Lol, my brother makes cars. If his cars breaks down, he doesn't need a child's manual. When shit goes down, you should learn some skills and overcome it... There IS a reason schools exist. :D
@pillowbugg No, animals do what they want - they kill other animals at will. Surely you should know this. That's the difference between humans & animals. Animals do what they want because they're a-moral...they have no moral code. They have instincts, but not morals. They'll ultimately do whatever they feel like. If one animal wants to attack and kill another, it will do it.
Unless you have an objective moral standard, you can only ever have relative morality. Relative morality refutes itself.
when the Catholic church can persuade their priests to keep their hands off the little boys then I might be remotely interested in what they have to say.
The point of the ad is to point out we atheists love Christmas, its lots of fun, and we don't waste the holiday by going to church. We just don't love the falseness of religion. And we are still good people, we don't need god to tell us how to be ethical and moral.
@nancy6ify Atheists are good people? Good by what standard? Your standard? Actually believe it or not, you do need God to tell you how to be moral. Here's a very simple question for you - how do you decide right from wrong?
In a naturalistic, evolutionary worldview, how could you have such a thing as right and wrong and how could you possibly know about it?
@nancy6ify In the naturalist, evolutionary worldview (which is what atheists have), human beings are nothing more than chemical accidents.... and murder is nothing more than one chemical accident getting rid of another chemical accident. Why would that be wrong? You wouldn't get angry at bi-carb mixing with vinegar would you?
Besides, humans are nothing more than animals in the evolutionary worldview, and you wouldn't get angry at a lion killing a zebra. So why people?
@Daracon75 Let me see if I can help you out Einstein. I basically said I like something you said. There was an effect, just a negative one.
You mention chemical accidents and wild animals killing and that is natural, but if I human kill, then it is wrong. It’s only wrong, because we labeled it wrong. Just like you pointed out I didn’t make any point. If a dog is being a dog and stiffs another dog butt, does he have to make a point?
@69jeffrow It had no effect because it was incorrect. I didn't say what you're claiming I said at all. What you don't even realise is that you're backing up my argument, which is an irrefutable one to say the least. I'm quite certain that you don't even understand the implications of my irrefutable argument. Do you understand that what I said demonstrates that morality doesn't make any sense in a naturalistic worldview? If you don't understand that, keep reading my comments until you do.
@nancy6ify And who's to say murder is wrong? If we just evolved, then we own ourselves, and we can decide on our own rules, and you may not like what my rules are. But y'know what, if you're for relative morality - then might is right. If our purpose here is to survive, then killing someone and stealing their money is the moral thing to do.
Without God and his objective moral standard he's given us, you're reduced to foolishness. Morality doesn't make any sense in your worldview.
Do animals care for thier young? Do animals in the animal kingdom live harmonously in colonies, groups or entire civilizations? How do ants do this if they don't believe in the christian god? oh, I get it..."father"...lol...is rationalizing things to his "sheep" again.
Would he drive a car that came with an owners manual dated 2000 years ago? LOL Time for a new manual for a new age. Join the New Atheist Movement and get rid of this bronze age BS.
So if this guy found out he wasn't 'special' (special he is, mentally challenged at least) the world would be a piece of shit right away? God, how many years do you have to live to finally discover the world isn't so damn perfect as you wish it was? But religion makes you believe it is, probably that is why they cling to it.
So the preacher was able to see some invisible text I mean... cause where did it ever say there was no God? It just said you didn't need God to be good. What an idiot.
@DarkBunnyLord - It's just refreshing to know that a everyday blogger from YT can figure this out, but the three "Idiot Savants" here who consider themselves "experts" can't. Great post.
"dont try and push that (atheism) on other people" so only organized religious institutions are allowed to push/promote their believes? Why is it that 'believers' when arguing against 'public atheism', say that it is wrong for atheists to be so 'militant', do they not see the irony/hypocrisy of that statement. Even today, 2011, people are literally killed for not believing, or believing the wrong thing, that is militant! Stop preaching your BS, and I'll stop talking about the truth
People give to charity because they feel a need to give... if religion disappeared people would still give... look at the evidence of countries that are largely atheist, there is no lack of charity in those countries. Furthermore, wouldn't it be nice if the people who have just gave for the sake of giving and not out of fear of god? 2nd, what the religous (like this guy) fail to see is that religion causes more hardships than it 'cures', on a world wide level religion is extremly destructive.
Typical of fox news. They seldom make use of a fair debate logic... Where is the secular humanist defending and counter-arguing that priest? Why do we always have to hear biased stuff? Fair and balanced? My ass.
@immortaltechpt - Well, you said it. That's Fox News. Terms such as "Fair debate" or "Fair and Balance" doesn't exist on that network. What's the fun of bringing on a Humanist or anyone of reason to dispute the sewage that comes from this nonsense priest or the other lunatic hosts when they could simply tell you and their viewers what to think and believe.
