I'm reading your books and discovered i'm a very pessimist and depressive person, which i knew already, but now i'm understanding why. i hope it helps me to solve my problems. Thanks a lot!
why is it so good to live so long ? why whats going on what is gonna happen whats the difference between 60 or 65 ? I rather die a pessimist at 50 then a optimist at 95 . Such a lovely world we live in i wanna be 95 one day and still see hunger war disease destruction and optimists .
This guy, Martin Seligman, supports and takes part of animal torture using dogs in experimental labs. Why support him in any way? Let him know you do not approve. It is a fact that invitro and computer testing works better.
How else do you describe electrocuting a dog until it craps iteslf and lays on the ground without moving while still getting electrocuted? Then spin doctor it up to say "hey people learn to be helpless, look, these tourtured dogs dont even try to escape anymore cause I taught them they have no way out of this tourture" .....Dark age quackery..... It's like stating the obvious while trying to make it profound and take credit for it as your own.
This guy tourted 150+ dogs..many so long he broke their will to escape laying in severe pain, wining and pissing themselves in a heap. Then abused them more to see how well they would "self help". Its total quakery. The only human traits that give someone the confidence to conduct these worthless experiments is profound egotistical entitlement (I.e he still practices phycology and writes self help books..sick) or severe psychological problems (likely what he was exploring at the time).
you poor ignorant, if you like more dogs than human kind you are either an ignorant or a zoophytic sick bastard. If you prefer experimenting in human beings go join PETA.
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@shlever you poor ignorant, if you like more dogs than human kind you are either an ignorant or a zoophytic sick bastard. If you prefer experimenting in human beings go join PETA.
Positive psychology so far is an interesting mixed bag of findings; and I think the argument here about the dogs is an important point; how does one rebuild after one's "spirit has been broken," as with the dogs, who lose their sense of agency over time -- when you have someone who is just "trying to be good" dominated by someone working to discover, through intimidation, the "furthest extent of what they can get away with" (egosyntotic). What does happiness mean to each of those individuals?
the truth of the matter is mastery he is a master of the mind like a cardiologist the heart we need mastery of ourselves this is one of the springs of problems in the world
Sarah Palin shoots wolves from a helicopter. This guy is not running for anything. I am interested in his ideas, not his character, I am not electing him to anything.
until he started touring with this self-promotional fluff, it was his most well-known "achievement." google "learned helplessness." he didn't just apply shocks to dogs; he repeatedly shocked them until they gave up trying to escape the shocks, for the purpose of demonstrating that... hopelessness exists.
Fluff? Not at all. The principles of Authentic Happiness are well developed and very sensible. He's no lightweight. He follows many great (including a Nobel prize winner - Beck) A Pensylvania where is very highly respected.
I've been privileged to have conversed with Dr Seligman. My question to you would be, how much perceived beneficial work does a person have to do, before the perceived detrimental work that they have done, prior to it, can be accepted as having a part in the persons history but not in defining their future. At an educational conference, Dr Seligman walked his talk, continues to be concerned that the science be improved and proven. This is not a 'Fluff' act.
Applying shocks to animals (and other such treatments) is one of the most important methods of psychological research. If we eat other animals for our benefit, why shouldn't we perform tests on other animals for our benefit?
No, of course they don't; remember the experiment was done before the ethical position on experiments with animals.
IIRC, the experiment that showed the dogs learned helplessness was a conditioning experiment gone wrong.
When the setup was unknowingly changed and the dogs were shocked on the "wrong" side of the barrier, after they had learned to jumpt the barrier to avoid the shock - the dogs would just lie there and not try to escape the shock.
I'm reading your books and discovered i'm a very pessimist and depressive person, which i knew already, but now i'm understanding why. i hope it helps me to solve my problems. Thanks a lot!
chess1302 3 months ago
why is it so good to live so long ? why whats going on what is gonna happen whats the difference between 60 or 65 ? I rather die a pessimist at 50 then a optimist at 95 . Such a lovely world we live in i wanna be 95 one day and still see hunger war disease destruction and optimists .
behzad500bc 5 months ago
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This guy, Martin Seligman, supports and takes part of animal torture using dogs in experimental labs. Why support him in any way? Let him know you do not approve. It is a fact that invitro and computer testing works better.
tenzinangmo 1 year ago
How else do you describe electrocuting a dog until it craps iteslf and lays on the ground without moving while still getting electrocuted? Then spin doctor it up to say "hey people learn to be helpless, look, these tourtured dogs dont even try to escape anymore cause I taught them they have no way out of this tourture" .....Dark age quackery..... It's like stating the obvious while trying to make it profound and take credit for it as your own.
shlever 1 year ago
This guy tourted 150+ dogs..many so long he broke their will to escape laying in severe pain, wining and pissing themselves in a heap. Then abused them more to see how well they would "self help". Its total quakery. The only human traits that give someone the confidence to conduct these worthless experiments is profound egotistical entitlement (I.e he still practices phycology and writes self help books..sick) or severe psychological problems (likely what he was exploring at the time).
shlever 1 year ago
@shlever i think that's a gross misrepresentation of the test.
