I worked with Guard units in Iraq. Some were as good as Active units, where as some were clearly not interested in being activated for war assignment and yes some units did in fact leave contractors without weapons in harms way. Some military units especially Guard, were not pleased that Contractors were getting paid well, while they themselves were in Iraq as guardsmen. They never expected to be at war, but national weekend warriors. hence the problem.
Preston's video shows that the army vehicle ahead of him keeps on going! They are nowhere in a position to protect him, which was their stated mission -- CONVOY PROTECTION. This smug NG genital makes me sick. His men left these truck drivers hangin' out to dry.
Bull fucken shit!!! I saw the video, those poor truckers didnt stand a chance. Preston's video stayed rollin even after smoke cleared, you can clearly see down the street, "no military personal". Not only did they bug out and leave him high and dry, they didn't even fire a shot. Wtf I see all these vids on utube showing them firing there guns at some shadows at some unkown distances. Not one shows them actually firing at enemy combatants.
If that is doing it right, then i hope that no one sets an attack on American soil, cause we would all be fucked....Running away from combat....Thats not what soldiers are trained to do....In the Preston Wheeler video you can hear a soldier asking Truck #5 to move repeatedly, even tho Preston said numerous times his truck cant move, the soldier simply was freaking out, its like they were not trained. They just simply fail at their job..Grow some fucking balls, pussies. And im sorry for the loses
lmfao, your wrong you wont have to count are the military to protect you from attacks on domestic soil, the real fighters are already here trust me on that, the good american citizens they will pick up a gun and kill till out of ammo, than pick up the enemy's gun and keeping killing until the enemy is gone they aren't afraid, but this is extremely wrong, first i say stop using american citizens for military work, soldiers need to be doing this work if that is how they plan to protect
@opiatkiinq Well thats not a bad idea. Except the military has come to the conclusion that civilian contractors do the job better and cheaper. Not only that. Contractors spend more time in a war zone than actual military units. Most serve 18 months and go home. Contractors work as long as 8 years in the same environment and develop superior understanding to the environment and operation. The shame is. These truck drivers should be issued weapons as needed for defense during high risk ops.
so what maj gen's saying is when the shit goes down its every for himself. if they were military trucks driven by military personel would the same have happened? from what i saw they never fired a shot back, at least give the enemy something to think about,dont wanna make it too easy for them. looked like a total fuck up to me but i aint military so what do i know. what did ya tell the drivers famillies maj gen? they were'nt fast enough? unlucky? what a dickhead..
That sucks. I would have went back and killed some of those rag heads to help the drivers. I can't understand why the drivers can't carry guns. I can carry a pistol with my permit every day in America why not in Iraq?
They would rather avoid the embarressment of a trucker killing someone. Even at the cost of those truckers getting butchered at the hands of those cochroaches. The lesson; The drivers/contractors are expendable, the threat of negative press coverage is not.
I watched Preston Wheeler on his convoy of clowns,,, he was left and abandoned and he must have had angels in his cab with him and around him who saved him so he could tell his story!
The angels will deal with this self serving clown in this video in their own way.
The loss that day HIT ALL OF US. You may have seen the video but are you aware that more gun trucks were behind the convoy trying to move up but do to heavy fire had a slow move up as they returned fire. IF the job was done so bad..why then were the 1173rd asked by the same civilians the following day to return to the same area to recover the trucks and not the active unite as they were assigned to them. Believe your CONSPIRACY THEORY if that is what you wish.
(1)It was about a week later for the recovery and only do to the fact that the media got a hold of this. The trucks were moved to hide them. (2) The same civilians in the ambush were NOT the ones in the recovery. (3) There were only 2 gun trucks left in the rear and did NOT move ahead to try to save Americans. (4) You can hear NO heavy gun fire in the video, only a few rounds at a time. Many of the ambushed civilians are my friends and told my the TRUTH and not your 1173rd and coverup !