I wonder how many children that scumbag has ejaculated inside of. And before someone says that my question is ridiculous...seriously. You all know this guy had emptied his vas deference inside of little kids..we know he has because we know it because we know it because we believe he has and if your faith is strong enough thats all you need. he is a pedophile.
a higher power will motivate you to love neighboors???? what if the higher power falls asleep? you will kill your neighboor! hahahahahahahaha! i love my neighboor because otherwise society, would not exist! basic principal natural selection you fucktard!
Yes, because the universe is totally like a car, and of course the onus is on non-believers to establish that God (or the Flying Spaghetti Monster) doesn't exist. Also, isn't the priest a bit camp?
I am pretty sure they put it as "authority in this country", or as "dominant influence." etc.. Well, it is FOX "news".
Motivation to be kind? Come on, I grew up without Christianity and I constantly help those who need help. I did it without God or hell or reward.
Morality would disappear? Stop violating separation between the Church and State, then we will talk. You feel it is moral to try to bend laws just because it is not from your God?
haha a christian telling atheists not to push their beliefs??? Where was this priest when the church next door had people knocking on my front door at 8am saturday morning? What a load of crap
I think you diserve to be treated better than an animal, therefore I must believe in God? If there's no God that cares and rewards me for being nice, there's no point in being nice? God is useful when things are bad? If I were a rational God-believing person, I'd feel misrepresented by this guy, who appears to enjoy making irrational leaps of logic. He should read Matthew 7:21-23.
And once again, a Fox News' guest misleads people into thinking that all atheists are trying to disprove God.
Atheists are fighting a lost battle. They'll never develop a significant following since the vast majority of people on Earth have a very strong conviction in their belief in God that can never be taken away from them. The Power of God vastly overwhelms the entrapment of ignorance and disbelief that makes up the fragile bubble in which atheists exist. Every atheist will ultimately become a believer in God when their eyes are finally opened to God at the last moments of their lives on Earth.
Many people drive their new car without reading the manual, Father Jackass. Some of us can figure things out more easliy than the manual may explain it. If you can't, then read your bible...er...manual.
The clergyman is himself the evidence that Evolution has occured in Christianity. At other times, he would had surely be brandishing his bible when burning "heretics".
@tielec01 well he's compering reading a car manual to the religious dogma over billions of people. I wouldn't expect him to be smart, he was probably brainwashed with bible stories since he was a little kid. His mind is trapped in a 1st century explonation of what those people thought, his fear of hell is stronger than truth. He believes Jesus cured sickness by casting out demons but he forgets that's because they didn't know bacteria. It's sad people live their lifes that way.
Can you imagine they heyday FOX would have if an atheist felt like a billboard of a Bible verse was "forcing" a belief on them and demanded it be taken down?
Seriously, all atheism is, is the lack of belief. What is so dark about that?
If you need a force greater than yourself in order to encourage you to be good, then I would argue that you're not *really* good. Still, by all means, if that's what keeps you from being a murdering tyrant then by all means, believe in a sky daddy.
Oh no did you hear what he said "if there is no special dignety and respect that is owed to you, then you know what this world is a very terrible place."
*slow clapping*
of course he doesn't see what he just said, that his argument is based on the DESIRE that the world should be flowery and wonderful. That facts rutinely show otherwise is readily dismissed.
He wants to see a "special" world so thats how he sees it.
2:58 " 'I can live without God.' Wonderful, Go for it. But don't try to push that on other people." Hmm, that's an awfully strange thing to say for someone who is historically against secularism. So it's not okay for atheists/agnostics/humanists to promote their beliefs, but it's okay to promote yours. Welcome, Planet Earth, to the hypocrisy of organized religion.
Sooo... If there were no higher power (not like there is any if you don't count the police and goverment) to motivate you to love your neighbour (probably bad spelling) and not kill him you would do the oposite?
Are you that small minded? Just because there is no one watching you, you would do stupid things? Weakling...
The priest who's on a major "news" network, making an urgent argument for his religion is accusing non believers to not push their views onto people. lol.
He should disclose who he really is. But Fox will let him get away with it. This man is a member of The Legion of Christ. Google it. He's hiding behind his collar.
"Every religion can't be right, but all religions could be wrong." Seriously, I don't expect anything rational or convincing from Fox News but this bit was really weak. I would rather live next to an atheist who thinks he should treat me kindly because it's ethical to do so instead of someone whose only reason for not murdering me is because he'll end up in hell. The atheist who becomes religious will still not harm me but the believer who starts having doubts now will!
If one needs a super powerful invisible space daddy to tell him to be nice to people, there is something not right with this person... AND if car breaks down, reading the manual doesn't fix it magically now does it? Especially if the manual is so old that it no longer explains the full features of the car anymore.
Unfortunatly for him his owners manual was writen while the mechanic was in a really foul mood. So it might be a little sticky from the blood of the babies he just killed or maybe it was from the pregnent women he just tore open.
Anyway in between the finer points of oiling the engine there are helpful gems like taking a sledge hammer to the windscreen or a chainsaw to the doors.
@makshobelosa ... yet you can define your beliefs by what you don't believe? Philosophically it's not very useful. One must start with some premises to reach conclusions.
