Does God Not Exist? That's the debate, so why believers can never give evidence for god once and for all? because there's no evidence for god period,end of story!!
if u dont hv enough evidence suspend ur belief plsss , talk all u can , theres no evidence to prove god exist and he created universe , dont quote science to prove religion is correct ,
5:15 Priceless face of someone listening to him after speaker says "I will offer Exhibit A for my position that there is no evidence for a God, and that is... this very debate" hahah
The ignorance and smugness of the two theist speakers is incredibly frustrating. I guess I'm used to watching debates with better educated opponents or opponents who are better at presenting arguments instead of just pandering to an audience who's largely on their side. I love to watch Carrier debate but it's hard to watch the other side. It's frankly embarrassing.
Fair enough. I was being blunt. But the real point is that his arguments were unpersuasive. For example, it won't do to say that one believes in God because, upon looking at oneself in the mirror, one can infer design. Has Rajabali even studied evolution? Does he know that the evidence for it is excellent? All of the vestigial organs and anatomical flaws in the human body are staring us right in the face. The old watchmaker argument has long been discredited.
its not insecurity about the existence of God when one come to attend these sessions, rather it is the strengthening of faith that emerge from..its anonymous to love.no body can claim he loves 100%..its more logical to say that the love grows day by day..peace to all atheists who want to seek truth
all that logic and reason and science explained and Rajabali asks "what nonsense is that".....he doesn't get it. Just falls back to the design argument anyway.
57:18 Such a bad argument. Because 1 in 5 women would die in natural childbirth, because of large head size, intelligence would be selected against. That assumes that mother's childbirth death rate is the ONLY factor in determining success of more intelligent offspring.
@mjt532 It would be like saying that humans should be getting smaller and smaller, not larger...after all, a smaller infant would stand a better chance of not killing his mother in childbirth.
For top philosophy of religion & sceptical analysis of Bible & religion try Robert M Price, John W. Loftus, Dan Barker, Victor J. Stenger. E.A.Wallis Budge translation of, 'The Papyrus of Ani' (1500BCE comp O.T.800-300BCE ish), Donald A. Mackenzie,' Egyptian myth and legend', James G Frazer, 'The Golden Bough', Thomas Paine, Joseph Wheless, Robert Ingersoll, C.Dennis Mckinsey, Bart Ehrman, Gary Greenberg, Richard Carrier, Valerie Tarico, Ken Humphreys, archaeologist Israel Finkelstein
@valgez1 im an athiest our points evolve as our understanding of sciences grow while religions are always stuck in the past therefore they always have the same points
@thesketchydude118 I see what you mean, but is it necessary to seek the answer in the religion? Religion, after all, is a political and economic institution, capitalizing on people's beliefs. However, there is one thing I'd like to take from The Bible - "God created man as of its own kind" - or smth like that, meaning that a man has an unlimited potential. I think that belief and science can be reconciled. We have some knowledge on the material world, but No knowledge on non-material, u agree ?
@valgez1 What do you classify as non-material? Because galaxies were once "non-material". The stars in the sky were once Gods rather than objects of the "material" world. We only lack knowledge of the complete material world. Everything in this known world is material. What you classify as "non-material" is just material that is not yet understood. Maybe you mean things such as our thoughts. Well, that's simply the product of our material brains.
Dan Barkers statements are clearly the result of careful and sincere reasoning. His world view has shifted from faith to reality. What an achievement.
that's good since he's sorrounded by the eyes of delusion. The muslim is worse religion in my opinion. Womens dont have freedom, head scarves, cant drive? I hate it when muslim said that their women have freedom, although obviosly they dont.
@ikaaful Oh I know religion you guys are all the same, you believe on things unseen, and you ignore evidence. To see by faith is to shut the eyes of reason you dumbass islam.
A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
Umm....in 49:46 how can he stand there and say DNA is perfect....if we are perfect there would be no getting sick and no cancer. I am someone who is impacted with not having a perfect body. I suffer from an auto-immune disease it started when I was 13 and I had to take Methotrexate (Chemo) if there is a god he is one fucked up asshole to do this to me.
Why does that second guy use the Isaac newton's gravity discovery, to be an explaination for the perfect order of the planets? It's as if he's saying that God, was so called believed, to have done it with his own hands? In whatever sense that would be? Did he ever think that maybe God created gravity and all these scientific orders and laws, as a result of his creation? Just because you finally scientifically can explain a phenomenon, doesn't mean it doesn't have a Creator.
Organized religion used to deny science entirely in place of creationist stories. Now that scientific discoveries are more and more irrefutable, religion was forced (in the face of destruction) to take a Deist approach and say God created the universal laws which everything but Him must follow. This is at least progress, much the say way that going from polytheism to monotheism is a step in the right direction. The ultimate goal, obviously, is REASON. We'll get there eventually.
"The whole is greater than the parts, disprove it", this one is easy, what would be the whole without the parts?Well it can't be anything because it's existence is based on the parts, so even if the whole has some improved complexity and utility because it's made of simpler parts it's totaly dependent on them, while the parts can exist without the whole, like a broken glass, or like atoms, they can exist without me existing, but i can't exist without atoms existing etc
the last guy doesn't realize that the Atheist he talks about simply had the same response as Newton when his theory raised new questions "oh, then God must have made it". Response which at least in Newton's case has been proven wrong in this very video.
Michael Corey...what a Schmuck! Look at the way he smirks and nods along to Hassanain (what I expect an terrorist to be like). Is Michael a christian or muslim wanna be??
@angularkid if ad hominems, assertions, assumptions, arguments from ignorance, etc. carry more weight on them than logical questions, critical thinking, valid arguments, etc. then, yes, you are correct.
How can Corey claim there's no imperfection in the universe? After hearing that, I'm sorry but I just can't take anything else he has to say seriously.
When viewing the audience I get the feeling that he's barking up the wrong three. These people have been indoctrinated from birth, as are their parents before them and so on and so forth. So in essence they will feel that you are "attacking" their whole identity, their whole being and the being of everyone that they love. Hence their reaction of anger and disbelief (fun word to use in this context). This would also explain the reason that they need others to belief the same thing.
@InnerMittenSignal If this quote were to be true, which I will take your word for, I will say this. Man has always been afraid of death as this is very uncertain, no one knows what's beyond death. And you don't want to leave your loved ones. Also, there have been many people for many years that have believed in a god that you should believe in, in order to get to a good place after death. Therefore, I think it's only natural that you should be scared when facing death and try to get mercy.
Not much of a debate. Angry theists trying in vain to tear apart the reasoned arguments of the atheists with word play and obfuscation. They should take a high school debate class to bolster their skills.
@chriskraska They should just use common sense and agree to the fact that we just aren't sure and should therefore not define the world by a seemingly ridiculous assumption.
