The revelation that this helmet isn't actually playing the character of the world's joint most boring, talentless and dreary person alongside the Hill88IQ, is truly terrifying.
If this bedroom wide-boy didn't have a big nose and a hat, being so void of self-awareness and mental function, he'd technically qualify as a plant.
That's the only remarkable thing I can say about this: you are a talking vegetable.
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You've gotta be kidding! TheHill88 and Boh3m3 are the big deals on this site? LOL, more proof of aimless people jumping on the bandwagon, monkey see monkey do. Cures for disease, World hunger, World peace, Alternative fuel sources. Not sticking your goon ass face in front of a video camera in hopes someone will notice you and offer you a tampax commercial.
:( I love boh3m3,, I mean.. I love the hill too.. but boh3m3's just sooo much more original and he was my first favorite blogger... the first I ever found.. he's just soooo amazing..
Hahaha. This is just a way for the two to increase their already astounding popularity. Love it! this war has made them both even bigger than before. Hats off to both of you. If they have anything to do with one another, it's likely not romantic, but an effort to jump to the top quickly.
this is a true thing that happens! its not a chain letter! its kinda scary at first but it really works!! paste this message into 3 comments and press ALT F4 and your crushes name will appear on the screen!!! its soo wierd
hahaha dude ur so fuckin GAY...i showed this clip to a bunch of my friends and we all agree...u think ur the shit....but ur not. i cant believe u make this type of stuff and watch other girls videos...hahahahahahaha
I like a lot of the music and interviews here, but I have to say you sound like a tool. And the font is obnoxious to me too. But I'm a jackass, so I shouldn't be talking.
i'm so bored watching this. and how long did that battle intro thing have to last, about 5 seconds if you ask me. and your peace sign PSSHH thing is ridiculous. have a nice day. ::R::
I stopped watching boh3m3 when he started swearing at me. It was terrible. F'you, F'you! I won't take anyone talking at me like that! He has a bad temper. I was battered once in my younger years by a guy like that...never gave him another chance.
I have watched a few of thehill88's vids, and found them somewhat entertaining... but in my wanderings I discovered happyslip - now there is a girl with talent, and you should check out ALL her vids - I have no connection to her but think she is hilarious and very expressive - yeah, I may be off-topic, but maybe happyslip should be competing for votes!
Pretty shocking by how MANY votes TheHill88 won by, I subscribe to them both and (No offense to her) expected her to win by OVER 250 votes. Oh well good job and I can't wait till that comedy.
TheHill88 called me too to vote for her and she was darn right to do so. Fair play to her. She takes a lot of her time to entertain us and i believe she deserved to win. Digitalsoul...happy new year mate. This year is going to be BRILL!!! love ya man!
Good. Boh3m3 was once good, now all he does is bitch about things, mostly the politics of youtube. He sucks now. I never really watch the hill, but I might start now.
Congrats to you Caitlin ...Allthough you dont expected, you earn the win for sure! Dont stop making such entertaining funny and of course serious videos for your fans! If you do this in the next year you would be on top of the suscribers list!
I can't believe Boh3m3 didn't win, yikes. Don't get me wrong I enjoy watching The Hill88 but Boh3m3 is the man! He is still #1 in my book. Funny, talented he never fails to make me laugh. I heart <3 Boh3m3!
oh please. you know they are going to get married so anything hill88 wins boh3m3 wins too. hill88, don't you think it's time for a consolation prize for boh3m3? hmmm? you know a little this a little that? i know he'd appreciate it! wink wink nudge nudge.
Subscribe to both, and prefer BOH3M3, but sex sells, and she is so hot... Love to watch both your vids, keep up the great work, both of you! A special thanks to DiGiTiLsOul! Your vids are awesome too. I'll make it a 3 way tie, great work all of you!
Of course she looks nice but thats in generel not the reason to watch the hill88..its more: fun, entertainment and you know caitlin hill! I think the advertisment helps her a lot to win, but this is Ok.
Eh. Considering the overall population of the voters on youtube, i'm not surprised that Thehill88 won, she's a cute... 16? year old girl, the majority of watchers are 14-19 year old boys.. You do the math.