I can see a few premises your operating under. For example "My external reality can be understood, and I can perceive everything well" "I think rationally, therefore I can trust my logical conclusions." Why do you trust these things to be true?
hehe "owner's manual". that was shallow, really shallow. Just like the toothbrush. So when catholics and protestants bash eachothers brains out, they are acting out their morals? help me dudes
"Don't try to push it on other people". I'll be sure to tell that to the next evangelising asshole who knocks on my door and tells me I'm going to burn eternally in hell. Gracias Padre.
ok so you get a fucking priest on your show. OF COURSE HES GOING TO SAY THERES A GOD. and i have trouble even considering anything he said because the first thing he said was "i believe in the human nature and the human way"........uh so why are you a priest? because you know priests cant have sex and actually have a human way. its all based on god.
Wait, so if there is no god, Father Jonathan will have no reason to believe that a human being has more value than, say, a rodent? (OK everybody, no one tell him there is no god! shhh)
what the hell do you know about human nature? You believe in original sin? You've done nothing and just come out of the womb but something is wrong with you. When are we going to grow out of needing god? Why should we need him if he exists? Why should superior being NEED worshipping or require you to abide by it's laws?
If it were true that people were good only because they believed in God, then they would all qualify as psychopaths and I probably should be glad that they do believe in Big Brother.
Hey good Father, and how do you know that that car was designed (if it ever was) by your specific manufacturer? R= Through faith? or just because it suits your local fantasies? How DO YOU KNOW?
lol the priest is a clown, and I'd have destroyed his bullshit logic in about ten seconds. lol this surely isn't the best teh RCC can do. Then again... it IS fox
This crap coming from a guy whose Church (Catholic) says its ok to lie, if it protects the church or if its in the interest of the church......which is how those Catholic pedophile priests got away with it for so long......
Fox has no bias, I'm sure the Atheist, and the Rabbi and the.. oh wait, they only have a christian priest on......... odd..... how dare they 'try to get people to join them'.... because no missionary has ever tried that... idiots
Exactly! We are suppose to rely on the "word" of a people that didn't know where the sun went every day, or why it rained or snowed, or what an earthquake or thunder was--I sure hope not. I'll take what science says over that any day. Now is there some omnipotent creator out there somewhere--who knows. As far as we know, the Big Bang could have been some "child's" science experiment in some other world.
"I can live without god... wonderful but don't try to push another people" the SAME argument can be used against religious people who ALWAYS try to change you and take you to their church... and by the way, I don't need the idea of an afterlife reward for doing good in this life and my motivation is not god (any of them) AT ALL.
But don't you know that true morality can only be motivated by a selfish fear of hell, and an even more selfish desire to kiss an imortal being's ass eternally so that he will give you orgasms in heaven because of the sacrifice he made to himself that allowed him to return to heaven to have his ass kissed by you for all eternity? How can you possibly not see that when you look at the trees?
A higher power makes me charitable? Thats not true for some. That may not even be true for many. Many people give because they want to see their fellow man succeed, just like they did. They want to treat others as they themselves have been treated. This is called good will towards one another. Why cant this be innate? Why does it have to come from a "god"?
How is that against christ, it doesn't even mention Jesus Christ. It says be good without religon, just for being good. If people are being good because of religon, I would rather them be mean rather than "good" for false belifes.
Ah, cretins: Krist said not to call anyone Father but the one in heaven.
Ghenesis said all animals—breathers—had souls as well (nepesh).
We are the creators of cars and Man; there is no lone instruction manual. Scripture/Buybull is fail, full of liges and bad advise, full of fictions and fantasies and plagiarisms from pagan God-plays. Scripture had many Gods, not only one, and many sons of Gods. Too bad cretins can't read Hibirijt.
Don't push onto other people that you can live without God. Anybody else finding that hilarious to come from a Christian priest?
omicida4991 2 months ago
Lol, my brother makes cars. If his cars breaks down, he doesn't need a child's manual. When shit goes down, you should learn some skills and overcome it... There IS a reason schools exist. :D
Warkiam 2 months ago
wtf!??!? what's wrong with the adoptive kids from china?!?
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Fox News is so unlike Jesus.
MendingMedia 3 months ago
"don't try to push it on other people" is he serious? this is religion main job.
doomcss 4 months ago
@doomcss Sanctimonious hypocrisy. Preacher against preaching.
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@pillowbugg No, animals do what they want - they kill other animals at will. Surely you should know this. That's the difference between humans & animals. Animals do what they want because they're a-moral...they have no moral code. They have instincts, but not morals. They'll ultimately do whatever they feel like. If one animal wants to attack and kill another, it will do it.
Unless you have an objective moral standard, you can only ever have relative morality. Relative morality refutes itself.
Daracon75 4 months ago
when the Catholic church can persuade their priests to keep their hands off the little boys then I might be remotely interested in what they have to say.
tfd829 4 months ago
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glockers111 4 months ago
The point of the ad is to point out we atheists love Christmas, its lots of fun, and we don't waste the holiday by going to church. We just don't love the falseness of religion. And we are still good people, we don't need god to tell us how to be ethical and moral.
nancy6ify 5 months ago
@nancy6ify Atheists are good people? Good by what standard? Your standard? Actually believe it or not, you do need God to tell you how to be moral. Here's a very simple question for you - how do you decide right from wrong?
