The Beast of Revelation (12 of 25) The Battle of Armageddon?

[e1313ruth]

Babylon goes back to the tower of babel.. The Bible says "let us build a city.." and they built Babylon..

Jesus was crucified in sodom and egypt.. and today he is crucified in all of Islam..

[530HELP]

the gospel must first be preached to all the world

[JesterSeven]

Just as there was only one, Yeshua, who fit the prophecies of Messiah there is only one who will fit the prophecies of the AC. The idea that Rome is The Beast , or Nero, is wrong. Scripture clearly states that the AC is from Greater Assyria ...Isaiah 10:5-15, 13:1-22, 14:24-27, 30:27-33 & 31:4-9 The Assyrian, The King of Assyria, The King of Babylon (ancient Assyria & ancient Babylon) For an in depth study of the AC's attributes visit profoundprophecyDOTcom/theAnti­christDOThtml

[manchildministries]

Nero did not:

>war against and attempt to overcome the RETURNING Lamb & God and his faithful (Rev 17:14)

>fail said war or any war against Jesus and in turn was overcome by the King of Kings and his faithful (Rev 17:14)

>destroy the whore, that great city that ruled over all the kings of the earth (Rev 17:16-18)

The true AntiX of Revelation has to fulfill all the above and more.

These are not metaphors, "Doctor."

[manchildministries]

Nero did not:

>have the entire world worship him because of said miracle (Rev 13:15) (Did China, India, Britain, Africa worship Nero?)

>execute/behead all those on the face of the planet who did not take the 666 mark (Rev 13:15, 20:4)

>sit in the Temple of God, blaspheming God & heaven (Rev 13:6 // Matt 24:15, Mark 13:14)

>rule WITH 10 kings for 1 hours (a short space) (Rev 17:12)

[manchildministries]

Nero did not:

>make a 7 year covenant with Israel and break it mid-week (Dan 9:27)

>suffer a fatal head wound by a sword (Rev 13: 3,12,14) He killed himself

>recover from said wound (Rev 13:3,12,14)

>never had power over ALL nations (Rev 13:7)

>make an image required to buy or sale WORLD WIDE (Rev 13:16-17)

>give life to said image (Rev 13:15)

>place or imprint that image (666) on the right hand or forehead of anyone (Rev 13:16)

>have a false prophet who called fire down from heaven (Rev 13:13)

[manchildministries]

Jc4runner

Still waiting for your assistance . . . could you find me a picture of this historic mark of the beast Nero had placed on the forehead & right hand of ALL the peoples, nations, and tongues of the world which was required to buy and sell.

[jcr4runner]

See:

The Beast of Revelation (13 of 25) The Mark of the Beast?

and:

The Beast of Revelation (11 of 25) The Number of the Beast?

[manchildministries]

You can't be serious.

[3100340]

did you kow that the beast of revelation is representing europe? if you want to know more go to tomorrows world. its amazing.

god bless

[jcr4runner]

What is amazing is the great degree to which all the specific elements of the prophecy through Rev 20 were fulfilled in the first century.

[ferdnerkel]

Where is the second beast mentioned in rev 13;11 in 70 ad?

[manchildministries]

Of course, the 10 kings Jcr4runner named all ruled at the same time with Nero to fulfill Rev 17:12-14 where the 10 kings are said to rule TOGETHER (at the same time) with the antiX to war against Jesus, & be overcome by Jesus. NOT!

So, it wasnt fulfilled in 70 AD. The 10 kings listed by Jcr4runner were all dead before then. Nero died in 68 AD; and never persecuted anyone in Jerusalem. In addition, he never stepped foot in the temple to blaspheme God, as Jesus prophesied the AntX would.

[HaveUconsidered]

I've enjoyed Gentry's presentation and feel he brings up some good points. I consider myself a sort of oxymoron regarding eschaetology. I am a preterist and a dispensationalist.

I feel that 70 A.D. was a prelude (type) of the final battle that awaits in the future.

If Armag. is limited to 70ad, then the descriptions in Revelation just become poetic nonsense. Few of the details in ch. 16, much less 19 (when Christ comes down to fight the nations) even fit.

silly........