That logic would work... If it weren't for the fact that abbegirl, Katers17, Brookers, lonelygirl15, LisaNova, littleloca and filthywhore all lost without ever facing off with Caitlin. Sure, one could argue that not all of those are cute, but the same could be said for Caitlin too (though one would be wrong). All of them were beaten by guys or by other girls which then in turn got beaten by a guy. The more logical reason is that she won because people enjoy her vids, nothing else.
oh please. you know they are going to get married so anything hill88 wins boh3m3 wins too. hill88, don't you think it's time for a consolation prize for boh3m3? hmmm? you know a little this a little that? i know he'd appreciate it!
im glad its over lol my stomach was in knots wanting to know who would win, im happy with the results, its to bad u do this bc i wanna see u in a battle, we all know DS would win lol
Fuck i remember this guy from years ago when i first started veiwing youtube
squidatsea 2 years ago
The revelation that this helmet isn't actually playing the character of the world's joint most boring, talentless and dreary person alongside the Hill88IQ, is truly terrifying.
If this bedroom wide-boy didn't have a big nose and a hat, being so void of self-awareness and mental function, he'd technically qualify as a plant.
That's the only remarkable thing I can say about this: you are a talking vegetable.
CorrecterThanYou 3 years ago
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You've gotta be kidding! TheHill88 and Boh3m3 are the big deals on this site? LOL, more proof of aimless people jumping on the bandwagon, monkey see monkey do. Cures for disease, World hunger, World peace, Alternative fuel sources. Not sticking your goon ass face in front of a video camera in hopes someone will notice you and offer you a tampax commercial.
Scottyboy44 4 years ago
:( I love boh3m3,, I mean.. I love the hill too.. but boh3m3's just sooo much more original and he was my first favorite blogger... the first I ever found.. he's just soooo amazing..
evilmuffin 4 years ago
YESS!!!!!!!!!!!....the hill88 all the way!!!!:D
Rafid 4 years ago
ugly guy, cute girl. wow what a touch choice
marc780 4 years ago
it's spelled though and it was a though choice. boh3m3 has been here longer and has more fans, but hill88's are more entusiastic.
marshagreen 4 years ago
They were both good. Its is a hard choice lol.
lduk 4 years ago
Hahaha. This is just a way for the two to increase their already astounding popularity. Love it! this war has made them both even bigger than before. Hats off to both of you. If they have anything to do with one another, it's likely not romantic, but an effort to jump to the top quickly.
downwithleetspeak 4 years ago
What a punk!
Meat45 4 years ago
thehill88 and boh3m3 are in love!!!
jacaka619 4 years ago
this is a true thing that happens! its not a chain letter! its kinda scary at first but it really works!! paste this message into 3 comments and press ALT F4 and your crushes name will appear on the screen!!! its soo wierd
CcOoRrYy102495 4 years ago
boh3m3 you suck compared to hill88
xCutiieex 4 years ago
its funy cause they actually made a video together. check what you write
TheHoodedDemon 4 years ago
So how is this a battle?? It's just a popularity contest.
RehGo 4 years ago
what the hell dude, your white rofl.
aragorn42 4 years ago
Well i disagree, why dont you look at the most subscibed, boh3m3 has more, WTF?
Xtrmn8r123321 4 years ago
Nigger!
dahoco55 4 years ago
douche
g0blin 4 years ago
hahaha dude ur so fuckin GAY...i showed this clip to a bunch of my friends and we all agree...u think ur the shit....but ur not. i cant believe u make this type of stuff and watch other girls videos...hahahahahahaha
jakubgalczynski 4 years ago
A shame they coudn't have both lost, tsk, tsk...
nachodaddy 4 years ago
sorry to say, but a female vs. a male in an internet popularity contest ... just ain't fair.
Nydgill 4 years ago
Chin- straps are da bomb! :)
gucci203 4 years ago
It is kinda hard to vote between Boh3m3 and Hill88
Luige11 4 years ago
I like a lot of the music and interviews here, but I have to say you sound like a tool. And the font is obnoxious to me too. But I'm a jackass, so I shouldn't be talking.
theironmonkey 4 years ago
all it means is the people who watch thehill88 watch u
lilbabycguy1387 4 years ago
It wont play past 1:09
jupiterlight28 4 years ago
Your mozilla got disconnected, give it 5 minutes, then reload
MrsHarington 4 years ago
It won't play past 4:44 =(
Jayder845 4 years ago
this means different now
Ginlah 4 years ago
hey man love the rahzell dj scrib mix
djax45 4 years ago
haha you're funny.
debziii 4 years ago
tHE sHIZNITALBAMSNIPSNAPSNAP.