In a naturalistic, evolutionary worldview, how could you have such a thing as right and wrong and how could you possibly know about it?
Daracon75 4 months ago
@nancy6ify In the naturalist, evolutionary worldview (which is what atheists have), human beings are nothing more than chemical accidents.... and murder is nothing more than one chemical accident getting rid of another chemical accident. Why would that be wrong? You wouldn't get angry at bi-carb mixing with vinegar would you?
Besides, humans are nothing more than animals in the evolutionary worldview, and you wouldn't get angry at a lion killing a zebra. So why people?
Daracon75 4 months ago
@Daracon75 Like your twisted thinking, haha. If nature is nature, how can anything be right or wrong.
69jeffrow 4 months ago
@69jeffrow Nice logical fallacies there. Considering that your comment had no effect on anything, was there an actual point to your comment?
Daracon75 4 months ago
@Daracon75 Let me see if I can help you out Einstein. I basically said I like something you said. There was an effect, just a negative one.
You mention chemical accidents and wild animals killing and that is natural, but if I human kill, then it is wrong. It’s only wrong, because we labeled it wrong. Just like you pointed out I didn’t make any point. If a dog is being a dog and stiffs another dog butt, does he have to make a point?
69jeffrow 4 months ago
@69jeffrow It had no effect because it was incorrect. I didn't say what you're claiming I said at all. What you don't even realise is that you're backing up my argument, which is an irrefutable one to say the least. I'm quite certain that you don't even understand the implications of my irrefutable argument. Do you understand that what I said demonstrates that morality doesn't make any sense in a naturalistic worldview? If you don't understand that, keep reading my comments until you do.
Daracon75 4 months ago
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@Daracon75 The effect I was referring to was you insulting me after I complimented you. Hehe.
You had me at Hello, but now you F- that up. HaHa.
“how do you decide right from wrong?” Ever heard of dead right you stupid F? I’m sorry.
69jeffrow 4 months ago
@nancy6ify And who's to say murder is wrong? If we just evolved, then we own ourselves, and we can decide on our own rules, and you may not like what my rules are. But y'know what, if you're for relative morality - then might is right. If our purpose here is to survive, then killing someone and stealing their money is the moral thing to do.
Without God and his objective moral standard he's given us, you're reduced to foolishness. Morality doesn't make any sense in your worldview.
Daracon75 4 months ago
why do most priest act and talk like they are homosexuals
lover3344 6 months ago
Humans are animals like every other animal on earth. The thing is, all animals should be respected, not just humans.
JDivinorumVideo 6 months ago
Remember all the looting those damn Japanese atheists did after the tsunami.
pchtermino1 6 months ago
Oh boy metaphors to cover up the stupid logic.
brongarago 6 months ago
Do animals care for thier young? Do animals in the animal kingdom live harmonously in colonies, groups or entire civilizations? How do ants do this if they don't believe in the christian god? oh, I get it..."father"...lol...is rationalizing things to his "sheep" again.
pillowbugg 6 months ago
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Daracon75 4 months ago
Would he drive a car that came with an owners manual dated 2000 years ago? LOL Time for a new manual for a new age. Join the New Atheist Movement and get rid of this bronze age BS.
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So if this guy found out he wasn't 'special' (special he is, mentally challenged at least) the world would be a piece of shit right away? God, how many years do you have to live to finally discover the world isn't so damn perfect as you wish it was? But religion makes you believe it is, probably that is why they cling to it.
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c0p13dn4m3 7 months ago
So the preacher was able to see some invisible text I mean... cause where did it ever say there was no God? It just said you didn't need God to be good. What an idiot.
DarkBunnyLord 7 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord - It's just refreshing to know that a everyday blogger from YT can figure this out, but the three "Idiot Savants" here who consider themselves "experts" can't. Great post.
VirgilB01 6 months ago
"dont try and push that (atheism) on other people" so only organized religious institutions are allowed to push/promote their believes? Why is it that 'believers' when arguing against 'public atheism', say that it is wrong for atheists to be so 'militant', do they not see the irony/hypocrisy of that statement. Even today, 2011, people are literally killed for not believing, or believing the wrong thing, that is militant! Stop preaching your BS, and I'll stop talking about the truth
blahblahreadabook 8 months ago 2
People give to charity because they feel a need to give... if religion disappeared people would still give... look at the evidence of countries that are largely atheist, there is no lack of charity in those countries. Furthermore, wouldn't it be nice if the people who have just gave for the sake of giving and not out of fear of god? 2nd, what the religous (like this guy) fail to see is that religion causes more hardships than it 'cures', on a world wide level religion is extremly destructive.
blahblahreadabook 8 months ago 2
Typical of fox news. They seldom make use of a fair debate logic... Where is the secular humanist defending and counter-arguing that priest? Why do we always have to hear biased stuff? Fair and balanced? My ass.
immortaltechpt 8 months ago 6
@immortaltechpt - Well, you said it. That's Fox News. Terms such as "Fair debate" or "Fair and Balance" doesn't exist on that network. What's the fun of bringing on a Humanist or anyone of reason to dispute the sewage that comes from this nonsense priest or the other lunatic hosts when they could simply tell you and their viewers what to think and believe.
