Demonstration at Yasukuni Shrine on August 15, 2010 - Japanese WWII Surrender Day

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信教の自由を解体しようとする奴は信教の自由を無視するのかね？

それとも共産主義者なのかな？

靖国神社参拝は個人の自由のはずだが、個人の自由を批判する人は­自由主義も否定するの？

[pakurangaguy]

Get over it, little japs...Japan has defeated and US military stepping foots on your soil! Their men shall never being punished by Japanese law even if they raped japanese ladies

[skykid]

@pakurangaguy Wicked people like you are just as bad as any war criminal. You should be shot.

[6spdtls]

it's so sad.....japanese government is still allowing right wing party. this should be abolished at the time of surrender in 1945.

[zqdz123]

大日本帝国万岁！

靖国神社万岁！

日本解放亚洲，二战无罪。



[geridionarus]

i hope they didnt fight in the end of the day the anti war movmend would have lost.^^

1the Tenno ist put on the lvl o a war criminal by them , kyoto ist the center of the Tenno Believers so they would be butcherd.^^

2The police taht protect them have the seal of the Tenno what makes them the Imperial Guard of the National Police Agency if i am not mistaking so they are Tennoists

3.the WW Iiw as bad and all but this Tenno had nothing to do with it.

3reasons i hope it went peacfully.

[benitofinito]

They celebrate surrendering? I would be with the right-wingers on this one thanks.

[carbon748]

PUNKS JUMPS UP TO GET BEAT DOWN!!!!!!!

[lachter786]

why is this a war criminal　shrine? This shrine is for all Japanese soldier who died in al wars after 1876! Like the Russo-Japanese war, WWI and WWII!

[skykid]

Imperial Europe and America created Imperial Japan. The cost was not national identities but the blood of hapless citizens and soldiers who wanted nothing more than to defend their home country with pride.

[RoninDave]

@skykid How were they defending their home country in China ?

[nicck]

@RoninDave It's half true. Western bigotry basically alienated Japan in the international community (especially concerning their navy). They weren't seen as an equal nation and this gave rise to the militarist groups in Japan.

[makokun9]

@skykid That is a very naive and laughable interpretation of what really took place back then. Your stupidity is above and beyond everything, and it saddens me as much as it makes me laugh.

[skykid]

@makokun9 If you think the Bakumatsu was anything but the people of Japan resisting the imperial influence of Western powers, then you're the naive one... Granted, they were always looking for ways to gain access to more resources, but it was the West that forced them to modernize at gunpoint, using only what their little Island could provide, the stakes being their ports, their land, their identities. Much like in Germany, this created a few ambitious men who led Japan down the path of evil.

[Entei2000]

Right Wing is shame of Japan! Come on wake up! Are you guys real Japanese! where is the true Japanese Identity?

[SirHungryHippo]

imperial japan = nazis of asia

[sgfhk321]

0:26

The Emperor is not proud of you. Lose those extra meat, fatso.

[mannie71170]

that RISING SUN Flag should`nt be use again by the JAPS..they're just reminding their ASIAN neighbor for what their ancestor did in WW2... The German Never use a Swastika again after WW2..

[RoninDave]

@mannie71170 the rising sun predates WWII whereas the Nazi Swastika was designed specifically for the Nazi party

[endricks346]

@RoninDave Even though the rising sun predates WWII, it is symbolic of Japan's nationalism and crimes committed against their Asian neighbors. Also, the Nazi Swastika wasn't specifically designed for the Nazi party. The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used in the East for over 3000 years. The Nazis subverted the swastika, which comes from Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," and "asti" meaning "to be". The Nazis tainted it. Do some research before you run your mouth next time.

[RoninDave]

@endricks346 run my mouth? What pray tell are you babbling about? The Nazi Swastika FYI is not the traditional swastika. Anyone who knows anything about Buddhism can tell you that though Native Americans also used the swastika. The Nazi Swastika is its own unique form which represents the Nazis and nothing else. The rising sun predates WWII-era Japan & does not represent only that time period. There is a difference so next time why don't YOU do some research before You run your mouth next time?

[douglaspotterpress]

@mannie71170

Using the term 'Jap' highlights your retarded ignorance. It's like a white person calling an black American a 'nigger.' Grow up.

