimous. His vision/creation (the Khalsa)/literary writing all have a common link that binds them together. He gave expression to doctrinal ideology of Gurmat through his writings and as an extension of this ideology started a war for the freedom and upliftment of society.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
How it saying that God made a mistake by making women, giving a doctrinal ideology of Gurmat? What gurmat is in that? What gurmat do we find when reading stories of Devis?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen ???What are you talking about???? what do u have against Devis and Devtas?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Guru Gobind Singh ji would never write such things.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen
Guru Sahib has written
"Patshahi Dasvi " above every Baani He created and still u dnt believe in any of Dasam ki Baanis?? and still u'd wld also b one of those who recite 5 Baanis in the morning as a part of Nitnem or u dn't do even that??
khalsamartialart 1 year ago
@khalsamartialart
That means nothing if the teachings in the granth are opposite of the message that Guru Granth Sahib ji is trying to convey. Second, the history behind this granth is very vague, I mean it took the Sodhak comittee 189 years after Guru Gobind Singh ji's demise to finalize this granth. How come it took so long? Guru Gobind Singh ji could never write such things that are in that granth. I do beleive that the nitnem bani's are of Guru Gobind Singh ji's writings.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@khalsamartialart
The teachings that fall with Guru Granth Sahib ji's teaching, I will accept as Guru Gobind Singh ji's teachings.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen kalijug pramaan naanak gur a(n)gadh amar kehaaeiou ||
In the Iron Age, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, You are known and accepted as Guru Nanak, Guru Angad and Guru Amar Das.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen ougrasain ko raaj abhai bhagatheh jan dheeou ||
You blessed Ugrasain with a kingdom, and You blessed Your humble devotees with fearlessness.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen dhuaapur kirasan muraar ka(n)s kirathaarathh keeou ||
In the Brass Age of Dwaapur Yuga, You were Krishna; You killed Mur the demon and saved Kans
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen thraethai thai maaniou raam raghuva(n)s kehaaeiou ||
In the Silver Age of Traytaa Yuga, You were called Raam of the Raghu dynasty.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen This Shabad is by Bhatt Kal in Svaiyay Mehl 5 on Pannaa 1390
sathajug thai maaniou shhaliou bal baavan bhaaeiou ||
In the Golden Age of Sat Yuga, You were pleased to deceive Baal the king, in the form of a dwarf.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen do you accept Page 1390 of Guru Granth Sahib Ji as Guru Gobind Singh Jis Teachings?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@khalsamartialart Did guru gobind singh ji asked you to recite the 5 banis? No its the decision of the panth which has been taken after various meetings of the profs and historians and its the sikh's decision to include these 5 banis in our daily routine. On the other hand for the arguments sake I have one question for you. Why is that we only read chuapai up to a particular point, does it mean the other things are not suitable for a Sikh to read in dasam granth.
aman113 1 year ago
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immortalpbi 1 year ago
Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji manifsted his goal for the well being of all humanity in the form of a religious war of righteousness which aimed at destroying the inhuman and cruel administrative system of times. Guru Gobind Singh Ji emerges as one of the greatest in the chronicles of mankind.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
Created with the aim of waging a war of righteousness the Dasam Granth is that unique and unforgettable offering to Indian culture which changed the very face of religion, society.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
GURUJI NEVER TOLD US TO WORSHIP AVTAARS , BUT GURUJI TELL US THIS FOR OUR KNOWLEGE AND TO LEARN HOW THE FIGHT IN WARS. SO WE GET BIR RAS.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Doesn't Guru Granth Sahib ji contain Bir Ras? Does this mean Guru Gobind Singh ji left Guru Granth Sahib ji incomplete?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Dasam Granth gives historical accounts of Bhangani Yudh in which Dasmesh Pitta fought/espousing Bir Ras! Thats not to say Bir as is not Found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Rather Dasmesh Pitta kept His Battle Chapters out of Guru Granth Sahib Ji (which is a Spiritual Fountain)
Vasco1701 1 year ago
Sprituality comes from Bhagati and not from intellet. Purspose of Intellect is also elimination of confusions so that Bhagti can be achived. But nowadays intellectuals are additing more confusion then removing them.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
benti please understand that we all share different views. Some of Us read 5 Gurbani Prayers comprised from Both Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Dasam Granth Ji. Others do not! For a Khalsa Baptism 5 Banis are required! There is no Question.Your free to read as much bani or less as you Like. Just have Pyar
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
I also read all my nitnem bani's. Who says that these bani's are not need for Khalsa Baptism in the modern rehat maryada?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen well if you read 5 Banis (Gurbani) that Make a Khalsa Baptism then you automatically read 3 Banis wich come from Dasam Granth! Period! If You recite "Raj Karega Khalsa" and an ardas at the end of every Paath then u recite out of Dasam Granth Mate! No short cuts!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
Indian Revolutionary Bhai Randhir Singh AKJ Founder had firm belief Dasam Granth was Our Guru Jis Bani! There is a debate between Tapoban AKJ v Jeonwala on Youtube where jeonwala was exposed for his mistranslations! AKJ have served the PAnth with dedication adorning Bana Weopons n Research
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
You fool, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELEIVES IN A BOOK FULL OF HINDU MYTHOLOGY.
