Still, even when women show the 3 qualities you listed a lot of Black men will only commit after a child has been brought into the situation. The same men who call themselves christians are disrespecting their own women and it gets frustrating to see that in our communities. There are women out here who worthy of being respected but this trend of disrespect by Black men is causing everyone us to downgrade our status.
I don't quite see how a man could be classified as a "good man," if he's stringing along one woman, while searching for the next woman to marry. If that man is good, he wouldn't find pleasure in stringing a woman along. He's just as much of a loser.
Many so called successful black women have traded her godliness for so called success. They unlike their mothers or grandmothers loved God and themselves and their bodies. Satan has told them they are the stuff now, and they have lost a joy for homemaking, nurturing and being feminine! They think that a well pay job is a substitution for being virtuous. So thus, they are lead into lonely, bitter, lives and settle for white men who tells her what she want to hear, until he's gotten what he want.
Yes, "ambitious" Black men, that is the key word, ambitious! When women say men are intimated by them, they are talking about the worthless men, NOT about all Black men. And if a man does not want a woman, he should not look around while he stays with the woman who he is with. If he does not want her anymore, just be man and tell her that you want to move on! I hate a man who uses a woman, just break up with her so both of you can move on.
@creditgirl2020 you used two(two!) CELEBRITY relationships as examples of how men behave? Please. Keep in mind, Dedan's referring to ELITE men. Men of God. Seek ye first the Kingdom and all His righteousness, until you do you aren't even RELATIONSHIP material. Marriage? Crawl first.
The number one fact is men & women need to grow up and drop the selfish, ignorant attitudes. No relationship will work when there's competition, selfishness and arrogance. Study the simple truths in the bible, it's pretty clear!
This topic is not limited to Blacks. Most men period, have issues with the woman of the household making more than their male counterparts.
I wouldn't label it as "intimidation" but I think the mindset of most men and how some were raised, ( to be the 'bread-winners" and run the household), and when that role is jeopardized, the dyanmics of the relationship change...Case-N-Point, Sandra Bullock, Reese Witherspoon,all successful women with partners that didn't last.
Take commitment out of the context of relationships and look at the word. Who really wants to commit to anything. Commitment means keeping your word regardless of whatever opportunities arise. Ideally if I could get the benefits of something without making promises, I and anyone who is sane would. No one happily commits. It's usually in contrast to something else. I accept monogamy not because I want to be monogamous but understand that not adhering and demanding it can bite me in the butt...
WHAT DOES commitment have to do with being black now? COME ON Brother... say MEN PLEASE... FOR THE SAKE OF .... smh i have a man in my life that is black but HE IS COMMITTED TO ME.. & me vice versa sooooo?? lol UGH. ANYONE CAN COMMIT TO ANYONE IF THEY TRULY CHOOSE TO..SIMPLE AS THAT, This is somewhat B/S YALL.. W/E RACE IT IS DO not matter, if someone isn't worth committing to it will NOT HAPPEN.
these are the reasons men shouldnt commit - false rape, how domestic violence cases aer enforced, divorce, custody and how all these things are biased against men to the point where he is at the mercy and if she get mad or is vindicative for whatever reason u can screw him big. the anti-male attitudes of many chicks dont help either. the laws on the books must change b4 the can be real change. i expect it to get worse and worse b4 it gets any better. comittment is 2 risky. sad but true.
Why is it that Black men will date a Black woman forEVER but when they get with a White woman they're in a hurry to get married? I'm curious about that.
@Skoopalicious This is from a Black man with a white wife, so don't shoot me - I'm only the messenger. He says in Black culture more women raise a family without the father, and consequently girls grow up seeing women end up being some man's baby-momma - it's expected. But in white culture single moms are the minority. White kids come out of High School and get married - it's expected! Therefore White women are less likely to accept the life of the baby momma - it's a ring or nothing.
@carolineislands Actually young white girls are getting pregnant more often than women of other races, I learned that from a sociologist who teaches a college course...And women in general aren't getting married like they use to, government based studies have shown that
@thickjai18 Perhaps they are getting pregnant more often but most of them are married. That's the difference. And they have the babies WAY more often. Almost half of African American pregnancies end in abortion in the U.S.. Maybe that's because Black women are so much less likely to ever see a ring on their finger. So sad....
