I totally agree! We have a great heritage.. There is nothing new under the sun! God is still the same now as in the days the bible stories where happening! We can learn a lot from these men & women who followed God with their whole heart, mind & soul.
i would agree with most of what you said, but i think we should really focus on God moving, not looking to the past. i don't think we've forgotten history, but there are new ways of reaching the lost, and i think that rob bell and donald miller are dead on with there messages.
Beautifully said. You mention in the end to actually look to older people and I find that interesting because it seems that there is this invisible wall between different generations of Christians... I wonder what we could learned if we actually bridged that gap.
I didn't expect to like this blog message, but yes I get it. And you said it well.
Elders are important. I read something recently about asking yourself who was the most beautiful person you know and how so many responded by naming a person with grey hair.
The last two comments are making me wonder if my point is getting lost somewhere...
1) I didn't mean to imply that our relationship to God depends on our appreciation for Church history (and eldership). I'm merely trying to encourage those in my generation to make the effort to connect with people, teaching, writings from outside our post-modern bubble.
2) I didn't mean to imply that you couldn't enjoy both Rob Bell's stuff and Jonathan Edwards. In fact, I was trying to encourage people to embrace both. Embrace history and current trends.
This isn't a "one or the other" proposition. I'm not speaking out against the Rob Bell's of the world (whose teaching I listen to on a weekly basis). I'm trying to broaden the perspectives of folks of my generation.
It speaks to a larger issue that is on my heart concerning my generation. And that's the sense I get that in our pursuit of new ideas we're marginalizing "elders" in the church. I'm trying to build some bridges here... that's all.
@ShaneBertou Hi Shane, I agree 100% with what you said. Based on your video, I believe you would find the Orthodox Church very interesting, do you know much about them?
History is interesting and it has its place, but focusing on it as if our relationship with God depends on it could be distracting. ...and not everyone is as isnpired by it as others. If Rob Bell is giving new inspiring thoughts on Christianity, I say let people be inspired by him without having to know who John Edwards was.
Do you have to watch Casablanca and Citizen Kane in order to appreciate movies?
I like your thoughts.
My sister and brother in law live on Crossgates Road (I live in CT.)
(Just a comment on your shirt logo, which most folks far away would not recognize.)
mavis41558 3 years ago
I totally agree! We have a great heritage.. There is nothing new under the sun! God is still the same now as in the days the bible stories where happening! We can learn a lot from these men & women who followed God with their whole heart, mind & soul.
Adelaartje 4 years ago
i would agree with most of what you said, but i think we should really focus on God moving, not looking to the past. i don't think we've forgotten history, but there are new ways of reaching the lost, and i think that rob bell and donald miller are dead on with there messages.
byyours 4 years ago
Beautifully said. You mention in the end to actually look to older people and I find that interesting because it seems that there is this invisible wall between different generations of Christians... I wonder what we could learned if we actually bridged that gap.
Addisonbrown 4 years ago
Gates-Chili - Rochester, New York
dmbfantony 4 years ago
Wow man. Good call.
ShaneBertou 4 years ago
I didn't expect to like this blog message, but yes I get it. And you said it well.
Elders are important. I read something recently about asking yourself who was the most beautiful person you know and how so many responded by naming a person with grey hair.
cathysfiddle 4 years ago
It's a good point but I still think you can like Edwards and Bell at the same time (I do)
biblegirl 5 years ago
The last two comments are making me wonder if my point is getting lost somewhere...
1) I didn't mean to imply that our relationship to God depends on our appreciation for Church history (and eldership). I'm merely trying to encourage those in my generation to make the effort to connect with people, teaching, writings from outside our post-modern bubble.
ShaneBertou 5 years ago
2) I didn't mean to imply that you couldn't enjoy both Rob Bell's stuff and Jonathan Edwards. In fact, I was trying to encourage people to embrace both. Embrace history and current trends.
This isn't a "one or the other" proposition. I'm not speaking out against the Rob Bell's of the world (whose teaching I listen to on a weekly basis). I'm trying to broaden the perspectives of folks of my generation.
ShaneBertou 5 years ago
It speaks to a larger issue that is on my heart concerning my generation. And that's the sense I get that in our pursuit of new ideas we're marginalizing "elders" in the church. I'm trying to build some bridges here... that's all.
ShaneBertou 5 years ago
@ShaneBertou Hi Shane, I agree 100% with what you said. Based on your video, I believe you would find the Orthodox Church very interesting, do you know much about them?
TLWWJAHWASM 1 year ago
History is interesting and it has its place, but focusing on it as if our relationship with God depends on it could be distracting. ...and not everyone is as isnpired by it as others. If Rob Bell is giving new inspiring thoughts on Christianity, I say let people be inspired by him without having to know who John Edwards was.
Do you have to watch Casablanca and Citizen Kane in order to appreciate movies?
thamuzicaddict 5 years ago
Beautiful message! May God Bless you and those you love.
PraiseWebsite 5 years ago