[mannie71170]

@douglaspotterpress what do you care??????call them selves what ever they want.... I will call them Japs...

[douglaspotterpress]

@mannie71170

Yeah, yeah righto pal.

[wnskl]

Yaskuni prays for the war criminals and they long for the revival of Japanese Imperialism. They are worse than Nazi.

[kurye1004]

Ttol ahyi~~ son of a bitch. fuck you Yaskuni, go to hell...

is it possible you japanese killed a korean empress and destroy a korea kimdom. and you said to korean only to bow to your son of a bitch japanese empire?

go to hell, I am really happy japan to sink under the see. please! Come tsunami and get Japan.

[RoninDave]

@kurye1004 that happened a long time before you were born, little child. You need to grow and not wish disaster on other people who had nothing to do with those atrocities.

[ppeng001]

@kurye1004 I agree. This generation of Japanese had nothing to do with the atrocities their ancestors did to the Chinese. We need to promote peace not hate. Hate leads to more hate, which is not the answer...

[dksuh]

class a war criminals

worse than the nazis because the japs actually don't even know what they did wrong.

idiot and repulsive

[mehdan2]

Japanese nationalists vs liberal Canadian at YAsukuni

watch?v=ML7fGFvyFMw

[xxwzaebd]

Right wing is not tolerated in Western countries. Leftists have a much strobger stand in Western societies sice they have much better jobs-most knowledge workers who earn mcuh more that\n their right-wing counterparts have liberal and progressive political views. I like neither the Japanese flag nor the rainbow flag.

[xxwzaebd]

Yaskuni is nothing else than a stinking one-holer toilet. yes, war criminals are worshipped there.

[halim181276]

This is a war-criminal shrine.

[robbiewangyang]

@halim181276 A class war criminal

[jun05858]

There is a correction from the Japanese. ×rightwingers →　○rightwingers and Conservative ×独島(Dokdo) → ○竹島(Takeshima) 竹島は日本の領土 ”Takeshima is Japanese territory” 「독도는 일본 영토」 This is common sense in the world. If it is really a territory in my country, the propaganda "Territory of the home country" is not done. It is an answer. It doesn't take notice because the Japanese is not interested in too natural. And, the territorial issue doesn't relate anything to this case.

[RoninDave]

@jun05858 "Takeshima is Japanese territory” 「독도는 일본 영토」 This is common sense in the world."

Actually outside of Japan and Korea the rest of the world doesn't give a shit about that pile of rocks

[jun05858]

That's right.

It is a sense that others are settling without permission in its garden though it doesn't permit for the Japanese.

It doesn't worry because the direct harm is not received to life.

For instance, it will not worry about you whoever is in the garden of neighbors' houses.

However, it is the same as calling by the name of not landlord's name but others who are settling without permission affirming that the name "dokdo" is used, and it does the invasion.

Please understand .

[shinminp]

@RoninDave wtf??? are you fking seriously think that dokdo is your territory? wow... i hope japan gets another 3 or 4 "9 degree earthquake"!!! f you japs

[RoninDave]

@shinminp moron, I said Dokdo is a pile of rocks between Japan and Korea and that the rest of the world doesn't care who it belongs to. You're a piece of shit to wish that anyone should get another earthquake over a stupid shitty little island.

[rkddlftkak]

@jun05858 You wish it was Japanese... stop fabricating history dumbass. Japanese rightwingers like you make the whole country look bad.

[onigoroshi442]

@rkddlftkak Why should Japanese have to be told not to fabricate history by Koreans? Koreans should get a grip of reality, and stop Koreating history.

[rkddlftkak]

@onigoroshi442 Because they are fabricating the history to claim Korean island as if it was theirs for centuries.

[onigoroshi442]

@rkddlftkak and so Korean chose to control the island with violence. how nice.

[rkddlftkak]

@onigoroshi442 Hah! You call protecting their own land call a violence? All they did was set up a watch tower to protect the island. No violence reported so far other than giving warnings to Japanese navy who are trying to come near the island time to time.

[onigoroshi442]

@rkddlftkak You obviously know nothing. Japanese are dying due to Korean violence in Takeshima. Good luck Koreating history as always. More you Koreate history, more we hate Koreans.

[daidouji]

Question.. is that DATE MASAMUNE?!?!

[c00lb0y10]

what's up with the grosteque flag of the guy?

