On page 11 of the Grand Jury Report Gary Schultz testified that Paterno forced Sandusky to retire in 99. Sandusky had 2 options: Retire or be publicly fired. Sandusky chose retirement.
QUOTE: "Schultz testified that Sandusky retired when Paterno felt it was time to make a coaching change."
This occurred AFTER the 1998 investigation Sandusky when accused of child rape in PSU showers for the FIRST time. Sandusky admitted to "inappropriate behavior & showering w boys in PSU showers"
On page 16 of the Grand Jury Report "Victim 4" testified about a secret meeting where Paterno told him he would not be Penn State's next head coach shortly before Sandusky was forced to retire(FIRED).
QUOTE"Victim 4 remembers Sandusky being emotionally upset after having a meeting with Paterno in which Paterno told Sandusky he would not be the next head coach at Penn State and which preceded Sandusky's retirement.Sandusky told Victim 4 not to tell anyone about the meeting"
Everyone is blinded by fucking college football. Joe Paterno was a fucking piece of shit for not going to the police and everyone who mourns him is a fucking cunt.
@MarathonVeteran Yeah, so brave of you to hide under the cover of night and hide behind a false name to admit it. You and the rest of the people spewing ignorance and hate are nothing but trolls and cowards. I will always support JoePa for the many great things he did for my university, and will wear my "Thank You Paterno" shirt with absolute pride.
@MarathonVeteran I think you are confusing Joe for Jerry. I mean I guess if you don't bother reading anything other than hateful blogs, I can see the mix up. Jerry was the one who molested the boys. Joe was the one who reported it the incident that came to him to the head of the University Police. That is why Joe was NOT charged with any crime.
@MarathonVeteran What are you talking about? Sandusky was barred from campus, and the incident only happened 9 years ago. And Joe isn't the guardian of Penn State, choosing to allow who may enter or not. He doesn't have as much power as people think.
@klajcollege And Joe didn't know of rape, because Mcqueary didn't report it as such to Joe, Mcqueary admitted that in his testimony in December. He basically gave JoePa a G-rated version of what he saw. For all Joe knew, Sandusky was just in the locker showers with a child. Although that is extremely creepy, that is not illegal.
On page 7 of the Grand Jury Report Joe Paterno TESTIFIED that he was informed by McQueary that Sandusky did "something of a SEXUAL nature to a young boy in the showers".
JP waited until the NEXT DAY to tell his A.D. NOT the police.
It then took 10 days to set up a "meeting" with Keystone Cop Schultz to have start to "investigate" what McQueary WITNESSED!
2002 was NOT the first time JP knew of Sandusky raping boys in his showers.
On page 7 of the Grand Jury Report Joe Paterno testified McQueary informed him "SOMETHING OF A SEXUAL NATURE" happened to a child in his showers!
The term "statutory rape" is used in some legal jurisdictions to refer to sexual activities in which one person is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior.
Different jurisdictions use many different statutory terms for the crime, such as "sexual assault", "rape of a child", "corruption of a minor", etc
Here is the quote from page 7 of the Grand Jury Report.
"Joseph V Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curely, PSU Athletic Director, to his home the very next day, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the showers FONDLING or doing something of a SEXUAL NATURE to a young boy"
If that had been JP's grandson being violated in a "SEXUAL NATURE" he would have called the REAL POLICE!
In 1998 Sandusky was investigated for having sex with boys in PSU football showers. Sandusky admitted to "inappropriate behavior and showering with boys".
After this investigation Joe Paterno fired Sandusky. A 1998 Police Report is on file.
Then in 2002 JP was informed Sandusky was again "doing something of a SEXUAL nature to a young boy" in the showers.
@angryamerican Paterno didn't fire Sandusky. No one could fire him, because Sandusky's charges were dismissed by the DA. He retired instead in 1999. And that is impossible that "victim 2" testified, because that victim has yet to come forward.
he was brought to Joe Paterno's CLOSED PRACTICE in 2007!
