Do people only feel secure not to be themselves but have to be part of this "white race" or "chinese race"? I thought in America they cherish the value of "individualism", but no, this collectivist group mentality still persisted in American's way of thinking, not very far from the underdeveloped, backward China.
Let just recognize the reality; racism is real and liberty is not. America should institutionalize racism and abolish liberalism, so we continue enjoy our fetish for white skin.
It is very true about the Chinese chinese vs american chinese. I was born in China and came to the USA with my family when I was 7 but even though I grew up in China and have a Chinese family, now that I am in college I don't fit in at all with any of the Chinese International students.
Well some people don't hav the choice to get back their roots. Especially if you were abandoned like me. Since most parents who adopt have a lot of money and are white you are usually raised in a community like that and you feel really different. No one really understands until you've been through it yourself.
Frank, I think you are too self conscious of your status. Adopted or not, you are always ethnic chinese.
If you want to know chinese culture, start leaning chinese. Hey, even some foriegners learn chinese. In addition to cultural identity, it is a practical languge to learn for business.
@ykltc I don't think you have any idea what it's like and you're probably a lao wai who hopes to one day become fluent in Chinese. Sorry, but Frank's right. He's not self conscious, he's speaking the truth. Unless you are a Chinese American, you really aren't qualified to be making judgments on it. and you'll never know how it feels.
i went to korea and exactly like "in a physical sense i fit in" but otherwise i don't. it was a weird experience :P fashion style and everything is completely different
It's not the Chinese-Chinese that reject the American Chinese, it's the American Chinese that rejected their chinese part. Cmon, dont tell me you dont feel embarrassed for your "chinese" part. Either that, it's the whole American culture that taught you to be American first. Im sorry to inform Asians will always be perceived as foreigners. Now if you really cared about your roots you should'vedone everything to not losing them away.
@ZaeViola "Now if you really cared about your roots you should've done everything to not losing them away."
Yeah, but the roots of Asian Americans (that is, Asians who are born in the US) are in America. Basically, you can look at the reverse to see how ridiculous your argument is: if a non-Asian was born in Asia, the non-Asian person must do everything not to lose their non-Asian roots.
That, and the fact that you think America culture is American-centric (Are Asian countries part 2
its funny people always call others coconuts,oreos or Twinkies no doubt someone said he talks like a white guy.i see lots of hispanics who get called coconuts for sounding white but in reality if you take anybody from america to their country of origin including whites they wouldnt fit in.if u take a black guy from the ghetto to africa he will stick out like a sore thumb same thing goes with whites.if u take a redneck who is originally of german ancestry he wont fit in in germany.
im adopted from china too! i was adopted at 6 months. but sometimes its really hard for me finding my identity, because i have white parents, but im obviously not white. i have very big eyes and so a lot of asians at my school think im only part asian. so its hard because i dont feel fully accepted by asians either. ):
Chinese projects a web of networks which means that he has background, he knows people (in power), or he has the ability to call 30 people to beat you up if you mess with him. However, He will be very friendly to you ( if you shows value or if you are a guest) rather than projecting threat or warning in the form of confidence. If you're gonna stay for good but have no value or a threat to him, you'll be polity distanced, or ignored. if you show hostility, you will be isolated.
thats a straight up uncle tom right there. sounds like he;s got some mental problems and should not really be trying to be the spokesmen for chinese people when he knows nothing about the culture.
im a 3rd gen Chinese American. Grandparents came when they were kids. Back then, the US emphasized assimilation, so they raised their family with US traditions. Thus my parents raised my brothers/me American. They didnt "fail." They DID pass on their culture. When kids teased me for not knowing "my culture and language," I would say "Im American. My race is just genetic." I have a strong sense of identity as a California girl, but I hate when people expect me to fit the stereotype. Its hard
i felt like ur being racist... u say when an adoptes chinese opens their mouth they sound stuped, but at the same time ur thinking that a white people who raise that child are stuped? srsly ur stuped for saying this, and think again, who were the greatest scientists? that right, they all were white!
@xxNightberryx You are a retard. You're saying this is racist yet you yourself is being racist. While they slaughtered each other in Europe in Asia they were making many advancements in technology and had their rennassaince 500 years prior to the European one.