[EndTimeDelusion1]

So ho does the NWO agenda, and with Maitreya, the RFID chip, the groves, the wickedness still on the earth. fit into all this?

[talkyamotta]

I tend to agree with 1stResurection , I haven't gotten through this whole series yet, but basically what this man is saying is that the entire book of revelations happened in the first century, if that's the case , how do you explain the remainder of the book where it says there will be a new earth without any sea , not to mention how everything is still here on earth after Gods great judgment, the more I watch this , the more it doesn't make any sense, not being disrespectful , just analyzing.

[shant07]

its present.. its happening right now!

[manchildministries]

It also involves the 10 crowned horns making war with the lamb, and the lamb overcoming them. (Rev 17:14). When in history past did anyone make war with the lamb only to have the lamb destroy them? How about never. It has not yet happened.

But me thinks we are gearing up for it. The stages appear to be lining up for the prophetic events (the breaking of the 7 seals and the sounding of the 7 Trumps) to begin; the first to be the 4 horsemen.

[jcr4runner]

In Revelation 12:4, the dragon tried to devour the CHILD (Christ) and in 12:17 the remnant of the woman's offspring (the church).

In Rev 17:14, the Beast makes war with the Lamb, but it includes the persecution of the Church, which occurred under Nero.

[jcr4runner]

You are reading your interpretation to fit the text (eisegesis), rather than drawing an interpretation out of the text based on the plain meaning (exegesis).

You need to take the

"Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time."

One IS ... the other ... must continue a SHORT TIME."

The plain meaning points to a first century context.

[manchildministries]

Yet there is no historical fulfillment of Nero or his alleged 10 kings being overcome by the lamb . . . . also stated in Rev 17:14.

Nor did Nero ever set foot in Israel, much less the Jewish temple to blaspheme God (which multiple Old Test & New Test passages prophecy of the antichrist), and that Nero was dead before the attack on Israel in 70 AD.

Is it that you cannot see that, or do not want to see that?

Nero resolved none of the points of the prophetic profile listed in Rev.

Try again . . . .

[jcr4runner]

There is a famous Roman sculpture called the Arch of Titus, which you can find on the web. It depicts the Romans desecrating the Temple in 70 AD.

The Beast can be either Nero or the Roman Empire depending on the context. There are seven heads and ten crowns.

The Beast as the Roman Empire here -- the seven heads are the number of kings up until the time of the first year of the Roman invasion of Judea in 67 AD -- which coincides with Nero's death,

[manchildministries]

Im well aware of the arch. It is proof that temple was sacked by the Romans . . . NOT BY NERO. For Nero to be the antiX and persecute Israel for 3.5 years after Israel fell, then hed have to be alive for that 3.5 years. He was dead.

Nero did not institute a mark on the righthand or forehead, nor behead those who rejected his image.

He did not rule over ALL THE WORLD

He was not destroyed by the lamb

He did not set foot in the temple, nor blaspheme God from the temple

Are you blind?

[jcr4runner]

All this is in the video and in Gentry's book.

1. Vespasian is tenth in the line of kings.

2. The "Beast from the sea" generally refers to the whole line of Roman kings mentioned in Daniel and Revelation.

3. At the time John was writing Revelation, Nero was the sixth in the line of kings -- the "one who is."

4. Nero is a specific beast -- one of the seven heads. He commits suicide by stabbing himself in the head or neck.

[jcr4runner]

5. At the death of Nero, vicious civil strife broke out and there were four Emperors in the space of one year. No one thought Imperial Rome could survive. But Vespasian came and brought order. It appeared as if the Beast had risen from the dead.

[jcr4runner]

(Nero did not institute a mark on the righthand or forehead, nor behead those who rejected his image.)

A mark symbolizes slavery or ownership. Nero beheaded many Christians in the Roman Empire including the Apostle Paul.

(He did not rule over ALL THE WORLD)

Rome is depicted as the whole world several times in the NT (cf.: Colossians 1:23; Romans 1:8).

(He was not destroyed by the lamb)

The Empire was destroyed for a time when Nero committed suicide.