LISTEN TO WHAT OUR GURU SAYS, AND IGNORE EVERYONE ELSE.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen What do you have against Hindus? If You cannot follow Sikhi thats your Weakness!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
The Missionaries and Dal Khalsas have no Isht and are unable to Stand by Their convictions because Rehat is not something that we can cut and dictate! Its penned down by Our Gurus recorded in History for a Reason! Millions died for it in the past! Slowly DK MIss will expose their own Goals by trying to attack Khalsa Baptism
Vasco1701 1 year ago
as sant Giani Jarnail Singh put it "If a child Born in the home of a pandit is left with Natures uncut hair, When that Child grows up everybody will say look at that Sardar"! another qoute was " out of Shatti Saow Crore Hindu devte hanging in calenders in the homes of hindus is there any without Uncutkes and tres Knot"
Vasco1701 1 year ago
shasternaam mala in Dasam Granth tells us how to respect our Weopons that liberate us from tyrants! Khalsa Mehma Chapter Guru Gobind Singh praises the Khalsa that he bestwoed Amrit on! Bhangani Yudh references important historically! So How can we discard our heritage?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Has Dasam Granth told us to treat shastars as our guru's by doing chaur over them? This is respect only the guru receives.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
paaji those that believed in Dasam Granth defended the Isht of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Guru paid with their lives! Those that rake up Debates like Jeonwala Ragi Darshan Sarna Brothers (DSGPC) etc are all alive! EVen Surjan Thekedar DK ran to the UK
Vasco1701 1 year ago
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@Vasco1701 veer ji i really enjoyed this vichaar with u please email me on mygoaloflife@hotmail.com because there is so much to tell u ant this thing which i cant tell on youtube
and i have so much to learn from u
TheKaraun 1 year ago
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Vasco1701 1 year ago
where was Your Srimoni Khalsa Panchayat Dal Khalsa and Amritsar Akali Dal when Dharm Yudh Morcha Ensued? IT Was the Mahapurkhs like Bhindrawale and rampurkerawale who Believe in dasam Bani in RIpe old Ages of 80+ laid down their entire life savings n gave it their all in 1982. Ur dal Khalsa is bullshit
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 veer ji
if someone who did this much big kurbani we should respect him from depth of our heart and we should folow their example in our daily life. by that i do not mean we should do everything they did e.g. Dasam granth in this matter we have to ASK OUR GURU ONLY AND ONLY GURU GRANTH SAHIB
there are so many good things in dasam granth BUT THERE ARE WORST THINGS TOO AND U CANNOT READ THOSE THINGS WITH UR FAMILY EVEN SO HOW CAN U THINK THAT WHOLE DASAM GRANTH IS DASAM PITA"S BANI
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Ok But those Shaheeds of the Guru Khalsa Panth believed in Dasam Bani! From Sant Jarnail Singh Sant Kartar Singh Surinder Singh Sodhi, Biddhi Chand dal, Right down to Akhand Kirtan Jatha India including its founder Bhai Randhir Singh!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 but the thing i m saying is that the dasam granth says some thing else and guru granth sahib say somrthing else
for example : in guru granth sahib WAHEGURU IS NIRAAKAR{WITHOUT ANY FORMAND SELF PREVAIDING} BUT DASM GRANTH SAYS THAT GOD HAS LONG HAIRS , GOD CARRIES THE WEAPON , THERE ARE FLAMES COMING OUT OF GOD'S MOUTH AND SO ON.