VirgilB01 6 months ago
I dont't think the reporter sitting in the middle actually has spirit
rex786 8 months ago
What if I'm a mechanic and can fix my own car?
kinro4 8 months ago
I wonder how many children that scumbag has ejaculated inside of. And before someone says that my question is ridiculous...seriously. You all know this guy had emptied his vas deference inside of little kids..we know he has because we know it because we know it because we believe he has and if your faith is strong enough thats all you need. he is a pedophile.
699backstab 8 months ago
Also religion is the one that motivated the placement of bombs in planes..Jerk..,
Stevoukos 9 months ago
This guys needs to get laid, like now!!!!!!!!!
chertzle 9 months ago
a higher power will motivate you to love neighboors???? what if the higher power falls asleep? you will kill your neighboor! hahahahahahahaha! i love my neighboor because otherwise society, would not exist! basic principal natural selection you fucktard!
MrLiambi 9 months ago
Yes, because the universe is totally like a car, and of course the onus is on non-believers to establish that God (or the Flying Spaghetti Monster) doesn't exist. Also, isn't the priest a bit camp?
SkullOfYorick 9 months ago
it's idiotic to think a human's morals come from religion. It's disgusting really.
fourtywpm 10 months ago
I bet that priest loves putten his version of christ deep inside some children
starscreamdakmo 10 months ago
Of strength of morality? You are a bad liar.
I am pretty sure they put it as "authority in this country", or as "dominant influence." etc.. Well, it is FOX "news".
Motivation to be kind? Come on, I grew up without Christianity and I constantly help those who need help. I did it without God or hell or reward.
Morality would disappear? Stop violating separation between the Church and State, then we will talk. You feel it is moral to try to bend laws just because it is not from your God?
Neosaigo 10 months ago
when he mentioned tough times, was he talking about, times similar to when christians were burning innocent people?
MrTattooConnection 11 months ago
atheist adds are automatically anti god? really? fox news. we spin, you decide
avalsonline2 1 year ago
The fact that most people only do good things because they think there's someone watching them is really disturbing to me...
Unicron4ever 1 year ago
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fin.
vrus91 1 year ago
they should really start interviewing ppl other than father john. he pisses me off
rylove001 1 year ago
haha a christian telling atheists not to push their beliefs??? Where was this priest when the church next door had people knocking on my front door at 8am saturday morning? What a load of crap
tireironman 1 year ago
I love how the priest is complaining about atheists proselytizing, which is basically his whole fucking job
AnonymousComrade 1 year ago 2
I wish I could just have a conversation with this guy. Fuckin retard.
fWo 1 year ago
I think you diserve to be treated better than an animal, therefore I must believe in God? If there's no God that cares and rewards me for being nice, there's no point in being nice? God is useful when things are bad? If I were a rational God-believing person, I'd feel misrepresented by this guy, who appears to enjoy making irrational leaps of logic. He should read Matthew 7:21-23.
And once again, a Fox News' guest misleads people into thinking that all atheists are trying to disprove God.
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In-tolerances towards one nation under God
There is a God and your not it Islamic DemoRepublican war mongers
411American 1 year ago
The claim that the Bible or some other 'holy' book is a manual for life is ridiculous....
jedraj 1 year ago 2
The children they adopted from China... may have been secular. :P
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Atheists are fighting a lost battle. They'll never develop a significant following since the vast majority of people on Earth have a very strong conviction in their belief in God that can never be taken away from them. The Power of God vastly overwhelms the entrapment of ignorance and disbelief that makes up the fragile bubble in which atheists exist. Every atheist will ultimately become a believer in God when their eyes are finally opened to God at the last moments of their lives on Earth.
gfemg 1 year ago
Many people drive their new car without reading the manual, Father Jackass. Some of us can figure things out more easliy than the manual may explain it. If you can't, then read your bible...er...manual.
yourjunk420 1 year ago
That ad was way below mild, and FOX still takes it like they took it up the ass.
DeadFishFactory 1 year ago
omg, did a CATHOLIC PRIEST just say DONT PUSH IT ON other people? Oh, that's priceless...
cruzangringa 1 year ago 2
missed the point, missed the point, missed the point...
whatsuphotdog 1 year ago
What an idiot!!
gaallegos 1 year ago
i hope all of these people spontaniously combust
zubestr 1 year ago
Well god and car accidents are some of the leading causes of death. I agree with his analogy.
Imesuckaholla 1 year ago 19
The clergyman is himself the evidence that Evolution has occured in Christianity. At other times, he would had surely be brandishing his bible when burning "heretics".
maotzetof 1 year ago
WTF is this absolute moron comparison with the car manual? The whole thing is, that atheists don't BELIEVE IN THE GODDAMN CAR MANUAL.
