I had this administered in a procedure this morning. I have never experienced anything quite like that. I was NOWHERE in a matter of a few seconds. Coming awake was like coming out a near-death experience. Weird stuff. "Recreational use" would be a misnomer in this case, unless your idea of recreation is death. The half-life is way too short to be anybody's idea of a "sleep aid." Used for anything other than surgery, I can only see it being used as perhaps a perfect drug for euthanasia.
It was very clearly deliberate MURDER! That's why they did it in the house and with no proper equipment. Poor Michael was pumped FULL of this white poison, he was poisoned. Deliberately!
This stuff is POWERFUL...they gave it to me in the OR and within seconds I was GONE...they told me to take 3 deep breaths...I took two and that is the last I remember.
You don't understand insomnia. It doesn't matter what time you try and go to bed. If you have insomnia you simply just can't get to sleep. MJ would go to bed for like 3 hrs and then wake up suddenly. He had problems staying asleep.
@Alize101586 I've had insomnia,sometimes really badly,and I know exactly what it's like.In those times you really WOULD do anything to get just once a good nights sleep and not wake up too early.I think Michael had a LOT of anxiety,agitation,maybe nightmares.That can also made bad insomnia worse.He had used this stuff before successfully on tours,so obviously this whole thing was deliberately messed up and he was maybe too confused,exhausted and isolated to realize what was going on around him?
if you get propofol, make sure that you have an anesthesiologist (MD) administer it. This drug isn't something that should be administered by a nurse (CRNA)......if something goes wrong, you really want an anesthesiologist present, not a nurse
You're an idiot. A "nurse" in the US requires at minimum a 2 year Associates Degree, A CRNA requires a Bachelors Degree in nursing (4 years) plus another 3-4 years of experience and education to get a Masters Degree and become eligibe to sit the CRNA exam
Actually, Anaesthetic Nurses are specially trained to administer anaesthesics intravenously. I had surgery less than a month ago, and there were three of them there. The director of anaesthesiology, an anaesthesiologist and that nurse.
@goex2f I'm a nurse, and we use it in clinical practice, every day. I do not believe that is necessary an anesthesiologist to administer it. Is intended that registered nurse must be trained in airway management and resuscitation, but in licterature is widely descripted use of propofol by nurse, with a minimal incidence of adverse effects.
@3480817 dr murray apparently gave propofol infusion. the standard heart and oxygen and co2 monitors were not there.he used a pulse oximeter with no alarm. there was no intubation equipment at hand. that is so far below the standard of care for a patient on propofol infusion. that fact alone should convict dr murray.
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Jackson was a rich drug addict, I can't feel for him, he had every opportunity to kick the habit but didn't.
rickcain2320 6 months ago
I had this administered in a procedure this morning. I have never experienced anything quite like that. I was NOWHERE in a matter of a few seconds. Coming awake was like coming out a near-death experience. Weird stuff. "Recreational use" would be a misnomer in this case, unless your idea of recreation is death. The half-life is way too short to be anybody's idea of a "sleep aid." Used for anything other than surgery, I can only see it being used as perhaps a perfect drug for euthanasia.
IDoNotBlameYou 8 months ago 17
It was very clearly deliberate MURDER! That's why they did it in the house and with no proper equipment. Poor Michael was pumped FULL of this white poison, he was poisoned. Deliberately!
Mery533 10 months ago 7
This stuff is POWERFUL...they gave it to me in the OR and within seconds I was GONE...they told me to take 3 deep breaths...I took two and that is the last I remember.
Mobee211 1 year ago
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If this guy had problems with insomnia he should have tried living like a normal human. Early to bed and early to rise is pretty damn simple.
TheTexn 1 year ago
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You don't understand insomnia. It doesn't matter what time you try and go to bed. If you have insomnia you simply just can't get to sleep. MJ would go to bed for like 3 hrs and then wake up suddenly. He had problems staying asleep.
Alize101586 1 year ago 11
@Alize101586 I've had insomnia,sometimes really badly,and I know exactly what it's like.In those times you really WOULD do anything to get just once a good nights sleep and not wake up too early.I think Michael had a LOT of anxiety,agitation,maybe nightmares.That can also made bad insomnia worse.He had used this stuff before successfully on tours,so obviously this whole thing was deliberately messed up and he was maybe too confused,exhausted and isolated to realize what was going on around him?
Mery533 10 months ago
Proof that this drug doesn't make you feel great when you wake - as was reported with Jackson.
ricaramone 1 year ago
oh year... and Dr. Murray is to this day still allowed to work as a doc and even use this drug.. go figure?!?!
Waccao 2 years ago
Anyone who would administer this for recreational use is truly brain dead.
sbrodie911 2 years ago 21
if you get propofol, make sure that you have an anesthesiologist (MD) administer it. This drug isn't something that should be administered by a nurse (CRNA)......if something goes wrong, you really want an anesthesiologist present, not a nurse
goex2f 2 years ago
You're an idiot. A "nurse" in the US requires at minimum a 2 year Associates Degree, A CRNA requires a Bachelors Degree in nursing (4 years) plus another 3-4 years of experience and education to get a Masters Degree and become eligibe to sit the CRNA exam
bravonov 2 years ago
Actually, Anaesthetic Nurses are specially trained to administer anaesthesics intravenously. I had surgery less than a month ago, and there were three of them there. The director of anaesthesiology, an anaesthesiologist and that nurse.
However, I wouldn't call you an idiot. LOL
IslandWorshipper 2 years ago
@goex2f I'm a nurse, and we use it in clinical practice, every day. I do not believe that is necessary an anesthesiologist to administer it. Is intended that registered nurse must be trained in airway management and resuscitation, but in licterature is widely descripted use of propofol by nurse, with a minimal incidence of adverse effects.
3480817 1 year ago
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@3480817 dr murray apparently gave propofol infusion. the standard heart and oxygen and co2 monitors were not there.he used a pulse oximeter with no alarm. there was no intubation equipment at hand. that is so far below the standard of care for a patient on propofol infusion. that fact alone should convict dr murray.
keeyk118b 4 months ago