@HardheadzNL that is exactly what Faith is though...believing a Good Guy is looking after us, even though our physical senses & brain reasonings have not proved it to us. the Scriptures say you can't even please God the smallest bit without it. & His nature is to give you your free will, whether you wish to please Him or not. so He remains elusive...on purpose. no one IS forced to be in God's Home with Him for Eternity. He wishes His children to choose Him!...as you'd wish your kids to do!
@InnerMittenSignal This is what you think, just beliefs, in my view positive and good beliefs. As these wouldn't divide and start wars. And I too belief that if there would be a god, he'd be a good guy, and therefore not eternally punish me for not believing in something that I can't be sure of. Religion is a highly personal thing, which should be kept privately, as to make sure everyone can live as they please and be in peace. And I think it's especially wrong to teach children to belief.
@InnerMittenSignal I can't clearly state my beliefs, therefore they might seem harsh and short sighted, but 500 characters isn't a lot.
So feel free to send me a message if you feel the need to further share our beliefs. You seem like a very reasonable person who is open to my beliefs, as I therefore are to yours.
Would you care to explain what you mean by "fog of war"?
And the forced I meant is applied by the various religious groups.
@HardheadzNL i know, 500 words ain't much! a 'fog of war' hides the battleground when u play 'warcraft' so that u can only see near yourself to fight unseen foes. i see actions as motivated by spirits, & thoughts also, as from radio stations your mind can hear. the One Holy Spirit of the Loving Creator can easily defeat the puny rebel being who opposes Him...& all his minions, since in Scripture satan is referred to as "lord of the flies"! but He wants to win humans with love not by force! :)
@chriskraska mine's loading so slow, i never get past that 1st speaker dude! lol! but i do know it's possible to go to Heaven without knowing what "obfuscation" means, or even going to high school, much less attending a debating class! i also know anger spirits won't be allowed to follow anybuddy there, no matter how much they bamboozled us on earth! Christians, save your anger for the Devil & his minions, not your fellow man! atheists, we forgive you...befuddled in your "fog of war"!
"This most beautiful system of sun, planets & comets could only proceed from the counsel & dominion of an intelligent Being. This Being governs all things not as the soul of the world but as Lord over all & on account of his dominion he is wont to be called Lord God or Universal Ruler. The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect. Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession & idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind it never had many professors."
Its sad that you are so close minded that you accept the existence of an invisible being. (I am just assuming you are a Christian). Get out of your house, take a trip around the country/world. Study other religions. See how they contradict within each other. First off. Think about how old the bible is. Then, realize that the chances of words being lost in translation by religous fanatics is extremely high. Move on from there....
@itscalledfutbol16 ever see "mork & mindy"? mork would tell orson about "points of view", ie"relaxed"vs"lazy" etc? what you see as 'closed minded' vs 'comforted by faith'. i'm happy to take comfort, so why would you say it's "sad?" the things you recommend can lead to a meeting with the Designer of the World! religions are seeking such an answer! you're not? you're just happy to drift & never know for sure if a loving being created you? but how exciting to think He would communicate to us!
@itscalledfutbol16 but did you not see the quotes around my post? i was quoting sir isaac newton, for the benefit of those on here (& speaking in the vid) who don't seem to realize what a dedicated & prophetic believer newton was! just as charles darwin called a revival meeting to his own sick bed as he lay dying, but his anti-Christian relatives suppressed it & lied to the media of the day!
The universe is a mystery. Since we have not fully discovered its origin, theists still cling to their religion for dear life...claiming that their religion is right. I hope you were not offended in any way by my last comment. Feel free to reply back. But i will not reply to your response. I have expressed my views, and you will do the same to me. No need to get into a wasteful debate :)
@itscalledfutbol16 you're right, arguing & debating are not the way to win someone's heart. that's why God doesn't try to win us that way, but by coming down & taking the punishment we all eventually deserve. it's our crappy things we do that convince our own selves that we're not worthy of His Presence. so we avoid Him in shame, even after our bodies die & we are but still-sentient shades! but He has purchased our pardon! :)
@InnerMittenSignal Hahaha. God is forced upon those that choose to belief as they wish, by those that belief in god. Is that how you think god wants to win us?
@HardheadzNL i don't see anything hahaha about that idea. if it's being forced, it's not from Him, even if it's describing What He Did...even a bit of What He's Like! "spirit" is a noun that describes the invisible force behind visible action, including speech. a spirit can be good or fallen. the most wicked spirit of all is like a politician who prints obnoxious pamphlets, then signs his opponent's name. God doesn't force stuff. truly, if that's what you're perceiving, it's not Him! (:D
exact isaac newton quote: "Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done.[8]"
@videoarguingdude, ..."Newton saw a monotheistic God as the masterful creator whose existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation. Although born into an Anglican family, by his thirties Newton held a Christian faith that, had it been made public, would not have been considered orthodox by mainstream Christianity" (but at least he was seeking to God for Truth & Light! :)
:) but Jesus is not a religion, He's a person you can relate to who loves both His People & His precious creation! He's not angry at you, He came to save you! & there are no bombs hidden on him...in fact...He will put your ear back on if someone else (it was peter actually) shears it off of you in political anger!
...and he thinks Faith is a game? i tremble for him! when he first mentioned saturn it came to mind how much that sounds like satan, & i always thought jupiter was a consonant switch for lucifer. there's an unseen spirit world that makes its presence felt, however we try to elude it. i think the greek 'zeus' sounds a little like 'yay zoo'z...& they thought he was the top god...interesting...& that romans who crucified him, replaced him with jupiter...lucifer if u fudge the consonants.
yikes, the 1st guy is apostate! as soon as he opened his mouth he seemed totally goofy & did not come across as Happy. unless you 'rejoice always' & get happy, you haven't the "spirit of a sound mind" & end up like him, dominated by thoughts & reasonings, paying no attention to the other voices of your being which uplift you! the desolation that blows through the words "there is no God" is what is giving him that dead, goofy expression in his eyes & voice!
hahaha. what the fuck are you talking about? actually people awakened from their religious fantasies see god as a faithvirus infected laughcow. and if there is a "god" it would properly be beyond all human understanding as the faithful say. yet these dirty sandy hypocrites pretend to know its ways and thoughts!! so... when you say there is no god, its like a brave new expression of freedom. freedom from a divisive and laughable man made theocracy.
@xBLOODBAFx my friend, if you keep thinking like that, & spreading such concepts to others to make them fall from the compassionate promptings of their True Hearts, then i'm afraid you will drown in your own "bloodbaf", & there will be as many people caring about it, as you cared for yourself when you had an earthly body to swan around in.
cute analogy of my name, IF..i really maim their Hearts,that is. but i know people are better than that when in reality, their "true hearts" are pumps for blood. and i hope i'm wrong about them.. that it takes as much as a god to tell them to do good! when they really don't do it "from the heart" they just do it for reward in heaven; this makes them nothing more than civil slaves in a ridiculous bureaucracy between man and "divine".
