Lol why I shouldn't read comments: 1. I don't care about the quality as long as I can make out the scene 2. Always arguements on things that are older then people arguing about them 3. Because I should be watching the clip before I miss any of it
Excellent submarine and naval battle movie. First rate scenes with no modern cgi were very believable and exciting background for the action. Good acting as always from Ford and Borgnine. Storyline a little dramatic and over the top killing his wife and daughter. Sound quit but did not hurt anything. Thanks for posting this surprisingly excellent war movie. Actually one of the best sub movies ever.
@WALTERBROADDUS As someone else suggested earlier to someone else here you might want to look up the USS Pampanito. You can also look into the USS Paddle, Arisan Maru, Hell Ships, or the wiki page on ships sunk by subs. The British sunk Junyo Maru with over 5000 prisoners. So yeah it was in the thousands. WWII had such large numbers of people involved its not surprising
@jlastre Oh, I have no doubt about the incidents. Just that the other guy's comment made it sound wide spread. The Junyo Maru transport seems to have been overloaded to have that many on a small ship. So Ok at least 4 digit losses to friendly attack did occur. Rather odd. Never read much on British subs in the Pacific. Just their surface forces. Learn something new every day.
@jlastre The Pampanito, I believe in docked at the museum near Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco. I went on a tour of the sub and was very surprised on how small the interior of the ship was. it was an awesome event.
@GIOVANNI1955C In the Pampanito I thought about how it would have been to be in that tiny space with 125 other young men with no bathing facilities for weeks at a time.
A message for woodgreen park. Although not deliberate, a US submarine in WW2 did sink a ship carrying POW's from the Far East to Japan. They didn't know the ship was carrying POW's, but I think there were other accidents as well.
@moderick Yes, it was the "USS Pampanito". Yes, FAR from deliberate. You have the ships name now so you can research this for yourselve and come to your own conclusions. Always amazed how "friendly fire" is treated as something new in warfare by the public and news media. I believe James Garner the actor got shot this way in Korea. The only thing NEW is the lethality of weapons involved with friendly fire incidents, nothing more.
I really like these kinds of films. Great action and very good actors by the principles. Stern tubes to explode the mines was brilliant. Too bad the sound conked out but, incidentally, other than describing the sinking of Shinaro, the Bluefin captain said (something like): "Great shooting, Greyfish".
The premise of this movie is nonsense, The navy would never intentionally sink a ship carrying 1400 pows no matter what the target. and secondly, a ship carrying pows could only screen one side of a carrier, You could attack from the other side.
@woodgreenpark Research the "USS Pampanito", and you will find your answers.
In fact you can go to San Francisco to see the submarine today.
I am not a sub expert but most surface ships like a new Jap carrier are much faster than a sub so you may not have the opportunity to decide which side of the ship to attack.
@rampking1 Actually, I think nowadays, subs carry over the horizon anti ship missiles like AGM-84D Harpoon. They travel at high subsonic speeds. No surface ship is going to out run one.
@clintonearlwalker I thought we were talking about WWII subs here ? Light years difference between then and now. Yes, subs these days can carry Tomahawk Cruise missile as well.
@rampking1 I was waiting for this comment, that was my mistake. I'm sorry. I didn't see the original comment you were replying to until later. When I seen the phrase "new Jap carrier", I though you were talking about the carrier the Japs launched about 1 month ago. My mistake, I'm sorry, I don't usually make mistakes in these comments, but I'm not perfect.
@rampking1 Thanx for that, don't get me started about the "new YouTube format". You know "The Fighting Sullivans" is posted here, I have it open in another tab right now, Cheers!!
@WALTERBROADDUS I think you are incorret. "The first ship in the class, Hyūga, was commissioned on March 18, 2009 and stationed in Yokosuka, near Tokyo.[3] The second ship Ise went into service on March 16, 2011 and will be stationed in Kure.The Hyūga-class' specifications are comparable to light aircraft carriers, such as Italian Giuseppe Garibaldi, Spanish Principe de Asturias and Royal Navy's Invincible-class carriers."--Wikipedia
@clintonearlwalker But she has no fixed wing aircraft at all. Those others do. Even they call them "helicopter Destroyer." In any case, I thought you mean the refurbished Chinese ship based on the date given. So, Ok your were talking the right navy. Is it a carrier? hmmmmmmm...........
