Back then it was exciting because the drivers raced to win there was no such thing as protecting your car for second place finish for points. It was either win or go home.
Back then it was exciting because the drivers raced to win there was no such thing as protecting your car for second place finish for points. It was either win or go home.
yeah, whats wrong with toyota's? the best vehicle i've ever owned. i will never buy an american made (designed) vehicle again, unless i win the lottery. then i would buy 5 corvettes. i love a chevy 350 4 bolt main with 375 heads.
i understand plating the motors to keep the cars out of the bleachers. but these piece of shit excuses that nascar has nowadays for cars is a joke. car of tomorrow? car of junk!
@bagruen when Earnhardt slid up it was a product of using the slingshot going into the corner. He was running faster going into the corner and slid up. Its the same thing that Pearson did when he passed Petty going into turn three of the 1976 Daytona 500, and Yarborough did when he tried to pass Petty at the end of the 1984 Firecracker 400. Did you also notice that Allison moved down on Earnhardt going into turn three? Neither driver did anything wrong, its just good racing.
Allison's one who wouldn't let the basher in #3 mess with him. You can see Earnhardt try to squeeze Bobby when he got beside him. Allison wouldn't give in so Earnhardt had to lift or crash. Others let Earnhardt get away with his bully style of driving, thus for being a basher, he got to be a "hero".
Back when racing was exciting and meant something. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Now it is nothing but a joke and boring as watching grass grow. Nascar is going down in flames and deservedly so.
1) WHOS cars are they? The MONEY from building the cars GOES TO the ecconomy of JAPAN.
2) The parts are MADE IN JAPAN, but assimbled here. so they say they are 'made in america'. HOW CAN..... ANY parts NOT made in america be AMERICAN MADE! (no brainer there).
Basically my friend you have been lied to, and you havn't questioned it... THINK hard before you respond.
And the money people here make for themselves stays with them. When Ford builds a car in Mexico, it also stays there. People like you are to busy defending things that don't exist.
@sir945 Never mind, I just scrolled up and saw a video in the Related Videos section, and the title was Bobby Allison hits Fence at Talladega 1987. LOL. FAIL!
The problem with NASCAR is that back in the 80's the cars that raced on Sunday were on the road on Monday like the Monte SS or Thunderbirds. That's what was cool about it, also the drivers decided stuff on the track unlike today.
There was nothing stock about thses cars either...but they DID use stock body panels, they LOOKED like stock cars, and at least the Chevrolets, Pontiacs and Fords were based on V8-powered, rear wheel drive cars.
And you're right...it was about RACING, not all the hype and crap that it's turned into...
your statement is true about the cars used to be at the track sunday, on the road monday..but not in the 80's. The stock part of a stock car slowly died away as far back as the 70's. It was however true in the 50's! :)
Here is the case, nothing is wrong with toyotas, just that the MYTH that they never break down, never need service and NO american car is as good . FIRSTLY and lastly , all cars are machines, and all cars break down. i know people who have had brand new honda, toyota, nissan, etc go back to the dealer and never run right, same with american cars. so i know that myth is just that. plus a die hard nascar fan remembering the heyday, would shudder at a camry running daytona.
Actually, for at least 10 years the V-Tec engines that Honda produced never had any breakdowns. I don't know if thats still true, but ZERO breakdowns is very VERY impressive.
i don't doubt the engines have long life and fewer breakdowns, but i see alot of v tecs in salvage yards and i don't know if they were blown or not. usually the car is not totaled.. it all depends on if you take care of your car.
fuckin a right! this shit makes em sick,,,and all the yuppies that drive that shit! especially the old timers.. fuck nascar david pearson must be pukin!
Are you seriously comparing a Nascar to a production car? Is that what Nascar fans have gone down to? You really think those cars represent anything on the street?
@EJ25RUN Dude you seriously need to take a step off your high horse and stop thinking eveyrone on youtube is stupid or out of touch. At least thats the vibe you put out. Of course not! I do remember the days when that was true and there were no toyotas running. but when they wen tot the cars you have now, the stock in stock car went out the window. anyone can toss a motor and tube chasis and slap a production name on the front.
I just find it ridiculous how many Nascar fans are so put off by foreign brands when every other form of American motorsport has embraced competition between brands between the U.S. Europe and Asia. Look at Grand Am, the ALMS, and Indy car. It basically stands to say that fans of road racing have more sense than Nascar fans as we like cars from where ever they come from. Its like Nascar fans are trying to build a box around themselves.
@redbuick Hey guy. You're right! These spec cars aren't worth watching. They all look the same no matter the make. At least these cars looked similar to what was on the street. It took real racers to race these cars. Single car teams and race cars that looked like the street cars. Those were the days!
@redbuick YOU BET MATE... NOW YOU SEE MILKA DUNO...YAMAMOTO ...AND ALL THOSE KIND OF BULLSHIT....TOOO...DISGUSTING....CHEERS FROM A BRAZILIAN FAN OF NASCAR...
