You can only have gaming cards in the Mac Pro. Old gaming cards, at that. You could go and buy a 275 or something and add that in, but it won't be covered by AppleCare. The fact that a "workstation" like the Mac Pro can't support a nVidia Quadro FX is laughable. Can't support SAS drives either under the warranty.
That custom built Workstation I built against the Mac Pro had more power in 3 areas and was a little over the price of the Mac pro you built PC's will always have more power.
I'm sorry but real power lies in custom builds cause you can pick the hardware you need but I will still do an OEM to OEM comparison even though it's pointless when I can do custom to OEM comparison
No yougot it all wrong New to new and used to used my custom to OEM isnotusedall the stuff I pick is new that's my rules of comparing like it or not I do not compare but that's my rules and youhave to followthem if you want me to approve a video response.
I argue that you are comparing a box of parts to a completely manufactured computer.
If comparing a box of parts to a completely manufactured product is fair, then manufacturer approved refurbs are ok to compare to a box of parts. End of story.
I don't have to follow your rules dude. First off, Your intent is to NOT do a fair comparison. Secondly, I'm not asking you to approve any video responses. As far as I'm concerned, you concede your point anyway.
I didn't make up stupid rules. You're the one that compared a Harpertown to a nehalem, then when I showed you were wrong, you made a comparison by purposefully jacking up the price of the mac pro.
of course we won't agree on this. I have a sense of fair play, whereas you do not.
Touting the ability to have 192 GB of ram isn't that big a deal when, for the same price, I could build a cluster with far more processing power and more ram for the same price.
so could anyone with any available hardware , people who need serious amounts of ram obviously have money to waste and isnt an issue , cant see any large bussines needing 192gb in one singler machine tho , 32gb max is fine , i only got 8 gigs ddr2 and i struggle to use all of it even when playing crysis and running multiple hd videos
Why do games come up all the time, I am getting very annoyed!! They don't matter to most people, and if they do then why would they even bother with OSX. OSX is great, many applications, and more games than you would think.
But still, people are pretty much comparing a computer, to an operating system, if you installed Xp/Vista on a Mac, then you would get all that stuff.
i think both systems r good , but i like dells colour labelling for whats warm cold and hot swap in the interior, no matter what tho , id never afford to have both without takinn out a loan
no games are a crapy example.if u bought a computer for games u might as well call ur self a nerd and hide in ur room and play wow all day long.apple is for music and videos..and vista sucks so much they stoped making it..so have a come back to that one
stop making it ? lol you dont have a clue . and games is actually a large test on how powerful a computer is , if a computer cant pl;ay games itll suck at making music and video , since PC is better at games than mac , its alsao better for music and video , owned !
ya stop making it their making windows 7 cause vista had so many glitches if u dont beleive me google it actualy games u have to have enough memory and enough hard drive like every thing else but u have to have a very good graphics card to play new games but all u need for music and videos is a moniter and 1 gb of memory and 120 gb of hard drive and that will last u a while
indeed , my vista laptop has 1 gig ram a celeron processor and a 160 gig hdd and runs fine and plays music and even quake 3 on high detail , hell it even plays hd movies withou ta struggle , all using vistas own software
really well i have a 1 gb ram and 250 gb hdd imac and it does everything..my step mom has a vista labtop and it has 1 gb ram and 120 gb hdd and i tried it out it wouldnt evan play a online game...
apple making games ? ah yes , like the apple puzzle all in super 2d graphics lol , oh and chess ! im sorry but id rather haVE A pc its cheaper , has better hardware , plays games better without need for emulation and has so much more software
ok then , can macs install fruity loop studios ? one of the most popular msuic creation apps there is ? NO it cannot ., same goes for many other great software that osx cannot install
i kno i did there were examples but final cut pro is awsome,expensive but awsome..and if windows r so great then y do they get virses and apples dont unless their big
osx dont get viruses as much because they dont let u install anything by the users choice , windows allows so , getting a virus is through stupidity , the FREE world has risks , windows is that world
once u upgrade a mac the optimisation is no longer there that makes apple so "stable". also i have seen inside a mac pro and i dont like it , it runs far too hot because apple stuck bits of cheap aluminium plating all over the place for no reason whatsoever
*customizing your own ftw*
cheaper than mac
IflyinGa 2 years ago
ActuAlly then can have 4 video cards and I beaver said that then could have 192 gig of ram...
samlaxrocks 2 years ago
You can only have gaming cards in the Mac Pro. Old gaming cards, at that. You could go and buy a 275 or something and add that in, but it won't be covered by AppleCare. The fact that a "workstation" like the Mac Pro can't support a nVidia Quadro FX is laughable. Can't support SAS drives either under the warranty.
LeodimeII 2 years ago
buy a 275? you mean 285.
Can't support Quadro? I see someone never heard of the Quadro 4800
Can support those things under warranty dude.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
Yes, but not AppleCare. AC only supports things certified by Apple. Not 3rd party shit.
LeodimeII 2 years ago
Apple's Mac Pro RAID card should be Applecare supported.