@woodgreenpark You risk being detected to move. You also don't factor speed. A WW 2 sub can only move about 6-7 knots underwater. The target will have sailed passed you.
Thank you so much for uploading this! been looking for it for a long time. I use to have it on video but I wore the video out, I love glenn ford in this movie, seriously awesome thank u!
Just one point , there was no shinaro or any ship by that name that comes close , but for the shinano that comes any where near this ship. In the time run of this film 1942.
@athenasword1 HIjMS Shinano. Converted Yamato-class super battleship. Sunk ten days after commissioning by USS Archer-Fish. The Archer-Fish got away afterwards and served until the 1960's.
kills his family and a bunch of other civilians- risks the crews life needlessly- rich illuminati's who started the war- laughing their asses off, safe and sound back home- Yep thats our boy- we need more like him for the next war.....very funny movie- enjoyed it big time
Nice war movie and an excellent cast...Ford,Borgnine,and Dean Jones long before He drove Herbie the love bug...Than you for this blast from the past :-)
@tina6581 I'm well aware of the mechanical defects of the Mark 14 torpedo. However, within the contexts of this movie, the defects of the torpedo, was not the issue.The Germans had similar problems w/their torpedoes, but,their bureaucracy allowed them to resolve those defects early in the war.
the cpt. could have sunk the carrier in the first attack,without sinking the screening transport. setting the torpedoes at a depth to match the carrier's deeper draft,the torpedoes would have passed under the transport. also, the two destroyers were sitting ducks waiting on station for him to attempt a rescue of the captives.
@clomid100 Mate you are forgetting two things. One, this is a move and the story has to last and work dramatically. Two, US torpedoes of the time where crap and, for the most part, the depth setting system was just for show. :-)
@rhall4th lol you dont know this actor this is not only his 2 movies that you only knew he got lot and lots of movies this is your assignment what is his name ??? if you can name him you will have a free trip to the moon the first person to be left alone on the surface of the moon but never to return lol
Ernest Borgnine who played Archie graduated high school but coudn't decide on a job, so he joined the U. S. N., then after a 3 year tour of duty was out of the navy until the U. S.
got into WW2 and served a total of ten years, BUT he was not a P. T. Boat Cmdr. but a gunnery mate!
I've chased this one a long long time. Don't know how you did it but well done. I saw it 20yrs. ago and it's always stuck while others have faded. If you decide to run for president you have my vote!
Where did you find this man?? I was shown this when i was a kid back in the late 80's and fell in love with it!! Thanks so much for posting this movie, it's impossible to find it on disc!
Lol why I shouldn't read comments: 1. I don't care about the quality as long as I can make out the scene 2. Always arguements on things that are older then people arguing about them 3. Because I should be watching the clip before I miss any of it
blackoutcider 1 week ago
This was on TCM on Thursday.....good movie but did they ever find out what actually happened to Glen Ford's wife and daughter?
lesababy 2 weeks ago
Here is what was said in the last 3 minutes of the film when it goes silent. All lines are spoken by the guy looking through the periscope.
There she goes. at 1:33:55
beginning at 1:34:25:
scratch one flat top.
confirmed sinking.
Well down Green Fish.
Let's get out of here.
sky0725 2 weeks ago in playlist torpedo run
Thanks for uploading the video even though it is sort of like watching a movie through the bttom of a Coke bottle. Not very good quality. Too bad!
BGoldtone 2 weeks ago
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gat569 3 weeks ago
Excellent submarine and naval battle movie. First rate scenes with no modern cgi were very believable and exciting background for the action. Good acting as always from Ford and Borgnine. Storyline a little dramatic and over the top killing his wife and daughter. Sound quit but did not hurt anything. Thanks for posting this surprisingly excellent war movie. Actually one of the best sub movies ever.
mvies77 3 weeks ago
DID ANYONE ELSE GET NO SOUND AT VERY ENDOF MOVIE WHEN CAPTEN DESCRIBES SHIP SINKING
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cxan some one explain this " hot straight and normal " is there ever anything else ?
sgtfoxhound 1 month ago
@sgtfoxhound The Mk 14 torpedo was steam powered, using alcohol for fuel. The motor
was supposed to start after the torpedo left the tube, sometimes it did not. That is the
hot part. The straight and normal part, the torpedo could be preset to make a slight
turn right or left then straight. Sometimes they would turn more or less than set.