The facts as seen in the video speak for themselves. The one truck stalled, the truck ahead was on its side. Nobody stopped to help, everybody ran for the hills. The gun truck ahead of the stalled truck never came back. So what if the elements in the rear were stuck, the elements in the front should have came back to engage.
I already have. You see I have seen the Preston Wheeler video. The video shows how you guys, '1173rd' kills UNARMED AMERICANS.
This maj gen loves the idea that done of his boys were killed. Now that the video is out, this maj gen now has changed his mind, if he ever had one. It seems that NOW they will stand and fight like they SHOULD have. 1173rd al-quida national gaurd.
Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley sent a letter to the secretary of the Army asking for answers about the deaths. In a statement Grassley, said: "I was appalled to hear that some soldiers may have abandoned a convoy of private contractor trucks that those soldiers were supposed to be protecting. I have already contacted the Army to get to the bottom of this. The families of the murdered contractors deserve honest answers."
The Army told us to mind our own _od damn buisness. Typical of our N.G. Army
I was a member of the Outkast Express convoy team. These people had been offered assistance by our C.O and laughed him out of the room. the next day, or two days later, they most certainly DID take a wrong turn, making a right where they should have made a left, and they got those people killed. Shortly after, two members of their unit were out on a ission with us- in my humvee- learning the route, radio procedures, and mission specifics properly.
he tells you his name in the beginging of this video.
he is over deputy general of virginia army. I guess with his own words, he allows the murder of unarmed Americans civilians trying to help the military. see Keven Dagit videos
Immediately following the attack, the 507th conducted an investigation into the 1173rd incident. The investigation determined military personnel responded properly to events on the ground, and did not abandon the convoy as it came under attack. Although the convoy commander conducted thorough pre-combat inspections and checks in accordance with standard operating procedures, the investigation report recommended that convoy rehearsals be more comprehensive in the future.
Convoys will now stand and fight when attacked in Iraq
By Seth Robson, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Friday, March 31, 2006
GRAFENWÖHR, Germany — In a change to Army tactics, U.S. soldiers will stand and fight instead of pressing on when their convoys are attacked on Iraqi roads, according to Harvey Perritt, spokesman for the Army's Training and Doctrine Command at Fort Monroe, Va.
comment from maj. roger gaines said that the 1st 2 years in iraq the national gaurd would run from the firefight. as of 30march06 after the 1173rd ambush they will now stand and fight, via Stars and Stipes.
I worked with Guard units in Iraq. Some were as good as Active units, where as some were clearly not interested in being activated for war assignment and yes some units did in fact leave contractors without weapons in harms way. Some military units especially Guard, were not pleased that Contractors were getting paid well, while they themselves were in Iraq as guardsmen. They never expected to be at war, but national weekend warriors. hence the problem.
NOISLAMINUSA 3 months ago
Buttholes like this is one reason why I got out.
betaswitch1 7 months ago
Preston's video shows that the army vehicle ahead of him keeps on going! They are nowhere in a position to protect him, which was their stated mission -- CONVOY PROTECTION. This smug NG genital makes me sick. His men left these truck drivers hangin' out to dry.
cowboytim98 10 months ago
anybody who has ever heard a 50 cal fire can tell you there was no return fire on that video... but I do think i heard the sound of squeeling tires
moonlitrn1 1 year ago
Doing it right??? LMFAO, I would hate to see what you consider wrong.
razed1022 1 year ago
Where the fuck is the "putting there lives on the line to protect our countrymen". Preston is a civillian/american for god sake.
razed1022 1 year ago
Bull fucken shit!!! I saw the video, those poor truckers didnt stand a chance. Preston's video stayed rollin even after smoke cleared, you can clearly see down the street, "no military personal". Not only did they bug out and leave him high and dry, they didn't even fire a shot. Wtf I see all these vids on utube showing them firing there guns at some shadows at some unkown distances. Not one shows them actually firing at enemy combatants.