The Manufacturer's warranty for SAS drives and third party videocard should suffice.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
Can you support a Video card that is up to date like a Quadro FX5800 and not like a 1 or 2 year old card FX4800
Caboose2321 2 years ago
the FX 4800 isn't a year old bro.
It was released in APRIL of THIS YEAR.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
Whatever I made an assumption and I was wrong but you cannot get the better GPU like I could the FX5800 so enjoy the lower model numbers.
Caboose2321 2 years ago
Hey, enjoy your $3000 videocard then.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
Power and superiority cost money LoL
Caboose2321 2 years ago
The power difference is not proportional to the price.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
That custom built Workstation I built against the Mac Pro had more power in 3 areas and was a little over the price of the Mac pro you built PC's will always have more power.
Caboose2321 2 years ago
"PC's will always have more power."
Oh?
Then do an OEM to OEM comparison bro.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
I'm sorry but real power lies in custom builds cause you can pick the hardware you need but I will still do an OEM to OEM comparison even though it's pointless when I can do custom to OEM comparison
Caboose2321 2 years ago
Homebrew vs OEM is a stupid price comparison. They are two totally different things.
Want to compare 'custom'? Compare custom, to custom. Compare things that are similar to each other. Is that so hard? Or is your argument so weak?
sc0pl355 2 years ago
As long as I make my custom the same as the OEM spec by spec I can compare them.
Caboose2321 2 years ago
then me using a refurb to compare to your custom is fair too. see how this works?
sc0pl355 2 years ago
No yougot it all wrong New to new and used to used my custom to OEM isnotusedall the stuff I pick is new that's my rules of comparing like it or not I do not compare but that's my rules and youhave to followthem if you want me to approve a video response.
Caboose2321 2 years ago
New to new?
I argue that you are comparing a box of parts to a completely manufactured computer.
If comparing a box of parts to a completely manufactured product is fair, then manufacturer approved refurbs are ok to compare to a box of parts. End of story.
I don't have to follow your rules dude. First off, Your intent is to NOT do a fair comparison. Secondly, I'm not asking you to approve any video responses. As far as I'm concerned, you concede your point anyway.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
Like I said when you compare a custom to OEM you can do a spec by spec comparison which is fair regardless of what you think.
Your the one who makes up these stupid rules so I made my own and when I d you don't like them well I don't like yours.
Comparing 2 products is opinionated anyway so not many people would agree with the way you do yours and the same for me.
We will never agree on this subject either so either you continue to argue or leave it at this.
Caboose2321 2 years ago
homebrew vs oem is not a fair comparison dude.
I didn't make up stupid rules. You're the one that compared a Harpertown to a nehalem, then when I showed you were wrong, you made a comparison by purposefully jacking up the price of the mac pro.
of course we won't agree on this. I have a sense of fair play, whereas you do not.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Whatever I don't care
Caboose2321 2 years ago
@sc0pl355
"of course we won't agree on this. I have a sense of fair play, whereas you do not. 3 months ago"
Says the guys who often visits videos of Applesoldier, the lamest Mac fanboy on YouTube for over 2 years... (rolling eyes)
zonexll 1 year ago
@zonexll
>Says the guys who often visits videos of Applesoldier
Who are you to say what I should watch or comment on? Butthurt much?
sc0pl355 1 year ago
mac pro won ? MACS CNANOT HAVE 192 gb of ram and 4 video cards , uber fail fanboy , and why do all mac fanboys look ugly on youtube ?
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
yeah
tell you what, you get the 192 gb upgrade, i make a mac pro cluster with max ram in each
sc0pl355 2 years ago
so that made no sense
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
A 192 gb ram upgrade in a dell used to run about $50,000 dude.
Hell, just to jump to 48 GB runs over $13,000.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
16gb ram sticks dont come cheap :) £990 a peice
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
Yeah, I know. that's what I'm saying.
Touting the ability to have 192 GB of ram isn't that big a deal when, for the same price, I could build a cluster with far more processing power and more ram for the same price.
sc0pl355 2 years ago
so could anyone with any available hardware , people who need serious amounts of ram obviously have money to waste and isnt an issue , cant see any large bussines needing 192gb in one singler machine tho , 32gb max is fine , i only got 8 gigs ddr2 and i struggle to use all of it even when playing crysis and running multiple hd videos
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
people i aint a friggin nerd i just wanna show my frn dhere wgy mac ownz a dell pc
guthixpwnz 2 years ago
also people wouldnt spent time making virus for OSX because no OSX PC is worth hacking into , there arent enough to care about
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
and why pay more when u can get as Pc ? hasha
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
and PC is better for games msuic and graphica and art and movies for a lot cheaper to :D
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
and the OS is not better , windows can do more than OSX , OSX dont have games for a start , letalone 90% of the applications you can get for the PC
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
Why do games come up all the time, I am getting very annoyed!! They don't matter to most people, and if they do then why would they even bother with OSX. OSX is great, many applications, and more games than you would think.