And on a really bad day the torpedo would make a complete circle and come back at
the firing sub. Called a circular shot.
mecallahan1 4 weeks ago
The story line is preposterous, but the torpedo shooting procedures as depicted are pretty spot-on for a WWII US Navy sub.
jamiegottagunATyahoo 1 month ago
@jamiegottagunATyahoo Not really... Thousands of Allied POW's died in Japanese ships torpedoed by U.S. and British submarines.
tcrlaf 1 month ago
@tcrlaf Hell ships.
Turnback 1 month ago
@tcrlaf Thousands is a bit of a stretch
WALTERBROADDUS 3 weeks ago
@WALTERBROADDUS As someone else suggested earlier to someone else here you might want to look up the USS Pampanito. You can also look into the USS Paddle, Arisan Maru, Hell Ships, or the wiki page on ships sunk by subs. The British sunk Junyo Maru with over 5000 prisoners. So yeah it was in the thousands. WWII had such large numbers of people involved its not surprising
jlastre 3 weeks ago
@jlastre Oh, I have no doubt about the incidents. Just that the other guy's comment made it sound wide spread. The Junyo Maru transport seems to have been overloaded to have that many on a small ship. So Ok at least 4 digit losses to friendly attack did occur. Rather odd. Never read much on British subs in the Pacific. Just their surface forces. Learn something new every day.
WALTERBROADDUS 3 weeks ago
@jlastre The Pampanito, I believe in docked at the museum near Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco. I went on a tour of the sub and was very surprised on how small the interior of the ship was. it was an awesome event.
GIOVANNI1955C 3 weeks ago
@GIOVANNI1955C In the Pampanito I thought about how it would have been to be in that tiny space with 125 other young men with no bathing facilities for weeks at a time.
Stannnnnnnnn 3 weeks ago
great class
andrewcostigan01 1 month ago
War movie, Western, or Detective movie. Can't go wrong with Glenn Ford.
amurican35 1 month ago 2
happened to watch most of it on tcm just yesterday. not a bad flick with a good performance by ernest borgnine.
solarplexus4 1 month ago
Great movie!
USS George C Marshall SSBN 654 1967-1971
1boatsailor 1 month ago
A message for woodgreen park. Although not deliberate, a US submarine in WW2 did sink a ship carrying POW's from the Far East to Japan. They didn't know the ship was carrying POW's, but I think there were other accidents as well.
moderick 1 month ago
@moderick ..Frendly fire from the yanks,,Wots new...
ThePanzer6969 1 month ago
@moderick Yes, it was the "USS Pampanito". Yes, FAR from deliberate. You have the ships name now so you can research this for yourselve and come to your own conclusions. Always amazed how "friendly fire" is treated as something new in warfare by the public and news media. I believe James Garner the actor got shot this way in Korea. The only thing NEW is the lethality of weapons involved with friendly fire incidents, nothing more.
rampking1 1 month ago
both ernest borgine & glen ford were both in the usa navy in ww-2 for real!
derail14 1 month ago
thanks for the info. this I couldn't find in wiki or anywhere else I just looked up all jap ships
and could not see it listed?? thanks
athenasword1 1 month ago
I see McHale but I don't see Mr Ballantine.
richtxn47 1 month ago
@richtxn47 Nice! someone who has not forgotten Carl Ballantine !
rampking1 1 month ago
I really like these kinds of films. Great action and very good actors by the principles. Stern tubes to explode the mines was brilliant. Too bad the sound conked out but, incidentally, other than describing the sinking of Shinaro, the Bluefin captain said (something like): "Great shooting, Greyfish".
patp464 1 month ago
The premise of this movie is nonsense, The navy would never intentionally sink a ship carrying 1400 pows no matter what the target. and secondly, a ship carrying pows could only screen one side of a carrier, You could attack from the other side.
woodgreenpark 1 month ago
@woodgreenpark Research the "USS Pampanito", and you will find your answers.
