the 36% are just dishonest people using the god of the gaps and the 47% one, thats just scary. Hey isnt that about as high as the % of people who vote republican, LOL.
In America everyone has a right to their opinion, and a right to voice their opinion. The problem is Americans take this another step and think all opinions are equally valid. I am entitled to believe the moon is made of legos but that view isn't valid. Part of the problem is when pseudo intellectuals step in and try to "compromise" and say that all views are equally valid and that creationist also have a "theory". Leave science to scientists, the experts.
Provide a legitimate "Missing Link" or STFU. An Evil Illusion installed into public text books using a diabolical fraud, Piltdown Man Hoax (1913-53) and that science fiction was sustained with a series of more diabolical frauds, by Satanists posing as scientists. Never has been a legitimate missing link and never will be a legitimate missing link,100 years of teaching Satanic Fraud as Scientific fact. Pathetic, holding science as sacred, yet abandon ethics & intergrity to sustain fraud.
Obviously the last book you read was a government text, assigned by a government schoolteacher working in a government facility before graduating to reading government assigned training manuals. Had you actually read something beyond what you were assinged to read you would be well aware books written by historians tell a different story then what is found in government texts. Readers have a choice to blindly believe your buzzard spew or validate what I presented.
@waketheoblivious Wake you never disappoint. You live is such a land of delusion that no known level or argument could penetrate it. The fact that you still quote Piltdown and ask for a missing link is proof of this. Tell me, was Kent Hovind your professor?
@waketheoblivious There you go again Wacky, spouting about something you know nothing about.
The shroud is now accepted by the majority of independant scientist and a lot of christian ones as well as a 14th Century fake. Science proved that.
Of course the church rejected the carbon dating evidence, because it didn't fit with their preconcieved ideas, but funnily enough, they have stopped the possibility of any more test.
What are they afraid of? could it be they know it's a fake. I think so.
Orce Man was nothing short of criminal. They had created an entire environment dipicting what the Orce Man would have looked like. Quite similar to Nebraska man, when he was represented as the missing link. After Orce Man had been hyped for over a year as the newest we finally have the real "missing link" it was determined to be a 3 mo old donkey bone. The Hoaxes, Fruad and pure unadulterated bullshit associated with Evolution is no longer humerous it's Satanic.
waketheoblivious, who created and hyped? If it's like Nebraska Man, that's not the scientists.
So on the hoaxes, fraud, and bullshit associated with Common Descent/Theory of Evolution and passing scientific review, so far you have 1 instance. That's not exactly a large quantity.
100 years of a diabilical Hoax sustained by a series of diabolical frauds and having never legitimately met the standard of "irrefutable evidence" is not a simple mistake it constitutes a crime against humanity. There are honorable men and honorable scientists who do share the same fundamental commitment to the truth regardless of their devotion to an particular vocation. "To Thine Ownself Be True" - Shakespeare "The Truth Shall Set You Free" - Holy Bible .......
waketheoblivious, Well, with the exception of Piltdown Man, none of the actual hoaxes you mention made it past the scientists, so the scientific method appears to be doing its job well. They did eventually get Piltdown Man as well.
Eighty percent of the Worlds News Media is owned & controlled by one man, Ruper Murdoch. Watch the ytube video labled, JFK Famous Speech. In that famous speech the President literally begs the News Media to help him expose a "Global Monolithic Conspiracy". Instead they did as they were ordered and helped cover up the assasination of JFK. Murdered by the very conspiracy he attempted to alert us to. Operation Northwoods, Operation Vigillant Warior, Vigillant Guardian, ect..
waketheoblivious, that's the percentage of the world's population his news reaches, not the percentage he owns.
Operation Northwoods was canned, and all the claims of conspiracies in VW & VG I've seen were filled with garbage. If you have a site that isn't full of idiocy and drive by research, I might be interested in seeing it.
Operation Northwoods was a CIA plan to disguise as Cubans and attack American military bases to garner full public support for a war against Cuba. JFK immediately fired his Jt Chief of Staff for even having proposed a plan that was treasonous. He should have immediately declared the CIA an organization of Terrorists and held them accountable for TREASON. As is he didn't and they assasinated him. The Secret Service was ordered to stand down so the driver could murder JFK.
waketheoblivious , LOL... he should have held the whole CIA responsible for someone else's plan? I think the JCS got off lightly for proposing a plan like that, but going off and imprisoning someone else won't hold up in court and won't help.
Read the names of all the other CIA plans which have been executed. One of those plans was to aid the Mousad in committing Terrorist Acts in Europe. JFK fired his Joint Chief for proposing a plan that would have destroyed Federal Property, constituted TREASON and would have resulted in a War against Cuba. They would have gotten blamed for starting a war they never started and the Satanic CIA would have escaped being held accountable for their Crimes agains humanity.
waketheoblivious, so are you saying you didn't intend to link punishing the CIA to Operation Northwood? Did "He should have immediately" mean immediately once he entered office instead of immediately once we was presented with Operation Northwoods?
So if you meant when JFK entered office, you wanted to imprison them without presenting any evidence.
If you meant at ON presentation, you wanted to punish them for someone else's crimes.
Either way, it won't hold up in court, and won't help.
With that being said, yes, there are several past cases like the ones you bring up where individuals in the CIA and FBI who should have been prosecuted for their crimes, and in many cases along with their supervisor. Imprisoning the other ones with them would just make us a police state.
CIA, MK Ultra Program and many other of their disgusting filthy Satanic Programs violated the Constitutional rights of the very people for which they are public servants. The CIA covertly bringing Ex Nazis to area 51 after WW II is a sickening disregard for the millions of lives those men were responsible for. They continued with the same type of horific programs that took place under Hitler only this time the Nazi CIA played the role of Hitlers Nazis. Two of the ...
Sadly, the honorable agents for both the CIA and FBI get painted with the brush of their corrupt leadership. Both organizations were established using highly questionable manuevers and those who were responsible had ties to Satanism and the interests of the World Bankers. Effectively, surrounded by corruption little most agents could do, since they are surrounded by corruption on all sides. Those who did report the corruption were eliminated. William Cooper, Chip Tatum
I share your compassion 4 the innocent men & women who were naive to the corruption that was installed decades before. The history of the Illumanati infiltration of American Government, was able to thrive because the Media was manipulated to participate. American Public were played like a fiddle to argue democrat/republican, because corruption acts like mental kryptonite. The CIA Covert actions such as Iran/Contra, Cocaine trafficing ect is Blatant attack against humanity.
Actually, your last few comments surprise. In most cases surrounding 911, Evolution, Atheism and Satanism few who defended the Offical 911 story bothered to investigate their own position. You managed to find time to research and form your own opinion. For what it is worth, when someone sets out to attack and diminsih God, they rarely even consider the truth. I have no hidden agenda. My goal is to wake the oblivious to the fact that both Satan and God exist.
waketheoblivious,I work on being open minded, since without being open minded one cannot learn the truth unless they start with a lucky guess.
I think that we also see a lot of people going along with what they see as an authority figure. As children we have to rely on what authority figures tell us, so perhaps it becomes habit.
But blindly following authority causes problems, because no human is an authority on everything, and they may not be reliable, or honest.
Politicians for example... one need only look at the campaign compared to their actions after they are elected to see they are willing to lie to you, and since they focus on their next election, not what the country will be like when your child becomes an adult, they aren't too reliable either.
So on events like the WTC attack, there's no question that they might lie to me... the question is "are they lying to me now", and "does anyone else have a better grasp on what happened.