@xBLOODBAFx i don't tho! i personally know that i'm given a spirit of Faith & Compassion. a 'rewarding' nature springs from those, & we bless one another! every action is thus motivated invisibly. i think ray comfort's view on evolutionist atheists really sums it up: "The theory of evolution gives wholesale license for sinners to sin. It opens the door to conscience-free fornication, adultery, pornography, and unrestrained self-indulgence. It cuts completely the ties to divine morality."
LOL! cool story bro. ill stop feeding you, cuz i already feel good enough "in my heart" to go masturbate with rusty hooks like all us nasty little atheists do. hmmm. i wonder what my motivation was? was it an inner Smitten signal god puts in people when he's drunk and "just happens" to send ppls to hell for no reason. those damn slick public relations "angels" haha. guess ill have to use scary ol' science to stop all the "viruses" and cancer god also made wile drunk.
@xBLOODBAFx you illustrate my point perfectly. what invisible motivator makes you type out all THAT? Love? i think it's show-offy goofy pride (you not happy!) but God still loves you, bro! :)
@xBLOODBAFx when Jesus told peter to "feed my sheep" He was speaking of how one's words really CAN give health & relief in this cruel world. if you won't receive that, there are others reading me who will, & they are most welcome. rock on everybuddy! see you in a Better Place! (:D
& what then, my friend, in their heart of hearts... do they care about-besides trusting in a single baseless concept.furthermore, why do they insist on this manufactured concept that is god to be a real part of them? and then strangely get their feelings hurt when their idea is challenged because "it" doesn't have evidence , hence respect. are they so afraid in their egos, at the thought of loosing it's holy powers?
This fool Hasan Rajabali do not have any logic to present.
Thats y he talk so imotionally like a politician and try to win the claps.
There are so many muslims who says confidently illogical statements. It is same like politicians who speak for votes. When you hear their speech, u will think they are right. And when you hear the opposition party speach, u will also think he is right.
Just compare how politely dan barker and richard carrier put their statements and compare with idiot rajabali.
@khalidsayd there are many people who will "politely" stick it to you! immoral atheists preach death. at least followers of mohammed believe in one God. What They Think He Is Like (would He come in a form in which He could die in your place? :) seems to be a matter of concern, at least temporarily...
I am an atheist, but the second guy (with suit and glasses) is a disgrace for atheists. He said "gravity is caused by bending of space and time". Albert Einstein proved it to be other way round.
By the way, all you religious people could you answer me what kind of stupid logic is this: "There is our universe. Who created it? Creator (supposedly God). Who created God? THAT IS HOLY AND UNQUESTIONABLE!" Hello! Wake up! Religion was created for the intelligence of ancient people. It's 21st century.
@TAGUSHKE : So you thought to have asked an intelligent question about the origin of God? How dense could you? How could an uncreated be created? You are too far behind, The Quran answers that 1400 yrs ago in this four line definition in Surah 112 (Purity of Faith) :Say: 1. He is Allah, the one and only ; 2. Allah, the eternal, absolute;3. He sires no offspring,[2] nor is He anyone's offspring;4 And there is none like Him.
If this is too much for you, I don't know what can!
I'm not even Muslim and I have got to say that Dan Barker's reference to the solar system was either uninformed or just stupid. The Quran makes it certain that Muslims are not to worship anything but 'Allah', which explains why there are no planets or stars named after Allah or Muhammad.
You're telling me an Muslim in America or anywere else cannot worship anything but Allah. This statement is lacking crusial information. Please keep your knowledge to yourself unless you have complete thought or refrence.
@LothairOfLorraine No it's because the majority of the planets had been named and worshiped as Gods long before Allah sent Muhammad to the world in the 6th Century. People used to actually think the planets were Gods that they observed in the night sky, now that we know exactly what planets are people seem to do that less, now gods are abstract.
I can't believe there is a debate against people who read primitve books and listen to them vs people that study science this is a insult to smart people.
@hudfadz Your belief, if you are a theist says you do care and wont leave atheists alone you have a duty to convert and spread the word so i made it my goal to stop the ill spread and push back so keep that in mind bro next time you comment on me.
My duty is to invite you, if you dont accept well good for you, its your CHOICE.
I dont see schools today forcing children into embracing a religion, but I do see them forcing us with a hole lot of science rubbish in text books that are completely false and misleading there is no doubt about that.
@hudfadz I don't want to force anyone to be atheist its not my problem what you believe just don't force it on me ive been there i don't wanna go back am sorry but i can't force myself to believe in something ive never believed in the first place. I agree with you i don't think schools should force people on subjects they don't like but science is a tool not a belief not a idea but a tool to discover nothing more.
No one should be forced to do anything they dont want to do period! unless it is forced by the law to uphold the law, I agree with you.
Science is a great tool, but the tool is limited, to teach children things that go outside the boundries of science, that is not teaching science, is wrong and that is exacly what is happening in our schools.
@hudfadz Why can't they disprove God? if they are so smart?He says chreation is irrelevent to his existance.Means even if the earth was to cease to exist He would continue to exist.God exist out side of this chration.Heavan is like in another plane of existance.Heavan has it's own laws of science.That would explane the discrepancy bible gives.When you read think about heavan's point of view or earth?
shut da fuck up dumb fuck. i dont like people who try to convince u. he sais he believed and no more. some shit happened to him he lost faiths in God who loves u and can give u what u wont if u desire. now he is trying to convince people of his bullshit and to lose faiths. shut the fuck up!!!
fingerprints are shaped in the womb. That is explained. Furthermore, the only reason it WOULDN'T hold up in court is because the world's population is so seperated and it would be inconceivable that someone with the same connections and friends and ties would have the same fingerprints. this reduces the chance by millions.
And the best definition to man is in the chapter 112 of The Glorious Qur'an
Al-Ikhlas
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3) And there is none comparable unto Him. (4)
when we muslims say God can see ,God can hear ,that doesn't mean he have eyes like us or ears it's just his attributes ...there is none like him ...and one thing
at 0:35:19 . GOD doesn't behave like his creation ...nobody knows god except his attributes that's why one Islamic scholar said knowing god is understanding him through his 99 atributes then know that you still don't know him...because human mind can not ,will not grasp who god is...
@lify21 blah blah blah. This is the nonsense that theists spew out. Lets sum up what you are saying "I want you to believe in "A" even though there is zero evidence to support the existence of "A". You want to know what "A" is? I can't tell you because we couldn't possibly understand, but I still want you to believe in it." What a load of horse shit. It's time for religious people to think for themselves and drop the fairy tales.
marrying a girl of age below 18 years is a crime in our country and hence we feel it that way. That is ground for our morality. But your man a girl of 9 years old-where that morality came from ?
marrying a girl of age below 18 years is a crime in our country and hence we feel it that way. That is ground for our morality. Muhammad married a girl of 9 years old-where that morality came from ?