In fact you can go to San Francisco to see the submarine today.
I am not a sub expert but most surface ships like a new Jap carrier are much faster than a sub so you may not have the opportunity to decide which side of the ship to attack.
rampking1 1 month ago
@rampking1 Actually, I think nowadays, subs carry over the horizon anti ship missiles like AGM-84D Harpoon. They travel at high subsonic speeds. No surface ship is going to out run one.
clintonearlwalker 1 month ago
@clintonearlwalker I thought we were talking about WWII subs here ? Light years difference between then and now. Yes, subs these days can carry Tomahawk Cruise missile as well.
rampking1 1 month ago
@rampking1 I was waiting for this comment, that was my mistake. I'm sorry. I didn't see the original comment you were replying to until later. When I seen the phrase "new Jap carrier", I though you were talking about the carrier the Japs launched about 1 month ago. My mistake, I'm sorry, I don't usually make mistakes in these comments, but I'm not perfect.
clintonearlwalker 1 month ago
@clintonearlwalker No, problem, neither am I.
With this new YouTube format, it has caused mass confusion in the video comments section.
rampking1 1 month ago
@rampking1 Thanx for that, don't get me started about the "new YouTube format". You know "The Fighting Sullivans" is posted here, I have it open in another tab right now, Cheers!!
clintonearlwalker 1 month ago
@clintonearlwalker I think you mean the Peoples Republic of China. Not Japan.
WALTERBROADDUS 3 weeks ago
@WALTERBROADDUS I think you are incorret. "The first ship in the class, Hyūga, was commissioned on March 18, 2009 and stationed in Yokosuka, near Tokyo.[3] The second ship Ise went into service on March 16, 2011 and will be stationed in Kure.The Hyūga-class' specifications are comparable to light aircraft carriers, such as Italian Giuseppe Garibaldi, Spanish Principe de Asturias and Royal Navy's Invincible-class carriers."--Wikipedia
clintonearlwalker 3 weeks ago
@clintonearlwalker But she has no fixed wing aircraft at all. Those others do. Even they call them "helicopter Destroyer." In any case, I thought you mean the refurbished Chinese ship based on the date given. So, Ok your were talking the right navy. Is it a carrier? hmmmmmmm...........
WALTERBROADDUS 3 weeks ago
@woodgreenpark You risk being detected to move. You also don't factor speed. A WW 2 sub can only move about 6-7 knots underwater. The target will have sailed passed you.
WALTERBROADDUS 3 weeks ago
glen ford also served in the usa navy for real
derail14 1 month ago
Yeah good movie but i would have liked to hear the last part of it
BLAYDZ99 1 month ago
Movie was fine until the end. At about 1:33:49 the sound stops.
vinnie1369 2 months ago
Thank you so much for uploading this! been looking for it for a long time. I use to have it on video but I wore the video out, I love glenn ford in this movie, seriously awesome thank u!
kimpunkrock 2 months ago
kickass
badjimmy68 2 months ago
Just one point , there was no shinaro or any ship by that name that comes close , but for the shinano that comes any where near this ship. In the time run of this film 1942.
athenasword1 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
@athenasword1 HIjMS Shinano. Converted Yamato-class super battleship. Sunk ten days after commissioning by USS Archer-Fish. The Archer-Fish got away afterwards and served until the 1960's.
DanielKnyphausen 1 month ago
great lookin film nice post
badjimmy68 2 months ago
You guys ARE FANTASTIC!! THANKS
athenasword1 2 months ago
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kills his family and a bunch of other civilians- risks the crews life needlessly- rich illuminati's who started the war- laughing their asses off, safe and sound back home- Yep thats our boy- we need more like him for the next war.....very funny movie- enjoyed it big time
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dberry999666 2 months ago
Nice war movie and an excellent cast...Ford,Borgnine,and Dean Jones long before He drove Herbie the love bug...Than you for this blast from the past :-)
kyteddy1 2 months ago 2
stops at 35:47 can't watch the rest of this great movie..help!