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS GOD DOES NOT CARY WEAPON , HE IS BEYONG LIFE AND DEATH
SO IF OUR GURU DOES NOT AGREE WITH DASAM GRANTH WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW PEOPLE
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Ok paaji Dasam Granth is in Braj Basha we r punjabi! did you do research yourself of that particular verse thru santhia (correct proncunciation and translation) as to attain the correct meaning?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 YEAH BRO I RESEARCHED IT AND EVEN I READ THE TRANLATION FROM THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN DASM GRANTH SUCH AS PYARA SINGH PADAM"S BOOK DASAM GRANTH DARPAN, I READ DR. JODH SINGHAND VARIOUS OTHER TAKSALIS
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 BROTHER DO U BELIEVE THAT GUR GRANTH SAHIB IS UR ONLY GURU???????????????
IF YES THEN WHY DO YOU NEED TO BELIEVE AND FOLLOW DASAM GRANTH???? GURU GRANTH SAHIB IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU???
PLEASE ANSWER ME BROTHER
WHY DOU NEED TO READ SUCH A BOOK WHICH DOES NOT AGREE WITH OUR GURU GRANTH SAHIB???
AS U CAN LISTEN IN THIS VIDEO IT SAYS THE ONE WHO READ THE DURGA PAATH ARE NEVER BORN AGAIN.....AND MANY THINGS ELSE.
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS WORSHIP AND PRAISE NONE OTHER THAN WAHEGURU
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun paaji 3 banis out of a WHole 5 come out Dasam Granth That Constitute A Complete Amrit Sinchar! Dasam Granth lists our Panj Kakaars! Verses dedicated to Khalsa Mehma/Shastarnama Weopon Respect! A lot of our heritage is inside Dasam Granth too.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 VEER JI AS I SAID BEFORE WE CAN RESPECT THOSE THINGS WHICH IS SUITABLE WITH OUR GURU GRANTH SAHIB BUT EVEN THAN ANY OF THE BANI WHICH IS NOT PART OF GURU GRANTH SAHIB IS NOT OUR GURU THERFORE WE GOT TO FOLLOW GURBANI AT OUR BEST OTHER THINGS ARE AFTER GURU GRANTH SAHIB
BECAUSE GURU GOBIND SINGH GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO GURU GRANTH SAHIB AND NOT TO ANY OTHER BOOK
VEER JI PLEASE EMAIL ME AT mygoaloflife@hotmail.com i want to continue this vichaar with u
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Paaji I have no prob debating with U! But I need you to clarify whether you believe in the Institute of Amrit Sinchar and the 5 banis that Constitute the Khalsa Baptism! do you?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Shabad hazare/our national anthem/Jaap Sahib Chaupai part of our daily ardas come from dasam Granth! Shud we drop half our rehat Now?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 So there is little or if any useful parts of the Dasam Granth. However with relation to the Dasam Granth and its 3 amrit bani's the following issues are raised with regards to two main parts:
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen To even build a basic foundation of Dasam Granth You need to study Steek Volumes of Guru Granth Sahib Ji First! U are 3 to not believe in Dasam Granth others are free to believe it in a Democratic World!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Oh stop it please. I've taken santhiya of most of Guru Granth Sahib ji. I know what the message of Guru Granth Sahib ji is trying to convey. Yet Dasam Granth is trying to convey an opposite message.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Kindly tell us what Guru Granth Sahib Ji conveys! Dasam Granth at the end of every chaptr reverts back to the name of God as the only thing.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
So you're saying that in the middle of the chapter, that Dasam Granth does not revert around the name of God?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Enlighten Yourself and Do Some Research Mere Bhai! Countless Times Just Like Guru Granth Sahib Ji Dasam Granth centralises on the Naam of God.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
ਏਕ ਸ੍ਰਵਣ ਤੇ ਮੈਲ ਨਿਕਾਰਾ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟਭ ਤਨ ਧਾਰਾ ॥
एक स्रवण ते मैल निकारा ॥ ता ते मधु कीटभ तन धारा ॥
Out of the secretion from one of his ears, Madhu and Kaitabh came into being.