@Thrideepspillai We now have enough scientific reasoning that having sex with a 9 year old is not moral in any stretch of the imagination. The part in the human brain responsible for judgment (frontal lobe) is barely formed at the age of 9. In addition, the bodies of prepubescent females are not equipped for sexual penetration. This can cause major damage to her organs and sterility. In conclusion, there is no morality in the RAPE of a child.
Who the hell does that worthless fuck thinks he is to tell somebody what they believe is wrong? He is just plain filth, he is mad and hateful. Hassanain Rajabali is like "what the hell is wrong with this evil bastard" all he could do is laugh at that stupid White hateful Leper Devil! He is just a peace of dirt you step on and keep walking.
Somebody should strangle that fuck to send him to hell FASTER! Cause he's going to hell regardless of if he believes in God or not.
@1982witchcraft LOL. Who is he to tell someone what they believe is wrong? He is a rational human being (unlike religious nuts) who has a right to free speech...something many religions would gladly take away from him given the chance. I can tell you are a religious person because of your violent reaction and desire to murder him because he doesn't believe in the same fairy tales as you do.
Who are you to tell anyone they are going to hell?
Dan fucker uses the dumbest arguments ever. He's way off topic and he's just hatful and mad at God. He sounds like filth, he looks like some kind of devil and he's going to hell.
Does God Not Exist? That's the debate, so why believers can never give evidence for god once and for all? because there's no evidence for god period,end of story!!
heathsawyer 2 days ago
if theres god he will appear on the sky at least once a year , god exist n he is talking to us through agents is very suspicious .
why do we have to listen to piss weak human who say god exist ?
loly1969 1 week ago
if u dont hv enough evidence suspend ur belief plsss , talk all u can , theres no evidence to prove god exist and he created universe , dont quote science to prove religion is correct ,
loly1969 1 week ago
45:55 "Bring me some material substance. Don't give me rhetoric." The fucking irony isn't even funny.
TheAzureSky1 2 weeks ago 2
5:15 Priceless face of someone listening to him after speaker says "I will offer Exhibit A for my position that there is no evidence for a God, and that is... this very debate" hahah
9288Savior 2 weeks ago
The ignorance and smugness of the two theist speakers is incredibly frustrating. I guess I'm used to watching debates with better educated opponents or opponents who are better at presenting arguments instead of just pandering to an audience who's largely on their side. I love to watch Carrier debate but it's hard to watch the other side. It's frankly embarrassing.
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MrP4rker 2 weeks ago
Fair enough. I was being blunt. But the real point is that his arguments were unpersuasive. For example, it won't do to say that one believes in God because, upon looking at oneself in the mirror, one can infer design. Has Rajabali even studied evolution? Does he know that the evidence for it is excellent? All of the vestigial organs and anatomical flaws in the human body are staring us right in the face. The old watchmaker argument has long been discredited.
nyscholartist 1 month ago
its not insecurity about the existence of God when one come to attend these sessions, rather it is the strengthening of faith that emerge from..its anonymous to love.no body can claim he loves 100%..its more logical to say that the love grows day by day..peace to all atheists who want to seek truth
salijanstar 1 month ago
all that logic and reason and science explained and Rajabali asks "what nonsense is that".....he doesn't get it. Just falls back to the design argument anyway.
adstanra 2 months ago
This Rajabali fellow is extremely stupid. And he needs to learn English.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist ..well u need to learn manners, that is more of a basic need
salijanstar 1 month ago
57:18 Such a bad argument. Because 1 in 5 women would die in natural childbirth, because of large head size, intelligence would be selected against. That assumes that mother's childbirth death rate is the ONLY factor in determining success of more intelligent offspring.
mjt532 3 months ago
@mjt532 It would be like saying that humans should be getting smaller and smaller, not larger...after all, a smaller infant would stand a better chance of not killing his mother in childbirth.
mjt532 3 months ago
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zytigon 4 months ago
ugh religious ppl always respond with the same points >_> its truly pathetic that grown adults believe in this bullshit
thesketchydude118 4 months ago 10
@thesketchydude118 Wanna try another one? What do you believe in ?
valgez1 4 months ago
@valgez1 im an athiest our points evolve as our understanding of sciences grow while religions are always stuck in the past therefore they always have the same points
thesketchydude118 4 months ago
@thesketchydude118 I see what you mean, but is it necessary to seek the answer in the religion? Religion, after all, is a political and economic institution, capitalizing on people's beliefs. However, there is one thing I'd like to take from The Bible - "God created man as of its own kind" - or smth like that, meaning that a man has an unlimited potential. I think that belief and science can be reconciled. We have some knowledge on the material world, but No knowledge on non-material, u agree ?
valgez1 4 months ago
@valgez1 What do you classify as non-material? Because galaxies were once "non-material". The stars in the sky were once Gods rather than objects of the "material" world. We only lack knowledge of the complete material world. Everything in this known world is material. What you classify as "non-material" is just material that is not yet understood. Maybe you mean things such as our thoughts. Well, that's simply the product of our material brains.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@iz2sicc Well, when you understand the "Non-material" then you can classify however you want it to. Until then it's non-material.
valgez1 4 months ago
Dan Barkers statements are clearly the result of careful and sincere reasoning. His world view has shifted from faith to reality. What an achievement.
Atheism is simply the acceptance of reality.
weberbeat 4 months ago
I once went up to a street preacher and asked him why God gave me nipples (im a man). He then packed his shit up and went somewhere else.
DIGITALSCREAMS 5 months ago
What? Saturn doesn't exist? I wasted my whole life!
TomFynn 5 months ago 10
Theists and atheists are all wrong
gamer3386 5 months ago 2
@gamer3386 how can that be?
lockwyn 4 months ago
grown men talking about fairytales, its quite funny actually, but mostly patethic.
lapamjuka 5 months ago
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@lapamjuka
its pathatic indeed when u think about it deeply
mideastatheist 5 months ago
that's good since he's sorrounded by the eyes of delusion. The muslim is worse religion in my opinion. Womens dont have freedom, head scarves, cant drive? I hate it when muslim said that their women have freedom, although obviosly they dont.
3dimensionalJoe 5 months ago
@3dimensionalJoe You don't know what Islam is and what Muslim is and yet you don't like the religion > and I thought Atheists were educated people
ikaaful 5 months ago
@ikaaful Oh I know religion you guys are all the same, you believe on things unseen, and you ignore evidence. To see by faith is to shut the eyes of reason you dumbass islam.
3dimensionalJoe 5 months ago
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and why men have nipples
CHISELEDJAW55 5 months ago
47 : 00.. =)
quemaster36 5 months ago in playlist Dan Barker & Richard Carrier v. Hassanain Rajabali & Micha
45:15.. =)
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Harry Potter is on this joint...
jspace22 5 months ago
the faces @12:03 are PRICELESS.. u can see the offense on the muslims face like daylight.
nickallah 5 months ago
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A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
QuestionForAtheists 6 months ago
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Of course God is real. I found the Garden of Eden He Created. Look at my Channel and see it for yourself.