[jcr4runner]

(He did not set foot in the temple, nor blaspheme God from the temple)

Vespasian entered the city in the Spring of 67 AD. His son Titus entered the holy place desecrated the Temple. The Beast, Rome and the Roman Caesars continually blasphemed God. Caesar blasphemed by claiming to be God and by actually stealing the consecrated furniture from the Temple.

(Are you blind?)

No.

[jcr4runner]

The ten crowns are the number of kings up until the last year of the invasion when the Temple was destroyed.

The ten kings are:

Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Claudius, Caligula, Nero, Galba, Otho, Vitellius, Vespasian.

Vespasian is the king who desecrated the Temple. Nero began the invasion in 67 and Vespasian, after becoming Emperor in 68 AD, finished the job through his son Titus.

So this prophecy was absolutely fulfilled in 70 AD even in very small detail.

[jcr4runner]

The first half of the Tribulation (64 to 67 AD) was Nero's persecution of the Christians; the second half (67 to 70 AD) was the reign Nero and Vespasian when Jerusalem was destroyed. According to history, the Christians escaped to Pella.

The Christians (Rev 12:11) overcame Satan "by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death."

So the Lamb overcame the Beast by delivering the saints -- not through victory in violent warfare.

[1stResurrection]

Armegeddon includes all nations, not just the Roman empire. These nations are those who have been deceived by the false prophet, the dragon and the beast, spirits of devils working miracles. Those nations will be gathered together in one place so as to be destroyed in the Great Day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:13-14). It is not a judgment upon Jerusalem, it is a judgment upon the Christ rejecting nations. The Day of the Lord has not yet occured..

[manchildministries]

(Part 7) And the most recognized date of Johns penning Rev 12 is 96 AD, not 65-67 AD. Like I said, this is a prophetic, not a history lesson. The events (Trumps, Seals, Woes, Thunders, Armageddon, etc.) will all unfold rapidly (which will unfold rapidly Rev 1:1 in the Greek). These events are designed to usher in the 2nd coming of Christ. That did not happen in 70 AD under Nero.

[jcr4runner]

96 AD makes no sense. Irenaeus said that if John knew who the Beast (666) in his vision was, he didn't tell anyone, Then he claims that "it" or "he" was seen almost in our day -- even in the time of Domitian.

Does it make more sense to interpret that as meaning that "John" was seen almost in our day or "the vision" was seen?

No, John lived until the time of Domitian but saw the vision in 65-67 AD when he was imprisoned under Nero's persecution.

[manchildministries]

Try sticking to scripture, not what Irenaeus (whoever he was) said.

Address REV 17:14. It states the 10 horns will make war against the lamb, but instead will be defeated. That did not happen with Neros 10 kings or any time on or around 70 AD.

This conclusively proves said 10 kings are the 10 kings of an end-time future government (when Jesus returns). It doesn't get any simpler than that.

Or do you hold the ALLEGED word of Irenaeus above that of the scripture?

[jcr4runner]

Sometimes the Beast is used to represent the Roman Empire and sometimes the Beast is Nero.

It's similar to Daniel -- sometimes a Horn is a kingdom and sometimes it is a king.

The Beast is Nero, but in the place you mention it is the Roman Empire as a whole.

John gives ten kings as a time indicator. When Jerusalem is destroyed ten kings have already appeared.

Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula and Claudius fell before Nero (the 6th king). Then Galba, Otho, Vitellius, Vespasian. (10 kings)

[manchildministries]

The "10 king parameter" has occurred a number of times in the history of Rome. None of them had their "10 kings" gathering against Jesus or Jesus defeating them. That is for a future event.

But then, you conveniently avoided that point that I specifically spelled out, as well as failing to examine all the other points which categorically disqualify Nero.

Why not answer these points so there can be an intelligent dialogue.

[jcr4runner]

"Try sticking to scripture, not what Irenaeus (whoever he was) said."

Try sticking to scripture not what Darby Scofield said.

Whether you are aware of it or not, you've been indoctrinated by the prevailing dispensationalist view -- on that was invented out of thin air around 1830 by Darby. Prior to the Scofield reference Bible, which popularized dispensationalism, Christians did not know of this view.