*ATWNDWN*
verbalassault87 4 years ago
what program did you use to do that 3D square thing with pictures in it turning around
Hypsiphobic 4 years ago
You know what I'm saying?
DarthJebus05 4 years ago
she's disturbed
dawie2006 5 years ago
but she tries too hard
nintrrent2 5 years ago
recount!!!
optiplexe 5 years ago
You're a wanker. 4.44 for something could of been said in less than 60sec. You're one ugly Mutha. Peace and love, man.
Spadonkle 5 years ago
(what exactly is a wanker?)
nodysseus 5 years ago
thehill88 looks like amanda bynes.
wnt2bamommy 5 years ago
who is amanda bynes?
N4mU 5 years ago
he funniest bitch alive
DarthJebus05 4 years ago
and acts like her too
WoWgirl93 5 years ago
No way! (no offence to thehill88), but Amanda is way hotter!
Gaugaukkistonnian 5 years ago
i totally agree with you. i mean just by looking at them they almost sort of look like twins or something.
bleachXfanGX 5 years ago
Boo! Recount!!!! :P
DOG6star 5 years ago
what she win im lost
falconsrock18 5 years ago
YAY!! SHE WON!!
ashleymoria 5 years ago
booooored!!! wasting time...M A N !!!
chustahouse 5 years ago
Hey DigiSoul...I see from this video you use Cyberlink PowerDirector Express. I noticed from the transitions and title effects. Lol...I use it too.
Keep the vids coming, they're very good, and do check out ours when you get the chance!
Peace out,
--LoveCraken
LoveCraken 5 years ago
digital soul.. you're great...
and im waitng for that 'comedy' thing..
kenedaj 5 years ago
back off DS is cool
jipps39 5 years ago
i'm so bored watching this. and how long did that battle intro thing have to last, about 5 seconds if you ask me. and your peace sign PSSHH thing is ridiculous. have a nice day. ::R::
robertrageson 5 years ago
For the record: DiGiTiLsOuL "had a lot of help with counting"
YFilm 5 years ago
YOUR A FAGGOT. BOH3M3 FTW!!!
perryr2002 5 years ago
Is it only me who finds TheHill88 so so so annoying with thos stupid voices and faces??? She needs to snap out of it.
gabbys79 5 years ago
You give white people a bad name.
jisboss 5 years ago
Congrats TheHill88! I campaigned for her! :D
truestepper 5 years ago
the hill88 is awesome, and boh3m3 is too, so it was a fair vote i dont think anyways should talk any crap.
mellowglory 5 years ago
Who cares?
svennybob 5 years ago
youre such a tease :'(
gregorious123 5 years ago
And now for the grand prize.... the hill88 gets to go on a dinner date with boh3m3.
nakikita 5 years ago
Wait, what would've happened if boh3m3 won? Go on a dinner date with TheHill88? Or go on a dinner date with himself?
Hmmm... That not a bad idea... *writes it down with ©*
ZanderSchubert 5 years ago
YEah Razzel!
Snadow 5 years ago
losers
baronshagster 5 years ago
nothing new.... daaaah.... she one hot chick, hey that's why I voted for her :)
AnchormanRonBurgundy 5 years ago
wow a response a 5 year old would make..i knew it'd get a reply to this and i did haha please kindly fuck off with your lame shit
makaveli22022 5 years ago
great vid as always YAY HILL88 boh3m3 is cool but i think hill88 deserved to win
I cant wait til ur comedy skits. good luck enjoy bud
JEFFYjackass 5 years ago
youtube stars? lol ... turn your pc off and get a life
makaveli22022 5 years ago
"See this hat? It's called dollar store hat!"
Haha, that was hilarious!
r9m24 5 years ago
Thehill88 made a video telling her subscribers to vote , that's cheating
njillmatic 5 years ago
that cube effect is great!
wardbingham 5 years ago
Can't wait to see the comedy show.
losetogain 5 years ago
nornna and thehill should battle.
that would be a good one.