From the New York Times:
"One alleged victim told the grand jury that Sandusky brought him to a preseason practice in 2007 - a full five years after Paterno was made aware of the shower rape"
Paterno testified to knowing Sandusky did "something of a SEXUAL nature to a young boy" and he NEVER told the guy to stop bringing boys to his facilities!
Paterno will forever be remembered for turning his back on child sex abuse.
First, M.M. Admitted that he didn't detail exactly what he saw to joePa. joePa went through the proper channels. 2nd, if you ( in any company) see something & you report it if / and when you inquire later about the matter you will be told " we can't discuss personnel matters". That is the policy of every company / institution in the nation. Your job is to wait and answer any & all questions that they have during such investigation. Period. So there was nothing more he COULD do. Third, the polic
He should've done more, under his own admittance. Sandusky will unfortunately drag down Joe's legacy. It will always be tarnished because of what he did and what Joe didn't do.
You do realise,that he followed the letter of the law.And in a very real sense risked his job to report what McQueary saw.He had a falling out with AD Curley about forcing Jerry Sandusky out in 99,and two of the three seasons AFTER he forced Sandusky out were losing ones.
@100crawma I can relate to Joe-Pa fans as I live in close proximity to a college football team school and I can understand hating a coach if they were to be accused of not doing enough to stop something like this but I also feel there is a part of my brain that says if I was for instance a college student who knew my coach was acting that way it would be shocking if I knew that he had made choices which weren't admirable beacuse I would have respected him as being admirable.
@100crawma I mean I can understand that students should absolutely just hate Paterno et al but since they were respected leaders only five seconds prior they might have been in shock more than anything else. I look at their reaction to the firing and I am thinking they probably were more believing that this person who had acted so respectable could be nothing but. Ya know? Maybe I am wrong. If so, tell me. Having a hard time with this one. Don't exactly respect JP etc. anymore 100%
@100crawma and am feeling extremely bad for students affected by JS actions in locker room, but by that same token don't exactly blame students for being at a loss. It isn't a coach of a "sports team that is worshipped thing" imho it is a people so casually say that JS and MM are slimy skummy people that you forget that this was a leader on a campus. Alot of trust lost in a few short minutes. Hoping that PSU can start to re-gain trust of its student body.
@darroooooo I am starting to agree with this logic more and more. What bugs me more than anything else is that Joe-Pa got treated worse for not doing enough after he reported it the first time (if I understand it correctly) but people are cool with him getting fired instead of the person who did things. (sandusky) and McQuery who watched things happen and then did nothing to stop them. :( Why did JP get worse treatment than JS and MM?
@klajcollege
On page 11 of the Grand Jury Report Gary Schultz testified that Paterno forced Sandusky to retire in 99. Sandusky had 2 options: Retire or be publicly fired. Sandusky chose retirement.
QUOTE: "Schultz testified that Sandusky retired when Paterno felt it was time to make a coaching change."
This occurred AFTER the 1998 investigation Sandusky when accused of child rape in PSU showers for the FIRST time. Sandusky admitted to "inappropriate behavior & showering w boys in PSU showers"
angryamerican 1 week ago
@klajcollege
On page 16 of the Grand Jury Report "Victim 4" testified about a secret meeting where Paterno told him he would not be Penn State's next head coach shortly before Sandusky was forced to retire(FIRED).
QUOTE"Victim 4 remembers Sandusky being emotionally upset after having a meeting with Paterno in which Paterno told Sandusky he would not be the next head coach at Penn State and which preceded Sandusky's retirement.Sandusky told Victim 4 not to tell anyone about the meeting"
angryamerican 1 week ago
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Everyone is blinded by fucking college football. Joe Paterno was a fucking piece of shit for not going to the police and everyone who mourns him is a fucking cunt.
progfan71 1 month ago
I hocked a loogie on that statue last night around 1:00 AM it was dripping off of Joe's chin. I did this because I don't support pedophilia.