ਦੁਤੀਯ ਕਾਨ ਤੇ ਮੈਲੁ ਨਿਕਾਰੀ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਭਈ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਇਹ ਸਾਰੀ ॥੧੩॥
दुतीय कान ते मैलु निकारी ॥ ता ते भई स्रिसटि इह सारी ॥१३॥
And from the secretion of the other ear, the whole world materialized.13.
So you're saying that this quote also relates to the Name of God?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen ਸਰਬੰ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੰ ॥ ਸਰਬੰ ਤ੍ਰਾਣੰ ॥
सरबं प्राणं ॥ सरबं त्राणं ॥
Thou art the Life of all, Thou art the Strength of all.
ਸਰਬੰ ਭੁਗਤਾ ॥ ਸਰਬੰ ਜੁਗਤਾ ॥੭੭॥
सरबं भुगता ॥ सरबं जुगता ॥७७॥
Thou art the Enjoyer of all, Thou art United with all
Vasco1701 1 year ago
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@amriteighteen ਸਰਬੰ ਦੇਵੰ ॥ ਸਰਬੰ ਭੇਵੰ ॥
सरबं देवं ॥ सरबं भेवं ॥
Thou art worshipped by all, Thou art a mystery for all.
ਸਰਬੰ ਕਾਲੇ ॥ ਸਰਬੰ ਪਾਲੇ ॥੭੮॥
सरबं काले ॥ सरबं पाले ॥७८॥
Thou art the Destroyer of all, Thou art the Sustainer of all.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
The whole world was created by taking out dirt from a king's ear? What does Guru Granth Sahib ji say to this?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen ਸਰਬੰ ਦਾਤਾ ॥ ਸਰਬੰ ਗਿਆਤਾ ॥
सरबं दाता ॥ सरबं गिआता ॥
Thou art the universal Donor, Thou art Omniscient.
ਸਰਬੰ ਭਾਨੇ ॥ ਸਰਬੰ ਮਾਨੇ ॥੭੬॥
सरबं भाने ॥ सरबं माने ॥७६॥
Thou art the Enlightener of all, Thou art the Enjoyer of all
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
It's funny how you guys don't touch that topics that contradict itself? Dasam Granth is a compilatioon of Guru Gobind Singh ji's bani and other is complete bull. How is it that the Granth is contradicting itself? How come when I gave you that quote, you don't have a answer for that, instead you just make it worse by finding a quote that is contradicting that part of Dasam Granth? Please tell me, that quote that I gave you that the world materialized for dirt in a king's ear means?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 1) what contradiction? 2) U gave me 4 lines from the wrong page, when i researched Page 13 a Completely diff topic was discussed. Get your page number right and feel free to debate. 3) Simply find me the page number of what your talking about and U will get an explanation. Hows that?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
What fool. That was the 13th line, I never even said "Page 13".
Go to page 114 by going to sridasamgranth(.)org and you will find it.
Please tell me the page number where I said I was a Khalstani.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen There are plenty of pages in Both Guru Granth Sahib ji And Dasam Granth Ji that Reduce Demigods to Zero and on other hand praise them with the Moral that Only the Name of God can Save us!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen ਰੂਆਲ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਤ੍ਵਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
रूआल छंद ॥ त्वप्रसादि ॥
ROOALL STANZA. BY THY GRACE
ਆਦਿ ਰੂਪ ਅਨਾਦਿ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਪੁਰਖ ਅਪਾਰ ॥
आदि रूप अनादि मूरति अजोनि पुरख अपार ॥
Thou art the Supreme Purush, an Eternal Entity in the beginning and free from birth.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
vayl na paa-ee-aa pandtee je hovai laykh puraan.
The Pandits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, even if it is written in the Puraanas.
vakhat na paa-i-o kaadee-aa je likhan laykh kuraan.
That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran.
thit vaar naa jogee jaanai rut maahu naa ko-ee.