razed1022 1 year ago
If that is doing it right, then i hope that no one sets an attack on American soil, cause we would all be fucked....Running away from combat....Thats not what soldiers are trained to do....In the Preston Wheeler video you can hear a soldier asking Truck #5 to move repeatedly, even tho Preston said numerous times his truck cant move, the soldier simply was freaking out, its like they were not trained. They just simply fail at their job..Grow some fucking balls, pussies. And im sorry for the loses
topherlinc 2 years ago
What ever happened to one mission one mind ... Area of Responsibility AOR you never leave it!!!
gschnacker01 2 years ago
lmfao, your wrong you wont have to count are the military to protect you from attacks on domestic soil, the real fighters are already here trust me on that, the good american citizens they will pick up a gun and kill till out of ammo, than pick up the enemy's gun and keeping killing until the enemy is gone they aren't afraid, but this is extremely wrong, first i say stop using american citizens for military work, soldiers need to be doing this work if that is how they plan to protect
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opiatkiinq 1 year ago
@opiatkiinq Well thats not a bad idea. Except the military has come to the conclusion that civilian contractors do the job better and cheaper. Not only that. Contractors spend more time in a war zone than actual military units. Most serve 18 months and go home. Contractors work as long as 8 years in the same environment and develop superior understanding to the environment and operation. The shame is. These truck drivers should be issued weapons as needed for defense during high risk ops.
NOISLAMINUSA 3 months ago
Mil Rep. states: "perimeter was established beyond the FRONT and REAR of the convoy."
What good is that? It left the drivers in the middle of the killzone for 30+ minutes. Air arrived 20+ after initial contact.
Amazing any of the drivers are still alive. Luckily focking Haji can't shoot and the Guard proved to be slightly less disorganized than Haji.
actonbath 2 years ago
this just pisses me off!!!!!!!
jasonsr3 2 years ago
bs stay your fucking creed!!!!!
ChakanEvil 2 years ago
the West Virginia National Guard would have stayed with them and got them out
levisnteeshirt 2 years ago
so what maj gen's saying is when the shit goes down its every for himself. if they were military trucks driven by military personel would the same have happened? from what i saw they never fired a shot back, at least give the enemy something to think about,dont wanna make it too easy for them. looked like a total fuck up to me but i aint military so what do i know. what did ya tell the drivers famillies maj gen? they were'nt fast enough? unlucky? what a dickhead..
deanopks 2 years ago
That sucks. I would have went back and killed some of those rag heads to help the drivers. I can't understand why the drivers can't carry guns. I can carry a pistol with my permit every day in America why not in Iraq?
ferret6677 2 years ago
They would rather avoid the embarressment of a trucker killing someone. Even at the cost of those truckers getting butchered at the hands of those cochroaches. The lesson; The drivers/contractors are expendable, the threat of negative press coverage is not.
KarsiaDave 2 years ago
I watched Preston Wheeler on his convoy of clowns,,, he was left and abandoned and he must have had angels in his cab with him and around him who saved him so he could tell his story!
The angels will deal with this self serving clown in this video in their own way.
James In UK.
jim1a2a 3 years ago
The loss that day HIT ALL OF US. You may have seen the video but are you aware that more gun trucks were behind the convoy trying to move up but do to heavy fire had a slow move up as they returned fire. IF the job was done so bad..why then were the 1173rd asked by the same civilians the following day to return to the same area to recover the trucks and not the active unite as they were assigned to them. Believe your CONSPIRACY THEORY if that is what you wish.
matt231979 3 years ago
(1)It was about a week later for the recovery and only do to the fact that the media got a hold of this. The trucks were moved to hide them. (2) The same civilians in the ambush were NOT the ones in the recovery. (3) There were only 2 gun trucks left in the rear and did NOT move ahead to try to save Americans. (4) You can hear NO heavy gun fire in the video, only a few rounds at a time. Many of the ambushed civilians are my friends and told my the TRUTH and not your 1173rd and coverup !