@carolineislands LOL women in general aren't getting married as much, you might not want to hear it but thats the truth........................The rate of marriages are terrible now, according to governmental studies anyways.................A lot more women in every race are shacking up instead, but yeah I get what your saying and it is sad. And many women in general are having kids out of wed lock...smh ridiculous huh lol
SO HOW IS A MAN THAT, STRINGS A WOMAN ALONG FOR 2 TO 6 YEARS KNOWING THAT SHE IS NOT THE ONE HE WANTS TO PUT A RING ON, A GOOD MAN. A GOOD MAN WILL LEAVE THE FIRST 4 MONTH TO A YEAR WHEN HE SEES THIS WOMAN IS NOT WIFY MATERIAL.
Black men aren't intimidated by committment. We don't wanna commit b/c marriage laws in this country take favor in women who divorce by enforcing alimony and granting the mother custody of children while the father pays child support and has a slim # of hours of visitation each month.
Thanks to feminists who put anti-male laws in this country, marriage is much of a high-risk stake rather than a basic foundation of family and society.
I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH DEVINE5188 TO A CERTAIN EXTENT I FEEL THAT IS BLACK MAN ON THE VIDEO IS NOT UPLIFTING BLACK WOMEN HE IS DEGRADING US WE ARE JUST AS GOOD AS ANY OTHER RACE. I FEEL THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE ENDURED SO MUCH IN LIFE WHERE WE MAY WALK AROUND WITH A ATTITUDE OR WE MAY BE UPSET WITH OUR JOBS WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET POSITIONS WITH COMPANIES OTHER RACES DON'T !! THE POINT IS WE DON'T NEED BLACK MEN BRINGING US DOWN AND CALLING US NAMES THERE IS NO UNITY
@kcarnard I don't see it like that. He doesn't seem angry, hostile, calling ya'll disrespectful names and the sort. Many women can't take correction and that's why the circle and cycle will continue on and on. Many women know this but feels thst they have to say something just becasue. Sistas should know by now that they shouldn't want to to the same things that other women from other races do regardless. Ya'll alreayd know they are going to be called beautiful no matter what.
Alright if you really believe what you're saying, and don't want to give a chance to Self Reflection, then it is what it is!! But First of all I defend the elite black men out there. I don't support the dead beats who by the way are not Elite men!!! Key word ELITE. SO may be you should really have an open mind and really listen to what this Elite man is saying. Now about the name calling, what do think brought that on? If you act like a "ho" then you will be called one.
@yvienow23 HA... elite he always calls black women Gold diggers and freaks and he is elite...lol puh-lease he is trying to get a piece of the 600 million spending power of this group of gold diggers and freaks funny how black women have that much spending power but black men are never mentioned in those type of statistics...hmmmm wonder why...this "elite" man needs to put his energy where it belongs which is helping his fellow brothers become decent men in society as opposed to mental cases
This man is insulting AA women just like all the others who claim to be helping but just want to make a quick buck...it's unfortunate that people like this man are quick to worship other races (if you listen to his radio show he always calls black women gold diggers and says other races are not) he is just another bitter black man trying to find success tearing down black women...but it won't work statistics speak for themselves...Black women are doing what they have to...Black Men...EPIC FAIL
Devine you have it all backwards. You need to sit down an think about what you say!!! what kind of person generalizes a group of people. So I guess we should say all Germans are Nazis or all Arabs are terrorists??? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds!!! I love my Black men and there are Great black men out there looking for Great black women. U unfortunately are not so great. Whatever it is LET IT GO.
@yvienow23 Generalizes a group of people hmmm all I have to do is watch you tube or talk to one of many of my friends who's baby daddy just left her because he does not care about his children or getting a job or anything besides what's in his pants. You sit up and defend these men who walk out on you, worship white women, call you ugly and fat in so many words, call you hoes and everything under the sun, and you still think good black men exist...tsk tsk tsk
Do not buy his wack CD find races of men who are family oriented American Black men will never be they are bums and not worth your time...I don't think a real men exist in the black race.