[manchildministries]

In order to be indoctrinated by Darby or this despensationalist view, I would have to have studied under it.

I have not; and probably would pull it apart looking for discrepancies if I was confronted by such doctrine.

Read forensics I've put forth. Every arguement is accurate and legitimate. Everyone "jot and tittle" must be satisfied for scripture to be fulfilled..

The "Nero Thesis" fulfills nearly nothing, and you have not answered any of the points put before you (in parts 1-7) .

[Bobbel888]

Agree, there is something wrong with putting all into a close historical time frame, which cannot touch us. The enemy would prefers this.

[jcr4runner]

There is something wrong with interpreting the text to mean something other than what the author meant it to mean to his immediate audience, the seven churches in the first century.

[Bobbel888]

Yes, you are right! The new Jerusalem is God centered and whatever interpretation of the revelation of whoever will reach it or not. God bless you.

[manchildministries]

(Part 6) There are dozens of parameters that disqualify Nero as being the antiX/little horn of the book of REV. Only one is sufficient. I already listed quite a few.

Finally, there is/was an actual wonders in the heavens with Virgo standing before Drago, with twelve stars over her head. It occurs (approx.) every 36K years. It only occurred recently around 2005, not 70 AD; possibly suggesting that apocalyptic events may soon be upon us.

[manchildministries]

(Part 5) The Nero thesis does not account for the other 6 Trumps (Rev 12 = 7th trump) nor the 7 seals preceding the REV 12. Neither Nero nor any of his political figures were healed of a death wound (Rev 13:12). Nero did not sit in the temple & blaspheme God/tabernacle (Matt 24:15, Mrk 13:14, 2 Thess 2:3). Nero was not given power over ALL nations and peoples (Rev 13:7). Not ALL THAT DWELL ON THE EARTH worshiped Nero (Rev 13:8); No one in 70 AD made fire come down from heaven (Rev 13:13).

[manchildministries]

(Part 4) Under the Nero thesis: There can be no manchild identified. There was no great falling away of the 3rd of the stars/believers (= 2 Thess 2:3) under Nero. Satan was not cast out of heaven in 70 AD (with only a SHORT time left . . . woe to the inhabiters of the EARTH Rev 12:12). What about the literal mark of 666 placed on the right hand or forehead of WORLDS POPULATION (Rev 13:14-18)? That did not occur any time before, during, or after 70 AD.

[manchildministries]

(Part 3) Just on these 2 points alone the Nero thesis fails. And although Nero & his 10 kings may have been a type (& partial fulfillment) of the end-time antiX/little horn world government system, a balanced & thorough examination of other apocalyptic events included in and surrounding REV 12 & 13 further eliminates them as candidates to be the players these passages attempt to reveal. Here are more discrepancies many fail to consider:

[manchildministries]

(Part 2) If the birth of the manchild in REV 12 is the destruction of Israel in 70 AD, then Nero & his 10 kings are disqualified as being the evil characters the passage revealing. Nero died in 68 AD, two years before Israels demise. Nero fulfilled none of the parameters expressed in REV 12-13, or any other passage.

2nd, REV 17:14 clearly states the 10 horns will make war against the lamb, but instead will be defeated. That did not happen with Neros 10 kings or any time on or around 70 AD.

[manchildministries]

jcr4runner,

Please allow me a multiple posting response.

(Part 1) The Nero = little horn/antiX thesis (I will call the Nero thesis) may appear complete, however it introduces multiple & significant discrepancies its proponents often overlook.

1st, REV12 &13 emphatically discloses that the antiX of REV will orchestrate, administer, and complete the 3.5 year persecution & destruction of the woman of REV 12:1. He will then activate a GLOBAL 666 mark-economic system, killing all that oppose.

[whitemanisthedevil]

The Battle of Armageddon,is WWIII.