Jennrox2007 5 years ago
yeah, what ever!
lonelygirlI5 5 years ago
He even deleted the videos but people won't forget and let it go away. Imagine, asking for money like he is entitled to it. What a bum.
nyguy 5 years ago
what does "thehill88" get for winning?
kiwi282005 5 years ago
O SNAP!
culwin 5 years ago
I stopped watching boh3m3's videos a long time ago when he started asking for money, that was just pathetic.
nyguy 5 years ago
I stopped watching boh3m3 when he started swearing at me. It was terrible. F'you, F'you! I won't take anyone talking at me like that! He has a bad temper. I was battered once in my younger years by a guy like that...never gave him another chance.
Momotaro15 5 years ago
Woo! Way to go Caitlin!
xJTF2x 5 years ago
haha damn, good battle.
Highest 5 years ago
Boh3m3 reminds me of Vin Diesel...You seem cool and a good sport also. Love The Hill but it looked like a good war. Have a good one man.
4u21dr 5 years ago
Woah, she smoked him.
Mandskull 5 years ago
aww to bad....o well boh3m3 still rocks in my mind :)
bunnieswerehere 5 years ago
congratz to thehill88 :)Voted for 88!
Njordx 5 years ago
Hmm im alil confused DigitilSOul, whats the point of this Battle? i mean what are they battling for? whats it all about?
rickysol82 5 years ago
Gee, I can't believe you missed it. It a battle for a 1 year contract with Warner Brothers Studios in Hollywood, CA. Geesh.
Jeultongbukit 5 years ago
Yay Caitlin! Hell, Yay Boh3m3, TOO!
You are BOTH Great, and I hope a LOT of New NICE Viewers find Both of You!
and a BIG *PSSSHHHT!* back at DiGiTiLsOuL!
When Caitlin gets 'Swept Off' to Hollywood, and can't do as Many Vids...
:-(
We Will Remember that it's All Your Fault!
and..."I've Never Done a Character" - Dood, you ARE a Character!
;-P -Peace Out!- -Ali-
bad4alice 5 years ago
no fair ! cuteness will always win in even competitions.
Climbatizecombat 5 years ago
you tryin to say boh3m3 aint cute? :)
DiGiTiLsOuL 5 years ago
I have watched a few of thehill88's vids, and found them somewhat entertaining... but in my wanderings I discovered happyslip - now there is a girl with talent, and you should check out ALL her vids - I have no connection to her but think she is hilarious and very expressive - yeah, I may be off-topic, but maybe happyslip should be competing for votes!
hitempcat 5 years ago
Congrats to Caitlin TheAWESOMEHILL88
blkbishop112 5 years ago
I say we throw a party for the winner. We'll fly her from Sydney to the U.S. on an Oceanic flight. (Hope she doesn't get "Lost").
LouRyder 5 years ago
she did't want to win but she did....
mclaren122 5 years ago
I like both of these people but nobody could beat Hill88 vid of her Borat's Poison and nobody could beat Internet Creepo vid with Ben!
denalynnn 5 years ago
I am so glad thehill88 won, she deserved it
I just wish she didn't do that video asking for votes, I think she could have won without it
EddiesUniverse 5 years ago
Congrats thehill88!!
Characters are Cool and Funny! Good thing I am not!
kiddsock 5 years ago
I mean... not a character... LOL
kiddsock 5 years ago
"what's this? this is a dollar store hat man" haha
congrats to miss hill, though i voted for my man BOH3M3. oh well. happy 2007
JohntyPython434 5 years ago
Hey man what's the song?
mrNHC 5 years ago
Boh3m3 barely makes vid's anymore....he bores me now
BaKes80 5 years ago
Yeah, that probably contributed greatly to TheHill88's win.
thataintchicken 5 years ago
Pretty shocking by how MANY votes TheHill88 won by, I subscribe to them both and (No offense to her) expected her to win by OVER 250 votes. Oh well good job and I can't wait till that comedy.
AnishCarlito 5 years ago
Advertising, man. The Power of Advertising.
Jeultongbukit 5 years ago
How many votes did Katie from KatiesOpinion get?
LouRyder 5 years ago
one penis
Taletale 5 years ago
Well, I voted for her twice, so that would be two.