TheBaronessIsAwesome 1 year ago
He doesn't know what a humanist is, I have only looked into it for ten seconds but I know more than him, and he is on Fox news as an 'expert' ?
tielec01 1 year ago
@tielec01 well he's compering reading a car manual to the religious dogma over billions of people. I wouldn't expect him to be smart, he was probably brainwashed with bible stories since he was a little kid. His mind is trapped in a 1st century explonation of what those people thought, his fear of hell is stronger than truth. He believes Jesus cured sickness by casting out demons but he forgets that's because they didn't know bacteria. It's sad people live their lifes that way.
Redcaster916 1 year ago
secular humanists don't have to "disprove" god. the theists are the ones with all their work ahead of them.
fmandld 1 year ago
I am not Christian, but I respect that guy's opinion.
squigglewacks 1 year ago
@squigglewacks Everyone's opinion should be respected ; as long as its based on facts and common sense :)
TheFightingRebel 1 year ago
Hmm the car is not a good analogy. The car exists.
matchu4444 1 year ago
@matchu4444 Well done, sir.
boosie007666 1 year ago
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Luke. I am your father.
matchu4444 1 year ago
Who reads the owners manuel for anything? Especially for a car?
ARJQuad1993 1 year ago
"But don't push it on other people."
Can you imagine they heyday FOX would have if an atheist felt like a billboard of a Bible verse was "forcing" a belief on them and demanded it be taken down?
Seriously, all atheism is, is the lack of belief. What is so dark about that?
hockeyfan7125 1 year ago
Aww, that guy is sweet.
666satanification666 1 year ago
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That's how they get ya.
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
wow, someone needs to slap this priest around. What a fucking hypocrite.
datasiphon 1 year ago
If you need a force greater than yourself in order to encourage you to be good, then I would argue that you're not *really* good. Still, by all means, if that's what keeps you from being a murdering tyrant then by all means, believe in a sky daddy.
SubconsciousGatherer 1 year ago
Loving your neighbor doesn't mean anything if you're forced into it.
iamsagacity 1 year ago
Dumbest priest I've ever seen (and that's saying a lot).
ClumsyRoot 1 year ago
Okay, so we shouldn't rid childish beliefs in a magical creature because said beliefs make people be more charitable. Really?
AnarchalAtheist 1 year ago
I hate these christian assholes
rubberbaby00 1 year ago
There are things i dont understand therefor god exists.
This guy is an idiot, Bill Gates one of the most charitable people who is an atheist.
Atheist imposing???????? Christians are screaming join us and he's complaining about a bus ad?
The motivating force for charitable giving is give money or go to hell.
I love fox news.
poolandr 1 year ago
I've got a question for the Padre (father) John Morris.
What the fuck ever happened to thou shalt no bear false witness?
msaoichan 1 year ago
Hmmm here's a story about religion, so for a fair and balanced view and analyasis on the issue here's a PRIEST!!! Classic FOX journalism!! lol!
nonbe1iever 1 year ago
What the innate goodness of humanity? Survival of the kindest? United we stand? BLASPHEMY!!! lol
EntinludeX 1 year ago
Oh no did you hear what he said "if there is no special dignety and respect that is owed to you, then you know what this world is a very terrible place."
*slow clapping*
of course he doesn't see what he just said, that his argument is based on the DESIRE that the world should be flowery and wonderful. That facts rutinely show otherwise is readily dismissed.
He wants to see a "special" world so thats how he sees it.
BlueGlowingLight4 1 year ago
2:58 " 'I can live without God.' Wonderful, Go for it. But don't try to push that on other people." Hmm, that's an awfully strange thing to say for someone who is historically against secularism. So it's not okay for atheists/agnostics/humanists to promote their beliefs, but it's okay to promote yours. Welcome, Planet Earth, to the hypocrisy of organized religion.
dsalazar19 1 year ago 4
The only thing that motivates me throughout my normal daily routines is that my family still loves me even if I'm an atheist.
seegerts15 1 year ago 3
the fox news religion contributor is a priest, for Christ's sake. doesn't that just say it all.
Gaffas93 1 year ago 4
Sooo... If there were no higher power (not like there is any if you don't count the police and goverment) to motivate you to love your neighbour (probably bad spelling) and not kill him you would do the oposite?
Are you that small minded? Just because there is no one watching you, you would do stupid things? Weakling...
LordVercetti 1 year ago
The priest who's on a major "news" network, making an urgent argument for his religion is accusing non believers to not push their views onto people. lol.
lagnaf007 1 year ago
Why do these people hate the Tooth Fairy???
lagnaf007 1 year ago
My first reaction always after I see Morris is to laugh :)
Hirnlego999 1 year ago
He should disclose who he really is. But Fox will let him get away with it. This man is a member of The Legion of Christ. Google it. He's hiding behind his collar.
artvandelay3911 1 year ago
Wers father fucktards opinion about the current catholic sex scandal?
xdir 1 year ago
"Every religion can't be right, but all religions could be wrong." Seriously, I don't expect anything rational or convincing from Fox News but this bit was really weak. I would rather live next to an atheist who thinks he should treat me kindly because it's ethical to do so instead of someone whose only reason for not murdering me is because he'll end up in hell. The atheist who becomes religious will still not harm me but the believer who starts having doubts now will!
