as an linguistic, i can tell you that what we know of the kurdish is NOT related to median, in fact the medians and the corduyen were distinct from begining, and what you call kurdish today, is not one people or one language, it composes many related(and unrelated) people and laguages that have been absorbed.median is closer to old persian than kurdish. all this is nonsens about creating history out of what is not, shows the lack of identity. the german musik says it all
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam. He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws
ASSYRIAN QATOLA BROTHER DONT CRY, WE HAVENT STOLEN YOUR COUNTRY,, YOUR COUNTRY IS SYRRYA LAND AND YOU HAVE CROSSED OVER THE RIVER MATE.WE SAVED YOU AS YOU WERE HIDDEN IN OUR MOUNTAIN BECAUSE OF CHRISTYANITY AND NOW U TURNING AS UNFAITHFUL DOG
The Medes are sometimes considered by Kurdish nationalists to be one of the ancestors of the Kurds based on linguistic and geographic claims.[26] This conjecture is, however, challenged by other scholars who consider central Iranian dialects, mainly those of Kashan area and Tati as the only direct offshoots of Median language.[27][28] .[29] Moreover linguistic evidence shows the ancestor of the Kurds lived to the south of the Medes and departed from the South to the North..
Vladimir Minorsky suggested that the Medes who widely inhabited the land where currently the Kurds, are the majority in, are likely to be the forefathers of the modern Kurds, also on the basis of historical and lingustic evidence that he gathered. John Limbert says that all Kurdish dialects have maintained the basic characteristics of Kurdish despite the wide dispersion of the tribes. Furthermore Gernot Windfuhr identified Kurdish dialects as Parthian, albeit with Median.
@xCutexxAngelx i did not expect such filthy lies from a girl..if that is what you are.. these days the kurds are not trustworthy..you know with all those arrangements guns and finance by USA.. this backstabbing culture is not one of the Sassanian.. First of all median tribes consisted of 6 tribes.. Busae, the Paretaceni, the Struchates, the Arizanti, the Budii, and the Magi. stated by greek and iranian scolars. 4 of them are proven iranian etymology. also do not dare claim King Ardashir
the aryan language doesn't originate from central asia, it originates from caucasus. thats where aryans come from. also haurmai language is the oldest Kurdish language and it doesn't come from any indo-european languages like sorani and badini, it originates from the zagroz mountains. common words are not only present between Kurdish language with farsi and other neighboring languages, its also present between farsi and english. e.g. name- nam, mother-moder...etc
Although I did not find some of the claims, propositions and conclusions in this video to be entirely convincing (as they lack decisive, academic support), it was ultimately very entertaining and thoroughly interesting.
@gloomyoutlook how can u if u dont know KURDISH u wont understand the underlay thats wy u are not convinced u have to KNOW kurdi to understand but if u look again the part og avesta u will see that still today modern europaen use same WORDS or similar sounding its not ur mistake its our KURDS mistake that we trusted the turks and were cut off from our RICH and very deep reaching l'history greatings
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Everything was Kurdish .. LOL
Kurdish is a dialect of Indo Iranian languages ... claiming Avesta is Kurdish is like saying that Assyrians are the same as Arabs or Iranians are Germans ... bull ...
IT is maybe not nice to hear it your self. Bud if your goin to look at the yezidi's they all talk kurdish, the Kurdish Sun on hour flag is something what is Jezidi. it doesnt matter we are not talkin here about other Nations. We are talkin about the History of Kurdistan. aNd let dont be forgotten like it was for almost 100 years the struggle! We wil not forget what hour history gaved us, we are only talkin about kurdistan
hi im sorry, im kurdish and correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you forget the dialect badini? thats what i speak... or educate me on what its close to at least
@suisseTKD Kirmanji is not a separate dialect from Badini. Kirmanj is the Turkish word for Kurd. the Kurds of Turkey are also Badini like the people of Duhk. they also speak Badini dialect. the Kurds of northern Kurdistan are Badini, the Kurds of southern Kurdistan are Sorani. actually Sorani is also a word which describes the principality of Soran which ruled southern Kurdistan during the 17th and 18th century. e.g. the people of sulaymany are citizens of the principality of Baban not Soran.
