i watched my first gp in 1985 and feel so fortunate to have seen those years. But circa `80-`84 was something else.......F1 today sadly does not have this mystique. It's sterile. Don't get me wrong I still love it.......but those were the days.............i wish descrasheris could have pinched this one lol
Lightning at Monaco,. drivers who didn't want to finish, drivers running out of fuel, sore ankles, potential disqualifications, oil on the track, (look at flags being waved), goodness me,..... aren't the races of today so dull in comparison?!
@londongamer You talk as if every race back then was exactly like this. They weren't. Most of them were interesting, but only a handful were classics, just like it is now. This race was the exception, not the rule.
@bourlivak88 Patrese said he rolled his Brabham down the hill and did a bump start...but watch the video and you can see he comes to a complete stop after stalling...I've always believed Patrese got a push-start and, therefore, should have been disqualified
@hugodrax71 indeed he got a push from marshalls, rolled downhill and bump-started his engine, maybe technically it was not considered a push-start, so he got away with it. anyway, his car was standing in a dangerous position so marshalls had to push it somewhere.
10 cars appeared in the final classement, but only 5 cars (Patrese, Mansell, de Angelis, Henton and Surer) saw the chequered flag. Pironi (2nd), de Cesaris (3rd), Daly (6th), Prost (7th) and Alboreto (10th) stopped with less than 8 laps to go.
i think this is the craziest F1 race of the last 30 years. nowadays there might be races with a mountain of fake overtakes (DRS), sometimes serveral drive throughs, but such a chaos is unique. Even a car without rear wing (Derek Daly) was able to win that race.
@dks11000 slight correction: all cars in these times always had a rear wing. You are probably referring to Derek Daly's Williams FW08, but he had lost his rear wing in this race. The Lotus 80 in the 1979 season tried to run without a rear wing during pre-season-testing, but a rear wing was added quickly after.
@thylegion Ground effect + wings IS better. Ground-effect has a catch: Bumps or other small alterations in ride-height allow "dirty" air to leak into the low-pressure area underneath the car, so it's hard to keep its downforce consistent. That's why they still used wings to compensate.
Cars that didn't use fixed wings (like the 1979 Arrows A2) proved to be a bit unstable while cornering.
I love how Murray completely doesn't register that Pironi is driving at snail pace, infact neither register Pironi lost a position at all, as far as you know by listening, Pironi is still in the lead LOL
Downforce isn't really so vital at Monaco, compared to other tracks, as the speeds are much lower (except around the tunnel area), and in the wet, it would be even slower.
I remember seeing this race live ... it was so exciting at the end. The other interesting thing here is the points totals in the championship - the leader having only 18pts after 6 rounds. That's an extraordinarily low figure at that stage. I think Rosberg only won 1 race that year in winning the title.
@davedavid86 Is that because of ground effect? 'Cause I can't quite see a Formula One car racing with half a front wing and deprived of its rear wing!
@VWatch07 Yes most of the downforce was generated by the car body, the wings were primarily for balance purposes.
Daly's car probably handled like a total pig at that point, but with the damage not easily repairable and with him on for some points, it looks like they just left him out, remember safety standards were much lower than they are today....
Yeah, Speedhunters brought me here to! Awesome eventful race that one was, but it just goes to show how much those cars were lacking compared to today's cars. Mechanical grip, aerodinamic grip, tires, good torque delivery, you name it. ..
A few laps before the video began Daly slid off at Tabac and lost his rear wing in the impact, but was still able to keep going afterwards, it's actually a bad mistake from Murray and James that they never seem to notice it.
long time ago, but i remember!
bfwd222 1 month ago
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The Williams looks like a Beachbuggy...
divrotequalto0 1 month ago
I was oddly disappointed that Patrese's car didn't blow up on the final straight or something.
allamericandude15 1 month ago
i watched my first gp in 1985 and feel so fortunate to have seen those years. But circa `80-`84 was something else.......F1 today sadly does not have this mystique. It's sterile. Don't get me wrong I still love it.......but those were the days.............i wish descrasheris could have pinched this one lol
michael88863 1 month ago
Lightning at Monaco,. drivers who didn't want to finish, drivers running out of fuel, sore ankles, potential disqualifications, oil on the track, (look at flags being waved), goodness me,..... aren't the races of today so dull in comparison?!
londongamer 2 months ago 2
@londongamer You talk as if every race back then was exactly like this. They weren't. Most of them were interesting, but only a handful were classics, just like it is now. This race was the exception, not the rule.
UltimateWheelman 1 month ago
この年の モナコは大波乱でした。
パトレーゼ→ヘアピンでスピン
ピローニ→ガス欠
チェザリス→ガス欠
スピンから戦列に復帰したパトレーぜは、自分が優勝したのを知らなかった！
奇しくも 1977年ここでデビューしました。
yktmh100921 2 months ago
awesome footage, how the hell do you get this from 1982 onto youtube with this good quality :) id love to know
tompwh 2 months ago
At 0:31 is coming a Williams without the rear wing :O
reading70 2 months ago
I'd love to know how Patrese got going again.....
hugodrax71 2 months ago
@hugodrax71 well the exit of the hairpin is downhill so I guess he just rolled down the track and the engine got started..
bourlivak88 2 months ago
@bourlivak88 Patrese said he rolled his Brabham down the hill and did a bump start...but watch the video and you can see he comes to a complete stop after stalling...I've always believed Patrese got a push-start and, therefore, should have been disqualified
hugodrax71 2 months ago
@hugodrax71 well, that´s quite possible..
bourlivak88 2 months ago
@hugodrax71 indeed he got a push from marshalls, rolled downhill and bump-started his engine, maybe technically it was not considered a push-start, so he got away with it. anyway, his car was standing in a dangerous position so marshalls had to push it somewhere.
eezyoo 2 months ago
one of the best races ever......
dragmile 2 months ago
10 cars appeared in the final classement, but only 5 cars (Patrese, Mansell, de Angelis, Henton and Surer) saw the chequered flag. Pironi (2nd), de Cesaris (3rd), Daly (6th), Prost (7th) and Alboreto (10th) stopped with less than 8 laps to go.
