One reason Sir Barton ran so often is because he was a lazy horse that liked to eat and didn't like to train. Also horses today take the drug Lasix which helps control them from bleeding in their lungs but severely dehydrates the horse and takes a couple of weeks to recover.Many horses use to run on a few days rest. Ross had a filly named Milkmaid who ran in the 1919 Preakness with Sir Barton and a few days later she ran in the first Pimlico Oaks and won. Oaks is now the Black-Eyed Susan.
daym talk about going down, you win the TC, you have your head handed to you by MOW, you fail at stud, and then your bred for 5-10 $ a cover, and buried under a plastic statue. wow
I want to correct several of the misstatements posted here. The first is about the photo showing his ribs. If you go to the race track you will often see the horses ribs when they are breathing hard. They are lean and athletic. The Triple Crown races were raced May 10th, May 14th and June 11th 1919. At the Belmont Sir Barton easily won running 2:15 2/5 seconds an American record. He also won the Withers Stakes 10 days after the Preakness.
He won the Triple Crown in 14 days. No wonder he was never the same again. Sad that he is best remembered for the match race and not all of his other accomplishments.
Not 14 days. Closer to 5 weeks total, as it still is. Except I think as many horses before the '70s, he ran in another major race between the Preakness/Belmont. MOW did the next year - Withers between Preakness and Belmont.
And Sir Barton WAS a top horse beyond the TC - he was much better. He wouldn't have been HOY if not - and he beat Exterminator and set records (matched by MOW). The horse was NOT bad.
im sorry but i disagree its not ridiculous that they get good rest its smart and less risky for the horse. whats ridiculous is having only 3 days rest then racing again.
Of course it's less risky. Where does it end? Having 6 months rest?
Regular horses had/have to work every day all the time. I see no big deal about running a horse every day. Before 1900, horses were frequently running every day or even - gasp - having to RUN OFF a DQ - i.e., running 2 races in a day (HINDOO).
Thanks for all the video's Carly. I've been reading a book about all the Triple Crown winners and it's nice to be able to see the real horse in action.
I really hope that's the case, even though it's still sad. I was just a little shocked at the first picture, where you can see all his ribs, and he just looks wasted away. Is that the picture you're talking about as well? But also, I just can't help but think he wasn't around the best people because horses don't "HATE all human and are bad-tempered" without good reason.
The reason is genetics. HASTINGS was a nasty horse who really hated about all living things, and there is no "good reason" for that. Not every bad character is caused by "evil" humans - why on earth would they hate horses?
As for the photos - I don't know, but that conformation shot may be later retired photo. Don't accuse JKL Ross (who was MUCH younger than the late photo shown - i.e., photos out of context) of cruelty based on an undated photo.
Looking at these pictures make me sick. What kind of utter bastards did he have for owners/trainers? He looks skeletal, the poor dear. What a sad life he had.
Let's clear up this nonsense about Sir Barton being a "bad" horse. He was top notch, definitely as good as any given HOY type horse of any given year.
The horse was fair as a 2yo, never winning until the Derby. After that, he frequently won big stakes, always finished respectably, and set several time records including at Saratoga over the great EXTERMINATOR.
Also, it's misleading to say "he never won another race" after MOW. Silly statements like that (the same as with War Admiral, although that was actually less true) imply the horse ran dozens times more and blew it. SB and WA ran all of about 4x each IIRC after their famed matches. Big deal they didn't quite manage to win from so few.
man o war showed this guy what a real racehorse is all about. yes it was only 1 race but we all know man o war was the better of he 2 without question
lol, that or like if his leg snapped, but his cock would grow into a leg, then after the race, he would go get head from Chuck Norris, after he got some bitch pregnant
The Sir Barton/Man O' War was the first horserace to be completely filmed. Also I found footage of Sir Barton's Derby race at the Derby website.(thought you might want to know, carly)
geese i didnt know sir barton was a bad race horse, i thought it pretty cool that he only had a 4 day break, and then raced before the belmont people would never do that nowadays, maybe man o' war broke his spirit as seabiscuit did war admirals? haha
carlykaiser, how do you get so much great action of horseracing. we should talk sometime, i am a very large horseracing fan. where do you get this stuff?? its amazing!
Jewels of the Triple Crown, a DVD a friend sent me a long time ago. When the screen starts out black, then slowly you see the picture, is from the DVD
does sir barton have any kids at all
liljkm12 1 month ago
One reason Sir Barton ran so often is because he was a lazy horse that liked to eat and didn't like to train. Also horses today take the drug Lasix which helps control them from bleeding in their lungs but severely dehydrates the horse and takes a couple of weeks to recover.Many horses use to run on a few days rest. Ross had a filly named Milkmaid who ran in the 1919 Preakness with Sir Barton and a few days later she ran in the first Pimlico Oaks and won. Oaks is now the Black-Eyed Susan.
cshaffer08 1 year ago
daym talk about going down, you win the TC, you have your head handed to you by MOW, you fail at stud, and then your bred for 5-10 $ a cover, and buried under a plastic statue. wow
prowlifik 1 year ago
I want to correct several of the misstatements posted here. The first is about the photo showing his ribs. If you go to the race track you will often see the horses ribs when they are breathing hard. They are lean and athletic. The Triple Crown races were raced May 10th, May 14th and June 11th 1919. At the Belmont Sir Barton easily won running 2:15 2/5 seconds an American record. He also won the Withers Stakes 10 days after the Preakness.
cshaffer08 2 years ago
@cshaffer08 Actually it was 2:17-2, not 2:15.
theOlLineRebel 1 year ago
He won the Triple Crown in 14 days. No wonder he was never the same again. Sad that he is best remembered for the match race and not all of his other accomplishments.