The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen My dear Brother I Think You have given the Wrong Page Number. On Dasam Granth Page 13 The Actual Bani Recited is ਅਖਲ ਧਰਮੰ ॥ ਅਲਖ ਕਰਮੰ ॥੭੫॥
अखल धरमं ॥ अलख करमं ॥७५॥
Thy Laws are Complete, Thy Words are beyond Comprehension.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
jaa kartaa sirthee ka-o saajay aapay jaanai so-ee.
The Creator who created this creation-only He Himself knows.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
There is no mention of Amrit anywhere in The Dasam Granth, majority of it was written before 1699, well before Amrit took place.
The Khalsa was created in 1699, most of the Dasam Granth was written 1696. There is nothing relating to the creation of Khalsa, the rules of Khalsa or amrit, or any Rehat provided in Dasam Granth. Majority of its contents are Hindu stories and half of the Dasam Granth are stories about lustful, sex driven women
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Dasam Granth lists 5 Kakaars of a Khalsa/Part of our daily Rehat comes from it comprising Jaap sahib Chaupai Swaiyeh, other Banis like Shabad HAzare inc Our Ardas and National Litany of Raj Kareg Khalsa. Without Dasam Granth a Sikhs Daily Rehat is not complete nor can Khalsa Baptism Take place
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Please provide me a quote where is lists the 5 kakaars. The nitnem bani's you have mentioned are actually picked by us sikhs in the modern rehat maryada of in 1945. Of the 5 Bani’s three are from the Dasam Granth. However,, history does not agree with this. There is no mention of these 5 bani’s being read in ANY historical source and all sources in until the 19th century don’t even mention any Dasam Granth Bani’s being read.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 1) U have doubt in your mind, therefore you need to satisfy our doubt thru Research of Dasam Granth. Sant ATtar Singh formulated the modern SRM. History has been written and rewritten! So what your trying to say is SIkhs shud not read our 5 Banis? There u Just exposed yourself!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen In addition DG gives praise in Khalsa Mehma to Guru Jis Khalsa. How to look after Weopons in ShasternamMala. And Important historical references to Battles Ie Bhangani Yudh!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 There is nothing relating to the creation of Khalsa, the rules of Khalsa or amrit, or any Rehat provided in Dasam Granth. There is no mention of Amrit.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 1) U need to Research 2) You call Yourself "Amrit" do you believe in Amrit Sinchar? and the khalsa Institution?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Of course, who said I didn't?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Simple! If You do believe in Panj Banis as “Gurbani” then you Believe in 3 Banis coming out of Dasam Granth as “Gurbani" Period! Who are you to decide what is Gurbani and what is not?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
I personally believe that anything outside of Guru Granth Sahib ji is not gurbani.
I have not decided this, this is decided by Guru Granth Sahib ji.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen What is Amrit Sinchar Bro if 3 out of 5 Banis Used to prepare it are not “Gurbani”? You saying that half of our Ardas/Litany “Raj Karega Khalsa” is not Gurbani? The Guru Khalsa Panth believes These are Gurus Own and continue to recite them everyday with Conviction with or without your “personal belief”!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Yes, I do believe this Guru Gobind Singh ji's writings. He never chose to put his writings in Guru Granth Sahib ji, therefore, he doesn't want to give his writings that same status as the gurbani in Guru Granth Sahib ji.
Therefore, Guru Gobind Singh ji didn't even consider his own writings as "bani", so why should we? Who are we to contradict Guru Gobind Singh ji's decision?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Obviously Guru Gobind Singh does not want his writings to be included in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Dasam Granth instead is a compilation of works designed at times to give Bir Ras/others for Historical references/ and instilling Shaant Ras.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen are you trying to tell every1 here that 3 out of banis used to prepare an Amrit Sinchar are not bani? then ur directly attacking the Instituition of Khalsa Baptism.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Dasam Granth has 2000 odd pages can u list 1000 pages of wich talk about "Lustful sex driven women"? well???