TheColinChapman 2 months ago
5:35 I love how Murray Walker says: "the winner"
fuNkyblablablubb 2 months ago
i think this is the craziest F1 race of the last 30 years. nowadays there might be races with a mountain of fake overtakes (DRS), sometimes serveral drive throughs, but such a chaos is unique. Even a car without rear wing (Derek Daly) was able to win that race.
sargatanas88 2 months ago
Geez, Murray Walker isn't concerned at all with putting the kibosh on these guys huh? Said each guy is/was going to win the race.
bpisports 2 months ago
It was the spirit of Gilles affecting the race from beyond, only he had the right to win it.
hristoitchov 3 months ago
what race!
Jumpy434 3 months ago
some of those cars don't even have rear wings.... no rear wing in today F1 = dead
dks11000 3 months ago
@dks11000 They did have rear wings. Derek Daly just knocked his one off :p
SmeurkeDeKat 3 months ago 2
@dks11000 slight correction: all cars in these times always had a rear wing. You are probably referring to Derek Daly's Williams FW08, but he had lost his rear wing in this race. The Lotus 80 in the 1979 season tried to run without a rear wing during pre-season-testing, but a rear wing was added quickly after.
TheColinChapman 3 months ago
Numero uno!
Murray rules!
ronnycnc 4 months ago
@ooUooUoo well... no :P
thylegion 4 months ago
@thylegion Ground effect + wings IS better. Ground-effect has a catch: Bumps or other small alterations in ride-height allow "dirty" air to leak into the low-pressure area underneath the car, so it's hard to keep its downforce consistent. That's why they still used wings to compensate.
Cars that didn't use fixed wings (like the 1979 Arrows A2) proved to be a bit unstable while cornering.
SmeurkeDeKat 3 months ago
@ooUooUoo have you ever heard about ground effect? Google it out.
thylegion 4 months ago
I love how Murray completely doesn't register that Pironi is driving at snail pace, infact neither register Pironi lost a position at all, as far as you know by listening, Pironi is still in the lead LOL
jackobcooper 4 months ago
Downforce isn't really so vital at Monaco, compared to other tracks, as the speeds are much lower (except around the tunnel area), and in the wet, it would be even slower.
I remember seeing this race live ... it was so exciting at the end. The other interesting thing here is the points totals in the championship - the leader having only 18pts after 6 rounds. That's an extraordinarily low figure at that stage. I think Rosberg only won 1 race that year in winning the title.
Cambridgegraham 4 months ago
Never say die...
THEORIGINALEXSCAPER 5 months ago
lol, yellow flags, do not exist :)
Austria4ever1000 5 months ago
Only three of the top six placeholders actually finished the race!
Too bad F1 doesn't have exciting unpredictability like this lately.
tech9803 6 months ago
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IdeFan 5 months ago
Was Daly actually racing without a rear wing? Looked like an oversized Formula Ford car there!
davedavid86 7 months ago
@davedavid86 Is that because of ground effect? 'Cause I can't quite see a Formula One car racing with half a front wing and deprived of its rear wing!
VWatch07 6 months ago
@VWatch07 Yes most of the downforce was generated by the car body, the wings were primarily for balance purposes.
Daly's car probably handled like a total pig at that point, but with the damage not easily repairable and with him on for some points, it looks like they just left him out, remember safety standards were much lower than they are today....
IdeFan 5 months ago
Man, I miss those days... and a proud owner of an F1-derived Honda.
apexdna 9 months ago
Yeah, Speedhunters brought me here to! Awesome eventful race that one was, but it just goes to show how much those cars were lacking compared to today's cars. Mechanical grip, aerodinamic grip, tires, good torque delivery, you name it. ..
ChrisKsan 9 months ago
F1 cars looked alot cooler back then. lol
-Speedhunters brought me here!
CJAEY 9 months ago 40
@CJAEY Eeewwww hell no, those cars were ugly compared to the F1 cars of the past 10 years.
UltimateWheelman 1 month ago
@UltimateWheelman
Everyone has opinions. I personally think this era of F1 was unique
CJAEY 1 month ago
@CJAEY I agree...this was a golden era in the sport
hugodrax71 2 weeks ago
Spoiler got broken, he would not have started like that
Pablo34643 9 months ago
@friskycurtain
Nah he was second, only Prost Patrese and Pironi actually led.
LB1973 10 months ago
I don't understand, thw Williams car without spoiler??
EpsonNakajima 1 year ago
@EpsonNakajima
A few laps before the video began Daly slid off at Tabac and lost his rear wing in the impact, but was still able to keep going afterwards, it's actually a bad mistake from Murray and James that they never seem to notice it.
karl100589 7 months ago
easily the most dramatic monaco g.p. ever.
penske13 1 year ago
What the hell? Daly is racing without his rear wing! Well he doesn't have much of his front wing :p
jbmass06 1 year ago
@jbmass06 Some are racing without front wings as well.
dalejrgamer 1 year ago
If only F1 was more like this instead of what it is today.
combatking20 1 year ago 25
@combatking20 different cars, rules, safety and so on, but ye I would give my soul to go back to those days.
devxc 9 months ago
@combatking20 Amen to that
berlinmitte10117 3 months ago