@Devine5188 hi just because a blackman played you in the past, it doesn't mean that you should go out on blackmen like that. remember your father is black miss devine5188 you are emotionally unavailable
@003bone Oh please my daddy left me just like yours probably left you and 95% of other black women...so much for good black men out there. Please get a clue the black race will never prevail the main reason being the extremely weak men ...the black man must be extinguished they are good for nothing. God sees his actions and will take care of it. Maybe that's why the races are mixing at alarming numbers to get rid of what's just wasting space
There r some black men who can't commit because they don't know who they r or where they originated from. Some black men can't deal with fear, rejections. Most of them r not in touch with who they really r. KNOW THYSELF!!
@327pir this is very true my husband is nigerian and very confident... He is often mistaken for being arrogant... mainly, black say this or imply... It's not true, he just has a healthy self image I love that about him!!
@whtpumkin You are to be applauded for recognizing that in a man instead of just falsly transferring that quality to the real arrogance of the thug or "bad boy". This is not just a 'black" thing. I am white and I see the same. The legitmatly sucessful Man, is often ignored or denigrated in favor of the thug.While at the same time many women who are self invovled in their careers see men who are not over awed by their sucess as jealous are some how "threatened"
Still, even when women show the 3 qualities you listed a lot of Black men will only commit after a child has been brought into the situation. The same men who call themselves christians are disrespecting their own women and it gets frustrating to see that in our communities. There are women out here who worthy of being respected but this trend of disrespect by Black men is causing everyone us to downgrade our status.
AsiaFields 1 week ago
Real!
scretching08 1 month ago
I don't quite see how a man could be classified as a "good man," if he's stringing along one woman, while searching for the next woman to marry. If that man is good, he wouldn't find pleasure in stringing a woman along. He's just as much of a loser.
divafabulista 2 months ago 2
Many so called successful black women have traded her godliness for so called success. They unlike their mothers or grandmothers loved God and themselves and their bodies. Satan has told them they are the stuff now, and they have lost a joy for homemaking, nurturing and being feminine! They think that a well pay job is a substitution for being virtuous. So thus, they are lead into lonely, bitter, lives and settle for white men who tells her what she want to hear, until he's gotten what he want.
andre12593 3 months ago
@andre12593 Times have changed. More women are going to work. It's hard to raise children with one income only.
dearestjen 4 weeks ago
Yes, "ambitious" Black men, that is the key word, ambitious! When women say men are intimated by them, they are talking about the worthless men, NOT about all Black men. And if a man does not want a woman, he should not look around while he stays with the woman who he is with. If he does not want her anymore, just be man and tell her that you want to move on! I hate a man who uses a woman, just break up with her so both of you can move on.
alphaacad1 3 months ago 2
@creditgirl2020 you used two(two!) CELEBRITY relationships as examples of how men behave? Please. Keep in mind, Dedan's referring to ELITE men. Men of God. Seek ye first the Kingdom and all His righteousness, until you do you aren't even RELATIONSHIP material. Marriage? Crawl first.
gcornelius308 3 months ago
The number one fact is men & women need to grow up and drop the selfish, ignorant attitudes. No relationship will work when there's competition, selfishness and arrogance. Study the simple truths in the bible, it's pretty clear!
Papasean7 4 months ago
This topic is not limited to Blacks. Most men period, have issues with the woman of the household making more than their male counterparts.
I wouldn't label it as "intimidation" but I think the mindset of most men and how some were raised, ( to be the 'bread-winners" and run the household), and when that role is jeopardized, the dyanmics of the relationship change...Case-N-Point, Sandra Bullock, Reese Witherspoon,all successful women with partners that didn't last.
Creditgirl2020 4 months ago 2
VERY GOOD!!!!!!" THE BLAME GAME" YU DID SHED LIGHT!
hulkandsuperman 6 months ago
anybody can be intimidated... no matter what race or gender.
LuhhNayNay 6 months ago
Take commitment out of the context of relationships and look at the word. Who really wants to commit to anything. Commitment means keeping your word regardless of whatever opportunities arise. Ideally if I could get the benefits of something without making promises, I and anyone who is sane would. No one happily commits. It's usually in contrast to something else. I accept monogamy not because I want to be monogamous but understand that not adhering and demanding it can bite me in the butt...
