@FaxModem1 Clark didnt arrive at the kents farm as a baby. Kal El arrived at the kents farm as a baby. If you say , "he was raised and for the longest time knew himself as Clark Kent and then later when his powers manifested his parents told him about the spaceship", then your statement is self-defeating. You just stated that he finds out who he REALLY is later when his adopted parents told him. If his name was lost how does he know it? Bill said the Superman suit are his clothes not his costume
Actually, Bill's script is correct. He was born Superman. The alter ego is Clark Kent. A normal meek guy. He acts like a normal human being but in reality that's not who he really is and wasn't born as. It makes sense and he's using it as an analogy to make a point which is correct. The actor who plays Bill didn't write the script either, by default if the lines were incorrect anyways he wouldn't be wrong and your statement would be a movie critique instead.
@BlueSmoke87 I've got nothing against D Carradine. I love the actor, and he will be missed.
Now, he was born Kal El, he was raised Clark, and he wears Superman. Clark is just a really meek guy in real life. To quote Lois, when asked about her husband. "Come on this is Smallville, he saves the world and then does the dishes." That's who he is, the nice guy who just wants to help.'
As for Bill's point, he should have used Batman, where Bruce is the mask, no matter how old or how fat, he's Batman.
Yeah, Bill is completely wrong here, either that, or he hasn't read a comic book since the 1960s. Superman is the costume, he is really Clark Kent, farmboy from Kansas turned journalist, who only does the Superman thing because he has to help people because he knows he can.
For someone who wears their secret identity as a costume, look at Batman. Bruce Wayne, the drunk and philandering playboy, that is Batman's costume, the real face is what he wears when fighting criminals.
@FaxModem1 You completely missed the point Bill was making. "Superman" was born Kal-El on the planet Krypton and BECAME Clark Kent. A superhero's true identity is that which will exist independent of the other. Batman cannot be Batman without Bruce Wayne. But Superman/Kal-El can be without Clark Kent. He keeps up the Clark Kent alter ego in order to fit in with society.
I can see the point you're trying to make, but you've really got your shit backwards.
@kuriosity89 Keep in mind that Clark arrived at the Kent farm as a baby. Other than his physical abilities, he was raised and for the longest time knew himself as Clark Kent. It was only later, when his powers manifested that his parents told his about the ship locked up in their barn. Kal-El is just his birth name, which was lost when Krypton exploded, and Superman is the costume he wears to help people.
Bill's point would be better explained through Batman, as that type of persona never fades
@FaxModem1 it's not about persona, it's about the identity you were born with, not the identity you choose to portray. Batman wasn't born batman, he was trained and earned money and chose to use it for good. Superman may have the choice to use his powers for good but the main thing is that he was born with powers/ability, they were always with him, he didn't have to learn it. It is in this way that he wears a mask of not who he chooses to be but who he really is. I.E showing he can fly to lois.
It's funny because out of the billions of people in the Marvel universe there is only one Spiderman, and due to the circumstances of Peter's acquisition of power there will always only be one Spiderman, while any Kryptonian that comes to Earth would be a superman.
@TheLune1212 Sure. "anyone can be Batman, Spider-man etc." Provided they're born with billionaire parents that give their kid the good fortune to die, or bit by a radioactive spider and don't die from massive organ failure.
@TheLune1212 actually everybody on Krypton can be Superman if they land on a planet with a yellow sun. -_- Batman and Spider-man are unique on the other hand.
@FaxModem1 Clark didnt arrive at the kents farm as a baby. Kal El arrived at the kents farm as a baby. If you say , "he was raised and for the longest time knew himself as Clark Kent and then later when his powers manifested his parents told him about the spaceship", then your statement is self-defeating. You just stated that he finds out who he REALLY is later when his adopted parents told him. If his name was lost how does he know it? Bill said the Superman suit are his clothes not his costume
awesome27479 1 month ago
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Man, I can see the whole movie just to watch this part.
patusrohus 2 months ago
genial!
casitodoelcielo 5 months ago
Actually, Bill's script is correct. He was born Superman. The alter ego is Clark Kent. A normal meek guy. He acts like a normal human being but in reality that's not who he really is and wasn't born as. It makes sense and he's using it as an analogy to make a point which is correct. The actor who plays Bill didn't write the script either, by default if the lines were incorrect anyways he wouldn't be wrong and your statement would be a movie critique instead.
BlueSmoke87 6 months ago 6
@BlueSmoke87 I've got nothing against D Carradine. I love the actor, and he will be missed.