LouRyder 5 years ago
Dunno dude, you're kind of a superstar in your own right... esp the vids on weight loss and all that, much more of a contribution IMO
numsii 5 years ago
TheHill88 called me too to vote for her and she was darn right to do so. Fair play to her. She takes a lot of her time to entertain us and i believe she deserved to win. Digitalsoul...happy new year mate. This year is going to be BRILL!!! love ya man!
mastud 5 years ago
awesome
eckorex 5 years ago
Well done to thehill88
pontig01 5 years ago
It's because Hill called for her subscribers and Ben didn't. ;-) Anyway, congratz. :)
ridd1e 5 years ago
THEHILL88 FTW
MrMarique 5 years ago
YAY GO THEHILL88
MrMarique 5 years ago
Yea I also believe Boheme is just trying to milk youtube for all its worth, happy someone else won.
FrequentlyFried 5 years ago
Good. Boh3m3 was once good, now all he does is bitch about things, mostly the politics of youtube. He sucks now. I never really watch the hill, but I might start now.
darkain71 5 years ago
yeah!! :D
no9008 5 years ago
rhe hill s the best out ther
fr0stSnow 5 years ago
TheHill88 with 725 votes, Boh3m3 with 442 votes, REAL winners are those who spend their time to count it !!! And THAT'S the spirits of YouTube :))
DARWIM 5 years ago
Although TheHill88 is cool, Boh3m3 is God :(
Tyrael18 5 years ago
congrats thehill88 u deserve it
abusalt89 5 years ago
Congrats!! What are you going to do next? ;)
Trebolshop 5 years ago
excelent! Congrats to TheHill88
Trebolshop 5 years ago
Go the Aussies!!
Well done Caitlin
imjustme85 5 years ago
bah she sucks. boh3m3 should have won
vital8 5 years ago
gratz linlin
lolakx 5 years ago
I'm SOO glad that she won.
I wanted her to.
I don't watch Bohem... or whatever his name is.
I can't believe she won by THAT much though.
mbwx 5 years ago
ok...
NetzDrivers 5 years ago
Congrats to you Caitlin ...Allthough you dont expected, you earn the win for sure! Dont stop making such entertaining funny and of course serious videos for your fans! If you do this in the next year you would be on top of the suscribers list!
BobFoster85 5 years ago
why do u say "pssshh" all the time?
kylberg 5 years ago
Q: "why do u say "pssshh" all the time?"
A: I can't tell you, it's a Secret! ssh.... Q_Q
Seriously?
-- HEY! DIGITIL SOUL! You tell him! (Hey, do I smell a Video?)
bad4alice 5 years ago
Are you planning on stealing my beard? YOU REALIZE THIS MEANS WAR!
BradOFarrell 5 years ago
gratz caitlin.. pshht :D
itay1r 5 years ago
Congrats to the hill, that one's gonna be controversial but I'm pleased for her, plus it'll make her happy!
Looking forward to seeing what you've got for us this year, DS :)
Thiefree 5 years ago
hey i think they both rule, although i must admit i prefer boh3m3, good win, good video.
PointlessroomP 5 years ago
congats.. Hill
wpgpeanut 5 years ago
OMG I AM SO HAPPY SHE WON :D :D
SillyMeh 5 years ago
wow this is defianately unexpected. Congrats to thehill. She not only won but blew him in the water.
treyatl2006 5 years ago
I think it is because she made a video about it and boh3m3 did not. She told all her subscribers to vote.
berserker12389 5 years ago
She told all her subscribers to vote for boh3m3
firegirl65 5 years ago
i get bored in boh3m3's vids, caitlin is just so entertaining, woo she won!!
nulla2230 5 years ago
Congrats to the Hill.
SuicideFriendly 5 years ago
Wow...I'm wickd surprised at the results. Oh well...congrats Hill88.
cheezit83 5 years ago
that sucks cus boh3m3 is way better than the hill88, the most subscribed list shows thi. o well, better go check her out now. good vid
FatMattFilms 5 years ago
I vote for thehill88 boh3m3 sucks
robbylovesanime 5 years ago
Is your thief guy back in the days not a character?
pHaTpAcIfIc 5 years ago
oops you got me :)
DiGiTiLsOuL 5 years ago
omg i got the same hat!!lol i thought boh3m3 was gonna win but i voted for hill
raflim 5 years ago
I can't believe Boh3m3 didn't win, yikes. Don't get me wrong I enjoy watching The Hill88 but Boh3m3 is the man! He is still #1 in my book. Funny, talented he never fails to make me laugh. I heart <3 Boh3m3!
cynlynj 5 years ago
oh please. you know they are going to get married so anything hill88 wins boh3m3 wins too. hill88, don't you think it's time for a consolation prize for boh3m3? hmmm? you know a little this a little that? i know he'd appreciate it! wink wink nudge nudge.
saberwok 5 years ago
omfg i hate her so much shes not even funny, shes a loser, RAH!!!