There are two video series that are quite comprehensive in what they present. Watch anything which William Cooper was involved with. He was never debunked and accurately predicted 911 four months in advance. Cooper was a former US Navy Intelligence Officer. Cooper was murdered by Fed & local authorities on trumped up tax charges Oct of 2001. Chip Tatum was a former CIA Hit man who told his story to and he was found dead washed up on a beach a few months later.
@waketheoblivious It's wacky wakey. Still peddling your rubbish I see. Still dodging the questions with your old conpiracy theories.and superstitious garbage.
You prove yourself a dishonest man. Freedom of Speech and Conspiracy Theory are mutually exclusive terms. Meaning, one can NOT profess belief in Freedom of Speech and ever label the search for the Truth a Conspiracy without proving themselves a liar & a fraud. What question do you claim I am dodging and what old conspiracy theory are you eluding too? I hold an advanced degree in Economics which requires logical objective progression of thought versus your subjective opinion.
@waketheoblivious I'm sorry, but a degree in economics does not impress me. I have worked all my life with "Graduates". I haven't been impressed by many of them.
You are the only one who impresses you and that stems from being an egotistical maniac and pathological liar. HonestMan describes something you have never been yet claim to be. You have proven yourself to be a liar and a fraud, spare us your opinion, since the opinion of a liar and a fraud is not something anyone except themselves care to hear.
Finally an element of honesty, you admitting you are sorry. Yes indeed you are one sorry lying fraud. At least you have finally come to grips with who and what you are, a lying pathetic fraud.
@waketheoblivious You have obviously mistaken my use of the word sorry.
In Britain, we also use that word purely as a measure of politeness, when we are going to say something that we know the person we are speaking is not going to like.
I'm sorry. Should have realised that someone like you would understand the concept of politeness.
Oops!! I've used it again. Sorry. :)
By the way, you still haven't answered the question. Sorry!!!
@HonestMan395 he wake is American and in his mind they invented the English language in the past I've seen him making remarks about someone using the Engish spelling instead of the american spelling
According to him, if you can use american english properly you can not be intelligent, he jus doesn't get the concept of World Wide Web
@waketheoblivious The questions you have avoided answering was when i've asked you for proof that god exists and that jesus existed, other than in the bible. I seem to remember that I'm still waiting. for an answer.
@waketheoblivious The questions you have avoided answering was when i've asked you for proof that god exists and that jesus existed, other than in the bible. I seem to remember that I'm still waiting. for an answer.
@waketheoblivious I will keep reprying to this with the remark that this post is hogwash and does not even make sense as well as it would show that your Search for the truth is a lie, seeing that you are calling evloutionary biology a Conspiracy
the word conspiracy theory or theorist labels those wh themselveso label the search for the truth a conspiracy
@Toudiyama < ------------ Satanic Nazi Shill, paid to promote his Godforsaken lifestyle. Constantly makes derogatory remarks about God and the Holy Bible yet his homepage friend's list is swimming in Satanic symbolism. A pathetic shell of a human being who demonstrates his ignorance by offering his opinion on a book he obviously has never read, the Holy Bible. Instead of reading the word of God, he chose to conciously remain ignorant and then champions his "how to be a looser lifestyle".
@waketheoblivious you are showing your own ignorance here the word yet implies a contradiction, me making derogatory remorks about the bible and its ficticious characters would not be in contradiction with a frienslist swimming in Satnic symbolism, if it was really swimming in Satanic Symbolism, which it isn't, but you don't care, seeing you continue this lie against anyone exposing you for the Fraud and liar you are
JFK immediately fired his JT Chief of Staff for having proposed the plan. The CIA controlled by men involved with the very Global Monolithic Conspiracy JFK spoke of in his "Famous Speech" video, literally begged the Media to help him expose that Global Monolithic Conspiracy. Former Top Naval Intelligence Official William Cooper disclosed that the driver, William Greer shot the President after Secret Serviceman in charge directed security to stand down. The CIA.....
The CIA was established by a president using executive orders. That President was also a member of the Satanic Illumanati. I am positive there are a great number of fine field agents within both the CIA and FBI that are unaware of what Sr Management is doing. How did the FBI/CIA sit back and allow Government officials to belong to Secret Societies when those types of clandestine memeberships broke a law specificlly making such involvement illegal. Bringing in ex-Nazis to..
@infinus5 i understand what you're trying to say but i disagree with you saying "even if there was definite proof that evolution occurs"
there is definite proof, and not just in the fossil record, but in every single field of science from genetics to psychology. its not a question of there being definite proof, its a question of the less educated and brainwashed not understanding it at all and preferring to take a position that does not require them to think "god did it"
My favourite story is how some American dicks think that god put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us :L, lol you got 49% of America there god, good one
to believe in evolution is no longer a decision, it is a fact. evolution is 95% likely to be true. Also you can see that americans with longer education( which mean that they probebly are smarter then the rest) are less likely to not believe in evolution. so i think that it is just a matter of knowledge. if you are high educated you will have more knowledge.
@gulbirk 95% it's not a fact. Don't tell people what to and not to believe in, in the end, it really isn't possable for us to exist anyway, yet we do.
@lolzomgz1337 ok then answer me these two questions. Nr 1: why do so many male animals fight over who is going to mate. and why is it so that only the winner of the fight gets to mate. Nr 2: why do educated americans believe in evolution, and americans that arent educated ( retards, the state of texas, and so on) believe in it. and why is it almsot only in america that you dont believe in it.
@gulbirk Ugh, you missed the point entirly, does it hurt you when someone believes in god? No? Then stop telling people what they "Should" and "Should't" think is true, thats not your call. Also a creationist's answer would properbly be "God made it so" (Not that i believe that) Ultimatly, no theory of creation could ever be proved / dissproved, so just let people think what they want to think.
@lolzomgz1337 well, i dont want to tell people what to think or not. but i just want to tell people not to think that evolution isnt real because life wont apear in a jar of peanut butter. im just want to point out that people shouldnt take this as evidence that evolution isnt real. im not saying that you shouldnt believe in creationsime forexample, but dont think evolution isnt real because of things like this.
@lolzomgz1337 not just in a word, it is dumb, it is redicolouses, i dont think the man with the peanut butter even knows what evolution is, evolution isnt the theory of how life started, it is the theory of how it evolved. this is why im not religious, religion is holding back science, also all retards like the man in the video are. and im pretty sure that man is religious.
I don't think this is somthing to laugh about realy.
It's actualy fucking scary. Believing God created us is about the same as believing in the bookieman and let's be honost, if a grown-up sais he does that what you think of him?
Firstly, I hang my head because I am a U.S. citizen. 2ndly I find hope in our sheer volume. 12% of the U.S. pop gives us roughly 36 million people who have a brain. Finally, and this has been said ad nauseum, the theory of evolution explains the diversity of life not the origin of life. Science hasn't quite cracked that nut but abiogenesis looks promising.
I'm truly concerned because creationist are getting stronger. Textbooks are being altered. High level politicians refute evolution. Uhhh... Bush, Palin and other christian leaders believe that our assault on the Mid East was god inspired! It's a Jihad! WTF?
@TakesTwoToTango My wife is a Chinese Buddhist, who grew up in a Marxist idiology. I recently discovered she's a strict Darwinist. I asked her why. She replied, 'Because it's fucking obvious'. I'm from the UK. Here we have Darwin on the bank notes.
Also, by trying to prove that evolution is wrong, creationists also attack the whole fundamental base of physics, astronomy, geology, anthropology, palaentology, etc... Trying to prove that evolution is wrong means that the General Theory of Relativity must be wrong, because the speed of light isn't constant. All dating technics, developped by men of great inteligence, must also be wrong, simply because they believe it to be wrong. Belief has nothing to do with science.