UbikValis2 1 year ago
A priest upset at someone proselytizing... the irony.
balios1 1 year ago 2
Why are all christians you see on fox such fucking idiots? They really are at the mental level of an 8 year old
surlagachette2 1 year ago
.......thats some fucking owners Manuel.
farnium 1 year ago
If one needs a super powerful invisible space daddy to tell him to be nice to people, there is something not right with this person... AND if car breaks down, reading the manual doesn't fix it magically now does it? Especially if the manual is so old that it no longer explains the full features of the car anymore.
kk207 2 years ago 3
This ad, and all the other ones like it, are just to encourage atheists out of the closet.
mathmatucla 2 years ago 2
Does Father whats-his-name ever actually say anything? What a limp noodle.
drumrnva 2 years ago 3
Unfortunatly for him his owners manual was writen while the mechanic was in a really foul mood. So it might be a little sticky from the blood of the babies he just killed or maybe it was from the pregnent women he just tore open.
Anyway in between the finer points of oiling the engine there are helpful gems like taking a sledge hammer to the windscreen or a chainsaw to the doors.
Yup such a wise source of morality :D
BlueGlowingLight4 2 years ago 3
Anti-God ads?? clever spin by fox news but atheist are not anti-god. you can't be against something you don't regard as real.
makshobelosa 2 years ago 74
@makshobelosa It's not even a clever spin.
itachi000797 1 year ago
@makshobelosa ... yet you can define your beliefs by what you don't believe? Philosophically it's not very useful. One must start with some premises to reach conclusions.
I can see a few premises your operating under. For example "My external reality can be understood, and I can perceive everything well" "I think rationally, therefore I can trust my logical conclusions." Why do you trust these things to be true?
jaquinlan 1 year ago
@jaquinlan whoa dude thats so deep man... like you totally just blew my mind with your superior philosiphical musings.
makshobelosa 1 year ago
hehe "owner's manual". that was shallow, really shallow. Just like the toothbrush. So when catholics and protestants bash eachothers brains out, they are acting out their morals? help me dudes
Vnicolas 2 years ago
if people believe in god thats fine
if people dont that fine
stop trying to change what people believe in
AceofDimonds0 2 years ago
if people cant do good just for the hell of doing good without the need for a god, then they're bad people.
Xmin2x 2 years ago
Why is the rating high?
secularenegadether 2 years ago
"Don't try to push it on other people". I'll be sure to tell that to the next evangelising asshole who knocks on my door and tells me I'm going to burn eternally in hell. Gracias Padre.
xburningheavensx 2 years ago 4
As always, just one view from Fox 'News'.
artyfarty2 2 years ago
Cars don't come with "owner's manual", idiot.
neither does life.
FOX news is pathetic.
hybridamerica 2 years ago 2
Oh my Lemmy. That priests voice makes me want to punch a baby!
TheCokesnorter 2 years ago
ok so you get a fucking priest on your show. OF COURSE HES GOING TO SAY THERES A GOD. and i have trouble even considering anything he said because the first thing he said was "i believe in the human nature and the human way"........uh so why are you a priest? because you know priests cant have sex and actually have a human way. its all based on god.
sssx5 2 years ago
Wait, so if there is no god, Father Jonathan will have no reason to believe that a human being has more value than, say, a rodent? (OK everybody, no one tell him there is no god! shhh)
DogmaFight 2 years ago 3
OMG the priest is so full of shit
confusa115 2 years ago 3
This guy is a joke of a Catholic.
LordMalice6d9 2 years ago
At 2:05, did he get tongue-tied or does this guy really think the word is pronounced (or spelled) as "pros-T-elytize"?
That's funny, coming from a guy who proselytizes for a living.
Boycorrupted 2 years ago
wow making people think? how dare we.
TheCheshiresmile9 2 years ago
what the hell do you know about human nature? You believe in original sin? You've done nothing and just come out of the womb but something is wrong with you. When are we going to grow out of needing god? Why should we need him if he exists? Why should superior being NEED worshipping or require you to abide by it's laws?
TheCheshiresmile9 2 years ago
Why don't they ever have someone on the show to represent atheists, it's always this "Johnathan Morris" douche.
SplaserStudios 2 years ago
A cute analogy, admittedly.
If it were true that people were good only because they believed in God, then they would all qualify as psychopaths and I probably should be glad that they do believe in Big Brother.
lepolemicist 2 years ago
2:25 Wow you need to be 'motivated' to be nice to someone? That's a shame...
