Olympos' Pentatonic and Archytas' Enharmonic

[braindead666monkey]

blablabla music theory blablabla im a composer blablabla i know more about music than you blablabla 

[djsnw]

lovely composition , as producer i hope to be on that level one day, i love music,keys, drums, its all so addicting, but it seems that i cant make simple sounding melodies like this,this sounds simple while it still are difficult, beautifull notes, im always making compositions sound overloaded, maybe just because i do everything by ear, and feeling and never took musiclessons..or maybe im to perfectionistic, what isnt always bad, i know its strange but any suggestions??? ah well..

[VegetableBasket]

@djsnw 1. Don't compare yourself to other artists. 2. Never be satisfied with your skill. Tell yourself you suck every day and mean it. 3. Work. 4. Listen to music closely, one part at a time. Examine the relationships between instruments and their behaviors. 5. Learn theory if you want to, you definitely don't need it, and in many cases it hinders musicians if they don't learn enough of it. It creates rules that should be broken, but theory students mind them too much to break them. 6. Work.

[xmoebiusaeternax]

@VegetableBasket Absolutely... I always assume I am terrible, despite what anyone might say.  I can always do more and be better...

[highestsettings]

@VegetableBasket See if I thought I was terrible and meant it, I would never find the courage to perform.

[nimrodery]

@VegetableBasket Theory doesn't create rules. Theory always comes after practice in music. It's an attempt to understand the effects of tuning, pitch, scale, timing and many other things. Bach didn't study music theory in order to compose; others wrote theory in an attempt to explain the music of Bach and others. I have never heard of musicians being damaged by too much learning.

[VegetableBasket]

@nimrodery Theory does not create rules in theory, but honestly, in the minds of young students, it gets them thinking certain things they are doing can be wrong or right. That's what I've noticed. People get stuck in the theory mindset and they don't try experimenting or doing things that are "undesirable" because they learned not to in theory. I understand the foundation and purpose of theory. I also think Bach's music is garbage, theory or not. :)

[djsnw]

@VegetableBasket thanks for answering my question, i think its pretty hilarious how i started a whole discussion about.. a question about, me right? haha. thats the problem,im playin keys from my 4years old without ever knowing what i played,its weird but really by doin it by ear,.. but i cant work on beats and compositions,im having to much fun with it all day,but i can tell that im never satisfied :),

[VegetableBasket]

@djsnw If you can look back on your music from the previous year and pretty easily say "I'm a lot better than this now," then you're doing just fine. You might pick up a couple things from learning theory as long as you keep in mind it's just a theory.

[telltree]

Wonderful! Any idea where to get the score? I'm sure I can figure it out by ear, but it would be nice. Thanks for sharing.

[Mazurka1001]

God I hate Kronos Quartet with their jarring crap. Where to find some original ancient Greek scores, not the jarring 'modern' "masters"...

[tomatoe0000]

@Mazurka1001 It is meant to be a study, not a replica. Most ancient greek scores have been long lost, and the ones we have uncovered cannot be understood because the music notation is also lost with time. All that is left of their music is instructions for tuning scales, which Harry Partch did when composing these songs.

[Mazurka1001]

@tomatoe0000 Thank you for your kind elucidation. I must have been in a foul mood, took it out on someone who knows more.

[epessina]

Harry PARTCH: Two Studies on Ancient Greek Scales (arranged and performed by KRONOS QUARTET)

[andronikosb]

The composer is Harry Partch