Gov. Kaine on Judge Sotomayor

[SIGScienceISGod]

Im not going to hate her for things shes done or said in the past. Thats sort of Conservative-standard : Dont give the evil socialist liberal the chance.

[nzpete1234]

The liberal standard seems to be to ignore all things from the past that might give us insight into who she is. Just accept her at her word because she is a left wing latina. It is not a hatefull thing to repeat her own words back to her and to ask her to explain herself. If is not hatred to ask her why she belonged to a group and adovcates the supremacy of one race over the others.

Thats common sense. Something not often found on the left I must admit.

[SIGScienceISGod]

The classic Conservative defense-

"The past represents the future."

[nzpete1234]

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[SIGScienceISGod]

Learn from History, yes.

Completely and Ignorantly Assume from History, no.

[nzpete1234]

Assume what????? These are her actions and words!!! If you didn't just automaticaly believe what you are told you might see that.

[nzpete1234]

You do know these are life time appointments right? there is no "give her a chance" then fire her if need be. Once this racist is in, she is in for life.

[SIGScienceISGod]

She already has clearly explained her quote, taken out of context by your conservative friends, that she didnt mean it as thought.

[nzpete1234]

So you don't think the statement that a latina woman is more wise that a while male, repeated 6 time over years, doesn't indicate a pattern of racism? That along with high ranking membership in a hispanic supremist organisation (LA RAZA) and a history of ruling against white males because of her politicaly correct views are not clues to her racism?? If a white male had this same pattern, the left would be calling for him to be disbarred!!!

[SIGScienceISGod]

First, Politically correct and humanist/leftist social views do not mean favoritism to the oppressed, it means equal rights for all.

Second, Her quotes about that were misquoted, she could have easily have been talking about a subject of a latin community situation, where easily a latina person, especially a usually family oriented woman would understand better.

[nzpete1234]

1st point, if that were true then they would have never denied promotions to white fire fighters simply because no black fire fighters passed the test.

2nd, If you read the whole quote, its actualy worse. She said 6 times in public forumns that latina women have better judgement that white males. So is she sexist? racist? or both. I leave that up to you.

[SIGScienceISGod]

Just dont assume from her actions, which yes might have been bad, that she is a 100% nazi-ish racist.

[nzpete1234]

So you are going to ignore the patterns of actions of decades because of what she says in what is essentualy a job interview???

[tainoaz]

Repignicans and Con-servatives LOVE abortion because they would have nothing to run on if it was not Guns, Jails, Bible and USA, USA, USA!!!

Why are they against Sex Ed, Condoms, Empowerment?

We need to evolve and join the rest of the Civilized World. It is PATHETIC that Cuba Wipes Our Clock on Healthcare with a GNP that is a Fraction of a Fraction of ours. THE TIME IS NOW!

[nzpete1234]

It doesn't. Moores lie fest called SICKO actualy showed cubas finest hospital avaliable only to the elite.

[tainoaz]

That is ABSOLUTELY not TRUE. Stop getting your news from Fox News.

Besides if it were not for OUR idiotic EMBARGO they would be just fine left to their own ways.

FACT is CUBA exports DOCTORS of excellent quality to the Third World as ambassadors.

AND they do all that in SPITE of our PETTY Economic Terrorism aimed at forcing them into submission.

[nzpete1234]

I got my information from cubans. The ones who survive the stalinist dicatorship there.

Way to support human rights crimminals.

[tainoaz]

The Veterans Hospital is GREAT I am NOT treated like shit. I am 47 years old and I have a primary physician that knows me, a pharmacist that has all my information right there (I am not bouncing all over the place), they encourage me to be responsible about my health, I have a dietitian that coached me on diet, they give me condoms on demand (make sense?) you better freaking believe it. This is about Executives/Middle Men making Gazillions at; Insurance, Pharmas, etc. TIME IS NOW!!!

[nzpete1234]

Yeah because those evil corps produce nothing of value. Except of course a large portion of the usa's jobs. Who needs those??

[tainoaz]

I have no problem with CORPORATIONS and CAPITALISM. I have a HUGE resentment at people that BELIEVE that 2% mainly (90%) REPUGNICAN/CON-SERVATIVES give a SHIT about Middle America. SInce 1970 the income of Corporate Executives has SKYROCKETED 1000% while Pensions, Medical Benefits, Incomes of everybody else has PLUMMETED. FACTS, FACTS, FACTS.

BUT hey we have the DOLLAR STORE full of plastic crap made in CHINA!!! Yay!

[nzpete1234]

oh stop lying. Try getting your information outside of the radical hate filled leftist web sites.

[SIGScienceISGod]

Sotomayor has great values and ideals on American future.

[nzpete1234]

If you consider racism and membership in a racist group an american value.

[SIGScienceISGod]

She isnt racist. Thats merely a huge understanding of her quote and conservative twisting of the truth to keep her out of office.

[nzpete1234]

Bullshit, she is a latino supremist. She belongs to a group called "the race" or la raza. She denied promotions based on race. She considers wise latinas better than wise white men.

She is a racist.

[SIGScienceISGod]

Yes, he decision on the promotions thing was horrible.

But, he quotes, like i said, were misunderstood.

[nzpete1234]

Not they weren't, they were quite clear. She repeated them 6 times over the years. You you consider a "wise latina" better than a "wise white man"???

She said that 6 times. And belonged to a group that if it were based on white people, would be considered neo-nazi.

[SIGScienceISGod]

So she made a few wrong choices and maybe a wrong quote.

Her ideas are still good, we shouldnt just judge her 100% on her past.

[nzpete1234]

Her ideals are clearly experessed in her past. Would you be this quick to excuse membership in a nazi party?