@xxNightberryx He meant the accents, idiot. And not all "greatest scientists" were white, stop being racist. Even if they were, that doesn't mean you can take pride in that. I can understand if you were related to one of them, but if you aren't, and the only relation is based on "race" - then that's just plain pathetic.
Definitely have to agree with him on taking a trip back to Asia. Just walking down the streets and looking around at everyone else made me realize how different I was...not just physically too. I mean, my relatives took me to a zoo and asked me if I knew what an 'elephant' was or a 'zebra,' and just treated me like I was complete foreigner. It made me so uncomfortable and self-conscious. The younger generation (like my cousins) is somewhat better, they're fascinated but definitely not accepting.
why, areall the birds different, why are there different cows.........asian people are regarded as very inteligent race......work ethics are superior.........Im white I notice they get respect as a race and culture
As the mother of an adopted Chinese baby boy...who cares whether China Asians ever accept him because he has grown up in a white family. China rejected him in the first place because he has 2 facial scars! Many Asian Americans have stopped us and excitedly ask if he is Chinese and seemed genuinely interested in him. China's loss!
Ok, I remember this comment...why put the nice comment on this website and then put privately send me a very rude email and call me a bithch in the email. Have the guts to be open about whatever you want to say and just say it. Not that I care what you think, just man up and speak it out in the open.
I love how defensive white parents are getting even if the guy isn't saying anything about it being bad to adopt Chinese girls. Stop being so offended and LISTEN.
I'm chinese-american and even when i go back to china i don't really reel isolated....
i don't like china, because it's really crowded and the country seems to smell, but i don't feel alienated...
maybe it's because i go to a school with a lot of international students from asia, but i'm totally comfortable around asians and americans. idk maybe it's just me, but i don't really think that it's that bad or that like people are any different to me than other asians
"Chinese girls adopted by white families are not likely to be accepted by Chinese culture" Is this video telling everyone not to adopt from China. I did adopt my daugther from China; so what. I didnt abandon her on a bus when she was 3 days old. I didnt leave her to be raised in an orphanage. My family and I are blessed to have adopted my daugther and no one could ever say I did the wrong thing.
If your child was abandoned on a bus when she was 3 days old and raised in an orphanage, that is due a any number of reasons: her parents's poverty, the 1 child policy in China, discrimination against girls there etc. etc. So don't go pointing an accusing finger at her birth parents because you don't know anything about them. If you are a good person, just do good works and don't put your child's natural parents down. I hope your child will never read what you wrote about her birth parents.
You idiot, how can you judge a person until you have walked in her shoes, especially in the case of a mother leaving her child behind. She must be thinking about what happened to her baby all the time, her heart must be broken. That Pbrez22 is the most nasty piece of work I have ever came across. Luckily, most adoptive parents give thanks to the biological parents.
Yes, they are valid reasons. Who are you to say they didn't leave their baby behind in hopes that when he/she was found they would have a better life? They leave the children in public places for a reason.
If you think you didn't done any wrong thing, you shouldn't have bother to watch nor reply to this video. Go watch "An Adoptee on her Mom's Perspective" . Most of Adopted Children of different race, whether it's Indian or Korean would grow up having emotional and identity difficulties because most of time their parents tries to look away if the child turn out to be ugly or too different because i know MOST of Adopters adopts just because they think they want an asian kid that look on the TV.
Who cares if they are accepted by chinese people. The point is, you love your child, and she is accepted in American culture, and has a good life. I was adopted from Russia in 1991, and I shudder to think what my life would be like if I wasn't. I'd probably be homeless and poor, instead of with my family. This sort of thing makes me very angry.
Maybe it doesn't affect the parents love of the child, but it can affect the child. The kid looks asian. America is going to see a chinese person, China is going to see a foreigner. The kid will wonder, where do they fit?
@RadioEEBB many members of a diaspora have this conflict since before the term "diaspora" originated....ever wonder why Filipinos alienate their own community with the term "balik bayan"?
Well, I think you did the wrong thing. Why didn't you adopt from your own country? There's no shortage of American orphans. If you specifically wanted a Chinese child then MOVE TO CHINA and raise her there.