If biologists are wrong about evolution, they might be wrong about medecin. If you ever get a serious illness, therefore, you should not go to the hospital, but to church, since prayer OBVIOUSLY works better than chemotherapy for fighting cancer. The most ironic part however is that most of the "debate" is held on the internet, another invention from scientists. The bible says nothing about the internet, does that make it non-existant?
this is worrying, very worrying. The whole "Teach the controversy" thing in america is a cham. There is no controversy. Scientists unequivocally agree that evolution happened, is happening, and will continue to happen. People who say that it's wrong because it says otherwise in the Bible are dissilusioned hypocrites. Fine, don't believe. But then don't use your i-pods, computers or cars because those were inventions created by "heathen" scientists.
Over 99% of biologists, the people most capable of making informed decisions on the matter, as well as 95% of all scientists, accept evolution as a *fact*, although the theory of how exactly it works (which is the infamous "theory of evolution") is, like all science theories, subject to revisions and refinement.
How ironic that at least 50% of the fundamentalists in our country think they know more about it because they've only read *one* book, and it wasn't even specifically about biology!
The thing about evolution that most people don't understand is that it is what is known as an accepted theory, which is only one step below scientific law. So it's proven to happen, it just isn't a scientific law.
Jesus was made up too. I know this because all of the pictures are fake. We don't even know what he looks like. How does an imaginary person have a great great grandson that appeared on T.V.?
"(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Many adults in Canada believe the theory of evolution is correct, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies. 59 per cent of respondents think human beings evolved from less advanced life forms over millions of years. Conversely, 22 per cent of respondents believe God created human beings in their present form within the last 10,000 years, while 19 per cent are not sure."
Still too low for my taste. At least our country handily beats the United States though.
In the UK around 85-90% of people believe in evolution. The Church of england and the vatican believe in evolution. Darwin is buried in westminster abbey.
honestly. if you came to england and said you dont accept evolution. or pritty much any european contry. youd get laughd at. especily if you said that the world was a few thousand years old too. why is the stupidest nation incharge of the most nukes??? can a smart american answer.....il blindly hope that they actualy exist
I am no longer going to say that I "believe" in evolution. One does not "believe in" a scientific theory. I will probably say that I "accept" the theory. My small part to erode the idea that one must choose between belief in God and acceptance of the Theory of Evolution.
heres why god had sod all to do with it.....if god created man in his own image.....go stand naked in front of a mirror....(and i include myself in this so do flame me)....and tell ....what sort of a crappy day was god having when he created you
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So basically this says that only 12% of americans believe evolution. The rest think that God made things just the way they are or at least guided the process. Sounds to me like 88% of americans believe in God! What do you have to say about that athiests??
That a large amount of the public should probably do a little more research into the theory of evolution in order to fully understand that it does, in fact, occur?
Well, put your stats together with these on the vids, and it tells you that most americans are really uneducated. What does it say about the 12%? That they must have quite a spine to stand agains such massive collective ignorance! Was that your point?
"Sounds to me like 88% of americans believe in God! What do you have to say about that athiests?? " You can't even count - yeah that is right - 12% accepts Evolution theiry but 36% (God Guided) + 47% (God created) = 83 % ! So 5 % didn't have opinion. Are other 83 % just like you who think that - No child left behind is a good idea ? I am atheist and from Latvia and it is horrifieing to watch at such delusional people like you.
did you miss the last part where they combined the charts? It said the smarter one is the less likely they are to believe in biblical creation. so in other words, 91% of smart people believe in evolution. and 72% of dumb people believe the bible.
Exactly.. "us citizens" (call them whatever you want) believe in creationism.. Don't assume that the rest of the continent has the same disability to tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
I'm well aware of the status of religion in North America, and many other parts of the world. But obviously not all US citizens believe in creationism. In fact, it's being shown that less and less are all the time. Hopefully we can weed all these bad delusions before... well... soon.
globetrekker2: "brainwashed minds of the stubborn who do not recognize that God made it all, the God rules it all, that God rules US all."
Lets talk about this brainwashing.
Where do you go every week since you were young and impressionable and told the same thing over and over again? To be taught who your master is and the bad things that will happen if you disobey and the good things if you obey? hmmm... still cant see? then you are too brainwashed beyond help.
"if evolution was true, we would see monkeys changing into Barak and Michelle Oboma, fish crawling up on land out of the sea, and sprouting legs. But there are no transitions like that in the fossils. disproving evolution right there. "
By that statement, you're claiming to be the biggest loser of all time. If losers cannot stand to lose and you will argue until you claim victory, because you always win, you're unwittingly labeling yourself as the biggest loser of them all.
Argue until you win because you can't stand to lose.
PS. When someone stops talking to you because you're too thick to understand does not make you the winner of an arguement to anyone other than yourself.
I am not stubborn, I just don't see any reason for there to be a god. It doesn't make me a fool; you do not accept everything people say without thinking critically about it, and I think critically about this question. You also might think critically about it but have come to a different conclusion. You truly believe we are going to hell so I can appreciate your comment. However, I'm not stupid, stubborn, or sick. I try to treat people exactly as I would want to be treated.
like i said, you will need an iq of around 100 to understand (and comprehend) the facts that i placed before you. so just screw off- what your doing isnt even an argument
It is time the Vatican canonize Darwin to Sainthood, to show contempt toward their wayward, retarded, inbred, american protestant cousins. Ignorance is one of the greatest sin. It should have been one of the 10 commandments, "Thou shall not be stupid"
look, Christianity falls apart without the old testament, the old testament was taken from Hebrew texts. although comparing the Christian texts with the Hebrew texts shows many disagreements between both translations.
ps. i too took on Christian, venomfangx (an idiot, but non the less) i too refuted his ridiculous claims- stop acting like you are the only one that could put on a decent argument
the old testament was translated from their original Hebrew counter part, even so, the translations were inaccurate and in fact went against each other a lot of the time. for instance, see Daniel 9:25-26 (the piece many Christians use as "proof" that Jesus is god.) both writing go against each other.
while the new testament was written over 200 years after Jesus died, from people who new people who supposedly knew Jesus (its unreliable)
not only that but there are statements in the new testament that completely contradict with each other showing that the new testament was poorly written
but you will probably need an iq of around 3 digits to understand what i just said, which i highly doubt you have
The idea that Darwin recanted on his deathbed is nothing but wishful thinking among those with your...cognitive tendancies, which happened to become a "fact" in the eyes of some, though no credible evidence has ever surfaced which supports it. Furthermore, Charles Darwin had no reason to convert on his deathbed, as he was an ordained Anglican minister who remained a christian until his last breath.
Well Darwin was a Christian before he discovered evolution, and he probably still believed in God the rest of his life. By the way...judge not lest he be judged? Ring any bells?
All of these polls are misleading. As Abraham Lincoln put it: "The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of society in the next." By these polls showing that more 'educated' people believe in evolution is simply by the fact that religion and creationism has been driven out of our schools. So, new generations opinions reflect what they are being taught in school now. It is not proof that one view is smarter than the other.
Perhaps, but I would say that as you get more educated, you are more likely to believe in evidence rather than fairy tales, fact rather than superstition, truth rather than stories.
Then you obviously didn't learn enough. I can't see how you can NOT accept evolution when you possess a decent understanding of it. Natural Selection + Random Genetic Mutation = Small Changes over short periods of time, which accumulate into large changes over large periods of time. Simple.
My theory: If they were not religious before and then are taught evolution, chances are they'll believe in it. A lot of people attend church mostly because of family and friends, and not a personal testimony. Later when they study year after year and are told directly and indirectly that what they believe is stupid they are likely to choose to believe what they are taught in school.