Now, he was born Kal El, he was raised Clark, and he wears Superman. Clark is just a really meek guy in real life. To quote Lois, when asked about her husband. "Come on this is Smallville, he saves the world and then does the dishes." That's who he is, the nice guy who just wants to help.'
As for Bill's point, he should have used Batman, where Bruce is the mask, no matter how old or how fat, he's Batman.
FaxModem1 4 months ago
Yeah, Bill is completely wrong here, either that, or he hasn't read a comic book since the 1960s. Superman is the costume, he is really Clark Kent, farmboy from Kansas turned journalist, who only does the Superman thing because he has to help people because he knows he can.
For someone who wears their secret identity as a costume, look at Batman. Bruce Wayne, the drunk and philandering playboy, that is Batman's costume, the real face is what he wears when fighting criminals.
FaxModem1 6 months ago
@FaxModem1 You completely missed the point Bill was making. "Superman" was born Kal-El on the planet Krypton and BECAME Clark Kent. A superhero's true identity is that which will exist independent of the other. Batman cannot be Batman without Bruce Wayne. But Superman/Kal-El can be without Clark Kent. He keeps up the Clark Kent alter ego in order to fit in with society.
I can see the point you're trying to make, but you've really got your shit backwards.
kuriosity89 5 months ago
@kuriosity89 Keep in mind that Clark arrived at the Kent farm as a baby. Other than his physical abilities, he was raised and for the longest time knew himself as Clark Kent. It was only later, when his powers manifested that his parents told his about the ship locked up in their barn. Kal-El is just his birth name, which was lost when Krypton exploded, and Superman is the costume he wears to help people.
Bill's point would be better explained through Batman, as that type of persona never fades
FaxModem1 5 months ago
@FaxModem1 it's not about persona, it's about the identity you were born with, not the identity you choose to portray. Batman wasn't born batman, he was trained and earned money and chose to use it for good. Superman may have the choice to use his powers for good but the main thing is that he was born with powers/ability, they were always with him, he didn't have to learn it. It is in this way that he wears a mask of not who he chooses to be but who he really is. I.E showing he can fly to lois.
Bahamute619 3 months ago
@Bahamute619 So, in that same way, brown eyes or hair is the identity you were born with.
FaxModem1 3 months ago
clark kent is how superman views us, weak, insure of himself, he's a coward.
Punkie01 7 months ago
Fuck Superman, Batman and Spider...AQUA MAN ALL DAY!! lolz
BboyKonstant 7 months ago
Every time I see this guy I can't help but think of the freak he was and the way he expired himself.
Madnessonman 7 months ago
It's funny because out of the billions of people in the Marvel universe there is only one Spiderman, and due to the circumstances of Peter's acquisition of power there will always only be one Spiderman, while any Kryptonian that comes to Earth would be a superman.
Thats pretty funny I think.
herolink17 9 months ago 3
@herolink17 what's the funny of that?
elsiberiano2006 8 months ago
Descansa en paz, pequeño saltamontes!
Yamaneko81 9 months ago
Profound.
adryanv 1 year ago
Spider-man Batman.....they're all mantles; anyone can be Batman, Spider-man etc. Yet there is only 1 SUPERMAN.
TheLune1212 1 year ago
@TheLune1212 there are plenty if you count the alternate dimension supermen and the ones from the future
KroliggBloodhoof 10 months ago
@TheLune1212 Sure. "anyone can be Batman, Spider-man etc." Provided they're born with billionaire parents that give their kid the good fortune to die, or bit by a radioactive spider and don't die from massive organ failure.
PrankerDemon 9 months ago
@TheLune1212 actually everybody on Krypton can be Superman if they land on a planet with a yellow sun. -_- Batman and Spider-man are unique on the other hand.
unurautare2 8 months ago
@unurautare2 naa there lame as hell
xxcoltenxx1 5 months ago
@xxcoltenxx1 all of them are lame,they are jewish after all. :<
unurautare2 5 months ago
N spiderman goes to sleep as spiderman.
Chaca05 1 year ago
One of the best Tarrantino-directed scenes in all of cinema...
SickBritKid 1 year ago 20
It never says he wasnt born on Krypton moron
Gortonis 1 year ago 16
@Gortonis actually it does XD
QueenofWolves02 6 months ago
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superman was born on krypton dumbasses
jmaccini 2 years ago
Epic
Davizitoh 2 years ago 5