[Saiaton]

Har Megiddo was a frontier fort of the Egyptian Empire overrun by Hittites and recovered, subsequently Israel's northern outpost. It is still a strategic point. Invaders had to pass it (and still must), so it is symbolically any great war. Adds weight incidentally, that I believe 'Exodus' was less 'Hebrews' leaving Egypt than Egypt retreating during Akhnaton's rule from 'Palestine' and Moses leading some Atonists to territory Egypt had lost (but reconquered). His name was Atonmose like Tuthmose.

[manchildministries]

It does not line up as I demonstrated. Examine Rev 17. It identifies the 10 horns as 10 leaders that rule with the antiX for one hour during the 7th head; and identifies Johns timeline as the 6th head (Rome). Johns vision was 96 AD, 26 years after Israel fell. John gave a prophetic, not a history lesson. The7 heads are 7 world empires against the nation/children of Israel. There was no Israel after 70 AD. Thus, the 7th head could not exist until after 1948 when Israel was re-established.

[jcr4runner]

John's vision was sometime between 64 to 67 AD, when Nero started his persecution. There are actually ten kings up until the time of the destruction of Jerusalem. John's seven heads give the Christians the time of their deliverance. John's ten crowns (or horns) give teh timing of Jerusalem's destruction. It lines up with Daniel's ten horns in the parallel passage. Nero is the little horn in the middle of them -- (i.e., the sixth king).

[jcr4runner]

Ten horns of Daniel 7:7 lines up with the ten kings also mentioned in Revelation 17:12.

These ten kings are the ten Emperors of the Roman Empire to 70 AD. The Roman Emperors were greater than all the other world rulers before them.

There are ten Emperors until the time of the destruction of Jerusalem: Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Gaius, Claudius, Nero, Galba, Otho, Vitellius, Vespasian. The reign of these kings parallel the period of the ministry Jesus and the Apostles.

[vbirdieb]

Revelation 10: 5-11

Also Rev. 10: 3-4 the seven thunders uttered something but John was told to seal them and utter them not. Why do you think that is???

[juniusrachus]

Battle of Armageddon is the WAR between JESUS CHRIST versus SATAN...!

[gareof]

The KEY to understanding the book of Revelation is in chapter 1:19 ""Write the things which you have seen ( Chapter One & John's vision of Christ) and the things which are, (The church age chapter 2 & 3 - John was a part of the church) and the things which shall be hereafter" (chapters 4 through 22)

[manchildministries]

This man is confused. The battle of Rev 16:12 occurs at Megiddo, which is 50 miles north of Jerusalem. Rome destroyed Israel at Jerusalem. Thus, Rev 16:12 is not talking about 70 AD. In addition, in 70 AD, "all the kings of the east" did not come up against Israel, nor did Rome dry up the Euphrates river. And I doubt Israel had an army to battle Rome in 70 AD being that they were stripped of any army long before Rome dominated the Middle East. The parameters of RFev 16:12 don't fit 70 AD.

[EndTimeDelusion1]

i can only make out one book title in the background, and it says in capital letters "MADNESS".  A sign? lol

[8Thirst]

whoa according to this guy we dodged a huge bullet... I hope hes gonna get into the 4 horses of the apocalypse.. or 1/3 of humanity dying. Stuff like that

[jcr4runner]

1/3 of the inhabitants of the LAND (GE) of Israel died in the Jewish War.

GE = land or earth

COSMOS = world

[px4422Wellington]

Ok, when they talk in revelations about the end, There isnt a battle mentioned, all it says is that the camp of the Lord is surrounded by the armis of Saten, and then fire comes down from heaven and consumes them. There is no battle, its already won! God already won it!

[Tomahax08]

please everyone u have to join god before the 6th seal ( we are in the 5th currently ) we only have so much years before god will rule the earth he is not coming back as a lamb he is coming as king of kings

Do not fight god when he comes to earth the nations will try to make it seem its an alien invasion to make us fight him and they will kill his followers but dont worry u will be ressurected after all the plagues are gone i wish u all luck in the end times

[turbografx]

this guy is DEAD WRONG.

[strategicatch]

We sould have more information on the peace treaty antichrist orchestrates between the jews and palestinians I hope this guy is wrong, i'm behind on my car payments and am hoping the rapture comes quick!

