12 Grandes Etudes No.1 - Franz Liszt

[trp8155]

Is this one any more difficult than the Transcendental version?

[piano9977]

@trp8155 no, the Transcendental one is harder, not by much, but has more chord "jumps" and such.

[chutdigadut]

this one doesn't seem very different than the revised prelude? just minor changes?

[hailkayy]

This piece is for EveRyBody A prelude to other Mr the author of this ^^.

Actually the first transcendantal etude, which is the more refined version of this piece, is called "prelude"

Look at the right-corner description

[AlexanderWung]

the grand etudes are etudes originally composed by pagnini and trabscribed by liszt. these are the transcendetal etudes. and grand etudes only have 6

[addeex1]

Wrong, this is the grand douze etudes based liszts op.1... In 1852 he refined them and called them Transcendental. It's tre versions!!

And the paganini etudes, the first version is called transcendental etudes on paganini. then in 1851(?) refined them and pubished them as grand etudes on paganini. It's 2 versions on paganini!!! Or actually there are 3 versions on no 3, the one we call "La campanella" But I only have a few letters left in this comment so we take it another time^^

[stevey226]

I've found 2 and 3 of La campanella. I'm still looking for the first. Any clues where I may listen, or just see it? Thanks

[bb0ysmiley]

@stevey226 The name la campanella came later. The first version was a bigger and much harder work, wich he wrote around 1832-34, after seeing Paganini perform in Paris. It's named Grande fantaisie de bravoure sur La clochette, S.420, but search for Fantasy la clochette, then you will find it easy.

[bb0ysmiley]

@addeex1 In 1838-1840 he revised no. 1,4 and 5, (S.140/1a, S.140/4b, S.140/5a) but it wasn't published until 1911. He then revised them in 1851 as you say, and we end up with S.141.

[PJmusicBoy]

it would be better with more clarity

[ZarBucanero]

Ugh :(

[KellyGoRound]

The only thing that I can think of: HOLY SHIT.

I'm learning the same piece, but it seems a little more complicated on this one. Maybe mine's a different version? They're definetely similar though

[whatsmylogin]

The Douze Grandes Etudes were an earlier (and in most cases, more difficult) version of the Transcendental Etudes, hence the difference. I can't believe you don't know that if you claim to be studying this piece. Don't you inform yourself about the music you play?

[KellyGoRound]

Maybe I will, starting now.

So are you saying that I'm studying one of the Trancendial Etudes, and this is one of the Douze Grandes.

Youtube happens to be one my sources for info. Not enough, I guess.

[puddingpimp]

@KellyGoRound There are three evolutions of Liszt's Etudes, they start with Etude in 12 exercises, then evolve into Grand Etudes, and finally the extremely difficult Transcendental Etudes. I highly recommend you start with the Etude in 12 exercises, as the others build on the theme, and are a lot easier to memorise when you have already learnt the theme. I'm speaking from knowledge and not experience, I just started learning the Etude in 12 exercises, I don't dare attempt the grand etudes now.

[heavymetalpwns]

@puddingpimp All of The Grand Etudes are more difficult than the Transcendental Etudes, with the exception of the 4th, which is the only Transcendental etude more difficult than it's Grand etude counterpart.

[bb0ysmiley]

@heavymetalpwns No.1 of the grandes etudes are easier, but it's just minor changes.

[TheClaux97]

@puddingpimp Grand etudes are more difficult than the Trascendental etudes

[2hyeok]

@KellyGoRound It's because yous is probablt transcendental etude n.1 this is grande etude n.1

[duckman085]

beautiful music

[nazhiitoxx]

at 26 seconds, 35 seconds and from 47 to 49 seconds, these are the differences :D

[chutdigadut]

@nazhiitoxx haha ohhh ok i see. thanks