@TheScienceofnature the people of southern Kurdistan all speak the same dialect which is known as Sorani, however Sorani is not a dialect, or at least it wasn't used to describe the language, Sorani is the name of the Principality of Soran. southern Kurdistan has had many Principalities such as Soran, Baban, Mukryan...etc Soran and Baban even went to war at some point in history, they both spoke the same dialect and the same language. it was more like the PUK and PDK today.
@TheScienceofnature -.- Kurmanci is a turkish word? Oo haha Don't make me laugh! Kur - Mandj = Son of Med. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with tirk!!!
Kurmanci is the generic term of some dialekts. Shikakî, Badînî, and some others belongs to Kurmanci!
Please go read in Wikipedia under en.wikipedia kurmanji
@suisseTKD you are right about that. that was a very foul mistake on my part, my apologies friend. how could i be so foolish to think that the word which Kurds call themselves by comes from Turk. you are 100% correct about the fact that it means son of Media. or at least of the median tribe of magi, Kur is a very obvious name in Kurdish language, it means son. and magi is a well known Muslim tribe, in the movie Mummy they are falsely labeled as Saracen or an arab tribe who are gods warriors.
@suisseTKD the magi are one of the most famous tribes of the medean people, Kurdish people. one of the three wise man who are the subject of the Biblical story of nativity is thought to be from the magi tribe. of course both three wise man were Kurds, from different Kurdish tribes. but specifically one of them was a magi.
@janetuyi, Badinan or Behdinan is not a dialect, its a region whos dielct falls in Kurmanci. Badini or Behdini is a branch of Kurmanci. Kurmanci is a main dialect that consists of Behdini, Shikaki, Botani, hekari. All these are branches of Kurmanci. I am from duhok too, but we are soo wrong when we say we speak behdini, because there is no such thing as behdini no such dialect. Its Kurmanci.
@janetuyi badini is kurmanji subdialect. I dont understand sorani but badini very well. kurmanji varies very much in pronouncing, different provinces speak in different tempo's and accent of kurmanji.
Badini and Kurmanji are different names for the same dialect, so a Kurd from Amed would say Barzani speaks Kurmanji, while a Kurd from Hewler would say he speaks Badini.
I hope someday Iranian would have a real democracy and the Kurds and all other nations of GREAT IRAN could live in peace and BE LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE USED TO BE 1000s of years!
The orgin of the kurds has always been a vague and sketchy one till now .There is overwhelming evidence and many historians are agreeing about 4500B.C. a turkoman got really drunk and fucked a horse giving birth to the kurd.
KURDS YEAH SO NEXT TIME INCLUDE BADINI!
wwwlil 1 month ago
Could the "Goti" be the original Goths??
shoshana53 3 months ago
as an linguistic, i can tell you that what we know of the kurdish is NOT related to median, in fact the medians and the corduyen were distinct from begining, and what you call kurdish today, is not one people or one language, it composes many related(and unrelated) people and laguages that have been absorbed.median is closer to old persian than kurdish. all this is nonsens about creating history out of what is not, shows the lack of identity. the german musik says it all
drujmago 4 months ago
@drujmago A linguistic wouldn't say that a people shows a lack of identity
TheKarashy 1 month ago
the map is wrong arya ws in india..
HungarianHistory 5 months ago
the ancient kurds werent aryans! iranicized later...
HungarianHistory 5 months ago
hungarian chronicles saved the right kurd past.
HungarianHistory 5 months ago
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Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam. He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws
goran21715 7 months ago
ASSYRIAN QATOLA BROTHER DONT CRY, WE HAVENT STOLEN YOUR COUNTRY,, YOUR COUNTRY IS SYRRYA LAND AND YOU HAVE CROSSED OVER THE RIVER MATE.WE SAVED YOU AS YOU WERE HIDDEN IN OUR MOUNTAIN BECAUSE OF CHRISTYANITY AND NOW U TURNING AS UNFAITHFUL DOG
badrawjasan 7 months ago
Fucking kurdish gypsies who have stolen my country !
AssyrianQatola 8 months ago
@AssyrianQatola
1. Kurds aren't nomadic, therefor - not gypsies.
2. Your just pissed of beacuse Cyaxares fucked you Assyrians over, and revenged his father, Phraortes ;)
3. I bet you're a blind nationalist, if not. Then you should know that one of the PKK founders was of Assyrian origin :P
Bokan995 6 months ago
The Medes are sometimes considered by Kurdish nationalists to be one of the ancestors of the Kurds based on linguistic and geographic claims.[26] This conjecture is, however, challenged by other scholars who consider central Iranian dialects, mainly those of Kashan area and Tati as the only direct offshoots of Median language.[27][28] .[29] Moreover linguistic evidence shows the ancestor of the Kurds lived to the south of the Medes and departed from the South to the North..
