You can air trip in Castle Siege. WHen you're going to that lava pit, and you're far from the stage and you trip right before it changes, you air trip and fall through the air. I agree, Sonic air trip is a glitch, but I swear, this happened to Marth.
@Shock0055 Well, Sakurai did add in random tripping to a fighting game, which is pretty unheard of and stupid as it is. I guess that, along with the other many stupid things Sakurai added, made people view him in such a negative way that they would think he would add in something such as tripping in mid-air. XD
Yea this happened to my friend on wifi except with sonic. Wen he used his upB I noticed the landing animation didn't occur so I led him offstage & let him jump XD.
hey dude i didthe same thing the glitch doesn't occurr.....;p MY GAMES BETTER I THINK ITS CUZ MY BRO SPILLED STEAMING HOT TEA ALL OVER THE CD ON THE DAY I GOT IT LOL!
This is not a glitch. This is, in fact, a gameplay mechanic used to prevent stalling on edgegrab. If you do this with other up-b moves that cancel when they grab the ledge, their "falling state" is triggered when next they jump. Try it with Marth. Grab the ledge with Dolphin Slash, then jump onto the stage from the ledge. you will take more time than normal to recover from that.
Again, it's not a glitch. It's just the game making you pay for trying to avoid falling state.
Then what about when Pikachu is on the ledge, falls down, jumps back up, uses thunder, then quick attacks back to the ledge? Lather, Rinse, and repeat. How is that not affected?
Can Sonic grab the ledge after using his spring? Yes. Can he drop from the ledge, do back-air, jump back, use spring to grab ledge, lather, rinse and repeat? The answer is yes.
When he jumps into the stage from the ledge, he also gets the falling state lag, instead of Air Trip. This is what I'm talking about. The only reason Sonic is the only one who gets Air Trip is because he's the only one who can meet the requisites. I'll continue this in another post.
Sonic is the only one who can get to the floor with his up-b without a landing animation. Check the video out, he touches the floor and keeps going, he doesn't actually "land".
When Pikachu Quic attacks, he has a landing animation if he hits the floor. Landing Animation = No Air Trip.
The edge-grab thing applies when you land, not when you drop off, so you can do anything as long as u don't land. The moment you land, you get the landing animation from falling state. Mail if you don't get it.
Well if it does apply to other characters they aren't as noticeable as Ganondorf.
With Ganon you can't shield for about 1.5 secs after getting back on the stage so you fall for a lot of attacks if you don't blow the enemy away beforehand.
I don't think that's the same as air tripping, that's just lag (not like internet lag, but something close to landing lag, like when you SHFF an aerial).
As shown in this video, air tripping causes Sonic to enter the free fall animation, prohibiting him from recovery. If you Dolphin Slash on the edge with Marth, then run off the edge and jump, you will not have the same effect, as Marth can still recover.
Between the time of my last post and this one, I've noticed that no matter how much you do that with Marth, he'll always have the slower landing animation, even if he ledge-grabbed. Hence, he doesn't go to free fall in the next jump.
My point is that the free fall Sonic goes into is because he canceled landing animation. Check out N00Br101's post. You can't do up+b twice in the same jump, unless you got hit after the first one.
I was in no moment talking about Air Tripping when I mentioned Marth. I just replied to you thinking you were replying to something else, so I thought a correction was in order. Apparently, I was wrong about being wrong.
I was only talking about the "glitch" on my first post. The rest was talking about lag on landing.Since you already knew all this, no need for me to keep rambling.
shows how everyones a freeking noob... need the spring to disapear wtf... should reply to everyone that they are retards.
when you use sonics spring jump and land at its hight in any ground it glitches out and dosent register sonic as a renewable 2nd or thrid jump...same as jumping onto a ladder with the spring jump. It isnt mecanics its a glitch... the only way to negate this is to jump back onto the stage.
uh..... after you use the spring, sonic spins while falling. when he tried to jump after using the spring, he spun and was immobilized without using the spring
Not a glitch, you need to dissapear the spring first. In fact, Sonic can do mora than 3 jumps on air, but of course, he needs the spring to dissapear first (and maybe you need to wall jump too, dont remember). You can do this on large stages though, enough time to make the spring dissapear and you dont die.