You've never experienced racism and will never be able to talk through it with her.
She won't grow up to be an American (thank God) as she will definitely feel excluded from a white soceity but you will not be able to educate her about Chinese heritage. Blood is always thicker than water.
There's no reason to get offended. The video isn't calling it wrong, and it isn't calling it right. It's just stating how things are psychologically from someone adopted interracialy. It's good for you to know these things, because your daughter will have to go thru them most likely, and you being empathetic and understanding as much as possible will make it easier on her.
Not to be rude but why do you have to make it sound like you did your daughter a favor by adopting her?
I don't get your point. What he said didn't say anything against adopting from China, and it's true, after we have been adopted by another culture we aren't going to be like our birth culture. That's what can be difficult.
Yeah. It's so odd to go back to your country for the first time in a long time. You feel at home and still out of place. For me, so many people had the same characteristics as I but I felt stupid. I couldn't speak the language, I didn't know the customs, I didn't even know the major holidays! I spoke, ate, sat and dressed differently. It's frustrating to feel like you have nowhere to belong but you have somewhere. And that is in the arms of who you love - your ethnicity or not.
i agree entirely... as a 2nd generation chinese girl, who does not speak chinese and is darker skinned... i have always felt this barrier that prevents other chinese people from really understanding and accepting me. 90% of the time when i meet a chinese person for the first time, they will comment on how "white" i am, how i don't look right or hold myself as an asian person would.
This guy is spot-on with so many things. A source of a lot of strife in social relations: "westerners" interpreting you as "foreign" when you're no such thing; whenever I've gone back to my roots or nearby in south-east Asia I've felt oddly at one with, but at the same moment utterly separate to the locals, whose interest will always be pervaded with awareness that we come from totally different material worlds.
I have long argued that culture is something that is lived from day to day. One cannot begin to understand culture until you live it, & classes in mandarin or Chinese dance or lessons on Chinese protocol and etiquette still do not come close to teaching/understanding what being mainland Chinese is.
it doesnt matter whats on the inside, people only see the outside, its a fact, we must all accept it
juki0h 1 month ago
We feel pretty segregated greatly... we don't pass the test.
Karp513 1 month ago
is it just me more does he sound like seth rogan
red3537 4 months ago
Do people only feel secure not to be themselves but have to be part of this "white race" or "chinese race"? I thought in America they cherish the value of "individualism", but no, this collectivist group mentality still persisted in American's way of thinking, not very far from the underdeveloped, backward China.
Let just recognize the reality; racism is real and liberty is not. America should institutionalize racism and abolish liberalism, so we continue enjoy our fetish for white skin.
IKNFLY666 4 months ago
It is very true about the Chinese chinese vs american chinese. I was born in China and came to the USA with my family when I was 7 but even though I grew up in China and have a Chinese family, now that I am in college I don't fit in at all with any of the Chinese International students.
TheCoolfez 5 months ago
Well some people don't hav the choice to get back their roots. Especially if you were abandoned like me. Since most parents who adopt have a lot of money and are white you are usually raised in a community like that and you feel really different. No one really understands until you've been through it yourself.
CollieNikkiCoco 8 months ago
its very interesting to see that many 100%chinese-Americans look physically different from original chinese .its becasue of the lanuage ?i dont know>
240kankan 11 months ago
This man has a very nice speaking voice.
xTheBOISx 1 year ago 4
Frank, I think you are too self conscious of your status. Adopted or not, you are always ethnic chinese.
If you want to know chinese culture, start leaning chinese. Hey, even some foriegners learn chinese. In addition to cultural identity, it is a practical languge to learn for business.
ykltc 1 year ago
@ykltc I don't think you have any idea what it's like and you're probably a lao wai who hopes to one day become fluent in Chinese. Sorry, but Frank's right. He's not self conscious, he's speaking the truth. Unless you are a Chinese American, you really aren't qualified to be making judgments on it. and you'll never know how it feels.
karenjiaxi 11 months ago
I think it is an honor to be Asian. We just need to ignore white and black people.
anythingnew 1 year ago
@anythingnew Good luck. Without the Africans migrating, your people and culture wouldn't exist.