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
You're telling me to write a whole granth on YouTube? You blaber on how much you've read Dasam Granth, I'm pretty sure you know those pages.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen All i did was ask you Bhai Sahib if you had read Steek Volumes of Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Thats all nothing more!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen There are Stories of Hindu demigods in Guru Granth Sahib Ji wats the big deal about Hindus? The names Allah and Adam also found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so what?Do you suffer from racism?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Please provide me the quote where "Adam" is found in Guru Granth Sahib ji. Oh brother, Guru Granth Sahib ji is compilation of hymns, not stories. You Dasam Granthis have already started to degrade Guru Granth Sahib ji, as this is your goal. Yes, there are mentions of these demigods, but they're used to provide a point.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen do a search on any Gurbani website and get your answer as to where Adam and Allah are found inside Guru Granth Sahib Ji!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
You're telling me to search? I have searched and found nothing on Adam. Please provide me the answer of where Adam is stated in Guru Granth Sahib ji.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen bwbw Awdm kau ikCu ndir idKweI ]
...Baabaa adam ko kishh nadhar dhikhaaee ||auin BI iBsiq GnyrI pweI ]2]
oun bhee bhisath ghanaeree paaee ||2||... This Shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Bhairao on Pannaa 1161
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun y dear brother do you believe in the existance of the 5 Kakaars? Dasam Granth contains heritage of what our 5 Kakaars are and how to look after weopons! Otherwise what use is a Kirpan rusting on the floor? The same concept that liberated us from Aurangzeb Moghul raj and Abdalis
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun dasam granth from the 2 translations i read have served as an index to clarify what terminology is mentioned in Guru Granth sahib Ji and in fact bought me closer to Guru Granth Sahib Ji! I have no questions about Guru Granth Sahib being my Guru as it instructs us to Worship Naam Shabad as Guru
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun paji before you read Dasam Granth did you read Steek Volumes of Guru Granth sahib ji!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
IN BACHITAR NATAK THE AUTOR SAYS MY FATHER DID SO MANY PILGRIMAGES (SUCH AS IT TALKS ABT TRIVAINI) TO GET A SON LIKE ME
AS U KNOW GURBANI IS STRICTLY AGAINST DOING RITUALS AND PILGRIMAGES
IF U SAY THE AUTHOR IS GURU GOBIND SINGH HOW CANU IMAGINE GURU TEG BHADUR SAHIB DOING PILGRIMAGES AND GOING AGAINST GURBANI
EVEN I READ IN THESE COMMENTS SOMEONE WROTE THAT GURU WORSHIP THE SHASTRAS
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS WORSHIP ONLY GOD NOT ANY IMAGES OR WEAPONS SO CAN GURU GO AGAINST GURBANI
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Paaji people go 4m all over the world to visit Darbar Sahib! Can we honestly in our heart say that is not a pilgrimage! However that said Gurbani wants us to Jap Nam and visit Mecca of our heart (terminology)!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun we do rituals everyday getting up for work brushing teeth! Depends whether those rituals have meaning or EMptyness! If U jap Nam Your Kirpaan Kara have a dimension of their Own! If YOu dont do bandagi then wearing kara and kirpan U will not feel the Proximity of rehat! Idea is to Medidate with meaning
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Brother, if you find brushing as a ritual, man I don't have anything to say to you.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen when does a ritual not become an empty Ritual? when you Jap Nam and recite Bani and Thirst for God. Theres no use wearing a Kara and going Disco. There is Use in wearing a Kakaar and practicing Sikh Rehat building your Bond to Your Guru.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Weopons are laid out in most Gurdwaras around the world in front of Guru Granth sahib Ji as we matta tekh and bow our heads to Gurbani.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
I agree, shastars have power. But they should not be given a status where they receive the same respect as our guru.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen In Most Gurdwaras around the World Weopons are placed right in front of Guru Ji where we Mattah Tekh period!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Where does it explicitly say do not worship weopons?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Since you have no reply to TheKaraun's reply of he says that how Dasam Granth describes "mahakaal". You just "you have not taken santhiya of that verse".
Brother, first of all. I'm not taking santhiya of a granth that Guru Gobind Singh ji put us toward. Second, so many of translation of that verse give the same description.
It's funny how Guru Granth Sahib ji says one thing, and Dasam Granth says one thing.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Karaun has not replied to whether he believes in the 5 kakaars of the Khalsa and Karaun has not answered whether he even believes in Amrit Sinchar! Why is that????