Lets assume a person's beliefs are solely based on what he is taught. If the school teaches: "religion is stupid" and in churches: "school is lying" then it is i feel the person can go both ways to believe something, IF he only believes what is told and not think for his own at all.
If we assume he do think for his own, and more educated ppl is more willing to think for his own and do his own research, and knows more stuffs. (cont.)
Yes, it does go both ways. I still think it's interesting to see that there are actually quite a few who go to church and have high education who still believe in the creation.
Most of the people I know who do not embrace evolution are religious but also very educated people, and if anything I would say that those who keep their faith after university studies at least they have spent a lot of time thinking things through, and I would not say they are dumber than anyone else.
Here in Norway religion is a subject in school. I think it should be taught, but I think it is impossible to find anyone who could actually teach it in a good way. It will always be biased one way or the other.
I don't care whether people believe in creationism or evolution, what I do care about is the parallel drawn between not believing in evolution and/or being religious and being dumb. There are a lot of intelligent religious people.
Yes, certainly, but i do not think religion and evolution cannot coexist. I believe there are many many intelligent men who are religious yet rational, eg George Coyne.
I do believe that there are still intelligent Young Earth Creationist around after the development of modern day evolutionary theory. Although i do not know any of them. It is safe to say they belong to the very minority.
There is no dispute within the scientific community though that evolution actually happened.
I am from the UK and can't believe that Americans are so dumb. Evolution is so obvious that even an eleven year old British child would understand it. I guess yanks in high school still think that santa brings gifts on xmas day and their teeth are worth a dollar to the tooth fairy.
History of diabolical "missing link" frauds, by Satanists posing as scientists:
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Manufactured Planted Evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
2009 Ida, Grossly Unsupportable Classification
2010 Sebida, equivelant of a deceased PetsMart Gerbil
*Evolution, Satanic science of a preponderance of bullshit, in lieu of irrefutable evidence
waketheoblivious 2 months ago
This is scary - come on USA! We in the rest of the world watch this in horror!
aden302000 7 months ago 2
@aden302000 We post-graduate students in the USA live in this horror! lol
TheRavensGhost 3 months ago
the 36% are just dishonest people using the god of the gaps and the 47% one, thats just scary. Hey isnt that about as high as the % of people who vote republican, LOL.
gulbirk 9 months ago
In America everyone has a right to their opinion, and a right to voice their opinion. The problem is Americans take this another step and think all opinions are equally valid. I am entitled to believe the moon is made of legos but that view isn't valid. Part of the problem is when pseudo intellectuals step in and try to "compromise" and say that all views are equally valid and that creationist also have a "theory". Leave science to scientists, the experts.
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We deserve to die.
scotty 1 year ago
Provide a legitimate "Missing Link" or STFU. An Evil Illusion installed into public text books using a diabolical fraud, Piltdown Man Hoax (1913-53) and that science fiction was sustained with a series of more diabolical frauds, by Satanists posing as scientists. Never has been a legitimate missing link and never will be a legitimate missing link,100 years of teaching Satanic Fraud as Scientific fact. Pathetic, holding science as sacred, yet abandon ethics & intergrity to sustain fraud.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious The NUT wake is at it again. Wake, you are one damaged dude. To bad you got fired from the government job of yours.
csadler 1 year ago
@csadler
Obviously the last book you read was a government text, assigned by a government schoolteacher working in a government facility before graduating to reading government assigned training manuals. Had you actually read something beyond what you were assinged to read you would be well aware books written by historians tell a different story then what is found in government texts. Readers have a choice to blindly believe your buzzard spew or validate what I presented.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious Wake you never disappoint. You live is such a land of delusion that no known level or argument could penetrate it. The fact that you still quote Piltdown and ask for a missing link is proof of this. Tell me, was Kent Hovind your professor?
Laughing right in your face..... :-)
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Partial list of diabolical frauds, presented by Satanists posing as scientists. The ficticious "Missing Link":
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Diabolical Manufactured Planted Evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
2009 Ida, Grossly Unsupportable Classification
2010 Sebida, equivelant of a deceased PetsMart Gerbil
Evolution = Evil Illusion
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
Partial list of diabolical Frauds, presented by Satanists posing as scientists. The ficticious "Missing Link":
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Diabolical Manufactured Planted Evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
2009 Ida, Grossly Unsupportable Classification
2010 Sebida, equivelant of a deceased PetsMart Gerbil
Evolution = Evil Illusion
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious You've used this before. Have you got it on cut and paste?
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious List of creationist HOAXES still being used today ( as opposed you Wakes fake list)
Paluxy Footprints
Noahs Flood
finding of Noah's Ark
Finding of the place the cross stood
finding place of the ark of the convenant
Irreducable complexity.
Kahlam Cosmological argument
Turin Shroud
The Bible
Toudiyama 1 year ago
@Toudiyama
The Turin Shroud was scientificly proven to be legitimate. What compels you to publicly post your ignorance?
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious There you go again Wacky, spouting about something you know nothing about.
The shroud is now accepted by the majority of independant scientist and a lot of christian ones as well as a 14th Century fake. Science proved that.
Of course the church rejected the carbon dating evidence, because it didn't fit with their preconcieved ideas, but funnily enough, they have stopped the possibility of any more test.
What are they afraid of? could it be they know it's a fake. I think so.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious by whom was that done, the discovery institute maybe?
btw the difference between your list and mine is, only one of your list is a real hoax whereas only one on my list might not be a hoax
Toudiyama 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious
The Turin Shroud was scientificly proven to be legitimate
Well it was proven to be a legitimate shroud.
tokenbrit123 2 months ago
Youtube scientists
kaderoder 1 year ago
Partial list of diabolical Hoaxes and frauds, presented by Satanists posing as scientists. Evolution has never provided a legitimate "missing link".
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Diabolical Manufactured planted evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
2009 Ida, Grossly Unsupportable Classification
2010 Sebida, equivelant of a deceased PetsMart Gerbil
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious, you have 1 example of scientific hoaxes/frauds that made it through the scientific process.
Frauds:
Piltdown man- correct, except possibly the diabolical part. Discovered and corrected by scientists.
Media hype, not scientific process:
Ida, a good fossil find, but overhyped about importance. Nebraska man, mistake hyped by media.
Science
"Peking man", where you missed some finds, and Lucy, where later finds supported the result.
eh?
What are ocre man and sebida?
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Orce Man was nothing short of criminal. They had created an entire environment dipicting what the Orce Man would have looked like. Quite similar to Nebraska man, when he was represented as the missing link. After Orce Man had been hyped for over a year as the newest we finally have the real "missing link" it was determined to be a 3 mo old donkey bone. The Hoaxes, Fruad and pure unadulterated bullshit associated with Evolution is no longer humerous it's Satanic.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious, who created and hyped? If it's like Nebraska Man, that's not the scientists.
So on the hoaxes, fraud, and bullshit associated with Common Descent/Theory of Evolution and passing scientific review, so far you have 1 instance. That's not exactly a large quantity.
So are you saying that the news media is satanic?
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
100 years of a diabilical Hoax sustained by a series of diabolical frauds and having never legitimately met the standard of "irrefutable evidence" is not a simple mistake it constitutes a crime against humanity. There are honorable men and honorable scientists who do share the same fundamental commitment to the truth regardless of their devotion to an particular vocation. "To Thine Ownself Be True" - Shakespeare "The Truth Shall Set You Free" - Holy Bible .......