MelC1954 2 years ago
@MelC1954
Not 14 days. Closer to 5 weeks total, as it still is. Except I think as many horses before the '70s, he ran in another major race between the Preakness/Belmont. MOW did the next year - Withers between Preakness and Belmont.
And Sir Barton WAS a top horse beyond the TC - he was much better. He wouldn't have been HOY if not - and he beat Exterminator and set records (matched by MOW). The horse was NOT bad.
theOlLineRebel 1 year ago
im sorry but i disagree its not ridiculous that they get good rest its smart and less risky for the horse. whats ridiculous is having only 3 days rest then racing again.
red2138 2 years ago
@red2138
Of course it's less risky. Where does it end? Having 6 months rest?
Regular horses had/have to work every day all the time. I see no big deal about running a horse every day. Before 1900, horses were frequently running every day or even - gasp - having to RUN OFF a DQ - i.e., running 2 races in a day (HINDOO).
theOlLineRebel 1 year ago
Thanks for all the video's Carly. I've been reading a book about all the Triple Crown winners and it's nice to be able to see the real horse in action.
6694deb 2 years ago
I really hope that's the case, even though it's still sad. I was just a little shocked at the first picture, where you can see all his ribs, and he just looks wasted away. Is that the picture you're talking about as well? But also, I just can't help but think he wasn't around the best people because horses don't "HATE all human and are bad-tempered" without good reason.
LadyTwenties 3 years ago
@LadyTwenties
The reason is genetics. HASTINGS was a nasty horse who really hated about all living things, and there is no "good reason" for that. Not every bad character is caused by "evil" humans - why on earth would they hate horses?
As for the photos - I don't know, but that conformation shot may be later retired photo. Don't accuse JKL Ross (who was MUCH younger than the late photo shown - i.e., photos out of context) of cruelty based on an undated photo.
theOlLineRebel 1 year ago
Looking at these pictures make me sick. What kind of utter bastards did he have for owners/trainers? He looks skeletal, the poor dear. What a sad life he had.
LadyTwenties 3 years ago
Let's clear up this nonsense about Sir Barton being a "bad" horse. He was top notch, definitely as good as any given HOY type horse of any given year.
The horse was fair as a 2yo, never winning until the Derby. After that, he frequently won big stakes, always finished respectably, and set several time records including at Saratoga over the great EXTERMINATOR.
Please, let's not forget that.
theOlLineRebel 3 years ago
Also, it's misleading to say "he never won another race" after MOW. Silly statements like that (the same as with War Admiral, although that was actually less true) imply the horse ran dozens times more and blew it. SB and WA ran all of about 4x each IIRC after their famed matches. Big deal they didn't quite manage to win from so few.
theOlLineRebel 3 years ago
Just looking at a picture of this horse gives me chills, i wonder what it was lik 2 watch him run...
TripleCrownSeeker 3 years ago
man o war showed this guy what a real racehorse is all about. yes it was only 1 race but we all know man o war was the better of he 2 without question
prowlifik 4 years ago
The only way ManO'War could have lost was if he was struck by lightning!
HarbingerOfBattle 4 years ago
That or run 4 or 5 huge races in the same month. lol
nshtt 3 years ago
No, just lightning. (then he'd prob'ly get back up and win!) :)
HarbingerOfBattle 3 years ago
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lol, that or like if his leg snapped, but his cock would grow into a leg, then after the race, he would go get head from Chuck Norris, after he got some bitch pregnant
orangecountydrums44 3 years ago
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not to mention that he would grow another cock after he used his current one to cure his leg
orangecountydrums44 3 years ago
The Sir Barton/Man O' War was the first horserace to be completely filmed. Also I found footage of Sir Barton's Derby race at the Derby website.(thought you might want to know, carly)
HarbingerOfBattle 4 years ago
Again, nice video. I have been scrounging around for some decent pictures of him. Thanks for recognizing him. Well done.
CraftyTequila 4 years ago
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carlykaiser 4 years ago
OMG three days rest???!!! thats really sad... but i quess he was okay.... ya he wasn't a really good racehorse
bestluckbarbaro 4 years ago
geese i didnt know sir barton was a bad race horse, i thought it pretty cool that he only had a 4 day break, and then raced before the belmont people would never do that nowadays, maybe man o' war broke his spirit as seabiscuit did war admirals? haha
k7m4 4 years ago
carlykaiser, how do you get so much great action of horseracing. we should talk sometime, i am a very large horseracing fan. where do you get this stuff?? its amazing!
Hollisterhorse 5 years ago
Jewels of the Triple Crown, a DVD a friend sent me a long time ago. When the screen starts out black, then slowly you see the picture, is from the DVD
carlykaiser 5 years ago
I always enjoy watching the videos you post. Keep up the good work!
silvermoon2003 5 years ago