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Umm....in 49:46 how can he stand there and say DNA is perfect....if we are perfect there would be no getting sick and no cancer. I am someone who is impacted with not having a perfect body. I suffer from an auto-immune disease it started when I was 13 and I had to take Methotrexate (Chemo) if there is a god he is one fucked up asshole to do this to me.
avaathome15 6 months ago
@avaathome15
I agree completely, I am atheist. Dna is inperfect that is why we degrade and die, had it been perfect we wouldn't have aged!
Daroxify 6 months ago
@Daroxify
DNA was created so we can degrade and die.
hudfadz 5 months ago
@hudfadz
Wow, thats some loving god...
Daroxify 5 months ago
@avaathome15 I hope science will advance alot in our generation, I really hope we could get rid of religion to accelerate advancement.
3dimensionalJoe 5 months ago
The bullet randomly appearing out of nowhere and hitting the man in the head is a very poor example,we know that man infact created guns and bullets.
DaAlphaOmega 6 months ago
Religion is an insecure reassuring man made thing to give us purpose in our lives.
DaAlphaOmega 6 months ago
the 1st religious guy to speak is failing, he's using human examples to back up his religious claims. the court of law has nothing to do with chat
Hippoman141 6 months ago
he's a genius, god does not exist, people want him to so badly the pat they falsely believe it
Hippoman141 6 months ago
Why does that second guy use the Isaac newton's gravity discovery, to be an explaination for the perfect order of the planets? It's as if he's saying that God, was so called believed, to have done it with his own hands? In whatever sense that would be? Did he ever think that maybe God created gravity and all these scientific orders and laws, as a result of his creation? Just because you finally scientifically can explain a phenomenon, doesn't mean it doesn't have a Creator.
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feuchster 6 months ago
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And neither does it mean there is a need for creator; and further more it contradicts what your holy book says...
is1337Correct 6 months ago
@HijabulousTV
Organized religion used to deny science entirely in place of creationist stories. Now that scientific discoveries are more and more irrefutable, religion was forced (in the face of destruction) to take a Deist approach and say God created the universal laws which everything but Him must follow. This is at least progress, much the say way that going from polytheism to monotheism is a step in the right direction. The ultimate goal, obviously, is REASON. We'll get there eventually.
Murchad999 6 months ago
Goddamn this guy is such an idiot.....
volvoamsel 7 months ago
@volvoamsel why would you say that?
lockwyn 7 months ago
so far the theist are winning, i'm looking forward to the rest of the debate
sorankurdi 7 months ago
dan barker jail raped the theists back to the 1st century!!! !!!!
nickallah 7 months ago
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theres no such thing as evil it does not exist
FIGHTFANNERD3 7 months ago
atheist win
FIGHTFANNERD3 7 months ago
what an ignorant crowd and debaters
MaddPuppet 7 months ago
@MaddPuppet stop trolling
FIGHTFANNERD3 7 months ago
Could a black whole simply be a gap where another galaxy is moving away from us at more than half the speed of light?
MaddPuppet 7 months ago
@MaddPuppet no
FIGHTFANNERD3 7 months ago
Dan Barker is a pretty good debater. I have never heard him before this.
MaddPuppet 7 months ago
"The whole is greater than the parts, disprove it", this one is easy, what would be the whole without the parts?Well it can't be anything because it's existence is based on the parts, so even if the whole has some improved complexity and utility because it's made of simpler parts it's totaly dependent on them, while the parts can exist without the whole, like a broken glass, or like atoms, they can exist without me existing, but i can't exist without atoms existing etc
alaskafreak 8 months ago
3 months ago, Satan was called 'Lord of the Flies", Bealbezub. The origin of the name shows the hands of man, creating the religion's roots.
The priests merely corrupted bealz'ul, "Lord on High" to destroy the believer's faith and take them into their fairy-tale.
psycotria 8 months ago
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He cursed :3
Traderrocky 8 months ago
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deprlve 8 months ago
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Guys, he's just doing the rebuttal on you
strutsandfrets 9 months ago
I'm just doing the rebuttalon you!
strutsandfrets 9 months ago
Denying the multiverse in the manor M.Corey is, is going to create an new version of creationists maybe this wave can be called 'multi-denialism'.
iloveredbull 9 months ago
the last guy doesn't realize that the Atheist he talks about simply had the same response as Newton when his theory raised new questions "oh, then God must have made it". Response which at least in Newton's case has been proven wrong in this very video.
elchafa 10 months ago
The guy with glasses is was so clear, and then the Muslim started saying incoherences... embarassing.
elchafa 10 months ago
@elchafa what incoherences are these that you talk about?
nking786 9 months ago
@nking786 When I have time to watch the video again I'll keep an eye out for them and once I remember them I'll reply.
elchafa 9 months ago
Michael Corey...what a Schmuck! Look at the way he smirks and nods along to Hassanain (what I expect an terrorist to be like). Is Michael a christian or muslim wanna be??
Klash92 11 months ago
@Klash92 What do you mean by "what I expect a terrorist to be like"?
elchafa 9 months ago
hassnain RajabAli got excited. The theistic argument have far more weight. At times , the atheistic arguments only sound denialism.
angularkid 11 months ago
@angularkid if ad hominems, assertions, assumptions, arguments from ignorance, etc. carry more weight on them than logical questions, critical thinking, valid arguments, etc. then, yes, you are correct.
juuonse 8 months ago
How lame is this world to believe in a magical man!
intimidator001 11 months ago 22
@intimidator001 well said, we need to outgrow religion!
lockwyn 7 months ago
How can Corey claim there's no imperfection in the universe? After hearing that, I'm sorry but I just can't take anything else he has to say seriously.
gigisdad 11 months ago
@gigisdad it depends on what you define as an imperfection.
nking786 9 months ago
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@nking786 Oh come on don't get into semantics now.
gigisdad 9 months ago
@nking786 Oh come on don't muddy the waters with semantics.
gigisdad 9 months ago
When viewing the audience I get the feeling that he's barking up the wrong three. These people have been indoctrinated from birth, as are their parents before them and so on and so forth. So in essence they will feel that you are "attacking" their whole identity, their whole being and the being of everyone that they love. Hence their reaction of anger and disbelief (fun word to use in this context). This would also explain the reason that they need others to belief the same thing.
HardheadzNL 11 months ago
@HardheadzNL i'm interested in what you thought of my direct quote of isaac newton's view of atheism...
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
@InnerMittenSignal If this quote were to be true, which I will take your word for, I will say this. Man has always been afraid of death as this is very uncertain, no one knows what's beyond death. And you don't want to leave your loved ones. Also, there have been many people for many years that have believed in a god that you should believe in, in order to get to a good place after death. Therefore, I think it's only natural that you should be scared when facing death and try to get mercy.