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious, Well, with the exception of Piltdown Man, none of the actual hoaxes you mention made it past the scientists, so the scientific method appears to be doing its job well. They did eventually get Piltdown Man as well.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Eighty percent of the Worlds News Media is owned & controlled by one man, Ruper Murdoch. Watch the ytube video labled, JFK Famous Speech. In that famous speech the President literally begs the News Media to help him expose a "Global Monolithic Conspiracy". Instead they did as they were ordered and helped cover up the assasination of JFK. Murdered by the very conspiracy he attempted to alert us to. Operation Northwoods, Operation Vigillant Warior, Vigillant Guardian, ect..
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious, that's the percentage of the world's population his news reaches, not the percentage he owns.
Operation Northwoods was canned, and all the claims of conspiracies in VW & VG I've seen were filled with garbage. If you have a site that isn't full of idiocy and drive by research, I might be interested in seeing it.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
For a non-exhaustive list, if they don't know things like
when we dropped to 14 alert aircraft
actual building falling time or speed
the rough order of magnitude price paid for buildings
the known threat the buildings were insured against
damage and fire hazards of building 7
the actual official story
etc...
then they are not competent enough for me to take them seriously. Even if they turned out to be right, they are incompetent.
If you have sites without that, post away.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Operation Northwoods was a CIA plan to disguise as Cubans and attack American military bases to garner full public support for a war against Cuba. JFK immediately fired his Jt Chief of Staff for even having proposed a plan that was treasonous. He should have immediately declared the CIA an organization of Terrorists and held them accountable for TREASON. As is he didn't and they assasinated him. The Secret Service was ordered to stand down so the driver could murder JFK.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious , LOL... he should have held the whole CIA responsible for someone else's plan? I think the JCS got off lightly for proposing a plan like that, but going off and imprisoning someone else won't hold up in court and won't help.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Read the names of all the other CIA plans which have been executed. One of those plans was to aid the Mousad in committing Terrorist Acts in Europe. JFK fired his Joint Chief for proposing a plan that would have destroyed Federal Property, constituted TREASON and would have resulted in a War against Cuba. They would have gotten blamed for starting a war they never started and the Satanic CIA would have escaped being held accountable for their Crimes agains humanity.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious, so are you saying you didn't intend to link punishing the CIA to Operation Northwood? Did "He should have immediately" mean immediately once he entered office instead of immediately once we was presented with Operation Northwoods?
So if you meant when JFK entered office, you wanted to imprison them without presenting any evidence.
If you meant at ON presentation, you wanted to punish them for someone else's crimes.
Either way, it won't hold up in court, and won't help.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
With that being said, yes, there are several past cases like the ones you bring up where individuals in the CIA and FBI who should have been prosecuted for their crimes, and in many cases along with their supervisor. Imprisoning the other ones with them would just make us a police state.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
sorry, "where there were individuals"
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
CIA, MK Ultra Program and many other of their disgusting filthy Satanic Programs violated the Constitutional rights of the very people for which they are public servants. The CIA covertly bringing Ex Nazis to area 51 after WW II is a sickening disregard for the millions of lives those men were responsible for. They continued with the same type of horific programs that took place under Hitler only this time the Nazi CIA played the role of Hitlers Nazis. Two of the ...
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Sadly, the honorable agents for both the CIA and FBI get painted with the brush of their corrupt leadership. Both organizations were established using highly questionable manuevers and those who were responsible had ties to Satanism and the interests of the World Bankers. Effectively, surrounded by corruption little most agents could do, since they are surrounded by corruption on all sides. Those who did report the corruption were eliminated. William Cooper, Chip Tatum
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
I share your compassion 4 the innocent men & women who were naive to the corruption that was installed decades before. The history of the Illumanati infiltration of American Government, was able to thrive because the Media was manipulated to participate. American Public were played like a fiddle to argue democrat/republican, because corruption acts like mental kryptonite. The CIA Covert actions such as Iran/Contra, Cocaine trafficing ect is Blatant attack against humanity.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
Actually, your last few comments surprise. In most cases surrounding 911, Evolution, Atheism and Satanism few who defended the Offical 911 story bothered to investigate their own position. You managed to find time to research and form your own opinion. For what it is worth, when someone sets out to attack and diminsih God, they rarely even consider the truth. I have no hidden agenda. My goal is to wake the oblivious to the fact that both Satan and God exist.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
waketheoblivious,I work on being open minded, since without being open minded one cannot learn the truth unless they start with a lucky guess.
I think that we also see a lot of people going along with what they see as an authority figure. As children we have to rely on what authority figures tell us, so perhaps it becomes habit.
But blindly following authority causes problems, because no human is an authority on everything, and they may not be reliable, or honest.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
Politicians for example... one need only look at the campaign compared to their actions after they are elected to see they are willing to lie to you, and since they focus on their next election, not what the country will be like when your child becomes an adult, they aren't too reliable either.
So on events like the WTC attack, there's no question that they might lie to me... the question is "are they lying to me now", and "does anyone else have a better grasp on what happened.
JustAnotherMutant 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
There are two video series that are quite comprehensive in what they present. Watch anything which William Cooper was involved with. He was never debunked and accurately predicted 911 four months in advance. Cooper was a former US Navy Intelligence Officer. Cooper was murdered by Fed & local authorities on trumped up tax charges Oct of 2001. Chip Tatum was a former CIA Hit man who told his story to and he was found dead washed up on a beach a few months later.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious It's wacky wakey. Still peddling your rubbish I see. Still dodging the questions with your old conpiracy theories.and superstitious garbage.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@HonestMan395
You prove yourself a dishonest man. Freedom of Speech and Conspiracy Theory are mutually exclusive terms. Meaning, one can NOT profess belief in Freedom of Speech and ever label the search for the Truth a Conspiracy without proving themselves a liar & a fraud. What question do you claim I am dodging and what old conspiracy theory are you eluding too? I hold an advanced degree in Economics which requires logical objective progression of thought versus your subjective opinion.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious I'm sorry, but a degree in economics does not impress me. I have worked all my life with "Graduates". I haven't been impressed by many of them.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@HonestMan395
You are the only one who impresses you and that stems from being an egotistical maniac and pathological liar. HonestMan describes something you have never been yet claim to be. You have proven yourself to be a liar and a fraud, spare us your opinion, since the opinion of a liar and a fraud is not something anyone except themselves care to hear.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious Are I see you are back on your old fallback tactic. Don't answer the question, just attack the questioner.
So typical of the mental "agility?" of the average creationists.
The certain sign of a lost argument.
Thankyou for admitting defeat.
I'm sure everyone watching this will realise your tactics.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@HonestMan395
Finally an element of honesty, you admitting you are sorry. Yes indeed you are one sorry lying fraud. At least you have finally come to grips with who and what you are, a lying pathetic fraud.
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious You have obviously mistaken my use of the word sorry.
In Britain, we also use that word purely as a measure of politeness, when we are going to say something that we know the person we are speaking is not going to like.
I'm sorry. Should have realised that someone like you would understand the concept of politeness.
Oops!! I've used it again. Sorry. :)
By the way, you still haven't answered the question. Sorry!!!
OOoo!!! done it again..
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 he wake is American and in his mind they invented the English language in the past I've seen him making remarks about someone using the Engish spelling instead of the american spelling
According to him, if you can use american english properly you can not be intelligent, he jus doesn't get the concept of World Wide Web
Toudiyama 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious The questions you have avoided answering was when i've asked you for proof that god exists and that jesus existed, other than in the bible. I seem to remember that I'm still waiting. for an answer.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
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@waketheoblivious The questions you have avoided answering was when i've asked you for proof that god exists and that jesus existed, other than in the bible. I seem to remember that I'm still waiting. for an answer.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious I will keep reprying to this with the remark that this post is hogwash and does not even make sense as well as it would show that your Search for the truth is a lie, seeing that you are calling evloutionary biology a Conspiracy
the word conspiracy theory or theorist labels those wh themselveso label the search for the truth a conspiracy
Toudiyama 1 year ago
@Toudiyama < ------------ Satanic Nazi Shill, paid to promote his Godforsaken lifestyle. Constantly makes derogatory remarks about God and the Holy Bible yet his homepage friend's list is swimming in Satanic symbolism. A pathetic shell of a human being who demonstrates his ignorance by offering his opinion on a book he obviously has never read, the Holy Bible. Instead of reading the word of God, he chose to conciously remain ignorant and then champions his "how to be a looser lifestyle".