[rockon1384]

so where were all the plagues that were supposed to happen he left out the giant locusts one third of the water turning to blood one third of the land being barren ect ect this guy is taking small pieces that work for him and hoping people dont know better

[vbirdieb]

Alot of what he says makes sense historically, but I have to agree with you, on everything else he leaves out. How do those things fit within his interpetations.? That's why I think Rev. is still relevant (Rev. 10:11).

[ncbookz]

he is lying

[vampirehunter33]

I agree with this man on one point . revelation is a book now of past history . there is no future Antichrist or a future mark or a rebuilt temple . this was all made up by John Nelson Darby he started all of that in the 1800s and then all the other churches started teaching his beliefs

[Sanctyfied]

Yep, he totally lost it here. lol Trying to play like that most fierce war that mankind has ever seen has already happened? This guy is way off. There has been much worse way after all this. Plus none of them describe even close to what the Bible says about it. He needs to read it straight through and go through the rest of the prophets as well.

[crystal357]

This guy is a misinformant, dont believe what he says, the battle has not occurred yet, it is not a horrible day but a great day when man frees himslef from the bonds that the tyrants of this world put him in, a great battle for the good people of this world to never be forgotten

[Lift4Life78]

for all that say this guy has it wrong, Christ comes on his enemies on the generation that CRUCIFIED HIM. Not a generation 2000 years later that didn't physical crucifie him. Christ told them clearly vengence was coming on them threw parables and time statements. Why do you think the disciples ask what are the signs of thy coming when they hear the temple would be destroyed, I mean come on, what more do you need. Like Christ is going to beat down a generation years later LOL 4 1st century kills

[Lift4Life78]

Revelation is absolutely 1st century fulfillment. Christ Second Coming has to be or Christ lied, disciples lied, and Paul lied, cause they all preached the coming was near. 42 months would have to be the jewish revolt around 66-70 or spring 67-70 and Immediately after tribulation 70 according to Christ is all that is needed to know it was fulfilled.

[carbonunit003]

Another problem is that his time interpretation limits God's time frame to human. you do NOT have to necessarily look at setting to properly interpret prophesy.

[jcr4runner]

But the book of Revelation was addressed to Churches in the first century.

[carbonunit003]

True, but this does not mean it cannot be applied now. The same spirits of heresy plaguing the Asian churches are hard at work today.

[carbonunit003]

Additionally, this is akin to saying that because Paul's letters were addressed to individuals, they are not relevant to the modern church.

[carbonunit003]

Trying to force Revelation into events of the early 00- 100s is dangerous...It's like saying Daniel lived in Alexander's time so prophesied about his conquest in tandem with the world events of that time...which limits the power of God's prophets. Bad and dangerous to do. Beware the subtlety of false teachers, read it for yourself. God gives you the ability to understand if you need to, otherwise it is our duty to have faith that his plan will be completed on his schedule, not ours.

[carbonunit003]

I have looked at many of these videos and while there may be parallels between early AD events and the end, Revelation clearly describes events that have not occurred..ie the Mark of the Beast, 200 million man army trampling across Asia, mass (billions) death, an earthquake that shakes the whole earth, etc. I look with suspicion on any teacher that seeks to slow or confuse the preparation of the church for its final test before the Savior returns.

[jcr4runner]

This is a common objection, but in scripture the term "thousand thousands" often means a huge number, a figurative number, not a literal one. There can never be a literal army of 200,000 million.

[carbonunit003]

First, your assertion that there "never can be a literal army of 200 million" is flawed according to formal logic. Second, you are speaking from your perspective and limiting an almighty God to your interpretation. Third, an army of two hundred million could EASILY be fielded by China or India or both, even after 2/3 population decimation. Given the military buildup going on quietly in China, I would be VERY wary of discounting its military capabilities and willingness to use it.

[jcr4runner]

Could an army of 200 million actually fit inside of the area surrounding Jerusalem?

[carbonunit003]

Yes, given 3 square yard of space for each man (this is of course not exactly how it would occur, but there is a margin of error both ways) a 200 million person army could fit into an area of 200 miles, that is 20 miles by 20 miles. The entire population of the earth (6 billion) could fit on the continent of Australia and have a quarter acre apiece. People apparently are blinded by the lie of overpopulation. The earth is huge and we are small.