@YootubeHatesMe I kinda play Brawl Minus. I HATE Brawl+, which I believe makes too many unnatural and illogical changes to the game. The game I actually promote is Balanced Brawl.
I'll need to test this with Dedede, but I don't think it happens. I've landed exactly when he would normally start going down from the top of the up-B, and I've never had that effect before.
I don't think there's a problem with King Dedede. Sonic's is different in that he can attack after using the Spring Jump. So either it is Sonic-exclusive, or exclusive to (some) characters that can attack after using their Up-B.
If you are afraid that you accidentally did this, you can just short hop while on the ground and fast fall to quickly get rid of this lingering effect, since this effect is gone once you go airborne and land, again.
He's saying that if you use the spring-jump as Sonic, and hit the ground at the top of your spring jump, (just before you start going down) then the next time you are in the air, you'll "Air trip", or basically, be helpless until you hit the ground.
Don't get what? If you don't get what I'm trying to show, then maybe you should read the description before you leave a comment saying you don't get it.
how do you not get it, Taioko described it perfectly. It's very simple. Sonic Up-B's off the stage and if he hits the ground during the peak of it (top of his up-b jump) The next time he is in the air he will go into free fall (what happens after using the up-b) Even though he touched ground ad should be able to use it again.
If you still don't get it, don't worry about it, it's not that big a deal.
Wow...I've never really noticed that before lol. Most times, I use that spring to recover, then proceed to use a jump-side A attack or some other lol.
Not really. Before, when people didn't know the cause of this glitch, they would only find out when it's too late. But now that it's known, you can simply jump while on the ground and fast-fall/d-air to land quickly, thus getting rid of the lingering effect of the glitch.
well in sonic racing it said my feet dont touch the ground so sonic must run on thin air sometimes and he trips i guess? i don't even see tripping...
ilikeGorillaz1 4 weeks ago
did I miss something? where was the glitch?
marplatense31 1 month ago
You know you fai at life when you trip in the air 8l
svilaro1102 5 months ago
what was just happening?
mporkyp 7 months ago
Air tripping, a feat only sonic could perfect.
speed2011 7 months ago
hm what about g&w? would that also be possible?
LinkinHand 10 months ago
@LinkinHand I can't remember is G&W was one of them, but I'm pretty sure he is. Snake is another one.
PerfectChaos7 10 months ago
@PerfectChaos7 yeah if you grab g&w when he's in his up b he can't use another up b so it should be the same
LinkinHand 10 months ago
The guy who had the BRILLIANT idea of tripping should be shot...
troidberg 1 year ago
You can air trip in Castle Siege. WHen you're going to that lava pit, and you're far from the stage and you trip right before it changes, you air trip and fall through the air. I agree, Sonic air trip is a glitch, but I swear, this happened to Marth.
corbinbleu77 1 year ago
Sonic's so fast, he trips on the oxygen.
sonichomeboy90 1 year ago
Wait... Who thought this wasn't a glitch?
Shock0055 1 year ago
@Shock0055 If you read the description, then you wouldn't need to ask this...
PerfectChaos7 1 year ago
@PerfectChaos7 I did, but im just asking how could this could've not been a glitch. Its kind of obvious its a glitch, isn't it?
Shock0055 1 year ago
@Shock0055 Well, Sakurai did add in random tripping to a fighting game, which is pretty unheard of and stupid as it is. I guess that, along with the other many stupid things Sakurai added, made people view him in such a negative way that they would think he would add in something such as tripping in mid-air. XD
PerfectChaos7 1 year ago
thats not tripping tharts they way he falls dumbass
sab2fan24 1 year ago
@sab2fan24 I never said anything about tripping, dumbass. And thanks for replying to a post I made 1 month ago. Thanks for listening. Bye
Shock0055 1 year ago
@sab2fan24 You dolt, he only falls like that of the spring. He fell off the ground and couldn't recover!
1trueNRG 1 year ago
see the no jups glitch video on the right, it's a proof of this glitch affects snake too! :(
Doomolish 1 year ago
Conclusion? Gay tripping is gay.
AqworldsMrPwnzy 1 year ago
boring
MrROBINKONG 1 year ago
Kinda sad when a rather serious glitch like this is overlooked, even after delaying the game so long.