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@waketheoblivious you are showing your own ignorance here the word yet implies a contradiction, me making derogatory remorks about the bible and its ficticious characters would not be in contradiction with a frienslist swimming in Satnic symbolism, if it was really swimming in Satanic Symbolism, which it isn't, but you don't care, seeing you continue this lie against anyone exposing you for the Fraud and liar you are
Toudiyama 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
JFK immediately fired his JT Chief of Staff for having proposed the plan. The CIA controlled by men involved with the very Global Monolithic Conspiracy JFK spoke of in his "Famous Speech" video, literally begged the Media to help him expose that Global Monolithic Conspiracy. Former Top Naval Intelligence Official William Cooper disclosed that the driver, William Greer shot the President after Secret Serviceman in charge directed security to stand down. The CIA.....
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
@JustAnotherMutant
The CIA was established by a president using executive orders. That President was also a member of the Satanic Illumanati. I am positive there are a great number of fine field agents within both the CIA and FBI that are unaware of what Sr Management is doing. How did the FBI/CIA sit back and allow Government officials to belong to Secret Societies when those types of clandestine memeberships broke a law specificlly making such involvement illegal. Bringing in ex-Nazis to..
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
i didn t mean to say that there is no proof of evolution
i was trying to come at the argument from both sides.
thanks for correcting me i should have written it better.
infinus5 1 year ago
the thing is that even if there was definitive proof that evolution occurs there would still be people saying it doesnt
same goes for if there was good evidence of god
some group wouldn t believe it
i take this stand because i went to a christian school where i got half an hour
of science and an hour of religion
this arguement will last for ever!
infinus5 1 year ago
@infinus5 i understand what you're trying to say but i disagree with you saying "even if there was definite proof that evolution occurs"
there is definite proof, and not just in the fossil record, but in every single field of science from genetics to psychology. its not a question of there being definite proof, its a question of the less educated and brainwashed not understanding it at all and preferring to take a position that does not require them to think "god did it"
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
My favourite story is how some American dicks think that god put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us :L, lol you got 49% of America there god, good one
alexPeasley95 1 year ago
Its no surprise that educated people dont believe the earth is 6,000 years old..
Nocturne187 1 year ago
to believe in evolution is no longer a decision, it is a fact. evolution is 95% likely to be true. Also you can see that americans with longer education( which mean that they probebly are smarter then the rest) are less likely to not believe in evolution. so i think that it is just a matter of knowledge. if you are high educated you will have more knowledge.
gulbirk 1 year ago
@gulbirk 95% it's not a fact. Don't tell people what to and not to believe in, in the end, it really isn't possable for us to exist anyway, yet we do.
lolzomgz1337 1 year ago
@lolzomgz1337 ok then answer me these two questions. Nr 1: why do so many male animals fight over who is going to mate. and why is it so that only the winner of the fight gets to mate. Nr 2: why do educated americans believe in evolution, and americans that arent educated ( retards, the state of texas, and so on) believe in it. and why is it almsot only in america that you dont believe in it.
gulbirk 1 year ago
@gulbirk Ugh, you missed the point entirly, does it hurt you when someone believes in god? No? Then stop telling people what they "Should" and "Should't" think is true, thats not your call. Also a creationist's answer would properbly be "God made it so" (Not that i believe that) Ultimatly, no theory of creation could ever be proved / dissproved, so just let people think what they want to think.
lolzomgz1337 1 year ago
@lolzomgz1337 well, i dont want to tell people what to think or not. but i just want to tell people not to think that evolution isnt real because life wont apear in a jar of peanut butter. im just want to point out that people shouldnt take this as evidence that evolution isnt real. im not saying that you shouldnt believe in creationsime forexample, but dont think evolution isnt real because of things like this.
gulbirk 1 year ago
@gulbirk Yeah this vid is in a word "Dumb"
lolzomgz1337 1 year ago
@lolzomgz1337 not just in a word, it is dumb, it is redicolouses, i dont think the man with the peanut butter even knows what evolution is, evolution isnt the theory of how life started, it is the theory of how it evolved. this is why im not religious, religion is holding back science, also all retards like the man in the video are. and im pretty sure that man is religious.
gulbirk 1 year ago
Remember this you Creationists, time is on OUR side, not yours
TheBrotherOfSisters 1 year ago 2
Does this graph mean that republican voters have a lower education and are less intelligent? What's new...
Darwin ftw
Guitarhero1800 1 year ago 2
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WrongFitment 1 year ago
i am really ashamed of being an american
mogghee 1 year ago
@mogghee No you should be ashamed at the dumb Americans not your self
TheBrotherOfSisters 1 year ago
I don't think this is somthing to laugh about realy.
It's actualy fucking scary. Believing God created us is about the same as believing in the bookieman and let's be honost, if a grown-up sais he does that what you think of him?
Londron 1 year ago
Firstly, I hang my head because I am a U.S. citizen. 2ndly I find hope in our sheer volume. 12% of the U.S. pop gives us roughly 36 million people who have a brain. Finally, and this has been said ad nauseum, the theory of evolution explains the diversity of life not the origin of life. Science hasn't quite cracked that nut but abiogenesis looks promising.
cheloso1 2 years ago
I'm truly concerned because creationist are getting stronger. Textbooks are being altered. High level politicians refute evolution. Uhhh... Bush, Palin and other christian leaders believe that our assault on the Mid East was god inspired! It's a Jihad! WTF?
cheloso1 2 years ago 4
it seems there are no schools in the USA ...so sad
journeyman66 2 years ago
America is going the way of Islam, the Greeks and the Romans once a leader in science, then destroyed by religion.
Experiment47 2 years ago
@Experiment47 Do as the people with brains did then: run to educated countries!
They fled to america/europe and (in case of the greeks) constantinopel, now I suggest you guys come give europe a push xD
Or maybe go to asia, they're REALLY doing well scientifically...
TakesTwoToTango 1 year ago
@TakesTwoToTango My wife is a Chinese Buddhist, who grew up in a Marxist idiology. I recently discovered she's a strict Darwinist. I asked her why. She replied, 'Because it's fucking obvious'. I'm from the UK. Here we have Darwin on the bank notes.
gamesbok 1 year ago 7
@gamesbok How is it obvious? Thats a bland answer.
xBBWCx 1 year ago
Also, by trying to prove that evolution is wrong, creationists also attack the whole fundamental base of physics, astronomy, geology, anthropology, palaentology, etc... Trying to prove that evolution is wrong means that the General Theory of Relativity must be wrong, because the speed of light isn't constant. All dating technics, developped by men of great inteligence, must also be wrong, simply because they believe it to be wrong. Belief has nothing to do with science.
Cybigun 2 years ago
If biologists are wrong about evolution, they might be wrong about medecin. If you ever get a serious illness, therefore, you should not go to the hospital, but to church, since prayer OBVIOUSLY works better than chemotherapy for fighting cancer. The most ironic part however is that most of the "debate" is held on the internet, another invention from scientists. The bible says nothing about the internet, does that make it non-existant?