[daidouji]

Question, are is the right-wingers the majority in Japan? Can you give me a percentage (vs other groups like left-wing) and how their views affect the citizens and in politics?

[RoninDave]

@daidouji the rightwingers for the most part represent a loud minority that most people ignore but they have some influence on politics as can be seen with Yasukuni Shrines visits by politicians, whaling issues, and the Dokdo island dispute with Korea

[daidouji]

@RoninDave Dokdo Oh I see.. Thanks for your response once again. This is very interesting...

[mehdan2]

@RoninDave

If they have some influence in politics that it may be correctly assumed that they are not actually a minority but the mouthpiece of a "latent“ but considerable following.

That many apparently docile and moderate Japanese may share many views with these right wingers and conservatives. After all, don't forget that the conservative LDP ruled Japan for over 50 years...

Japan needs a fundamental shake-up and social change like USA's civil rights movement in 50's-60's.

[YoshimitsuNamu]

@daidouji the shrine doesnt honor "criminals" that is a common misconception you get from foreigners or korean. it honors those that fought in that era even the korean helpers of the imperial armies.

[daidouji]

@YoshimitsuNamu Thanks. Yes -- I didn't mean any offense - just quoting him in the video I think ^^; They are Samurai war heroes as I see it in Sengoku Basara (anime/game by Capcom).

[daidouji]

What's going on... in this video. According to your description, there seems to be a shrine put in place to honor the "war criminals" in WWII. It upsets some countries/govt visits as you said. But Japan's Right-Wing wants to honor their deaths and also they sing a song and hold the WWII War Flag. Then there is the peace/anti-war and they go to disrupt what the right-wingers are doing every year? The police surround them because the Right-WIngers will most likely "make for them." Right?

[RoninDave]

@daidouji It's a bit complicated. Yasukuni Shrine itself predates WWII by about 70 years and the enshrining of the war criminals by 100. Yasukuni did not become controversial until 1978 when the class A war criminals were enshrined. The reason for their enshrinement has more to do with Buddhist-Shinto spiritualism rather than politics become it has become political with foreign groups protesting and the rightwingers counter-protesting

[daidouji]

@RoninDave Oh... Thanks for providing a very detailed response! So before the war criminals ever passed away, the right-wingers erected a statue? What is supposed to happened when a shrine is built (I don't know much about Buddhist-Shinto spiritualism but I did play Age of Empires 3: Asian Dynasties as Japan (and in that game, you build shrines to age up). Oh... I see.. it seems the Right-Wingers are a pretty large group? Do they know martial arts? If a fight ever broke-out... what would hap

[Lobos222]

@RoninDave

I get the impression that the A class "spirits" where allowed because they where Japanese. In the sense that it outweigh their crimes because they where not against other J people. Similar to how the shrine museum try to portray how Japan was a "victim" of wwii. If they had experimented on J criminals or similar I dont think they would have gained access. Its what I can deduct from their polarized culture and history.

Its ironic how the Emperor signed for U731,but did not like this.

[jun05858]

@tigerjonn Because the story of the Pearl Harbor seems to come out, it teaches. Please retrieve it by "FRUS.FRUS193141v02.p0199&q1=G­rew%20711.94 ".

Evidence that the United States knew the Pearl Harbor attack comes out from the official document in your country.

[jun05858]

@tigerjonn What were Europe and America powers doing to Africa Asia in the age of imperialism, and you should study how much pressure my country was putting on Japan again.

Did Japan murder it like Nazis Germany?Was the person, that is, tens of 10000 people indiscriminately killed like the United States?

Because it is a victorious country though is a splendid war crime, it is not judged.

It was judged one-sidedly by the law after the fact because Japan had been defeated. It is only it.

[malevolenceXXXensues]

a pride flag with the word peace on it? my goodness that's so ironic of a leftist

[hysterics1988]

It is not accurate to define each sides as nationalist and anti-war group. Both sides are agaist war. In Japan, left and right is not always defined by their attitude toward the war.

[jun05858]

The friend whom only has to be met today only has to be going to meet a favorite person tomorrow.

However, soldiers can meet only in "Yasukuni".

Japan is a special country.

All military forces and consideration were deprived by the defeat.

Forget neither presuming there nor to organize China, South Korea, and North Korea where it tries to trap the nation.