FastRita 1 year ago
@shlever You are ignorant, go join PETA if you can'y handle it ashole.
fegb77 5 months ago
you poor ignorant, if you like more dogs than human kind you are either an ignorant or a zoophytic sick bastard. If you prefer experimenting in human beings go join PETA.
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@shlever You are ignorant, go join PETA if you can'y handle it ashole.
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The most useful question ever, is
What is the underlying law of nature?
Be among the first to identify, understand and apply its answer. Why?
1. It is the way of all things. (observable)
2. It is the basis and absolute reference frame of the principles of thought, intelligence, communication and logic.
3. It made possible the formulation of these four principles.
4. Conscious use of these principles permit efficacy and efficiency to multiply in business and life.
Google it, as a start
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
Positive psychology so far is an interesting mixed bag of findings; and I think the argument here about the dogs is an important point; how does one rebuild after one's "spirit has been broken," as with the dogs, who lose their sense of agency over time -- when you have someone who is just "trying to be good" dominated by someone working to discover, through intimidation, the "furthest extent of what they can get away with" (egosyntotic). What does happiness mean to each of those individuals?
conzatorium 2 years ago
why are the audio and video out of sync?
jpg0572 2 years ago 6
@jpg057 there should come an 'advanced' option to enable AV sync correction (+ - buttons?
namitsu1 1 year ago
the truth of the matter is mastery he is a master of the mind like a cardiologist the heart we need mastery of ourselves this is one of the springs of problems in the world
violin144000 3 years ago
Sarah Palin shoots wolves from a helicopter. This guy is not running for anything. I am interested in his ideas, not his character, I am not electing him to anything.
ohsnap31 3 years ago 6
Excellent reply, I agree with you wholeheartdelly
mariana2062 3 years ago
I have heard about Positive Psychology for about a year. Sounds pretty interesting.
yanaconrr 3 years ago
seligman is clear, convincing and interesting: a great video for understanding the new approach to psychology
bobaubrey 4 years ago 2
Except he used animals in his experiments. There is one experiment where he applied shocks to dogs.
philanderadriaan 4 years ago
what experiment would that be?
musictheory101 4 years ago
until he started touring with this self-promotional fluff, it was his most well-known "achievement." google "learned helplessness." he didn't just apply shocks to dogs; he repeatedly shocked them until they gave up trying to escape the shocks, for the purpose of demonstrating that... hopelessness exists.
bucketoflead 3 years ago
Fluff? Not at all. The principles of Authentic Happiness are well developed and very sensible. He's no lightweight. He follows many great (including a Nobel prize winner - Beck) A Pensylvania where is very highly respected.
entity3sf 3 years ago
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Dogs absolutely do deserve shock treatment. Look at what Pit Bulls have done to us historically.
jpg0572 2 years ago
Look at what we have done to them historically.
D0g63rt 2 years ago
@D0g63rt to whom - pit bulls?
jpg0572 2 years ago
I've been privileged to have conversed with Dr Seligman. My question to you would be, how much perceived beneficial work does a person have to do, before the perceived detrimental work that they have done, prior to it, can be accepted as having a part in the persons history but not in defining their future. At an educational conference, Dr Seligman walked his talk, continues to be concerned that the science be improved and proven. This is not a 'Fluff' act.
WRandP 2 years ago
Applying shocks to animals (and other such treatments) is one of the most important methods of psychological research. If we eat other animals for our benefit, why shouldn't we perform tests on other animals for our benefit?
arey051012 4 years ago
send me a link to prove this. I thought scientist's don;'t do this anymoire
Reido2828 3 years ago
Dogs *deserve* to be shocked.
No, of course they don't; remember the experiment was done before the ethical position on experiments with animals.
IIRC, the experiment that showed the dogs learned helplessness was a conditioning experiment gone wrong.
When the setup was unknowingly changed and the dogs were shocked on the "wrong" side of the barrier, after they had learned to jumpt the barrier to avoid the shock - the dogs would just lie there and not try to escape the shock.
jeromekerngarcia 3 years ago
and exactly who cares?
themightygimp 3 years ago