JonniL0ve 1 year ago
i went to korea and exactly like "in a physical sense i fit in" but otherwise i don't. it was a weird experience :P fashion style and everything is completely different
Sennoko 1 year ago
It's not the Chinese-Chinese that reject the American Chinese, it's the American Chinese that rejected their chinese part. Cmon, dont tell me you dont feel embarrassed for your "chinese" part. Either that, it's the whole American culture that taught you to be American first. Im sorry to inform Asians will always be perceived as foreigners. Now if you really cared about your roots you should'vedone everything to not losing them away.
ZaeViola 1 year ago
@ZaeViola "Now if you really cared about your roots you should've done everything to not losing them away."
Yeah, but the roots of Asian Americans (that is, Asians who are born in the US) are in America. Basically, you can look at the reverse to see how ridiculous your argument is: if a non-Asian was born in Asia, the non-Asian person must do everything not to lose their non-Asian roots.
That, and the fact that you think America culture is American-centric (Are Asian countries part 2
Xwaxtaxper 1 year ago
I am struggling with this being an adopted Gautamalen.
SoveitBrave 1 year ago
its funny people always call others coconuts,oreos or Twinkies no doubt someone said he talks like a white guy.i see lots of hispanics who get called coconuts for sounding white but in reality if you take anybody from america to their country of origin including whites they wouldnt fit in.if u take a black guy from the ghetto to africa he will stick out like a sore thumb same thing goes with whites.if u take a redneck who is originally of german ancestry he wont fit in in germany.
thunderheart226 1 year ago 2
im adopted from china too! i was adopted at 6 months. but sometimes its really hard for me finding my identity, because i have white parents, but im obviously not white. i have very big eyes and so a lot of asians at my school think im only part asian. so its hard because i dont feel fully accepted by asians either. ):
Emmilita 1 year ago
he looks and sounds like a more mature, masculine, and possibly taller bobby lee
shylildude 1 year ago
Chinese projects a web of networks which means that he has background, he knows people (in power), or he has the ability to call 30 people to beat you up if you mess with him. However, He will be very friendly to you ( if you shows value or if you are a guest) rather than projecting threat or warning in the form of confidence. If you're gonna stay for good but have no value or a threat to him, you'll be polity distanced, or ignored. if you show hostility, you will be isolated.
danielairy 1 year ago
hmm I wonder how well black people are accepted in China.
SuddenCatharsis 1 year ago
thats a straight up uncle tom right there. sounds like he;s got some mental problems and should not really be trying to be the spokesmen for chinese people when he knows nothing about the culture.
89yy98gt89 1 year ago
It is one of the most "clear " and "clever" interview I ´ve ever seen.
Absolutely honest and deep-
Thanks
AD49938 1 year ago
im a 3rd gen Chinese American. Grandparents came when they were kids. Back then, the US emphasized assimilation, so they raised their family with US traditions. Thus my parents raised my brothers/me American. They didnt "fail." They DID pass on their culture. When kids teased me for not knowing "my culture and language," I would say "Im American. My race is just genetic." I have a strong sense of identity as a California girl, but I hate when people expect me to fit the stereotype. Its hard
snowballmouse 1 year ago
i felt like ur being racist... u say when an adoptes chinese opens their mouth they sound stuped, but at the same time ur thinking that a white people who raise that child are stuped? srsly ur stuped for saying this, and think again, who were the greatest scientists? that right, they all were white!
xxNightberryx 2 years ago
I think he meant speaking languages (English, Chinese, etc.) when he siad "opening one's mouth"...
justmine4me 1 year ago
@xxNightberryx You are a retard. You're saying this is racist yet you yourself is being racist. While they slaughtered each other in Europe in Asia they were making many advancements in technology and had their rennassaince 500 years prior to the European one.
sgtodeath 1 year ago
@xxNightberryx He meant the accents, idiot. And not all "greatest scientists" were white, stop being racist. Even if they were, that doesn't mean you can take pride in that. I can understand if you were related to one of them, but if you aren't, and the only relation is based on "race" - then that's just plain pathetic.