2:55 Don't push it on other people??? You mean like go door to door and hand out newletters or harass people on street corners?
grlockett 2 years ago 30
This priest is douche bag, no one is gonna go back to god when they lose their job. Thats a weak ass statement
C0mm0nS3ns3 2 years ago
I wish it to be known that I have an enormous knob. Thank you.
tinytina789 2 years ago 2
Hey good Father, and how do you know that that car was designed (if it ever was) by your specific manufacturer? R= Through faith? or just because it suits your local fantasies? How DO YOU KNOW?
prgalois 2 years ago
ha, we say we can be good without you and they take it as an act of war.
whydid666 2 years ago
lol the priest is a clown, and I'd have destroyed his bullshit logic in about ten seconds. lol this surely isn't the best teh RCC can do. Then again... it IS fox
bacchus1975 2 years ago
This crap coming from a guy whose Church (Catholic) says its ok to lie, if it protects the church or if its in the interest of the church......which is how those Catholic pedophile priests got away with it for so long......
rgwholt 2 years ago
Booo-wooo
callac 2 years ago
were there secular education in madrassas the world wud be safer. its a matter of time before irrational belief becomes nasty
adzug 2 years ago 2
Fox has no bias, I'm sure the Atheist, and the Rabbi and the.. oh wait, they only have a christian priest on......... odd..... how dare they 'try to get people to join them'.... because no missionary has ever tried that... idiots
truckman3677 2 years ago 4
Life is a Car, read the manual LIKE EVERYONE DOES ;). Great argument Father Fallacy. U've convinced us all.
LuminousTruth 2 years ago 2
Especially since the manual was written by a pack of ignorant stone age people who didn't know what the hell an automobile was.
fuckisnotadirtyword 2 years ago 4
Exactly! We are suppose to rely on the "word" of a people that didn't know where the sun went every day, or why it rained or snowed, or what an earthquake or thunder was--I sure hope not. I'll take what science says over that any day. Now is there some omnipotent creator out there somewhere--who knows. As far as we know, the Big Bang could have been some "child's" science experiment in some other world.
WAKeele 2 years ago
This guy is a condescending pompous ass
blooperfan1 2 years ago 3
"I can live without god... wonderful but don't try to push another people" the SAME argument can be used against religious people who ALWAYS try to change you and take you to their church... and by the way, I don't need the idea of an afterlife reward for doing good in this life and my motivation is not god (any of them) AT ALL.
YamilGU 2 years ago 4
But don't you know that true morality can only be motivated by a selfish fear of hell, and an even more selfish desire to kiss an imortal being's ass eternally so that he will give you orgasms in heaven because of the sacrifice he made to himself that allowed him to return to heaven to have his ass kissed by you for all eternity? How can you possibly not see that when you look at the trees?
fuckisnotadirtyword 2 years ago 2
Father Jonathan is my favorite gay priest.
CynthiaSwallows 2 years ago 4
lol at needless self repression
fuckisnotadirtyword 2 years ago
if you need an imaginary friend in order to be good, then you are one weak sad excuse for an intelligent being. not to mention fucking gullible.
Secnateb 2 years ago
I think its insulting to the human race to suggest we cant be good without god
sebd2507 2 years ago 6
That is insulting. It's a good thing no one said you can't be good without God.
elementblue780 2 years ago
Shit, my kids were disobedient, I better flip to the section in the owners manual on how to deal with that.
MrAmmo 2 years ago 5
it says you have to stone them to death. jeez, harsh manual...
Bardlettt 2 years ago 3
Fox News is idiotic.
benjamingebhart 2 years ago 5
are the two hosts gay together?
up2trix 2 years ago 3
"but dont push it on people" oh the hypocrisy burns so deeply
evb4mvp 2 years ago 30
@evb4mvp thank you for saying that.
themine691 1 year ago
Haha. Bible...car manual...its all the same xD
Kozzalols 2 years ago
Don't be ridiculous. Everything works as the car manual says it does.
marius1ro 2 years ago
the Bible is like a Manual, a fake manual, full of bullshit.
quisqueyatv 2 years ago 4
brilliant
beerbeerbear742 2 years ago
True. My deepest apologies goes out to the car manuals.
Kozzalols 2 years ago
really bored and cute ^^.. Anyone want to chat or swap pics
seesxyyuamber 2 years ago
Go to craigslist you filthy WHORE!
southpore1 2 years ago
A higher power makes me charitable? Thats not true for some. That may not even be true for many. Many people give because they want to see their fellow man succeed, just like they did. They want to treat others as they themselves have been treated. This is called good will towards one another. Why cant this be innate? Why does it have to come from a "god"?
vidfreak56 2 years ago 2
How is that against christ, it doesn't even mention Jesus Christ. It says be good without religon, just for being good. If people are being good because of religon, I would rather them be mean rather than "good" for false belifes.
myg0tpurepunk 2 years ago
How dare that preist tell athiests not to "push it on other people". What a laughably hypocritical comment!
gextvedde 2 years ago
pedo father
Reiff444 2 years ago 2
Fox "news" is now more dangerous than Osama bin Laden.
Apophiswillkillus 2 years ago
And we only give presents because we believe in Santa Clause!
notmycupotea 2 years ago
All these anti atheist vids from fox news...
Not one of them (except for the edited richard dawkins ones) has an atheist to defend their point of view
irtimed 2 years ago 3
Ah, cretins: Krist said not to call anyone Father but the one in heaven.
Ghenesis said all animals—breathers—had souls as well (nepesh).
We are the creators of cars and Man; there is no lone instruction manual. Scripture/Buybull is fail, full of liges and bad advise, full of fictions and fantasies and plagiarisms from pagan God-plays. Scripture had many Gods, not only one, and many sons of Gods. Too bad cretins can't read Hibirijt.
alysdexia 2 years ago