TABUSINTACBOY 3 years ago
because gamems is a good example of why people prefer windows , people wanna make more apps for windows because its open for any hardware
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
But still, people are pretty much comparing a computer, to an operating system, if you installed Xp/Vista on a Mac, then you would get all that stuff.
TABUSINTACBOY 3 years ago
but for the price u pay for the mac its not worth it
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
True, but lets agree to disagree, haha...
TABUSINTACBOY 3 years ago
i think both systems r good , but i like dells colour labelling for whats warm cold and hot swap in the interior, no matter what tho , id never afford to have both without takinn out a loan
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
Same here haha, gotta pay off my drums, then gonna get a laptop, debt all over again, but not as much, haha.
TABUSINTACBOY 3 years ago
no games are a crapy example.if u bought a computer for games u might as well call ur self a nerd and hide in ur room and play wow all day long.apple is for music and videos..and vista sucks so much they stoped making it..so have a come back to that one
forthjohn 3 years ago
stop making it ? lol you dont have a clue . and games is actually a large test on how powerful a computer is , if a computer cant pl;ay games itll suck at making music and video , since PC is better at games than mac , its alsao better for music and video , owned !
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
ya stop making it their making windows 7 cause vista had so many glitches if u dont beleive me google it actualy games u have to have enough memory and enough hard drive like every thing else but u have to have a very good graphics card to play new games but all u need for music and videos is a moniter and 1 gb of memory and 120 gb of hard drive and that will last u a while
forthjohn 3 years ago
indeed , my vista laptop has 1 gig ram a celeron processor and a 160 gig hdd and runs fine and plays music and even quake 3 on high detail , hell it even plays hd movies withou ta struggle , all using vistas own software
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
really well i have a 1 gb ram and 250 gb hdd imac and it does everything..my step mom has a vista labtop and it has 1 gb ram and 120 gb hdd and i tried it out it wouldnt evan play a online game...
forthjohn 3 years ago
and macs cant play games whatsoever , so whats the point ?
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
i play online games alll the time and now apple is making games for the mac pro and imac and apples labtops..
forthjohn 3 years ago
apple making games ? ah yes , like the apple puzzle all in super 2d graphics lol , oh and chess ! im sorry but id rather haVE A pc its cheaper , has better hardware , plays games better without need for emulation and has so much more software
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
hahaha dude you PC user's need to STFU about games. i can own your ass in everything and the only thing you can say is 'lol PC's can game'
such a PC noob =]
PowerMacUser 3 years ago
ok then , can macs install fruity loop studios ? one of the most popular msuic creation apps there is ? NO it cannot ., same goes for many other great software that osx cannot install
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
dude their already made need for speed carbon for it and spore and call of duty all those plus more..
forthjohn 3 years ago
lmao i heard spore had problems running on a mac
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
fruity loop studio??no but u can install final cut studios pro and aparture and there MUCH better..
forthjohn 3 years ago
lmao u dont have a clue wtf u on about !!!! u named photo editing software !!! DORK and final cut pro sucks balls for the price it is
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
i kno i did there were examples but final cut pro is awsome,expensive but awsome..and if windows r so great then y do they get virses and apples dont unless their big
forthjohn 3 years ago
osx dont get viruses as much because they dont let u install anything by the users choice , windows allows so , getting a virus is through stupidity , the FREE world has risks , windows is that world
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
so wat u would rather live in a world that has risks then live in a perfect world world tat just has a couple of restrictions...
forthjohn 3 years ago
id rather live in a totally free world with law , that is what windows provides, mac is like living with a nanny 24/7 even tho yer an adult
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
maybe shes a sexy nanny??lol
forthjohn 3 years ago
thats a maybe , but with windows i get a choice to choose my nanny :D
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
.......>:(
forthjohn 3 years ago
"osx dont get viruses as much because they dont let u install anything by the users choic"
I have a few hundred apps that I installed myself.
Apple doesn't stop anyone from installing software.
sc0pl355 3 years ago
ok then , so osx has viruses :)
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
None in ther wild, dumbass.
In order for malicious software to function on a Mac, it needs the user's help every step of the way.
It needs the user to imput their admin password and a whole host of other things.
Windows just lets the virus, adware, spyware move in, unchecked. No user help is required on windows.
sc0pl355 3 years ago
only dickheads gets viruses :P hence i never get them
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
"fruity loop studio??"
Macs come with garage band.
just a reminder
sc0pl355 3 years ago
losers , dell is much better and offers a x2 power than the mac
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
are you retarted? there OS Is way better designed and have you seen the inside the beauty mac pro? SO easy for upgrading so suck IT!!
samlaxrocks 3 years ago
once u upgrade a mac the optimisation is no longer there that makes apple so "stable". also i have seen inside a mac pro and i dont like it , it runs far too hot because apple stuck bits of cheap aluminium plating all over the place for no reason whatsoever
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
Even if the Mac Pro cost more than the Dell, I would STILL take the Mac - so much better in every aspect!!
nathg01 3 years ago
Same for me
samlaxrocks 3 years ago
As long as you get youtube- it's all good!
biggydman 3 years ago