NASCAR IS A U.S SPORT...AND THAT IT SHOULD BE FOREVER..FUCK TOYOTAS!! OR ELSE ..WHATEVER
@rmoracer34 they don't have the feeling of a true nascar race car, or maybe its the feeling of seeing then on the same track where buick oldsmobile, pontiac used to run with a whole history. if you like em for street cars whatever, fine. but i remember seeing regals and montes going at it.
@redbuick gasp, what's so wrong with a Toyota (Camry) in NASCAR. It's all but American. When NASCAR was hurting for another manufacturer, they stepped in. You should thank them.
Many do not even know that Buick Division of General Motors produced the Grand National on a platform other than on the Regal but there was a very unique Grand National built in late 1985 the 1986 LeSabre Grand National.
correct. i have a lesabre T-type, but my friend has a lesabre grand national down in fl.one of only a scant 120 or less built. They were built not with turbo's but to fill the need to maket he body style legal for nascar.
That was real racing... Talladega was never my personal favorite, but to have cars that LOOKED like real production cars runnin 205-210 mph, it was a thing of beauty and what superspeedway racing is all about...those days are gone forever...
i agree..... but one year later a car coming threw the tri-oval got loose them airboune and almost went in to the stands....... i like wacthin resticter plate racin,were esle can u see a 200mph parkin lot?
Great race! This also disproves all the knuckle-heads who say that Earnhardt would wreck you to win. Clean racing on both sides. I'm sure Dale would have much rather have had the high line because you could keep all that momentum up there. Check out the 1984 finish where he blew past Labonte on the high line.
Hey McCall -- Yeah ol' Dale would wreck a guy to win, and sometimes for other reasons, but not at the speeds they run at the restrictor plate tracks, never. That would just be insane, not to mention it would take out allot of other cars if he had wrecked Bobby. That was a great finish, and I agree that the Monte Carlo's were hot but I still love the smooth clean lines of the Buicks.
I sure wish we could see races like that today but I doubt that kind of racin' will ever happen again.
whatever happened to bob jenkins? didn't he used to do nascar on espn? i hate rusty and that goof-ball dougherty...they suck. come to think of it, espn sucks, they ruin everything
No, he is a professor at the University of Indiana and teaches what else?...broadcasting. As for Daugherty he says he is the "voice of the fans". Look I don't want a voice of the fans I want a great announcer show me something!!
Talladega sure looked different back then, walls all dirty, but I kinda liked it like that.
As for the #22, one time as I was leaving a Pocono race, I stopped at one of the gas stations out there by the entrance to I-80, and I swear to you, there was a red and white #22 Bobby Allison Miller Buick sitting in the lot there. No one around it. No trailer, just sitting there, must have been a show car. Of course I had to check it out real well before I jumped on I-80.
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Back then it was exciting because the drivers raced to win there was no such thing as protecting your car for second place finish for points. It was either win or go home.
sneezabonk 4 months ago
Back then it was exciting because the drivers raced to win there was no such thing as protecting your car for second place finish for points. It was either win or go home.
sneezabonk 4 months ago
I reckon Bobby Allison could see the AIR too ! Earnhardt said the only other driver that could see the air was Marlin.
Duke4Reuti 9 months ago
yeah, whats wrong with toyota's? the best vehicle i've ever owned. i will never buy an american made (designed) vehicle again, unless i win the lottery. then i would buy 5 corvettes. i love a chevy 350 4 bolt main with 375 heads.
theratfarmer 11 months ago
the pace car for this race was a red chevy s-10. my dad bought it, it had papers and everything.
tranurse 11 months ago
Haha smart ass, i guess i was not the only one who feels nascar is slipping.
redbuick 1 year ago
This is a lot like the last lap of the 1980 Talladega 500!
zuel660 1 year ago
i understand plating the motors to keep the cars out of the bleachers. but these piece of shit excuses that nascar has nowadays for cars is a joke. car of tomorrow? car of junk!
midatlanticcycle 1 year ago
remember when pontiac used to run? why have they allowed toyota? i have no idea....they need honda! hahahaha
spartanxxx17 1 year ago
does anyone notice how Dale always made his passes on the turns most of the time anyway
superkryp13 1 year ago
@bagruen when Earnhardt slid up it was a product of using the slingshot going into the corner. He was running faster going into the corner and slid up. Its the same thing that Pearson did when he passed Petty going into turn three of the 1976 Daytona 500, and Yarborough did when he tried to pass Petty at the end of the 1984 Firecracker 400. Did you also notice that Allison moved down on Earnhardt going into turn three? Neither driver did anything wrong, its just good racing.
AMIEVIL86 1 year ago
Allison's one who wouldn't let the basher in #3 mess with him. You can see Earnhardt try to squeeze Bobby when he got beside him. Allison wouldn't give in so Earnhardt had to lift or crash. Others let Earnhardt get away with his bully style of driving, thus for being a basher, he got to be a "hero".
bagruen 1 year ago
Back when racing was exciting and meant something. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Now it is nothing but a joke and boring as watching grass grow. Nascar is going down in flames and deservedly so.