MyAccountsDisappear 2 years ago
That's what you get when you try to PC drop with up-b lol
luigiluigix2 2 years ago
This often happens to me when i play with Sonic in Subspace Emmissary, now i know why, thanks a lot.
now i'm going to do a "safety jump" when i see that the landing animation doesn't happen.
HammerMario2308 2 years ago
OMG this is so BAD! There isnt any Air tripping you only do the B-up attacc of sonic! You ca see it on 0:43 !!!!
dorianchin 2 years ago
in conclusion : gay tripping IS GAY!
jasonreusch123 2 years ago 5
gay tripping IS gay...
it is a glitch though
AL3X7770 2 years ago
DO A SONIC ROLL!
SacredFlameXxX 2 years ago 6
The music in this is EPIC
clubgoer08 2 years ago
This explains all the BS I get when playing Sonic...
stelthninjaX 2 years ago 7
ya thats wat it is, this glitch
EoGrim 2 years ago
Sonic do a Barrel Roll.
TheWerdermann 2 years ago 6
Sonic's pretty emo. =P
VirgoTheCougar 2 years ago 9
...LOL.
Quite strange. Never seen/tried this before.
nifanatic 2 years ago
Ie tested this & it can be done with. Sonic, snake, and pit.
Korakira 2 years ago
Really? Pit?, that would expalin alot of bullshit moments.
CaptainVonFurry 2 years ago
Yea this happened to my friend on wifi except with sonic. Wen he used his upB I noticed the landing animation didn't occur so I led him offstage & let him jump XD.
I think theres more characters but I 4got
Korakira 2 years ago
did u try game and watch? does it work wit him too?
kirox777 2 years ago
Not sure. i would test it right now but my wii is being repaired so i cant
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hey dude i didthe same thing the glitch doesn't occurr.....;p MY GAMES BETTER I THINK ITS CUZ MY BRO SPILLED STEAMING HOT TEA ALL OVER THE CD ON THE DAY I GOT IT LOL!
navataru 2 years ago
Yoshi's pwning you and he's just standing there!
ManiacforZelda 2 years ago 7
Wtf O_O
Mari0Blaze 2 years ago
This happend to me in 15 min multiman brawl, I had 2 minutes left and as sonic I ran off the edge and out of nowhere he "air tripped"
theMATTaz 3 years ago
Sonic is broken XD
CyberGlitch 3 years ago 2
It's almost as bad as the teleporting glitch.
I've died a couple of times because of that.
PhoenixRage07 3 years ago
what the hell i don't get it
PlXer0 3 years ago
he make up b, land and when he comes to the air he's falling just like he did is up b
TaliaTxT 3 years ago
lol that truly sucks. One of the worst glitches to have in a real brawl
hdrevolution123 3 years ago 7
I belive it only happens if sonic WALKS/RUNS OFF HIMSLEF if he gets hit then he can do his up-b again but not if he walks off him self...
N00Br101 3 years ago
TAKE THAT YUNA! SUCK A D!
mikeyzor 3 years ago
O I GET IT srry :(
aba005 3 years ago
This is not a glitch. This is, in fact, a gameplay mechanic used to prevent stalling on edgegrab. If you do this with other up-b moves that cancel when they grab the ledge, their "falling state" is triggered when next they jump. Try it with Marth. Grab the ledge with Dolphin Slash, then jump onto the stage from the ledge. you will take more time than normal to recover from that.
Again, it's not a glitch. It's just the game making you pay for trying to avoid falling state.
Trevyc 3 years ago
Then what about when Pikachu is on the ledge, falls down, jumps back up, uses thunder, then quick attacks back to the ledge? Lather, Rinse, and repeat. How is that not affected?
Ryumi678 3 years ago
Ok, but riddle me this:
Can Sonic grab the ledge after using his spring? Yes. Can he drop from the ledge, do back-air, jump back, use spring to grab ledge, lather, rinse and repeat? The answer is yes.
When he jumps into the stage from the ledge, he also gets the falling state lag, instead of Air Trip. This is what I'm talking about. The only reason Sonic is the only one who gets Air Trip is because he's the only one who can meet the requisites. I'll continue this in another post.
Trevyc 3 years ago
Sonic is the only one who can get to the floor with his up-b without a landing animation. Check the video out, he touches the floor and keeps going, he doesn't actually "land".
When Pikachu Quic attacks, he has a landing animation if he hits the floor. Landing Animation = No Air Trip.
