@USAFhelo11. Ummm, no its not false! That is in fact, an ACES11 egress system on that, and every F-16, as well as F-15, A-10, B-1, B-2 etc! I was an egress system specialist when I was in and maintained them! Google F-16 ejection seat! The pilot had imputed the wrong barometric pressure and therefore thought he had several hundred more feet in altitude prior to executing this maneuver! At the bottom he realized this and thankfully punched out! The seat has an environmental sensor that receives,
@ Firehawk2047, no the seat had to be command intiated by the Pilot/WSO. There was no auto ejection initiation at the time I worked on them. The process of chute deployment/mode of ejection and recovery was all automatic. The harness also had SEAWARS added later for sea water activated restraint system hardware for water landings. In case the aircrew member was unconcious or injured, his parachute risers were cut automatically and a floatation device would be automatically deployed.
@Firehawk2047 Damn right the F-35 Helmet is awesome. I mean it's too awesome really. For example if the pilot looks down on the floor, he wouldn't actually see the floor of the plane but instead what's beneath the aircraft ;D
@ElchinMendes I don`t thik the F35 JSF has this feature, instead, the AH-64D Longbow has a similar option for tracking targets with its 50 cal. weapon. However the helicopter helmet is not even close to the fighter helmet in terms of shere "awesomeness" if such a word sould exist.
It not a split s, it a reverse half cuban 8. Just saying. I don't know why the Air Force reported it as a split s in the first place unless they insist on thier own names. The pilot lost his flight position I heard and had a desk job at the Pentagon. Any pilot can have a bad day - he miss converted the required altitude for the manuver before he evene started flying the report said. One small mistake really and he was unlucky it had such huge consequences. Such is aviation.
@yak55x you are right. Cuban Eight is the maneuver a split s is performed after take off, and has the starting point in the air, whist a Cuban Eight has the starting point on the runway.
Actually its not a Martiin Baker ejection seat its a ACES II, Navy/Marine aircraft utilize the Martiin Baker systems. The current USAF inventory utilize the ACESII. Both are amazing, highly effiecient and lifesaving systems.
Yes, I agree, but you must consider the fact that the maneouver implied a low flight over the runway (<20m) , it was bound to be a early pull from the roll, but with the altimeter out of the eqation he missjudged the remaining space between the plane and runway.
Well the only reglementation that I know of is that pilots are now allowed to fly above crown since an accident in 1999. You can see the altitude at which the pilot ejected from another angle here:
Well the only reglementation that I know of is that pilots are now allowed to fly above crown since an accident in 1999. You can see the altitude at which the pilot ejected from another angle here: Well the only reglementation that I know of is that pilots are now allowed to fly above crown since an accident in 1999. You can see the altitude at which the pilot ejected from another angle if you type "thunderbirds" in google images and select the eject picture.
@Randomnick123, without an altimeter you can not perform this maneuver, the air density (which depends of surface temperature) can create an error of 10 meters. Consequently it is extremely dangerous to attempt this without instruments. However, you can safety do it "flying blind"
I`m not well informed here, but I think this happened because he was supposed to know how much to climb before he pulled the stick, or he should have powered down, (having) a high air velocity for that altitude). When he saw the ground at the apex of the turn he should have approximated how much he sould have pulled the stick, I didn`t find a source to answer to this question.
No, the pilot had the wrong barometic pressure entered in the altimeter, which made him think he was 800 feet higher then he accualy was, which made him miscalculate the required altitude to peform the split s manuever. He was canned because he should of checked that airport barometric pressure before takeing off. So it was accualy his fault he crashed.
@USAFhelo11. Ummm, no its not false! That is in fact, an ACES11 egress system on that, and every F-16, as well as F-15, A-10, B-1, B-2 etc! I was an egress system specialist when I was in and maintained them! Google F-16 ejection seat! The pilot had imputed the wrong barometric pressure and therefore thought he had several hundred more feet in altitude prior to executing this maneuver! At the bottom he realized this and thankfully punched out! The seat has an environmental sensor that receives,
kinch613 1 week ago
@kinch613 thank you for the info. Does the seat have a sensor for auto-ejecting at a certain attitude ?
Firehawk2047 1 week ago
@ Firehawk2047, no the seat had to be command intiated by the Pilot/WSO. There was no auto ejection initiation at the time I worked on them. The process of chute deployment/mode of ejection and recovery was all automatic. The harness also had SEAWARS added later for sea water activated restraint system hardware for water landings. In case the aircrew member was unconcious or injured, his parachute risers were cut automatically and a floatation device would be automatically deployed.
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@kinch613 thank you for your great response ;)
Firehawk2047 1 week ago
I always loved the old school helmets with the visor cover. Way cooler than the new ones.