Graymoths 1 year ago
Definitely have to agree with him on taking a trip back to Asia. Just walking down the streets and looking around at everyone else made me realize how different I was...not just physically too. I mean, my relatives took me to a zoo and asked me if I knew what an 'elephant' was or a 'zebra,' and just treated me like I was complete foreigner. It made me so uncomfortable and self-conscious. The younger generation (like my cousins) is somewhat better, they're fascinated but definitely not accepting.
fapgif 2 years ago
he is right. and it dose not only happen in chain but in all part of the world. people can tell right away that u are out of place.
hodalis 2 years ago 3
He obviously has no idea what he's talking about, being a banana that he is.
telecake 2 years ago
Sucks for you...
but please don't speak for every Chinese or Chinese American.
Many Chinese I KNOW are not anything like you described. Maybe it has to do with the people you meet.
cantonboi 2 years ago
@cantonboi Damn right!
dun4ukwitmebiach 1 year ago
why, areall the birds different, why are there different cows.........asian people are regarded as very inteligent race......work ethics are superior.........Im white I notice they get respect as a race and culture
krglongbourn 2 years ago 2
As the mother of an adopted Chinese baby boy...who cares whether China Asians ever accept him because he has grown up in a white family. China rejected him in the first place because he has 2 facial scars! Many Asian Americans have stopped us and excitedly ask if he is Chinese and seemed genuinely interested in him. China's loss!
campruby 2 years ago
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cabbagemintor 2 years ago
Ok, I remember this comment...why put the nice comment on this website and then put privately send me a very rude email and call me a bithch in the email. Have the guts to be open about whatever you want to say and just say it. Not that I care what you think, just man up and speak it out in the open.
campruby 2 years ago
I feel a very deep sense of inconsolable sorrow for your son.
madde23 2 years ago
this guy is seeing clearly
i agree with him ....entirely
CoNiLa2 2 years ago 8
I love how defensive white parents are getting even if the guy isn't saying anything about it being bad to adopt Chinese girls. Stop being so offended and LISTEN.
rubyseeds 2 years ago 23
my mom was born in taiwan but when she goes back she gets culture shock..
TomLennox24 2 years ago
It's the Chinese Seth Rogan!
bluemamie 3 years ago
hahahah! he totally sounds like him!
becwashere123 2 years ago
I'm chinese-american and even when i go back to china i don't really reel isolated....
i don't like china, because it's really crowded and the country seems to smell, but i don't feel alienated...
maybe it's because i go to a school with a lot of international students from asia, but i'm totally comfortable around asians and americans. idk maybe it's just me, but i don't really think that it's that bad or that like people are any different to me than other asians
sherunswithvampires 3 years ago
"Chinese girls adopted by white families are not likely to be accepted by Chinese culture" Is this video telling everyone not to adopt from China. I did adopt my daugther from China; so what. I didnt abandon her on a bus when she was 3 days old. I didnt leave her to be raised in an orphanage. My family and I are blessed to have adopted my daugther and no one could ever say I did the wrong thing.
pbrez22 3 years ago
If your child was abandoned on a bus when she was 3 days old and raised in an orphanage, that is due a any number of reasons: her parents's poverty, the 1 child policy in China, discrimination against girls there etc. etc. So don't go pointing an accusing finger at her birth parents because you don't know anything about them. If you are a good person, just do good works and don't put your child's natural parents down. I hope your child will never read what you wrote about her birth parents.
cabbagemintor 3 years ago 3
None of those are valid reasons to leave a child behind and leaving a child behind.
Noliving 3 years ago
You idiot, how can you judge a person until you have walked in her shoes, especially in the case of a mother leaving her child behind. She must be thinking about what happened to her baby all the time, her heart must be broken. That Pbrez22 is the most nasty piece of work I have ever came across. Luckily, most adoptive parents give thanks to the biological parents.
cabbagemintor 3 years ago 3
None of which are valid reasons to leave a child behind on a bus all by themselves at the age of 3 days.
Noliving 3 years ago
Yes, they are valid reasons. Who are you to say they didn't leave their baby behind in hopes that when he/she was found they would have a better life? They leave the children in public places for a reason.
aliciaftw 3 years ago 4
If you think you didn't done any wrong thing, you shouldn't have bother to watch nor reply to this video. Go watch "An Adoptee on her Mom's Perspective" . Most of Adopted Children of different race, whether it's Indian or Korean would grow up having emotional and identity difficulties because most of time their parents tries to look away if the child turn out to be ugly or too different because i know MOST of Adopters adopts just because they think they want an asian kid that look on the TV.