The edge-grab thing applies when you land, not when you drop off, so you can do anything as long as u don't land. The moment you land, you get the landing animation from falling state. Mail if you don't get it.
Trevyc 3 years ago 2
Really?
I thought this only applies to Ganondorf?
Well if it does apply to other characters they aren't as noticeable as Ganondorf.
With Ganon you can't shield for about 1.5 secs after getting back on the stage so you fall for a lot of attacks if you don't blow the enemy away beforehand.
RJay12291 3 years ago
It applies to about half of the characters.
Trevyc 3 years ago
I don't think that's the same as air tripping, that's just lag (not like internet lag, but something close to landing lag, like when you SHFF an aerial).
As shown in this video, air tripping causes Sonic to enter the free fall animation, prohibiting him from recovery. If you Dolphin Slash on the edge with Marth, then run off the edge and jump, you will not have the same effect, as Marth can still recover.
jkshoujk 2 years ago
There is no Air Tripping.
Between the time of my last post and this one, I've noticed that no matter how much you do that with Marth, he'll always have the slower landing animation, even if he ledge-grabbed. Hence, he doesn't go to free fall in the next jump.
My point is that the free fall Sonic goes into is because he canceled landing animation. Check out N00Br101's post. You can't do up+b twice in the same jump, unless you got hit after the first one.
Trevyc 2 years ago
You just reiterated my post :P. I was saying that Marth doesn't air trip.
Otherwise, nice analysis, and of course you can't up+b twice... think of what ROB could do with two up+b's!
jkshoujk 2 years ago 2
I was in no moment talking about Air Tripping when I mentioned Marth. I just replied to you thinking you were replying to something else, so I thought a correction was in order. Apparently, I was wrong about being wrong.
I was only talking about the "glitch" on my first post. The rest was talking about lag on landing.Since you already knew all this, no need for me to keep rambling.
Trevyc 2 years ago
Think about what yoshi could do with two up-b's! Oh right, die anyway :P
Treytheredrebel 2 years ago
never die maybe?
flamedragon3088 2 years ago
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give me back 53 seconds of my life you jerk
heroicblues 3 years ago
u would of wasted them anyways
pBluescript 3 years ago 31
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in a better way
heroicblues 3 years ago
ROFL OWNED
iTelluWHHOT 3 years ago 3
Kokoro makes a point there.
Why are you noobs obsessed with Spring placement? I doubt I'll recieve a mature answer...
TGTyroshi 3 years ago
shows how everyones a freeking noob... need the spring to disapear wtf... should reply to everyone that they are retards.
when you use sonics spring jump and land at its hight in any ground it glitches out and dosent register sonic as a renewable 2nd or thrid jump...same as jumping onto a ladder with the spring jump. It isnt mecanics its a glitch... the only way to negate this is to jump back onto the stage.
KokoroNoSama 3 years ago
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u are stupid it aint a glitch
Supernoscoper 3 years ago
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Air tripping is not a glitch because Luigi's final smash causes you to trip in midair.
jasonese1 3 years ago
this happens to me alot, thank you beause now i know how to prevent it
Blaze020103 3 years ago 2
he used A FREAKIN SPRING NOT A GLITCH
aba005 3 years ago
uh..... after you use the spring, sonic spins while falling. when he tried to jump after using the spring, he spun and was immobilized without using the spring
wordock2 3 years ago
Not a glitch, you need to dissapear the spring first. In fact, Sonic can do mora than 3 jumps on air, but of course, he needs the spring to dissapear first (and maybe you need to wall jump too, dont remember). You can do this on large stages though, enough time to make the spring dissapear and you dont die.
NaneRulz 3 years ago
You need to let the spring disappear first i think
kirbyop 3 years ago
always happens to me with meta knight
ominousZX 3 years ago
how doses it happen with mk
highlander5523 3 years ago 2
man once this fucking glitch happened to me, why couldn't it have been the double spring glitch
shenron7 3 years ago
no wonder fox, falco, marth, and ike never recover for me.
Tyko64 3 years ago
wow...that's horrible...
snowbonez 3 years ago
Of course it's a glitch. Read my replies in the Air Trip thread.
FallenAngelII 3 years ago
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Sonics recorvery is already godly, thank god it has this to lower it a few levels, although he is still cheap in my opinion.