HardheadzNL 11 months ago
Not much of a debate. Angry theists trying in vain to tear apart the reasoned arguments of the atheists with word play and obfuscation. They should take a high school debate class to bolster their skills.
chriskraska 11 months ago
@chriskraska They should just use common sense and agree to the fact that we just aren't sure and should therefore not define the world by a seemingly ridiculous assumption.
HardheadzNL 11 months ago
@HardheadzNL that is exactly what Faith is though...believing a Good Guy is looking after us, even though our physical senses & brain reasonings have not proved it to us. the Scriptures say you can't even please God the smallest bit without it. & His nature is to give you your free will, whether you wish to please Him or not. so He remains elusive...on purpose. no one IS forced to be in God's Home with Him for Eternity. He wishes His children to choose Him!...as you'd wish your kids to do!
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
@InnerMittenSignal This is what you think, just beliefs, in my view positive and good beliefs. As these wouldn't divide and start wars. And I too belief that if there would be a god, he'd be a good guy, and therefore not eternally punish me for not believing in something that I can't be sure of. Religion is a highly personal thing, which should be kept privately, as to make sure everyone can live as they please and be in peace. And I think it's especially wrong to teach children to belief.
HardheadzNL 11 months ago
@InnerMittenSignal I can't clearly state my beliefs, therefore they might seem harsh and short sighted, but 500 characters isn't a lot.
So feel free to send me a message if you feel the need to further share our beliefs. You seem like a very reasonable person who is open to my beliefs, as I therefore are to yours.
Would you care to explain what you mean by "fog of war"?
And the forced I meant is applied by the various religious groups.
HardheadzNL 11 months ago
@HardheadzNL i know, 500 words ain't much! a 'fog of war' hides the battleground when u play 'warcraft' so that u can only see near yourself to fight unseen foes. i see actions as motivated by spirits, & thoughts also, as from radio stations your mind can hear. the One Holy Spirit of the Loving Creator can easily defeat the puny rebel being who opposes Him...& all his minions, since in Scripture satan is referred to as "lord of the flies"! but He wants to win humans with love not by force! :)
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
@chriskraska mine's loading so slow, i never get past that 1st speaker dude! lol! but i do know it's possible to go to Heaven without knowing what "obfuscation" means, or even going to high school, much less attending a debating class! i also know anger spirits won't be allowed to follow anybuddy there, no matter how much they bamboozled us on earth! Christians, save your anger for the Devil & his minions, not your fellow man! atheists, we forgive you...befuddled in your "fog of war"!
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
"This most beautiful system of sun, planets & comets could only proceed from the counsel & dominion of an intelligent Being. This Being governs all things not as the soul of the world but as Lord over all & on account of his dominion he is wont to be called Lord God or Universal Ruler. The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect. Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession & idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind it never had many professors."
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
@InnerMittenSignal
Its sad that you are so close minded that you accept the existence of an invisible being. (I am just assuming you are a Christian). Get out of your house, take a trip around the country/world. Study other religions. See how they contradict within each other. First off. Think about how old the bible is. Then, realize that the chances of words being lost in translation by religous fanatics is extremely high. Move on from there....
itscalledfutbol16 11 months ago
@itscalledfutbol16 ever see "mork & mindy"? mork would tell orson about "points of view", ie"relaxed"vs"lazy" etc? what you see as 'closed minded' vs 'comforted by faith'. i'm happy to take comfort, so why would you say it's "sad?" the things you recommend can lead to a meeting with the Designer of the World! religions are seeking such an answer! you're not? you're just happy to drift & never know for sure if a loving being created you? but how exciting to think He would communicate to us!
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
@itscalledfutbol16 but did you not see the quotes around my post? i was quoting sir isaac newton, for the benefit of those on here (& speaking in the vid) who don't seem to realize what a dedicated & prophetic believer newton was! just as charles darwin called a revival meeting to his own sick bed as he lay dying, but his anti-Christian relatives suppressed it & lied to the media of the day!
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
@InnerMittenSignal
The universe is a mystery. Since we have not fully discovered its origin, theists still cling to their religion for dear life...claiming that their religion is right. I hope you were not offended in any way by my last comment. Feel free to reply back. But i will not reply to your response. I have expressed my views, and you will do the same to me. No need to get into a wasteful debate :)
itscalledfutbol16 11 months ago
@itscalledfutbol16 you're right, arguing & debating are not the way to win someone's heart. that's why God doesn't try to win us that way, but by coming down & taking the punishment we all eventually deserve. it's our crappy things we do that convince our own selves that we're not worthy of His Presence. so we avoid Him in shame, even after our bodies die & we are but still-sentient shades! but He has purchased our pardon! :)
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
@InnerMittenSignal Hahaha. God is forced upon those that choose to belief as they wish, by those that belief in god. Is that how you think god wants to win us?
HardheadzNL 11 months ago
@HardheadzNL i don't see anything hahaha about that idea. if it's being forced, it's not from Him, even if it's describing What He Did...even a bit of What He's Like! "spirit" is a noun that describes the invisible force behind visible action, including speech. a spirit can be good or fallen. the most wicked spirit of all is like a politician who prints obnoxious pamphlets, then signs his opponent's name. God doesn't force stuff. truly, if that's what you're perceiving, it's not Him! (:D
InnerMittenSignal 11 months ago
exact isaac newton quote: "Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done.[8]"
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
@videoarguingdude, ..."Newton saw a monotheistic God as the masterful creator whose existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation. Although born into an Anglican family, by his thirties Newton held a Christian faith that, had it been made public, would not have been considered orthodox by mainstream Christianity" (but at least he was seeking to God for Truth & Light! :)
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
:) but Jesus is not a religion, He's a person you can relate to who loves both His People & His precious creation! He's not angry at you, He came to save you! & there are no bombs hidden on him...in fact...He will put your ear back on if someone else (it was peter actually) shears it off of you in political anger!
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
this muslim guy is intelligent
MrPathanStyle 1 year ago
@MrPathanStyle no he's not
FIGHTFANNERD3 7 months ago
...and he thinks Faith is a game? i tremble for him! when he first mentioned saturn it came to mind how much that sounds like satan, & i always thought jupiter was a consonant switch for lucifer. there's an unseen spirit world that makes its presence felt, however we try to elude it. i think the greek 'zeus' sounds a little like 'yay zoo'z...& they thought he was the top god...interesting...& that romans who crucified him, replaced him with jupiter...lucifer if u fudge the consonants.
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
yikes, the 1st guy is apostate! as soon as he opened his mouth he seemed totally goofy & did not come across as Happy. unless you 'rejoice always' & get happy, you haven't the "spirit of a sound mind" & end up like him, dominated by thoughts & reasonings, paying no attention to the other voices of your being which uplift you! the desolation that blows through the words "there is no God" is what is giving him that dead, goofy expression in his eyes & voice!