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Maybe because he does not have the time to be on the computer all day to argue with you.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
amrioteighteen says "It's funny how Guru Granth Sahib ji says one thing, and Dasam Granth says one thing. "....Have you read Guru Granth sahib Ji Steek volumes? How much have you read Bhai?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 NOW U WILL SAY THAT GOOD THINGS ARE TO BE FOLLOWED BUT WE CANNOT FOLLOW AND ADOPT WHAT OUR GURU GRANTH SAHIB IS TELLING AND FOLLOWING ANY OTHER BOOK SUCH AS DASAM GRANTH IS MOST STUPID ATTEMPT
NOTE : IT IS YET TO BE ESTABLISHED THAT DASAM GRANTH IS GURU KIRAT BUT IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED FACT THAT OUR GURU IS NONR OTHER THAN GURU GRANTH SAHIB
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun Paaji DDT produced Lakhs amritdharis in India/Abroad! Akhand Kirtan Jatha did massive Seva and still ongoing in Tapoban countering Guru Sahibs Nindaks like Jeonwala Canada! I dont agree with everything Nihungs do but they given up a normal life to walk on Guru Jis Path too
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@TheKaraun so when Jathebandis That Contribute to the Chardi Kala of the Guru Khalsa Panth Thru Seva SImran And Sacrifice all believe in Dasam Granth and have had debates on Dasam saying that questionable terminology is in fact a matter of interpretation of medieval vocabulary! How can i Disagree?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
you Guys r so self centred in your Nafrat that U cannot even acknowledge what a bornHindu like Bhai Rama Singh had to Go thru Just 2 become a SIngh! His entire family cut him off! Bhai Rama Singh was unable to marry a SIkh because he was Born in the House of Pandits! R U any less Brahminvad In racism?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701 i m entirely with you my brother in this issue of sikhs hatred with hindus sikh should not follow those things of brahminwaad which are against gurmat
but we should love everyone whether he is a hindu , muslim or any other
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS
THERE IS ONE GOD AND WE ARE LIKE HIS CHILDREN
SO WE SHOULD TREAT OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS
TheKaraun 1 year ago
@TheKaraun thts all good paaji but to Resonate 2 The Outside world first is our inside world Must b equipped with Khalsa Spirit! 1)Do You believe in the 5 Kakaars? 2) Do you believe in the Instituition of Khalsa Baptism with 5 banis that Complete an Amrit Sinchaar?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
DDT AKJ Gupt Nihungs believe in Dasam Bani laid down lives for Guru Khalsa Panth! So who was a hindu? He Who gave his life or He WHo Lives off the name of Bhindrawale and Shaheeds? U guys need to decipher between Nafrat of Hindus and Your Unique Diverse Heritage That Singhs left a legacy of aftr Kurbani
Vasco1701 1 year ago
Puran singh became a sikh from a hindu and opend pingalwara! AN Institute for those with Leprosy! he also Vehemently spoke out on 1984 Darbar Sahib Attack in Punjab India Itself! Where were dal khalsa Khalistani Manmohan singhs? Where was "Khalistan President in Exile" Gurmit Aulakh??
Vasco1701 1 year ago
They Hu fear being Absorbed in Hindus need to C Mirror C Guru Sahibs Roop! Envisage History where Moghuls held Swords/Tyrrany over Singhs Head! Nihungs DDT Sevapanthis Recite 4m Dasam Granth never converted to Hinduism! rather Sikhs in Punjab cut their Kes! Hazur Sahib Sangat Still Keep Kes Adorn Bana
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
It's funny how to this day, Nihangs still do brahmvad rituals at Hazoor Sahib.
By the way, there's no need for your long speech.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen I dont agree with everything Nihungs do! But the bare Fact is Nihung Singhs have historically fought and died for the Guru Khalsa Panth. DDT and AKJ were frontline in 1984 defending Darbar Sahib Both revere Dasam Granth and DDT even do Havans and fight and Die for Faith!Brahminvad? Or Shahidi?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Its Funny How Ragi Darshan sang/recited Durga Hindu Diety Songs in 84,then attackd Panj Kakaars Panj Banis/Amrit That 3 Lakh Singhs died for! Its even More Funnier How Dal Khalsa Germany/UK and Aulakhs n Canada Based Khalistanis back same Ragi Darshans Stance on Insulting Amritdharis
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Shaheed Bhai AVtar Singh "Brahma" From Biddhi Chand Nihung Dal led Khadkus and fought for the Guru Khalsa Panth in its Dire Time! What did your Canada America Based Cowboy Khalistanis do? SHout and scream and go back to eating donuts and sipping Milkshakes
Vasco1701 1 year ago
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Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen the real brahminvaad are your canada american khalistanis who scream a lot but dont have the balls to even go india!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
I've personally went to India two times in the 16 years I've been in this world. My family does not have enough money to come to India every 2 months. Also, I have school that I must attend.