Everyone craves for peace.

It is Yasukuni for that.

[jun05858]

I want to ask the American.

What do you think, "Dismantle the graveyard" in Arlington Cemetery where it soldiers by the fight for the country if it demonstrates?

The Japanese is said, "Let's meet in Yasukuni" and has scattered in the previous war. It fought you against United States by one's best putting the fate of the country.

The bereaved family in the United States and Japan appears in the same play in the fight of ioutou every year, and mournfully.

[tigerjonn]

@jun05858 What if Germany said, lets make a SHRINE for NAZI HITLER? Imperial Japan of ww2, is ASIAs NAZI GERMANY. You cant compare AMERICANS, who DEFENDED , to JAPAN WHO ATTACKED. Japanese people are comparing Japan solders(WAR CRIMINALS) TO AMERICAN solders ( WAR HEROS). If you dont see the difference, your completely STUPID. AMERICAN SOLDERS STOPPED JAPAN's INVASION. JAPAN ATTACK COUNTRIES, WANTING TO STEAL LAND/MONEY/RESOURCES. JAPAN was EVIL, AMERICA WAS GOOD. see the difference?

[goldghoti]

fascinating video, thanks for posting. Just shows there are nutters everywhere! I wonder how happy the nationalists would be if you put them on a 2000 mile forced march with no food or water, beat them if they couldn't go on and then made them build a railway at the end, with a little live bayonet practice in the middle?

[HonestGamer1]

Interesting.

[TheJapanChannelDcom]

Dude!

Did you have a few beers with the nationalists after it was over?

:-D

[Shadowdancer21b]

I pray for peace. One day...long after I'm dead...

[Shadowdancer21b]

@Shadowdancer21b That is, to say, that we will have peace long after I'm dead. If we can have it in my life time; BONUS.

[maruksoo]

Thank you for this video.

Quite interesting, how in Japan is still arguing and and fighting about their past. Fortunately, especially from a german point of view, I am glad that there are only a few strong nationalists.

By the way: the german media reportet very positive on the fact that no minister went to the Yasukuni jinja.

[Gimmeaflakeman]

Thanks for posting, Dave.

[ruedho]

haha brilliant how you end up with the right wingers at the end!

[0Matiasu]

Who is the puppet at 2:00 supposed to be?

[hirotakajun]

The anti Yasukuni people = the Anti USA and pro China people.

In Japan, peace movement have been funded by Russia or China.

[raulecruset3]

@hirotakajun

wow, well pro China is the last thing they should want, unlike the USA, the Chinese government doesn't give a damn about human lives.

I'd wish people would get more along in the future..

[Jimaera]

Lmao @ your "festival" comments, Dave. I guess with those right-wing clowns there, it really does become a festival in some ways....

[Dragongurl89]

I support peace all the way but the Che flag has got to go. 

[RoninDave]

@Dragongurl89 yeah I thought it kind funny but also a bit lame. I always chuckle seeing hippies running around with Che-shirts thinking somehow they are fighting the system simply because of it

[Dragongurl89]

@RoninDave that what bothers me. My family are Cuban exiles living up in Miami and if someone yells Long Live Che or Fidel in our household, that would be consider an insult to our abuelos and so on. I find it interesting that Japan still view that day as an anniversary of surrender. It must be so awkward for foreigners to walk by and seeing all this commotion.

[BushidoDevildog]

@Dragongurl89 Agreed. Commies never were, and never will be cool...

[rtwfreak]

I saw some of those right wing dudes in one of their vans once near the Russian embassy in Tokyo, shouting lot's of "patriotic" stuff....lot's of police was there to.

And to think this will happen every year for a long time....sigh, when do they learn?

[Theytoldmetodoit1]

Great Video. Thankfully, like in most countries, the right wing movement tends to be the minority.

Protesting for peace is enough to upset most right wing groups but flying a rainbow flag, well, that's just going too far.....LOL.

Thanks for posting.

[RoninDave]

@Theytoldmetodoit1 I just love the coincidence that as the right winger at about 2:20 is struggling with the police, the peace flag hoves into view

[gamp0001]

why the @#$% does the "peace" movement have so many people flying banners or wearing t-shirts with that murderous barbarian, Che Guevara on it? How does this happen?

[ozzy78]

nice vid. thanks for the background history too!