Cybigun 2 years ago
this is worrying, very worrying. The whole "Teach the controversy" thing in america is a cham. There is no controversy. Scientists unequivocally agree that evolution happened, is happening, and will continue to happen. People who say that it's wrong because it says otherwise in the Bible are dissilusioned hypocrites. Fine, don't believe. But then don't use your i-pods, computers or cars because those were inventions created by "heathen" scientists.
Cybigun 2 years ago
Over 99% of biologists, the people most capable of making informed decisions on the matter, as well as 95% of all scientists, accept evolution as a *fact*, although the theory of how exactly it works (which is the infamous "theory of evolution") is, like all science theories, subject to revisions and refinement.
How ironic that at least 50% of the fundamentalists in our country think they know more about it because they've only read *one* book, and it wasn't even specifically about biology!
fkbryce 2 years ago
The thing about evolution that most people don't understand is that it is what is known as an accepted theory, which is only one step below scientific law. So it's proven to happen, it just isn't a scientific law.
bmw5234 2 years ago
The more educated (as they call it)seem to be the most vulnerable to the devil's lie of evolution.
Study shows!
vrghiks 2 years ago
lol religion is so stupid
MattGAngelOfDeath 2 years ago 2
what the graph doesn't show is the people of other religions and what they believe
violetdrakine 2 years ago
darwin is a made up person........
darkfur35 2 years ago
yes and that photo of Darwin was really santa claus.
DSD1v57BG32 2 years ago 14
it was a fake picture.......
darkfur35 2 years ago
How was it a fake pic?
DSD1v57BG32 2 years ago
darwin is a made up person?
so is tom cruise. not real.
moron.
squeaky92 2 years ago
squeak92 , you dont know what your are talking about. tom cruise is real ........and you call me childish names.......
darkfur35 2 years ago
no shit sherlock. of course he's fucking real. thats the whole point of sarcasm numbskull.
squeaky92 2 years ago 2
squeaky92 where is your brain? Coward......
darkfur35 2 years ago
Jesus was made up too. I know this because all of the pictures are fake. We don't even know what he looks like. How does an imaginary person have a great great grandson that appeared on T.V.?
123Atheist 2 years ago 12
odd..........doesnt make sense
darkfur35 2 years ago
What do you mean?
123Atheist 2 years ago
"(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Many adults in Canada believe the theory of evolution is correct, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies. 59 per cent of respondents think human beings evolved from less advanced life forms over millions of years. Conversely, 22 per cent of respondents believe God created human beings in their present form within the last 10,000 years, while 19 per cent are not sure."
Still too low for my taste. At least our country handily beats the United States though.
ISDP1337 2 years ago
Somewhat make me proud, but like you said, it's too low for my taste :P
vava54own 2 years ago
In the UK around 85-90% of people believe in evolution. The Church of england and the vatican believe in evolution. Darwin is buried in westminster abbey.
gafproductions 2 years ago 4
This makes me want to move to canada. At least the skiing's better up there.
MrFlopz 2 years ago
honestly. if you came to england and said you dont accept evolution. or pritty much any european contry. youd get laughd at. especily if you said that the world was a few thousand years old too. why is the stupidest nation incharge of the most nukes??? can a smart american answer.....il blindly hope that they actualy exist
smoke123455 2 years ago
The reason? Because we were the ones to make them first. And have refused to give them up.
Cyllid 2 years ago
Nuke is in my opinion, maybe the biggest abomination created. It's not really something to be proud of.
vava54own 2 years ago
I didn't say it was something to be proud of.
Cyllid 2 years ago
Considering the massive amount of evidence for abiogenesis and evolution, then no, Im not being presumptous.
canuckman87 2 years ago
You know it used to be that 100% of people thought the sun went around the earth. Or do you doubt the heliocentricity of the solar system too?
DrTimWhatley 2 years ago
I am no longer going to say that I "believe" in evolution. One does not "believe in" a scientific theory. I will probably say that I "accept" the theory. My small part to erode the idea that one must choose between belief in God and acceptance of the Theory of Evolution.
NuyBard 2 years ago
America is a backwards country
MusicHypno 2 years ago 6
Humans are filled with contradictions and the *world* tends to be backwards in multiple ways.
silentsoliloquy82 2 years ago
heres why god had sod all to do with it.....if god created man in his own image.....go stand naked in front of a mirror....(and i include myself in this so do flame me)....and tell ....what sort of a crappy day was god having when he created you
malarky321 2 years ago 3
LoL, I agree. That just proves that America really is mostly stupid people.
canuckman87 2 years ago 3
No, you are just making a presumptuous opinion.
silentsoliloquy82 2 years ago
"Sounds to me like 88% of americans believe in God! What do you have to say about that athiests??"
I think that proves that 88% of americans are just as dumb as the rest of the planet believes they are.
Sad, isn't it?
YoozYerBrayns 2 years ago 6
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So basically this says that only 12% of americans believe evolution. The rest think that God made things just the way they are or at least guided the process. Sounds to me like 88% of americans believe in God! What do you have to say about that athiests??
HeavenBound24 2 years ago
That a large amount of the public should probably do a little more research into the theory of evolution in order to fully understand that it does, in fact, occur?
TraskNari 2 years ago 7
I am an atheist. What does that say to me? It says that 88% of the American populace is delusional. Plain and simple.
gilmourw 2 years ago 26
@gilmourw God made me an atheist, and who are you to argue with his devine wisdom?
gamesbok 1 year ago 6
"Sounds to me like 88% of americans believe in God! What do you have to say about that athiests?"
100% of the population used to belive the earth is flat, what does that tell you tectonic belivers?
Gavlefilms 2 years ago 8
Well, put your stats together with these on the vids, and it tells you that most americans are really uneducated. What does it say about the 12%? That they must have quite a spine to stand agains such massive collective ignorance! Was that your point?
0no1one 2 years ago
"Sounds to me like 88% of americans believe in God! What do you have to say about that athiests?? " You can't even count - yeah that is right - 12% accepts Evolution theiry but 36% (God Guided) + 47% (God created) = 83 % ! So 5 % didn't have opinion. Are other 83 % just like you who think that - No child left behind is a good idea ? I am atheist and from Latvia and it is horrifieing to watch at such delusional people like you.
siikaiz 2 years ago 2
did you miss the last part where they combined the charts? It said the smarter one is the less likely they are to believe in biblical creation. so in other words, 91% of smart people believe in evolution. and 72% of dumb people believe the bible.
sleach060689 2 years ago
oh... my bad ! sorry for that =]
siikaiz 2 years ago
"Americans" are not dumb. Only the people of united states believe in creationism.. It doesn't happen in any other country of America.
UntakenNick 2 years ago
Accept it or not, when people say Americans, they are usually referring to US citizens, whether or not this is the literal definition.
psychosavant 2 years ago
Exactly.. "us citizens" (call them whatever you want) believe in creationism.. Don't assume that the rest of the continent has the same disability to tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
UntakenNick 2 years ago 3
I'm well aware of the status of religion in North America, and many other parts of the world. But obviously not all US citizens believe in creationism. In fact, it's being shown that less and less are all the time. Hopefully we can weed all these bad delusions before... well... soon.
psychosavant 2 years ago
Nothing new here!
Just take a 5 minute look at the bible!
You would have to be a dumbass to believe that shit!
ISLAM4THICKONES 3 years ago 5
Yessir, I am saddened by my fellow countrymen. Religion is a joke.
psychosavant 2 years ago 3
globetrekker2: "brainwashed minds of the stubborn who do not recognize that God made it all, the God rules it all, that God rules US all."
Lets talk about this brainwashing.
Where do you go every week since you were young and impressionable and told the same thing over and over again? To be taught who your master is and the bad things that will happen if you disobey and the good things if you obey? hmmm... still cant see? then you are too brainwashed beyond help.