I mean, us Canadians don't do Aarti in Canada. Instead, we have some nihangs come from India to put us toward Hinduism more.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen If you cannot go to India due to personal situation then thats Your life! No need to narrate your life story here!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
I have education here sir. When I have the time, I will come. I'm only a 16 year old, please bear with me.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
amriteighteen I don’t do arti either! If you doubt the Khalsa rehat yourself then your automatically lapsing back into Hindu Fold! Canadians like valaiti lokh have a lot of jaat paat and then we whinge about hindus?lol
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Let them be, who ever beleives in jaat paat, because they lack knowledge.
Nihangs have khalsa rehat? Don't make me laugh please.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen If you can laugh y not?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
We don't want to come to country where corruption takes place, bhang is given out, and a place where the sikhs can't tell who their guru is.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen name me a country where corruption does not take place!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Of course there is corruption in each country, but tell me something. How much corrpution is there in India compared to Canada?
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Corruption does not have National Borders! Politics is a dirty game!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Nihungs walk with Traditional Weopons Akali Bana with Uncut Kes in Blue Dumalleh daily in a Place like Maharashtra! do you Western Canadian Khalistanis do that daily? Its easy to use the word brahminvad. fact is DDT Nihungs AKJ contributd to their Faith where U Western Khalistanis sat on ur Backsides
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Let me see what the nihang's faith is. Doing Aarti infront of Guru Granth Sahib ji and drinking bhang all day until their high.
Let's not talk about them contributing their faith, because they cannot even tell me who their guru is. Even if one of them did, they don't know how to follow and listen to the guru's teachings.
You may blaber talk about how they defended the faith, but if they can't even tell me who their guru is.
I'm not a "khalistani". I am a sikh of the guru.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen If 10 Nihungs out of 200 sit there do “bhang all day until their high” does that mean every single one does? Doesnt Ragi Darshan Drink whisky shots? Does that mean His entire camp does? How stereotypical!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
Darshan Singh Khalsa do whiskey shots? Oh brother, please provide me with proof that he does.
Please proof to me that you statistics of 10 out of 200 nihangs sit and do bhang all day is right.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen i dont need to provide proof of anything when your defending somebody who has been ex communicated from Sikhism! If you want proof ask the Horse Himself
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
First, You cannot ex communicate some from Sikhi.
Second, he was falsely excommunicated because of the Akali Dal not wanting him to preach against Dasam Granth because this is what Parkash Singh Badal to know the truth, since he's a member of the RSS
Third, the jathedars who excommunicated him do not even know where the Akal Takhat is.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 2) 3)Have you met the Jathedars in Person?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@Vasco1701
No, what will that prove? Plenty of interviews on the internet.
amriteighteen 1 year ago
@amriteighteen Whatever proof you seek bhai please do Khoj on Naam Simran and Seva and you will have all the proof you need!
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 2)Define what “Truth” your talking about? Dasam Granth contains 3 banis out of 5 that make an Amrit Khalsa Sinchar take place/Our Litany “Raj karega Khalsa/part of our Daily Ardas/Shabad HAzare/How would Akali Dal or RSS benefit?
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 1)b~ Pulkian Fauz Expelled from Sikh Confedaracy for anti-Sikh practices, such as making alliances with the enemy (Afghans), betraying and attacking other Sikh misls.Phulkia Army, first led by Phul Singh . Expelled in at Amritsar - August 1765.
Vasco1701 1 year ago
@amriteighteen 1)a~)“Jassa Singh Ramgharia had been ex Communicated for killing his daughter” Page 111 Encylopedia Of Sikhism!
Vasco1701 1 year ago