S0N0FLIBERTY 1 year ago
@S0N0FLIBERTY I`m a fan of the new F-35 Helmet, it looks like it should, straight out of a SF movie. ;)
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
@Firehawk2047 Damn right the F-35 Helmet is awesome. I mean it's too awesome really. For example if the pilot looks down on the floor, he wouldn't actually see the floor of the plane but instead what's beneath the aircraft ;D
ElchinMendes 1 year ago
@ElchinMendes I don`t thik the F35 JSF has this feature, instead, the AH-64D Longbow has a similar option for tracking targets with its 50 cal. weapon. However the helicopter helmet is not even close to the fighter helmet in terms of shere "awesomeness" if such a word sould exist.
Firehawk2047 11 months ago
@Firehawk2047 That's a helicopter. I'm talking about helmets...
ElchinMendes 11 months ago
It not a split s, it a reverse half cuban 8. Just saying. I don't know why the Air Force reported it as a split s in the first place unless they insist on thier own names. The pilot lost his flight position I heard and had a desk job at the Pentagon. Any pilot can have a bad day - he miss converted the required altitude for the manuver before he evene started flying the report said. One small mistake really and he was unlucky it had such huge consequences. Such is aviation.
yak55x 1 year ago
@yak55x you are right. Cuban Eight is the maneuver a split s is performed after take off, and has the starting point in the air, whist a Cuban Eight has the starting point on the runway.
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
Actually its not a Martiin Baker ejection seat its a ACES II, Navy/Marine aircraft utilize the Martiin Baker systems. The current USAF inventory utilize the ACESII. Both are amazing, highly effiecient and lifesaving systems.
kinch613 1 year ago
@kinch613
false
USAFhelo11 2 weeks ago
You should know how your plane performs. That was clearly way too early pull from roll. You can see it without the altimeters.
Randomnick123 1 year ago
Yes, I agree, but you must consider the fact that the maneouver implied a low flight over the runway (<20m) , it was bound to be a early pull from the roll, but with the altimeter out of the eqation he missjudged the remaining space between the plane and runway.
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
@Firehawk2047
There must be somekind of safety altitude that its not allowed to go below that while going thru the show......
Randomnick123 1 year ago
Well the only reglementation that I know of is that pilots are now allowed to fly above crown since an accident in 1999. You can see the altitude at which the pilot ejected from another angle here:
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
Well the only reglementation that I know of is that pilots are now allowed to fly above crown since an accident in 1999. You can see the altitude at which the pilot ejected from another angle here: Well the only reglementation that I know of is that pilots are now allowed to fly above crown since an accident in 1999. You can see the altitude at which the pilot ejected from another angle if you type "thunderbirds" in google images and select the eject picture.
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
@Firehawk2047 You guys are correct. However his Altimeter was set 1000 ft below Mountain Homes. It was still set to Nellis AFB, NV Altitude.
sitehunter 1 year ago
@Randomnick123, without an altimeter you can not perform this maneuver, the air density (which depends of surface temperature) can create an error of 10 meters. Consequently it is extremely dangerous to attempt this without instruments. However, you can safety do it "flying blind"
Firehawk2047 1 week ago
he had the wrong altimeter setting which lets him know the distance he is from the ground
SAViNGLiVE5 1 year ago
@SAViNGLiVE5 that is corect, he did not compensate for the elevation the the ground at that location :)
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
If a malfunction caused it... why was he excluded from the Thunderbirds?
thannblanchard 2 years ago
I`m not well informed here, but I think this happened because he was supposed to know how much to climb before he pulled the stick, or he should have powered down, (having) a high air velocity for that altitude). When he saw the ground at the apex of the turn he should have approximated how much he sould have pulled the stick, I didn`t find a source to answer to this question.
Firehawk2047 2 years ago
i think he did the split s too low so he didnt have time to pull out
hellkid94 2 years ago
No, the pilot had the wrong barometic pressure entered in the altimeter, which made him think he was 800 feet higher then he accualy was, which made him miscalculate the required altitude to peform the split s manuever. He was canned because he should of checked that airport barometric pressure before takeing off. So it was accualy his fault he crashed.
RainbowManification 2 years ago
@RainbowManification I don't think he was canned. He is a Lt Col now.
sitehunter 1 year ago
That is corect :D
Firehawk2047 1 year ago
@sitehunter they reassigned him is what I meant. He was grounded for the rest of the show season before he was reassigned.
RainbowManification 1 year ago
that had to hurt like hell. he was doing 12Gs an bailed out. I've done 10Gs an it knocked me cold out. got my gold pin tho lol.
austinboy91 3 years ago
Indeed, the crash was caused by an altimeter malfunction, making an auto-eject procedure.
Evry pilot loses consciousness for a few seconds when he bails out.
Firehawk2047 3 years ago
40million dollars of taxpayers' money gone there...hehe
kanov 3 years ago
For that the pilot was excluded from the Thunderbirds.
Firehawk2047 3 years ago
And the fact it was his fault for costing the military 40 million dollars to buy a new one.
RainbowManification 2 years ago