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
@InnerMittenSignal
hahaha. what the fuck are you talking about? actually people awakened from their religious fantasies see god as a faithvirus infected laughcow. and if there is a "god" it would properly be beyond all human understanding as the faithful say. yet these dirty sandy hypocrites pretend to know its ways and thoughts!! so... when you say there is no god, its like a brave new expression of freedom. freedom from a divisive and laughable man made theocracy.
xBLOODBAFx 1 year ago
@xBLOODBAFx my friend, if you keep thinking like that, & spreading such concepts to others to make them fall from the compassionate promptings of their True Hearts, then i'm afraid you will drown in your own "bloodbaf", & there will be as many people caring about it, as you cared for yourself when you had an earthly body to swan around in.
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
cute analogy of my name, IF..i really maim their Hearts,that is. but i know people are better than that when in reality, their "true hearts" are pumps for blood. and i hope i'm wrong about them.. that it takes as much as a god to tell them to do good! when they really don't do it "from the heart" they just do it for reward in heaven; this makes them nothing more than civil slaves in a ridiculous bureaucracy between man and "divine".
xBLOODBAFx 1 year ago
@xBLOODBAFx i don't tho! i personally know that i'm given a spirit of Faith & Compassion. a 'rewarding' nature springs from those, & we bless one another! every action is thus motivated invisibly. i think ray comfort's view on evolutionist atheists really sums it up: "The theory of evolution gives wholesale license for sinners to sin. It opens the door to conscience-free fornication, adultery, pornography, and unrestrained self-indulgence. It cuts completely the ties to divine morality."
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
@InnerMittenSignal
LOL! cool story bro. ill stop feeding you, cuz i already feel good enough "in my heart" to go masturbate with rusty hooks like all us nasty little atheists do. hmmm. i wonder what my motivation was? was it an inner Smitten signal god puts in people when he's drunk and "just happens" to send ppls to hell for no reason. those damn slick public relations "angels" haha. guess ill have to use scary ol' science to stop all the "viruses" and cancer god also made wile drunk.
xBLOODBAFx 1 year ago
@xBLOODBAFx you illustrate my point perfectly. what invisible motivator makes you type out all THAT? Love? i think it's show-offy goofy pride (you not happy!) but God still loves you, bro! :)
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
@xBLOODBAFx when Jesus told peter to "feed my sheep" He was speaking of how one's words really CAN give health & relief in this cruel world. if you won't receive that, there are others reading me who will, & they are most welcome. rock on everybuddy! see you in a Better Place! (:D
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
@InnerMittenSignal
& what then, my friend, in their heart of hearts... do they care about-besides trusting in a single baseless concept.furthermore, why do they insist on this manufactured concept that is god to be a real part of them? and then strangely get their feelings hurt when their idea is challenged because "it" doesn't have evidence , hence respect. are they so afraid in their egos, at the thought of loosing it's holy powers?
xBLOODBAFx 1 year ago
This fool Hasan Rajabali do not have any logic to present.
Thats y he talk so imotionally like a politician and try to win the claps.
There are so many muslims who says confidently illogical statements. It is same like politicians who speak for votes. When you hear their speech, u will think they are right. And when you hear the opposition party speach, u will also think he is right.
Just compare how politely dan barker and richard carrier put their statements and compare with idiot rajabali.
khalidsayd 1 year ago
@khalidsayd there are many people who will "politely" stick it to you! immoral atheists preach death. at least followers of mohammed believe in one God. What They Think He Is Like (would He come in a form in which He could die in your place? :) seems to be a matter of concern, at least temporarily...
InnerMittenSignal 1 year ago
this is gay
Grigori349 1 year ago
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you know what else says god exists? my asshole, but people dont go around believing what my asshole says
MonteyCarlo92081 1 year ago
I am an atheist, but the second guy (with suit and glasses) is a disgrace for atheists. He said "gravity is caused by bending of space and time". Albert Einstein proved it to be other way round.
By the way, all you religious people could you answer me what kind of stupid logic is this: "There is our universe. Who created it? Creator (supposedly God). Who created God? THAT IS HOLY AND UNQUESTIONABLE!" Hello! Wake up! Religion was created for the intelligence of ancient people. It's 21st century.
TAGUSHKE 1 year ago
@TAGUSHKE : So you thought to have asked an intelligent question about the origin of God? How dense could you? How could an uncreated be created? You are too far behind, The Quran answers that 1400 yrs ago in this four line definition in Surah 112 (Purity of Faith) :Say: 1. He is Allah, the one and only ; 2. Allah, the eternal, absolute;3. He sires no offspring,[2] nor is He anyone's offspring;4 And there is none like Him.
If this is too much for you, I don't know what can!
Famalang 1 year ago
@GunnerSquad13B
what are you on about?
hudfadz 1 year ago
LOL ketselquathl !!!!!!!!!!! @ 0:01:54
doritoesPLAY 1 year ago
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the theists got owned so bad
Dathinkingman 1 year ago
I'm not even Muslim and I have got to say that Dan Barker's reference to the solar system was either uninformed or just stupid. The Quran makes it certain that Muslims are not to worship anything but 'Allah', which explains why there are no planets or stars named after Allah or Muhammad.
LothairOfLorraine 1 year ago
@LothairOfLorraine
Muslims can have any belief they want.
You're telling me an Muslim in America or anywere else cannot worship anything but Allah. This statement is lacking crusial information. Please keep your knowledge to yourself unless you have complete thought or refrence.
ColeJacobMorris 1 year ago
@ColeJacobMorris huh?
LothairOfLorraine 1 year ago
@LothairOfLorraine No it's because the majority of the planets had been named and worshiped as Gods long before Allah sent Muhammad to the world in the 6th Century. People used to actually think the planets were Gods that they observed in the night sky, now that we know exactly what planets are people seem to do that less, now gods are abstract.
grannysnatcha 1 year ago
I can't believe there is a debate against people who read primitve books and listen to them vs people that study science this is a insult to smart people.
wachnathan 1 year ago
@wachnathan
to be honest i think the smarter ones here are the theists
hudfadz 1 year ago
@hudfadz Thats why i am ex-theist and dam proud of it.
wachnathan 1 year ago
@wachnathan
good for you, do what you like, coulnt care less
hudfadz 1 year ago
@hudfadz Your belief, if you are a theist says you do care and wont leave atheists alone you have a duty to convert and spread the word so i made it my goal to stop the ill spread and push back so keep that in mind bro next time you comment on me.
wachnathan 1 year ago
@wachnathan
My duty is to invite you, if you dont accept well good for you, its your CHOICE.
I dont see schools today forcing children into embracing a religion, but I do see them forcing us with a hole lot of science rubbish in text books that are completely false and misleading there is no doubt about that.
hudfadz 1 year ago
@hudfadz I don't want to force anyone to be atheist its not my problem what you believe just don't force it on me ive been there i don't wanna go back am sorry but i can't force myself to believe in something ive never believed in the first place. I agree with you i don't think schools should force people on subjects they don't like but science is a tool not a belief not a idea but a tool to discover nothing more.
wachnathan 1 year ago
@wachnathan
No one should be forced to do anything they dont want to do period! unless it is forced by the law to uphold the law, I agree with you.