Duluiyah 3 years ago
The facts as seen in the video speak for themselves. The one truck stalled, the truck ahead was on its side. Nobody stopped to help, everybody ran for the hills. The gun truck ahead of the stalled truck never came back. So what if the elements in the rear were stuck, the elements in the front should have came back to engage.
KarsiaDave 2 years ago
If you want to know what happened then carry yourself over their and go have a look.
matt231979 3 years ago
I already have. You see I have seen the Preston Wheeler video. The video shows how you guys, '1173rd' kills UNARMED AMERICANS.
This maj gen loves the idea that done of his boys were killed. Now that the video is out, this maj gen now has changed his mind, if he ever had one. It seems that NOW they will stand and fight like they SHOULD have. 1173rd al-quida national gaurd.
Duluiyah 3 years ago
amazing how he defends it but offers no explanation as to what happened.
he's proud of them? well he shouldn't be.
rehvan77 3 years ago
He mentions 'Global War on Terror'. The U.S. has created that War lol.
drcloak 3 years ago
Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley sent a letter to the secretary of the Army asking for answers about the deaths. In a statement Grassley, said: "I was appalled to hear that some soldiers may have abandoned a convoy of private contractor trucks that those soldiers were supposed to be protecting. I have already contacted the Army to get to the bottom of this. The families of the murdered contractors deserve honest answers."
The Army told us to mind our own _od damn buisness. Typical of our N.G. Army
Duluiyah 3 years ago
I was a member of the Outkast Express convoy team. These people had been offered assistance by our C.O and laughed him out of the room. the next day, or two days later, they most certainly DID take a wrong turn, making a right where they should have made a left, and they got those people killed. Shortly after, two members of their unit were out on a ission with us- in my humvee- learning the route, radio procedures, and mission specifics properly.
Pride and arrogance killed those guys. Period
Iraqsuxs 4 years ago
what is this major genital's name?
deliciousmorton 4 years ago 2
he tells you his name in the beginging of this video.
he is over deputy general of virginia army. I guess with his own words, he allows the murder of unarmed Americans civilians trying to help the military. see Keven Dagit videos
Duluiyah 4 years ago
Immediately following the attack, the 507th conducted an investigation into the 1173rd incident. The investigation determined military personnel responded properly to events on the ground, and did not abandon the convoy as it came under attack. Although the convoy commander conducted thorough pre-combat inspections and checks in accordance with standard operating procedures, the investigation report recommended that convoy rehearsals be more comprehensive in the future.
Duluiyah 4 years ago
Convoys will now stand and fight when attacked in Iraq
By Seth Robson, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Friday, March 31, 2006
GRAFENWÖHR, Germany — In a change to Army tactics, U.S. soldiers will stand and fight instead of pressing on when their convoys are attacked on Iraqi roads, according to Harvey Perritt, spokesman for the Army's Training and Doctrine Command at Fort Monroe, Va.
Iraqsuxs 4 years ago
comment from maj. roger gaines said that the 1st 2 years in iraq the national gaurd would run from the firefight. as of 30march06 after the 1173rd ambush they will now stand and fight, via Stars and Stipes.
coverup maj. gen.of virginia
Iraqsuxs 4 years ago
look at the web site Stars and Stipes.
look for the name, Seth Robson.
date of 30march06
see the coverup this guys doesn't want you to see.
Iraqsuxs 4 years ago
Do you know if the ABC report is available on youtube?
mildseven2006 4 years ago
look under Preston Wheeler for the video. the ABC report was in 2006 of sept.
Duluiyah 4 years ago
This guy is a coward. He needs to be court martialed. COVER UP. COVER UP.
knp062597 4 years ago
do you hear how he threaten ABC!!!
This is NOT an American!!!
Watch the video and see the TRUTH.
watch the Preston Wheeler video on youtube.
The gun truck NEVER fires a shot. And they leave the downed KBR trucks with NO attempt to try to save American lives. brian dagit
Duluiyah 4 years ago