LumpoNinja 3 years ago
Sonic is not cheap! Sonic is the best!
Just kidding. In my opinion he's one of the worst characters. His attacks have stupid range and are weak.
vlaaaaaaa1 3 years ago
That happens to me a lot...
seventhfonist425 3 years ago
We seriously need a Brawl 2.0. XD
A2ZOMG 3 years ago 38
@A2ZOMG Check out Brawl Plus and Brawl Minus, you can download em free for wiis with or without homebrew.
for the vid, i think thats just the game punishing you further for being sonic :]
YootubeHatesMe 1 year ago
@YootubeHatesMe I kinda play Brawl Minus. I HATE Brawl+, which I believe makes too many unnatural and illogical changes to the game. The game I actually promote is Balanced Brawl.
A2ZOMG 1 year ago
I'll need to test this with Dedede, but I don't think it happens. I've landed exactly when he would normally start going down from the top of the up-B, and I've never had that effect before.
gamer2557 3 years ago
I don't think there's a problem with King Dedede. Sonic's is different in that he can attack after using the Spring Jump. So either it is Sonic-exclusive, or exclusive to (some) characters that can attack after using their Up-B.
PerfectChaos7 3 years ago
Even if you do it that way, when DDD lands, he still acts like he landed. He crashes or lands on the floor, unlike Sonic. There's a big difference.
Trevyc 3 years ago
so wait at the end of Sonic's up-b you are not supposed to be able to move correct?
SmokzTrueno 3 years ago
...what?
...all I saw was you jumping off the side.
the description didn't help.
kittenluvermeowz 3 years ago
when sonic is spinning like that, that means he just used his spring and not allowed to jump.
seventhfonist425 3 years ago 5
Is there a way to avoid this? It seems like it gimps Sonic pretty bad if you choose to recover like this.
ShadowWolf3998 3 years ago 3
If you are afraid that you accidentally did this, you can just short hop while on the ground and fast fall to quickly get rid of this lingering effect, since this effect is gone once you go airborne and land, again.
PerfectChaos7 3 years ago
great find! i figured sakurai wouldn't be that stupid =D.
smasher32 3 years ago
Nice find PerfectChaos. Perhaps this will finally quit speculating over this. Great work! ^_^
UndrDogSSBM 3 years ago
I did read the descdription. it was too complicated...
Miskenesco 3 years ago
He's saying that if you use the spring-jump as Sonic, and hit the ground at the top of your spring jump, (just before you start going down) then the next time you are in the air, you'll "Air trip", or basically, be helpless until you hit the ground.
Hope I helped.
Taioko 3 years ago 3
Yes, you did. Thanks much!
Miskenesco 3 years ago
......I don't get it.
Miskenesco 3 years ago
Don't get what? If you don't get what I'm trying to show, then maybe you should read the description before you leave a comment saying you don't get it.
PerfectChaos7 3 years ago
how do you not get it, Taioko described it perfectly. It's very simple. Sonic Up-B's off the stage and if he hits the ground during the peak of it (top of his up-b jump) The next time he is in the air he will go into free fall (what happens after using the up-b) Even though he touched ground ad should be able to use it again.
If you still don't get it, don't worry about it, it's not that big a deal.
SuLLyZorZ 3 years ago
Wow...I've never really noticed that before lol. Most times, I use that spring to recover, then proceed to use a jump-side A attack or some other lol.
zeroknight55 3 years ago
So, this glitch probably works with any character that can attack after their upB.
YOSHIERIDER 3 years ago
I cannot confirm it, but I think that happened to me with G&W once, but I couldn't tell very well.
CHubas7 3 years ago
Very nice find, PC. Hope your info is 100% accurate.
lengeta 3 years ago
There's more air tripping though. I did it recently with my Snake. Perhaps the same mechanisms work with snake's up-b?
1235096a 3 years ago
thats should stop a few sonic players
mariomasterdustin 3 years ago
Not really. Before, when people didn't know the cause of this glitch, they would only find out when it's too late. But now that it's known, you can simply jump while on the ground and fast-fall/d-air to land quickly, thus getting rid of the lingering effect of the glitch.
PerfectChaos7 3 years ago
stop sonic players? this will only make my better buddy.
sasukesucks101 3 years ago
Impressive. Thank you for the discovery
Omniomega0 3 years ago