FitnessGuru1988 7 months ago
WHAT DOES commitment have to do with being black now? COME ON Brother... say MEN PLEASE... FOR THE SAKE OF .... smh i have a man in my life that is black but HE IS COMMITTED TO ME.. & me vice versa sooooo?? lol UGH. ANYONE CAN COMMIT TO ANYONE IF THEY TRULY CHOOSE TO..SIMPLE AS THAT, This is somewhat B/S YALL.. W/E RACE IT IS DO not matter, if someone isn't worth committing to it will NOT HAPPEN.
licialicous 8 months ago
these are the reasons men shouldnt commit - false rape, how domestic violence cases aer enforced, divorce, custody and how all these things are biased against men to the point where he is at the mercy and if she get mad or is vindicative for whatever reason u can screw him big. the anti-male attitudes of many chicks dont help either. the laws on the books must change b4 the can be real change. i expect it to get worse and worse b4 it gets any better. comittment is 2 risky. sad but true.
mykole84 8 months ago
Why is it that Black men will date a Black woman forEVER but when they get with a White woman they're in a hurry to get married? I'm curious about that.
carolineislands 8 months ago
@carolineislands i AGREE. when you find out let me know!
Skoopalicious 8 months ago
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carolineislands 8 months ago
@Skoopalicious This is from a Black man with a white wife, so don't shoot me - I'm only the messenger. He says in Black culture more women raise a family without the father, and consequently girls grow up seeing women end up being some man's baby-momma - it's expected. But in white culture single moms are the minority. White kids come out of High School and get married - it's expected! Therefore White women are less likely to accept the life of the baby momma - it's a ring or nothing.
carolineislands 8 months ago
@carolineislands Actually young white girls are getting pregnant more often than women of other races, I learned that from a sociologist who teaches a college course...And women in general aren't getting married like they use to, government based studies have shown that
thickjai18 7 months ago
@thickjai18 Perhaps they are getting pregnant more often but most of them are married. That's the difference. And they have the babies WAY more often. Almost half of African American pregnancies end in abortion in the U.S.. Maybe that's because Black women are so much less likely to ever see a ring on their finger. So sad....
carolineislands 7 months ago
@carolineislands LOL women in general aren't getting married as much, you might not want to hear it but thats the truth........................The rate of marriages are terrible now, according to governmental studies anyways.................A lot more women in every race are shacking up instead, but yeah I get what your saying and it is sad. And many women in general are having kids out of wed lock...smh ridiculous huh lol
thickjai18 7 months ago
A lot of black men don't commit, because they feel like they are rare breed and that they can get any race of women with a lot of money.
blessedlady7 11 months ago
@blessedlady7 i wish i could see their faces when they realized that they were wrong- lol
njose528 7 months ago
Great Point !!
gtyme125 1 year ago
SO HOW IS A MAN THAT, STRINGS A WOMAN ALONG FOR 2 TO 6 YEARS KNOWING THAT SHE IS NOT THE ONE HE WANTS TO PUT A RING ON, A GOOD MAN. A GOOD MAN WILL LEAVE THE FIRST 4 MONTH TO A YEAR WHEN HE SEES THIS WOMAN IS NOT WIFY MATERIAL.
mimilooker 1 year ago
Black men aren't intimidated by committment. We don't wanna commit b/c marriage laws in this country take favor in women who divorce by enforcing alimony and granting the mother custody of children while the father pays child support and has a slim # of hours of visitation each month.
Thanks to feminists who put anti-male laws in this country, marriage is much of a high-risk stake rather than a basic foundation of family and society.
ApollosInsight 1 year ago 9
I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH DEVINE5188 TO A CERTAIN EXTENT I FEEL THAT IS BLACK MAN ON THE VIDEO IS NOT UPLIFTING BLACK WOMEN HE IS DEGRADING US WE ARE JUST AS GOOD AS ANY OTHER RACE. I FEEL THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE ENDURED SO MUCH IN LIFE WHERE WE MAY WALK AROUND WITH A ATTITUDE OR WE MAY BE UPSET WITH OUR JOBS WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET POSITIONS WITH COMPANIES OTHER RACES DON'T !! THE POINT IS WE DON'T NEED BLACK MEN BRINGING US DOWN AND CALLING US NAMES THERE IS NO UNITY
kcarnard 1 year ago
@kcarnard I don't see it like that. He doesn't seem angry, hostile, calling ya'll disrespectful names and the sort. Many women can't take correction and that's why the circle and cycle will continue on and on. Many women know this but feels thst they have to say something just becasue. Sistas should know by now that they shouldn't want to to the same things that other women from other races do regardless. Ya'll alreayd know they are going to be called beautiful no matter what.