Science is a great tool, but the tool is limited, to teach children things that go outside the boundries of science, that is not teaching science, is wrong and that is exacly what is happening in our schools.
hudfadz 1 year ago
@wachnathan
At the end of the day we are all brothers and we should all respect eachother and live a life of peace
hudfadz 1 year ago
@hudfadz Exactly i think so even though i am guilty of being a ass atheist i will admit that.
wachnathan 1 year ago
@hudfadz Why can't they disprove God? if they are so smart?He says chreation is irrelevent to his existance.Means even if the earth was to cease to exist He would continue to exist.God exist out side of this chration.Heavan is like in another plane of existance.Heavan has it's own laws of science.That would explane the discrepancy bible gives.When you read think about heavan's point of view or earth?
ghosttrain2066 1 year ago
those stats have changed
chrisontopofhertwice 1 year ago
Wow I'm amazed at the nonsense and fallacies that people are cheering for.
keivspare 1 year ago
I guess those muslim women would have gotten beaten had they clapped for that first atheist's speech. Poor women, unable to even clap...
SlayingMinion 1 year ago
There is no evidence for a non God either
BGfromGB 1 year ago
God has limits. He's not evil He's not unjust and etc etc..
nefrinhayat 1 year ago
ohh wow..dan's "evidence" make me laugh. what's wrong with that human being? looool
nefrinhayat 1 year ago
15 people are butthurt theists
rob22uk 1 year ago
According to Islam, we cannot judge whether or not his fate will be in heaven and hell. We Muslims know that we don't even know our fate.
In the name of God the Beneficient the Merciful
And I shall not worship that which ye worship" Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. "
109:4-6
Ali1573 1 year ago
Richard Carrier was very impressive. That may have been one of the cleanest refutations I've ever seen. Very clear minded.
CountMantis 1 year ago
The first theist used strawman after strawman.
joshm60 1 year ago
sorry but the atheist is really an idiot, and his approach to finding answers is really shallow
abmsu86 1 year ago
And I find it funy that Muslims are cometing that he's goin to hell well acording to buddism he'll be reincordinading
1navyseal1962 1 year ago
Atheists respect "god" more then religios ppl
1navyseal1962 1 year ago
i dont even wanna listen to this idiot.
zuj1984 1 year ago
shut da fuck up dumb fuck. i dont like people who try to convince u. he sais he believed and no more. some shit happened to him he lost faiths in God who loves u and can give u what u wont if u desire. now he is trying to convince people of his bullshit and to lose faiths. shut the fuck up!!!
zuj1984 1 year ago
fingerprints are shaped in the womb. That is explained. Furthermore, the only reason it WOULDN'T hold up in court is because the world's population is so seperated and it would be inconceivable that someone with the same connections and friends and ties would have the same fingerprints. this reduces the chance by millions.
fragman08 1 year ago
...What did we accomplish from all this?
wasupi355 1 year ago
c'monnnn, the crowd is so one-sided.
StarCreme 1 year ago
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A Very Unusual Proof for the Existence of God: watch?v=Kj8UdHuP5l8
Taking the burden of proof head on:
1.) The quantum wave-function of the universe is self-collapsing.
2.) Self-collapsing wave-functions are minds. (Penrose's Orch-OR)
Conclusion: The Wave-function of the Universe is a Mind!
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
What a mess.
Barker and Carrier did just fine, but it went completely over the heads of the rest.
Rajabali then complained (unjustified) about rethoric and continued by giving nothing but rethoric himself. Successfully.
Corey at least tried argumenting, but he sadly doesn't know what he's talking about.
deemzje 1 year ago
what weak arguments..lol
Zapanath 1 year ago
And the best definition to man is in the chapter 112 of The Glorious Qur'an
Al-Ikhlas
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3) And there is none comparable unto Him. (4)
lify21 1 year ago
when we muslims say God can see ,God can hear ,that doesn't mean he have eyes like us or ears it's just his attributes ...there is none like him ...and one thing
at 0:35:19 . GOD doesn't behave like his creation ...nobody knows god except his attributes that's why one Islamic scholar said knowing god is understanding him through his 99 atributes then know that you still don't know him...because human mind can not ,will not grasp who god is...
lify21 1 year ago
@lify21 blah blah blah. This is the nonsense that theists spew out. Lets sum up what you are saying "I want you to believe in "A" even though there is zero evidence to support the existence of "A". You want to know what "A" is? I can't tell you because we couldn't possibly understand, but I still want you to believe in it." What a load of horse shit. It's time for religious people to think for themselves and drop the fairy tales.
ms9809 1 year ago
theists has no head
Thrideepspillai 1 year ago
marrying a girl of age below 18 years is a crime in our country and hence we feel it that way. That is ground for our morality. But your man a girl of 9 years old-where that morality came from ?
Thrideepspillai 1 year ago
marrying a girl of age below 18 years is a crime in our country and hence we feel it that way. That is ground for our morality. Muhammad married a girl of 9 years old-where that morality came from ?
Thrideepspillai 1 year ago
@Thrideepspillai We now have enough scientific reasoning that having sex with a 9 year old is not moral in any stretch of the imagination. The part in the human brain responsible for judgment (frontal lobe) is barely formed at the age of 9. In addition, the bodies of prepubescent females are not equipped for sexual penetration. This can cause major damage to her organs and sterility. In conclusion, there is no morality in the RAPE of a child.
Asperuaca 1 year ago
Who the hell does that worthless fuck thinks he is to tell somebody what they believe is wrong? He is just plain filth, he is mad and hateful. Hassanain Rajabali is like "what the hell is wrong with this evil bastard" all he could do is laugh at that stupid White hateful Leper Devil! He is just a peace of dirt you step on and keep walking.
Somebody should strangle that fuck to send him to hell FASTER! Cause he's going to hell regardless of if he believes in God or not.
1982witchcraft 1 year ago
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Zapanath 1 year ago
@1982witchcraft LOL. Who is he to tell someone what they believe is wrong? He is a rational human being (unlike religious nuts) who has a right to free speech...something many religions would gladly take away from him given the chance. I can tell you are a religious person because of your violent reaction and desire to murder him because he doesn't believe in the same fairy tales as you do.
Who are you to tell anyone they are going to hell?
Why does it matter that he is white?
ms9809 1 year ago
@ms9809 Actually I'm not religious AT ALL
1982witchcraft 1 year ago
@1982witchcraft You believe in Hell but you're not religious? Hmmm....
ms9809 1 year ago
Dan fucker uses the dumbest arguments ever. He's way off topic and he's just hatful and mad at God. He sounds like filth, he looks like some kind of devil and he's going to hell.
1982witchcraft 1 year ago