[carbonunit003]

Additionally, there is no reference to an army of 200 million explicitly attacking Jerusalem in the Bible. There is reference to a final attack on Jerusalem at the end of the millenial kingdom, in which all the remaining wicked men are destroyed.

[OwnedLmfao]

mmm i believe so? if jesus says it will happen it wil happen.. no matter how impossible it seems it will happen.

[popopopoooooooooyteh]

it is near in Gods time not our time

[10leggo]

Can anyone remember reading of the time when an army of two hundred million came from the east, and killed a third of the worlds population? (Rev:9:16) surly the Romans of the first century would have noticed this threat to their power

[christophercredit]

To say that the battle of Armageddon has occurred already is roundly absurd.

If that were true then all evil would have been banished from the face of the earth, and 'the renewal of all things' would have come to be.

Did this...very nice, but confused man ever read the Scriptures?

[caucazhin]

Hes jerking your chain men blasphemed God for the hail not the Romans & it came from heaven not from catapults

Job 38 Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or have you seen the storehouses of the hail which I have reserved for the time of distress for the day of war and battle

Rev 16:20 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven every stone about the weight of a talent and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail for the plague thereof was exceeding great

[Shekinah2013]

you better learn a little bit abou tNWO first, then you sure undersntand who is who...

[sw24will]

oh yeah i forgot about that. God wants all his elect to come to repentence when we preach the gospel and make disicples of all the nations.

[sw24will]

this guy is correct the only future event that we are waiting for is the judgement of christ to this universe

[jcr4runner]

"Go and make disciples of all nations ..." this is needed prior to the return of Christ.

[tdglks]

what this guy is saying is very misleading to persons who don't read the bible. Armagedon is in the future. Looks like he only selects phrases to support his view. If he truly believes that then what do we live for? DUDE get it right

[fardawg]

tdglks

"If he truly believes that then what do we live for?"

It is obvious by that statement that you haven't actually listened to a word he is saying. Looks like you "select phrases" to listen to. "DUDE get it right"

[worddroplikedew]

REV. 16:18: And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19: And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20: And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

[worddroplikedew]

there's nothing recorded in history that gog and magog's army were present during the jewish wars of 70a.d.! when titus and vaspasian entered into jerusalem!

[worddroplikedew]

REV 20: 8: And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9: And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

[worddroplikedew]

Jerusalem was never spritually called sodom and Egypt! The battle of armageddon is a future prophecy!

[fourseas1]

Why would god give john prophecy of something that was happening in his lifetime if he could have written it down as it was happening.Think about it these prophecys are for the future

[fourseas1]

Duet 28:64-67 moses predicted what he is talking about and it is not the battle of armageddon

[fourseas1]

Ezeikel 38;8 read it this guy is wrong the army at the battle had a billion soldiers

[fourseas1]

Blood filled up the valley and how many men were there 1 billion.This is his opinion not scripture he is just twisting gods word>Gods word will be preached to the hole world and reach all people if this guy thinks the beast has already been here he needs to get out of the office and into the rel world it is evil and getting worse and satan is behind it waiting to bring on the antichrist

[nymphrenic]

What is he talking about? The city where Jesus was crucified is not the city it is referring to, it is likening it to that city. Does he only read every other line in Revelation or what?

[jcr4runner]

How then do you interpret Revelation 1:1,2?

What does it mean?

I don't mean to be redundant, but it is necessary to interpret Armageddon in a way that fits the context of Revelation and is relevant to its intended audience.

[fourseas1]

Why does it have to be relevant to then and not now he could be wrong

[MikeGram101]

the bar kochba revolt? boy look at it from a jewish websites way...they have festivals associated with the loss of the temple..yes god did destroy the temple..this guy is a historical/christian scholor..great job!

[duio]

wow ive only seen just a few chapters of this video and i already can see this guy has got it all wrong in interpreting revelations and i mean ALL.

[Fall4Truth]

Your right, this guy has no idea what revelations is saying. The final battle is yet to come...