jatamode 11 months ago
Alright if you really believe what you're saying, and don't want to give a chance to Self Reflection, then it is what it is!! But First of all I defend the elite black men out there. I don't support the dead beats who by the way are not Elite men!!! Key word ELITE. SO may be you should really have an open mind and really listen to what this Elite man is saying. Now about the name calling, what do think brought that on? If you act like a "ho" then you will be called one.
yvienow23 1 year ago
@yvienow23 HA... elite he always calls black women Gold diggers and freaks and he is elite...lol puh-lease he is trying to get a piece of the 600 million spending power of this group of gold diggers and freaks funny how black women have that much spending power but black men are never mentioned in those type of statistics...hmmmm wonder why...this "elite" man needs to put his energy where it belongs which is helping his fellow brothers become decent men in society as opposed to mental cases
Devine5188 1 year ago
This man is insulting AA women just like all the others who claim to be helping but just want to make a quick buck...it's unfortunate that people like this man are quick to worship other races (if you listen to his radio show he always calls black women gold diggers and says other races are not) he is just another bitter black man trying to find success tearing down black women...but it won't work statistics speak for themselves...Black women are doing what they have to...Black Men...EPIC FAIL
Devine5188 1 year ago
Devine you have it all backwards. You need to sit down an think about what you say!!! what kind of person generalizes a group of people. So I guess we should say all Germans are Nazis or all Arabs are terrorists??? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds!!! I love my Black men and there are Great black men out there looking for Great black women. U unfortunately are not so great. Whatever it is LET IT GO.
yvienow23 1 year ago
@yvienow23 Generalizes a group of people hmmm all I have to do is watch you tube or talk to one of many of my friends who's baby daddy just left her because he does not care about his children or getting a job or anything besides what's in his pants. You sit up and defend these men who walk out on you, worship white women, call you ugly and fat in so many words, call you hoes and everything under the sun, and you still think good black men exist...tsk tsk tsk
Devine5188 1 year ago
Do not buy his wack CD find races of men who are family oriented American Black men will never be they are bums and not worth your time...I don't think a real men exist in the black race.
Devine5188 1 year ago
@Devine5188 hi just because a blackman played you in the past, it doesn't mean that you should go out on blackmen like that. remember your father is black miss devine5188 you are emotionally unavailable
003bone 1 year ago
@003bone Oh please my daddy left me just like yours probably left you and 95% of other black women...so much for good black men out there. Please get a clue the black race will never prevail the main reason being the extremely weak men ...the black man must be extinguished they are good for nothing. God sees his actions and will take care of it. Maybe that's why the races are mixing at alarming numbers to get rid of what's just wasting space
Devine5188 1 year ago
@003bone A black man never played me sweetie I would never have it.
Devine5188 1 year ago
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TheKimmey7 1 year ago
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TheKimmey7 1 year ago
There r some black men who can't commit because they don't know who they r or where they originated from. Some black men can't deal with fear, rejections. Most of them r not in touch with who they really r. KNOW THYSELF!!
TheKimmey7 1 year ago
Men are intimidated by confidence...not success. My confidence comes off as cocky to some or arrogant. I'm neither.
NEENAHFOX 1 year ago
@NEENAHFOX Could not be more wrong.
327pir 1 year ago
@327pir It's certainly one reason combined with other reasons...so, I think that confidence is a factor
NEENAHFOX 1 year ago
@NEENAHFOX Most black females do not really regognise confiende and equate it with arrogance
327pir 1 year ago
@327pir this is very true my husband is nigerian and very confident... He is often mistaken for being arrogant... mainly, black say this or imply... It's not true, he just has a healthy self image I love that about him!!
whtpumkin 1 year ago
@327pir I am a black american woman BTW...
whtpumkin 1 year ago
@whtpumkin You are to be applauded for recognizing that in a man instead of just falsly transferring that quality to the real arrogance of the thug or "bad boy". This is not just a 'black" thing. I am white and I see the same. The legitmatly sucessful Man, is often ignored or denigrated in favor of the thug.While at the same time many women who are self invovled in their careers see men who are not over awed by their sucess as jealous are some how "threatened"
327pir 1 year ago
some men won't be intimidated by a successful person and some may. I don't agree that this philosophy is limited to a particular women.
TheVixenJournalist 1 year ago