ChemEBeaver 3 years ago 4
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watch?v=M96bkdohMZE
enjoy :)
0no1one 3 years ago
"if evolution was true, we would see monkeys changing into Barak and Michelle Oboma, fish crawling up on land out of the sea, and sprouting legs. But there are no transitions like that in the fossils. disproving evolution right there. "
Wow... that was totally deep...
SSAnime1 3 years ago
Deep but WRONG!
Transitional fossils have been found and approx 5 kinds of fish are currently in transition to walk and breath on land.
ISLAM4THICKONES 3 years ago 4
"Losers can't stand to lose. I always WIN."
By that statement, you're claiming to be the biggest loser of all time. If losers cannot stand to lose and you will argue until you claim victory, because you always win, you're unwittingly labeling yourself as the biggest loser of them all.
Argue until you win because you can't stand to lose.
PS. When someone stops talking to you because you're too thick to understand does not make you the winner of an arguement to anyone other than yourself.
relic1076 3 years ago
I am not stubborn, I just don't see any reason for there to be a god. It doesn't make me a fool; you do not accept everything people say without thinking critically about it, and I think critically about this question. You also might think critically about it but have come to a different conclusion. You truly believe we are going to hell so I can appreciate your comment. However, I'm not stupid, stubborn, or sick. I try to treat people exactly as I would want to be treated.
ravingdead 3 years ago
like i said, you will need an iq of around 100 to understand (and comprehend) the facts that i placed before you. so just screw off- what your doing isnt even an argument
and by the way, Fuck Jesus :)
CrossHeart79 3 years ago
It is time the Vatican canonize Darwin to Sainthood, to show contempt toward their wayward, retarded, inbred, american protestant cousins. Ignorance is one of the greatest sin. It should have been one of the 10 commandments, "Thou shall not be stupid"
psioniq 3 years ago
look, Christianity falls apart without the old testament, the old testament was taken from Hebrew texts. although comparing the Christian texts with the Hebrew texts shows many disagreements between both translations.
ps. i too took on Christian, venomfangx (an idiot, but non the less) i too refuted his ridiculous claims- stop acting like you are the only one that could put on a decent argument
sides' im not an atheist- im a non believer.
CrossHeart79 3 years ago
im not stubborn, your just an idiot.
the old testament was translated from their original Hebrew counter part, even so, the translations were inaccurate and in fact went against each other a lot of the time. for instance, see Daniel 9:25-26 (the piece many Christians use as "proof" that Jesus is god.) both writing go against each other.
while the new testament was written over 200 years after Jesus died, from people who new people who supposedly knew Jesus (its unreliable)
CrossHeart79 3 years ago
not only that but there are statements in the new testament that completely contradict with each other showing that the new testament was poorly written
but you will probably need an iq of around 3 digits to understand what i just said, which i highly doubt you have
CrossHeart79 3 years ago
your idiocy is astounding, please read a book
purpleletters 3 years ago
The idea that Darwin recanted on his deathbed is nothing but wishful thinking among those with your...cognitive tendancies, which happened to become a "fact" in the eyes of some, though no credible evidence has ever surfaced which supports it. Furthermore, Charles Darwin had no reason to convert on his deathbed, as he was an ordained Anglican minister who remained a christian until his last breath.
some1not2 3 years ago
Well Darwin was a Christian before he discovered evolution, and he probably still believed in God the rest of his life. By the way...judge not lest he be judged? Ring any bells?
hooladan 3 years ago 2
Well since Globetrekker likes to judge others, I judge him to a brainwashed idiotic retard.
mecher3k 3 years ago
so thats the kind of "god" you follow? "believe me or you will get tortured for all eternity in the depths or hell?"
haha you and your satanic(christian) bullshit
CrossHeart79 3 years ago
All of these polls are misleading. As Abraham Lincoln put it: "The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of society in the next." By these polls showing that more 'educated' people believe in evolution is simply by the fact that religion and creationism has been driven out of our schools. So, new generations opinions reflect what they are being taught in school now. It is not proof that one view is smarter than the other.
Juankar1os 3 years ago
Perhaps, but I would say that as you get more educated, you are more likely to believe in evidence rather than fairy tales, fact rather than superstition, truth rather than stories.
atlant80 3 years ago
interesting, because the more I learn about evolution the more I do not believe in it.
rougeclair 3 years ago
Then you obviously didn't learn enough. I can't see how you can NOT accept evolution when you possess a decent understanding of it. Natural Selection + Random Genetic Mutation = Small Changes over short periods of time, which accumulate into large changes over large periods of time. Simple.
atlant80 3 years ago
hmm.. just curious.. why do you think more educated ppl are more likely to accept evolution then less educated ppl?
coincidence?
wildreams 3 years ago
Of course not.
My theory: If they were not religious before and then are taught evolution, chances are they'll believe in it. A lot of people attend church mostly because of family and friends, and not a personal testimony. Later when they study year after year and are told directly and indirectly that what they believe is stupid they are likely to choose to believe what they are taught in school.
rougeclair 3 years ago
lol. okies... but, actually it can go both ways..
Lets assume a person's beliefs are solely based on what he is taught. If the school teaches: "religion is stupid" and in churches: "school is lying" then it is i feel the person can go both ways to believe something, IF he only believes what is told and not think for his own at all.
If we assume he do think for his own, and more educated ppl is more willing to think for his own and do his own research, and knows more stuffs. (cont.)
wildreams 3 years ago
Then we can safely assume that, maybe the theory of evolution has "slightly" more credibility than young earth creation theory?
Moreover, it is forbidden to discuss religion in public school and churches are free to preach what ever they want.
Just a note though: Most main stream christian denomination and mainstream religion embraces the theory of evolution.
wildreams 3 years ago
Yes, it does go both ways. I still think it's interesting to see that there are actually quite a few who go to church and have high education who still believe in the creation.
Most of the people I know who do not embrace evolution are religious but also very educated people, and if anything I would say that those who keep their faith after university studies at least they have spent a lot of time thinking things through, and I would not say they are dumber than anyone else.
cont.
rougeclair 3 years ago
Here in Norway religion is a subject in school. I think it should be taught, but I think it is impossible to find anyone who could actually teach it in a good way. It will always be biased one way or the other.
I don't care whether people believe in creationism or evolution, what I do care about is the parallel drawn between not believing in evolution and/or being religious and being dumb. There are a lot of intelligent religious people.
rougeclair 3 years ago
Yes, certainly, but i do not think religion and evolution cannot coexist. I believe there are many many intelligent men who are religious yet rational, eg George Coyne.
I do believe that there are still intelligent Young Earth Creationist around after the development of modern day evolutionary theory. Although i do not know any of them. It is safe to say they belong to the very minority.
There is no dispute within the scientific community though that evolution actually happened.
wildreams 3 years ago
There is no dispute within the main stream religious community(as well as main stream christian denominations) too that evolution took place.
U can search about Father "George Coyne" on this issue, truly fascinating religious AND scientific point of view.
wildreams 3 years ago
you just proved you don't actually understand the theory of evolution.
000snow000 3 years ago 7
americans are the kids who were in the special classes in school.
KillinDaWelfareMCs 3 years ago 2
I am from the UK and can't believe that Americans are so dumb. Evolution is so obvious that even an eleven year old British child would understand it. I guess yanks in high school still think that santa brings gifts on xmas day and their teeth are worth a dollar to the tooth fairy.
TelfordUK 3 years ago
I keep telling people. It's not "Americans", is "Southerners".
Jackasses in Kansas fucking their sisters, telling me that I'm retarded because "You think we came from two monkeys doing anal in the ocean!"
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