MarathonVeteran 1 month ago
@MarathonVeteran Yeah, so brave of you to hide under the cover of night and hide behind a false name to admit it. You and the rest of the people spewing ignorance and hate are nothing but trolls and cowards. I will always support JoePa for the many great things he did for my university, and will wear my "Thank You Paterno" shirt with absolute pride.
klajcollege 1 month ago
@klajcollege I'd wear a thank you joe shirt too if I supported pedophilia.
MarathonVeteran 1 month ago
@MarathonVeteran I think you are confusing Joe for Jerry. I mean I guess if you don't bother reading anything other than hateful blogs, I can see the mix up. Jerry was the one who molested the boys. Joe was the one who reported it the incident that came to him to the head of the University Police. That is why Joe was NOT charged with any crime.
klajcollege 1 month ago
@klajcollege Yeah Joe only allowed Jerry to bring kids to Penn State facilities 10+ years after knowledge of the rape...
MarathonVeteran 1 month ago
@MarathonVeteran What are you talking about? Sandusky was barred from campus, and the incident only happened 9 years ago. And Joe isn't the guardian of Penn State, choosing to allow who may enter or not. He doesn't have as much power as people think.
klajcollege 1 month ago
@klajcollege And Joe didn't know of rape, because Mcqueary didn't report it as such to Joe, Mcqueary admitted that in his testimony in December. He basically gave JoePa a G-rated version of what he saw. For all Joe knew, Sandusky was just in the locker showers with a child. Although that is extremely creepy, that is not illegal.
klajcollege 1 month ago
@klajcollege
On page 7 of the Grand Jury Report Joe Paterno TESTIFIED that he was informed by McQueary that Sandusky did "something of a SEXUAL nature to a young boy in the showers".
JP waited until the NEXT DAY to tell his A.D. NOT the police.
It then took 10 days to set up a "meeting" with Keystone Cop Schultz to have start to "investigate" what McQueary WITNESSED!
2002 was NOT the first time JP knew of Sandusky raping boys in his showers.
A 1998 police report is on file.
angryamerican 2 weeks ago
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@klajcollege
On page 7 of the Grand Jury Report Joe Paterno testified McQueary informed him "SOMETHING OF A SEXUAL NATURE" happened to a child in his showers!
The term "statutory rape" is used in some legal jurisdictions to refer to sexual activities in which one person is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior.
Different jurisdictions use many different statutory terms for the crime, such as "sexual assault", "rape of a child", "corruption of a minor", etc
angryamerican 1 week ago
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@klajcollege
Here is the quote from page 7 of the Grand Jury Report.
"Joseph V Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curely, PSU Athletic Director, to his home the very next day, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the showers FONDLING or doing something of a SEXUAL NATURE to a young boy"
If that had been JP's grandson being violated in a "SEXUAL NATURE" he would have called the REAL POLICE!
angryamerican 1 week ago 2
@klajcollege
You are woefully uninformed.
In 1998 Sandusky was investigated for having sex with boys in PSU football showers. Sandusky admitted to "inappropriate behavior and showering with boys".
After this investigation Joe Paterno fired Sandusky. A 1998 Police Report is on file.
Then in 2002 JP was informed Sandusky was again "doing something of a SEXUAL nature to a young boy" in the showers.
In the Grand Jury Report a new victim TESTIFIED
angryamerican 2 weeks ago
@angryamerican Paterno didn't fire Sandusky. No one could fire him, because Sandusky's charges were dismissed by the DA. He retired instead in 1999. And that is impossible that "victim 2" testified, because that victim has yet to come forward.
klajcollege 1 week ago
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he was brought to Joe Paterno's CLOSED PRACTICE in 2007!
From the New York Times:
"One alleged victim told the grand jury that Sandusky brought him to a preseason practice in 2007 - a full five years after Paterno was made aware of the shower rape"
Paterno testified to knowing Sandusky did "something of a SEXUAL nature to a young boy" and he NEVER told the guy to stop bringing boys to his facilities!