BEYADEHVATAN 11 months ago
@BEYADEHVATAN
Vladimir Minorsky suggested that the Medes who widely inhabited the land where currently the Kurds, are the majority in, are likely to be the forefathers of the modern Kurds, also on the basis of historical and lingustic evidence that he gathered. John Limbert says that all Kurdish dialects have maintained the basic characteristics of Kurdish despite the wide dispersion of the tribes. Furthermore Gernot Windfuhr identified Kurdish dialects as Parthian, albeit with Median.
Bokan995 6 months ago
@xCutexxAngelx i did not expect such filthy lies from a girl..if that is what you are.. these days the kurds are not trustworthy..you know with all those arrangements guns and finance by USA.. this backstabbing culture is not one of the Sassanian.. First of all median tribes consisted of 6 tribes.. Busae, the Paretaceni, the Struchates, the Arizanti, the Budii, and the Magi. stated by greek and iranian scolars. 4 of them are proven iranian etymology. also do not dare claim King Ardashir
BEYADEHVATAN 11 months ago
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Kurmanjiim 1 year ago
I am Persian but I hope one day the Kurds re-establish their land and reclaim their Zoroastrian faith!!!!
Jhaub420 1 year ago 2
the aryan language doesn't originate from central asia, it originates from caucasus. thats where aryans come from. also haurmai language is the oldest Kurdish language and it doesn't come from any indo-european languages like sorani and badini, it originates from the zagroz mountains. common words are not only present between Kurdish language with farsi and other neighboring languages, its also present between farsi and english. e.g. name- nam, mother-moder...etc
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
@TheScienceofnature true
KurdZelalupak1 1 year ago
@TheScienceofnature South Russia, around the black sea ;)
Sarezh998 1 year ago
Although I did not find some of the claims, propositions and conclusions in this video to be entirely convincing (as they lack decisive, academic support), it was ultimately very entertaining and thoroughly interesting.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
@gloomyoutlook how can u if u dont know KURDISH u wont understand the underlay thats wy u are not convinced u have to KNOW kurdi to understand but if u look again the part og avesta u will see that still today modern europaen use same WORDS or similar sounding its not ur mistake its our KURDS mistake that we trusted the turks and were cut off from our RICH and very deep reaching l'history greatings
KurdZelalupak1 1 year ago
dast xosh..*****
brusk2 2 years ago
Very interesting video. thanks for sharing...
stildiko 2 years ago 3
biji kurdistan
kurd 4 ever
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شعب دعائمه الجمـــاجم والــدمُ
تـتـحـطـم الدنـيا ولا يتحـَطـٌـمُ
xxKURD3xx 2 years ago
bijiiiiii kurd o kurdistan <3<3<3
TheKurdis 2 years ago
Biji Kurdistaaaannnnnn
kopf112 2 years ago
Dest xwes gelek rinde videya te heval.Her biji .
BIJI KURD u KURDISTAN
Serkeftine j te re dxazim
Aranbabo 2 years ago
5******
Dest xwes be
Biji Med-Kurd u Kurdistan
ThePesmerge 2 years ago
5*****
Long live Meder (Kurden).
Biji Kurd u Kurdistan
Antibarbar77 2 years ago 2
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Everything was Kurdish .. LOL
Kurdish is a dialect of Indo Iranian languages ... claiming Avesta is Kurdish is like saying that Assyrians are the same as Arabs or Iranians are Germans ... bull ...
abp250 2 years ago
IT is maybe not nice to hear it your self. Bud if your goin to look at the yezidi's they all talk kurdish, the Kurdish Sun on hour flag is something what is Jezidi. it doesnt matter we are not talkin here about other Nations. We are talkin about the History of Kurdistan. aNd let dont be forgotten like it was for almost 100 years the struggle! We wil not forget what hour history gaved us, we are only talkin about kurdistan
thnk u
sayfadeen6 2 years ago
hi im sorry, im kurdish and correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you forget the dialect badini? thats what i speak... or educate me on what its close to at least
janetuyi 2 years ago 2
U r right. Sorry... This video is from fireofthemedia2. She is very patriot but i think so, she forgot it.