RippedBushido 5 years ago
Subscribe to both, and prefer BOH3M3, but sex sells, and she is so hot... Love to watch both your vids, keep up the great work, both of you! A special thanks to DiGiTiLsOul! Your vids are awesome too. I'll make it a 3 way tie, great work all of you!
steve10987 5 years ago
Of course she looks nice but thats in generel not the reason to watch the hill88..its more: fun, entertainment and you know caitlin hill! I think the advertisment helps her a lot to win, but this is Ok.
BobFoster85 5 years ago
Eh. Considering the overall population of the voters on youtube, i'm not surprised that Thehill88 won, she's a cute... 16? year old girl, the majority of watchers are 14-19 year old boys.. You do the math.
JoshThaNinja 5 years ago
That logic would work... If it weren't for the fact that abbegirl, Katers17, Brookers, lonelygirl15, LisaNova, littleloca and filthywhore all lost without ever facing off with Caitlin. Sure, one could argue that not all of those are cute, but the same could be said for Caitlin too (though one would be wrong). All of them were beaten by guys or by other girls which then in turn got beaten by a guy. The more logical reason is that she won because people enjoy her vids, nothing else.
Djungelurban 5 years ago
i'm excited for the comedy! great vid!
jenniferb102 5 years ago
boh3m3 is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than TheHill88
tokinjay 5 years ago
hah hah, that's why he got pwned like a noob.
Ocyd 5 years ago
Thanks for doing these digital they are wicked! Both guys ruled, & congrats to thehill88!
manicdee 5 years ago
:) yes. awesome. i love them both.
roxsberry 5 years ago
Wow. 725 to 442. The Little Aussie that Could. I wonder if Williams has an "exclusive?"
Jeultongbukit 5 years ago
finally
Jeultongbukit 5 years ago
The cool thing about that hat is you can take off the happy new years sticker and wear it all year round.
stratocasterz 5 years ago
wow, hill raped boheme!
coolsteevo 5 years ago
I wanna battle crossmack!
katiesopinion 5 years ago
Katie would KILL Ian. Do it.
Jeultongbukit 5 years ago
great vid cant wait for the next one :)
Sexyfatchick 5 years ago
C'mon Aussie C'mon :D TheHill88 is the greatest
PantslessNinja 5 years ago
damn i thought boh3h3 wud win
cottoneyedjoe1992 5 years ago
:D I'm glad she won.
pixieAvery 5 years ago
Wow I cant believe thehill88 beat him by that much :( Caitlen is pretty cool but I unsubscribed from her a long time ago...I still heart you Boh3m3!
cassdawg420 5 years ago
you look hotter with a little scruffy facial hair going on there :P
raindropsandkittens 5 years ago
Woohoo! Yay for the hill88!
kristalyn512 5 years ago
poor boh3m3.
trixiepixiedixie 5 years ago
oh please. you know they are going to get married so anything hill88 wins boh3m3 wins too. hill88, don't you think it's time for a consolation prize for boh3m3? hmmm? you know a little this a little that? i know he'd appreciate it!
saberwok 5 years ago
im glad its over lol my stomach was in knots wanting to know who would win, im happy with the results, its to bad u do this bc i wanna see u in a battle, we all know DS would win lol
Dynamiteskillsx 5 years ago
good job
beebee890 5 years ago
wow talk about an underdog victory, yAy for Caitlin.
Dozzer 5 years ago
wow! dident exp teh hill88.. well she is entertain.. and now I will sub2her :P great vid as allways DigitalSpul:P and have a happy NewYear
LovaBoij 5 years ago
Wow good job! 2007 is gonna be a good year for You Tube. Let's get busy. I hope the best for you and family.
Talljim01 5 years ago
first comment?
CrayonEater 5 years ago