Paterno will forever be remembered for turning his back on child sex abuse.
angryamerican 2 weeks ago
First, M.M. Admitted that he didn't detail exactly what he saw to joePa. joePa went through the proper channels. 2nd, if you ( in any company) see something & you report it if / and when you inquire later about the matter you will be told " we can't discuss personnel matters". That is the policy of every company / institution in the nation. Your job is to wait and answer any & all questions that they have during such investigation. Period. So there was nothing more he COULD do. Third, the polic
tazzy1229 1 month ago
He should've done more, under his own admittance. Sandusky will unfortunately drag down Joe's legacy. It will always be tarnished because of what he did and what Joe didn't do.
munkinsmom08 1 month ago
@munkinsmom08 He didn't admit that, dingus. Go reread the quote.
brw147 1 month ago
You do realise,that he followed the letter of the law.And in a very real sense risked his job to report what McQueary saw.He had a falling out with AD Curley about forcing Jerry Sandusky out in 99,and two of the three seasons AFTER he forced Sandusky out were losing ones.
RevPaul1 1 month ago
@RevPaul1 I am only asking why couldnt he call in higher like FBI or some higher court to stop it?
ghosttrain2066 1 month ago
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Joe Paterno, legendary enabler of his friend Jerry Sandusky, serial sex abuser of young boys.
This video literally turns my stomach. "Saint' Paterno could have prevented Sandusky from preying on young boys, but he did next to NOTHING!
He should have been indicted as an accomplice instead of them making a statue of him.
recalcitrist1 1 month ago
"From now on, raped kids have to go tell the statue of Paterno. It'll have the same result."
"And if you get offended by jokes about Paterno, just ignore them. Pretend they aren't happening."
GodBlessTonyDanza 1 month ago
he was the man. Dam
hurley149100 1 month ago
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He's now covering up for pedophiles in heaven. Lots of Catholic priests up there so he's gonna be busy
utubeaccount00 1 month ago
@100crawma..bingo!
lahardcore13 1 month ago
@lahardcore13 sounds like a coverup to me
100crawma 1 month ago
@100crawma I can relate to Joe-Pa fans as I live in close proximity to a college football team school and I can understand hating a coach if they were to be accused of not doing enough to stop something like this but I also feel there is a part of my brain that says if I was for instance a college student who knew my coach was acting that way it would be shocking if I knew that he had made choices which weren't admirable beacuse I would have respected him as being admirable.
AnneLiesveld 1 month ago
@100crawma I mean I can understand that students should absolutely just hate Paterno et al but since they were respected leaders only five seconds prior they might have been in shock more than anything else. I look at their reaction to the firing and I am thinking they probably were more believing that this person who had acted so respectable could be nothing but. Ya know? Maybe I am wrong. If so, tell me. Having a hard time with this one. Don't exactly respect JP etc. anymore 100%
AnneLiesveld 1 month ago
@100crawma and am feeling extremely bad for students affected by JS actions in locker room, but by that same token don't exactly blame students for being at a loss. It isn't a coach of a "sports team that is worshipped thing" imho it is a people so casually say that JS and MM are slimy skummy people that you forget that this was a leader on a campus. Alot of trust lost in a few short minutes. Hoping that PSU can start to re-gain trust of its student body.
AnneLiesveld 1 month ago
Made Me Cry
PURPLEDRANK182 1 month ago
R.I.P. JOE PA....Great man!! and for all the haters... he who has NO sin can cast the first stone!
darroooooo 1 month ago
@darroooooo I am starting to agree with this logic more and more. What bugs me more than anything else is that Joe-Pa got treated worse for not doing enough after he reported it the first time (if I understand it correctly) but people are cool with him getting fired instead of the person who did things. (sandusky) and McQuery who watched things happen and then did nothing to stop them. :( Why did JP get worse treatment than JS and MM?
AnneLiesveld 1 month ago
@darroooooo i may not be sin free,but i can say that i never covered up for a vile child rapist
100crawma 1 month ago
Thank you, Kelley. Hearing Amazing Grace by the Blue Band brought a tear to my eye
pfkhome 1 month ago
A profoundly moving tribute. Thank you.
TomShakely 1 month ago