whiskeyify 2 months ago
if there's one thing these old movies taught me, it's "smoking is fun", lol :D
rofflemows2 2 months ago
i used to love playing the board game Torpedo Run...
rofflemows2 2 months ago
that film make me want to play silent hunter 4 for hours:D
TheBByamashiro 3 months ago 2
@TheBByamashiro me too
EpicHawk 3 months ago
Good grief, I have never seen this movie before, but it's 'effin great!
andreasegde 3 months ago
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andreasegde 3 months ago
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David Irving to get the real history of who/why started the French , Bolshevik revolutions and how the world was
"dragged "into the great wars . The history is extremely important as it is the same "gang"
using us now to destroy our neighbours .
SEE: whythemilitaryknowIsr/eldid9/11
Get the facts , not Zionist propaganda.
theoutremerlibrary 3 months ago
@theoutremerlibrary
what does Zionist propaganda have to do with this movie?????
Masterfox73 2 months ago
Thanks for the upload. Great apart from the loss of the audio track in the last minutes
sailingric 3 months ago
Great movie, and one I'd never seen before, but unfortunately, the audio disappears right before the movie ends.
writesong 3 months ago
@tina6581 I'm well aware of the mechanical defects of the Mark 14 torpedo. However, within the contexts of this movie, the defects of the torpedo, was not the issue.The Germans had similar problems w/their torpedoes, but,their bureaucracy allowed them to resolve those defects early in the war.
clomid100 3 months ago
the cpt. could have sunk the carrier in the first attack,without sinking the screening transport. setting the torpedoes at a depth to match the carrier's deeper draft,the torpedoes would have passed under the transport. also, the two destroyers were sitting ducks waiting on station for him to attempt a rescue of the captives.
clomid100 4 months ago
@clomid100 Mate you are forgetting two things. One, this is a move and the story has to last and work dramatically. Two, US torpedoes of the time where crap and, for the most part, the depth setting system was just for show. :-)
tina6581 3 months ago
The actor who plays the captain in this movie also plays the part of Admiral Spruance in the movie Midway!
rhall4th 4 months ago
@rhall4th lol you dont know this actor this is not only his 2 movies that you only knew he got lot and lots of movies this is your assignment what is his name ??? if you can name him you will have a free trip to the moon the first person to be left alone on the surface of the moon but never to return lol
ceboym 4 months ago
@ceboym I just looked him up on IMDb. His name is Glenn Ford!
rhall4th 4 months ago
Without the sound at the end, how can I weep for Barney and his loss of wife? How?
huskyjerk 4 months ago
thank you for uploading this forgotten classic
colintraveller 4 months ago
forget about the lack of sound at the end, it was a brilliant movie, what more can be said?
bernardhill1 5 months ago
What happened to the sound at the end?
georgel071 5 months ago
wtf it is on youtube why am i downloading it
Angerfist2 5 months ago
@Angerfist2 \
oh it is crashing all the time
Angerfist2 5 months ago
Ernest Borgnine who played Archie graduated high school but coudn't decide on a job, so he joined the U. S. N., then after a 3 year tour of duty was out of the navy until the U. S.
got into WW2 and served a total of ten years, BUT he was not a P. T. Boat Cmdr. but a gunnery mate!
wwrigle2 6 months ago
What happened to the sound for the last few minutes, you bastards!!!
wwrigle2 6 months ago
@wwrigle2 What's wrong with you, can't you LIP READ ?
Beedeep beedeeeep,.....That's all folks !
TelecasterLPGTop 4 months ago
thanks for flick. sound drops out last couple of minutes. good movie.
girlishfun 6 months ago
I've also been looking for this one for a long time. Thanks for posting it.
videomaniac108 9 months ago
I've chased this one a long long time. Don't know how you did it but well done. I saw it 20yrs. ago and it's always stuck while others have faded. If you decide to run for president you have my vote!
Flickchaser 10 months ago
Where did you find this man?? I was shown this when i was a kid back in the late 80's and fell in love with it!! Thanks so much for posting this movie, it's impossible to find it on disc!
ShelbyEleanor500 11 months ago