EterLightwave 3 years ago 4
Who cares if they are accepted by chinese people. The point is, you love your child, and she is accepted in American culture, and has a good life. I was adopted from Russia in 1991, and I shudder to think what my life would be like if I wasn't. I'd probably be homeless and poor, instead of with my family. This sort of thing makes me very angry.
termansan 3 years ago
Maybe it doesn't affect the parents love of the child, but it can affect the child. The kid looks asian. America is going to see a chinese person, China is going to see a foreigner. The kid will wonder, where do they fit?
RadioEEBB 2 years ago 36
@RadioEEBB many members of a diaspora have this conflict since before the term "diaspora" originated....ever wonder why Filipinos alienate their own community with the term "balik bayan"?
looker768 1 year ago
Well, I think you did the wrong thing. Why didn't you adopt from your own country? There's no shortage of American orphans. If you specifically wanted a Chinese child then MOVE TO CHINA and raise her there.
You've never experienced racism and will never be able to talk through it with her.
She won't grow up to be an American (thank God) as she will definitely feel excluded from a white soceity but you will not be able to educate her about Chinese heritage. Blood is always thicker than water.
The249 3 years ago
There is nothing wrong with adopting a child from a different country and then raising it in your own country.
Noliving 3 years ago
There's no reason to get offended. The video isn't calling it wrong, and it isn't calling it right. It's just stating how things are psychologically from someone adopted interracialy. It's good for you to know these things, because your daughter will have to go thru them most likely, and you being empathetic and understanding as much as possible will make it easier on her.
Not to be rude but why do you have to make it sound like you did your daughter a favor by adopting her?
aliciaftw 3 years ago 3
I don't get your point. What he said didn't say anything against adopting from China, and it's true, after we have been adopted by another culture we aren't going to be like our birth culture. That's what can be difficult.
RadioEEBB 2 years ago 2
Yeah. It's so odd to go back to your country for the first time in a long time. You feel at home and still out of place. For me, so many people had the same characteristics as I but I felt stupid. I couldn't speak the language, I didn't know the customs, I didn't even know the major holidays! I spoke, ate, sat and dressed differently. It's frustrating to feel like you have nowhere to belong but you have somewhere. And that is in the arms of who you love - your ethnicity or not.
JCLYM 3 years ago 5
Get over it and thank god your white parents were kind enough to take you to a first world nation.
scata99 3 years ago
i agree entirely... as a 2nd generation chinese girl, who does not speak chinese and is darker skinned... i have always felt this barrier that prevents other chinese people from really understanding and accepting me. 90% of the time when i meet a chinese person for the first time, they will comment on how "white" i am, how i don't look right or hold myself as an asian person would.
mizcat106 3 years ago
i kinda had the same problem
im not accepted in america because i have brown skin, like the indians and u know what they did to them!
and im not accepted in the old coutry because i wasnt born their.
danielkabuto 3 years ago 3
I think this in an attitude common to any asian children adopted into a white family unfortunately.
mac26 3 years ago 2
This guy is spot-on with so many things. A source of a lot of strife in social relations: "westerners" interpreting you as "foreign" when you're no such thing; whenever I've gone back to my roots or nearby in south-east Asia I've felt oddly at one with, but at the same moment utterly separate to the locals, whose interest will always be pervaded with awareness that we come from totally different material worlds.
ATPADPenergy 3 years ago 3
this is interesting material
Ordbrukaren 4 years ago 2
interesting
luemas2007 4 years ago
I have long argued that culture is something that is lived from day to day. One cannot begin to understand culture until you live it, & classes in mandarin or Chinese dance or lessons on Chinese protocol and etiquette still do not come close to teaching/understanding what being mainland Chinese is.
quanyin04 4 years ago 5
agreed, and understanding and studying it isn't the same as being it.
RadioEEBB 2 years ago
Very enlinghting. Thanks!
jazzblowin 4 years ago