Programm2006 2 years ago
@Programm2006 oh ok i was just wondering...for a sec there i thought badini wasnt a main dialect lol... but ok thanks!!1 :)
janetuyi 2 years ago
@Programm2006 She didn't forget it.. Badhînî belongs to Kurmanci.. excactly for example like Shikakî, which is spoken in Urumîye.
suisseTKD 1 year ago
@suisseTKD Kirmanji is not a separate dialect from Badini. Kirmanj is the Turkish word for Kurd. the Kurds of Turkey are also Badini like the people of Duhk. they also speak Badini dialect. the Kurds of northern Kurdistan are Badini, the Kurds of southern Kurdistan are Sorani. actually Sorani is also a word which describes the principality of Soran which ruled southern Kurdistan during the 17th and 18th century. e.g. the people of sulaymany are citizens of the principality of Baban not Soran.
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
@TheScienceofnature the people of southern Kurdistan all speak the same dialect which is known as Sorani, however Sorani is not a dialect, or at least it wasn't used to describe the language, Sorani is the name of the Principality of Soran. southern Kurdistan has had many Principalities such as Soran, Baban, Mukryan...etc Soran and Baban even went to war at some point in history, they both spoke the same dialect and the same language. it was more like the PUK and PDK today.
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
@TheScienceofnature -.- Kurmanci is a turkish word? Oo haha Don't make me laugh! Kur - Mandj = Son of Med. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with tirk!!!
Kurmanci is the generic term of some dialekts. Shikakî, Badînî, and some others belongs to Kurmanci!
Please go read in Wikipedia under en.wikipedia kurmanji
suisseTKD 1 year ago
@suisseTKD you are right about that. that was a very foul mistake on my part, my apologies friend. how could i be so foolish to think that the word which Kurds call themselves by comes from Turk. you are 100% correct about the fact that it means son of Media. or at least of the median tribe of magi, Kur is a very obvious name in Kurdish language, it means son. and magi is a well known Muslim tribe, in the movie Mummy they are falsely labeled as Saracen or an arab tribe who are gods warriors.
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
@suisseTKD the magi are one of the most famous tribes of the medean people, Kurdish people. one of the three wise man who are the subject of the Biblical story of nativity is thought to be from the magi tribe. of course both three wise man were Kurds, from different Kurdish tribes. but specifically one of them was a magi.
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
@janetuyi Kurmanji is mistakenly called by some as Bahdini, simply because Kurmanji speaking Kurds live in Bahdinan region.
TapaRash1 2 years ago
Bahdini is synonym for Kurmanji @janetuyi
darksidekurd 1 year ago
@janetuyi, Badinan or Behdinan is not a dialect, its a region whos dielct falls in Kurmanci. Badini or Behdini is a branch of Kurmanci. Kurmanci is a main dialect that consists of Behdini, Shikaki, Botani, hekari. All these are branches of Kurmanci. I am from duhok too, but we are soo wrong when we say we speak behdini, because there is no such thing as behdini no such dialect. Its Kurmanci.
hishyar1977 1 year ago
@janetuyi badini is kurmanji subdialect. I dont understand sorani but badini very well. kurmanji varies very much in pronouncing, different provinces speak in different tempo's and accent of kurmanji.
Sazvend 1 year ago
@janetuyi
Badini and Kurmanji are different names for the same dialect, so a Kurd from Amed would say Barzani speaks Kurmanji, while a Kurd from Hewler would say he speaks Badini.
Naraku111 6 months ago
@janetuyi u speak spanish
peywend 5 months ago
i love kurdistan
zanstosman 2 years ago 10
UNITED KURDISTAN FOREVER
TheKORDISTAN 2 years ago 16
I hope someday Iranian would have a real democracy and the Kurds and all other nations of GREAT IRAN could live in peace and BE LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE USED TO BE 1000s of years!
Love for our graet nations!
maryam3580 2 years ago 2
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The orgin of the kurds has always been a vague and sketchy one till now .There is overwhelming evidence and many historians are agreeing about 4500B.C. a turkoman got really drunk and fucked a horse giving birth to the kurd.
Turkslayer1 3 years ago
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