LT1HILLINGHOE 1 year ago
the cup series is hardley worth watchin anymore truck arca and nationwide is where its at
copedipper667 1 year ago
@copedipper667 are you crazy nationwide is even more boring. plus this season has been really exciting.
EarnhardtsYear08 1 year ago
Wonder if there is a way to re-introduce "STOCK" Car racing? Add a fuel cell, roll bar, 4 point and RACE... Oh wait its a "dirt track", lol...
jwdundon 2 years ago
@jwdundon actually stock car racing would be a drag. Nobody would want to watch a toyota camry going 110 mph around daytona
g0ing2n0where 1 year ago 2
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I LOVE nascar, so don't tkae this wrong, BUT it needs to be boycotted TILL THEY BAN the imports!
AMERICAN CARS ONLY RUN ON NASCAR TRACKS!
jwdundon 2 years ago
you do realize the Toyota's on the track are made in America dont you?????
Seriously thats some ignorant thinking.
There are many other reasons Nascar sucks these days.
battalionmedia 2 years ago
your a dork heres why:
1) WHOS cars are they? The MONEY from building the cars GOES TO the ecconomy of JAPAN.
2) The parts are MADE IN JAPAN, but assimbled here. so they say they are 'made in america'. HOW CAN..... ANY parts NOT made in america be AMERICAN MADE! (no brainer there).
Basically my friend you have been lied to, and you havn't questioned it... THINK hard before you respond.
jwdundon 2 years ago
you are so right
bigmac2400 2 years ago
@jwdundon
And the money people here make for themselves stays with them. When Ford builds a car in Mexico, it also stays there. People like you are to busy defending things that don't exist.
EJ25RUN 1 year ago
nascar sucks because rule book is 1 foot think
camaro4542u 2 years ago 2
lol, faggot.
33skoalbandit 2 years ago
I hate you buddy...You took my screen name hahah.
starsandbarsDixie 2 years ago
ok how bout u boycot all the forien foods u eat too see how long u last cars are cars toyota is not wining what do u care
camaro4542u 2 years ago
in 86 bobby wins the race then in 87 he takes out the fence and then the plate is introduced
sir945 2 years ago
@sir945 No, that was 88 when he took out the fence.
DFDSFUEIFH 1 year ago
@sir945 Never mind, I just scrolled up and saw a video in the Related Videos section, and the title was Bobby Allison hits Fence at Talladega 1987. LOL. FAIL!
DFDSFUEIFH 1 year ago
@DFDSFUEIFH no Bobby Allison hit the fence in 1989 10 years before Edwards did
solidsnake1934 1 year ago
@solidsnake1934 Yeah, it was in 89, and it was 20 YEARS BEFORE!
DFDSFUEIFH 1 year ago
@DFDSFUEIFH no it was in '87 when allison hit the fence and it was 22 YEARS BEFORE EDWARDS! LOL DOESNT ANYBODY KNOW THIS??????
ZUFALL2938 1 year ago
@ZUFALL2938 I KNOW! READ MY OTHER reply to sir945!
DFDSFUEIFH 1 year ago
The problem with NASCAR is that back in the 80's the cars that raced on Sunday were on the road on Monday like the Monte SS or Thunderbirds. That's what was cool about it, also the drivers decided stuff on the track unlike today.
lcd2426 2 years ago 4
yup, theres nothing "stock" about the cars that race in the National Association of STOCK Car Auto Racing anymore....
xxHockeyGuy91xx 2 years ago
There was nothing stock about thses cars either...but they DID use stock body panels, they LOOKED like stock cars, and at least the Chevrolets, Pontiacs and Fords were based on V8-powered, rear wheel drive cars.
And you're right...it was about RACING, not all the hype and crap that it's turned into...
BSNFabricating 2 years ago
There are no Fords, Chevrolets or Dodges anymore. They are all COT cars, identical except fot the grill opening and the head ans tail light decals!
Longlakedreaming 2 years ago
your statement is true about the cars used to be at the track sunday, on the road monday..but not in the 80's. The stock part of a stock car slowly died away as far back as the 70's. It was however true in the 50's! :)
doctornoise 2 years ago
buick vs chevy. now you see dam toyotas running at taladega. disgusting.
redbuick 2 years ago 46
Whats wrong with Toyotas? Just as many of their cars are built in the U.S. if not more than Ford or Chevrolet.
RyanXWing 2 years ago
Here is the case, nothing is wrong with toyotas, just that the MYTH that they never break down, never need service and NO american car is as good . FIRSTLY and lastly , all cars are machines, and all cars break down. i know people who have had brand new honda, toyota, nissan, etc go back to the dealer and never run right, same with american cars. so i know that myth is just that. plus a die hard nascar fan remembering the heyday, would shudder at a camry running daytona.
redbuick 2 years ago 2
Actually, for at least 10 years the V-Tec engines that Honda produced never had any breakdowns. I don't know if thats still true, but ZERO breakdowns is very VERY impressive.
RyanXWing 2 years ago
i don't doubt the engines have long life and fewer breakdowns, but i see alot of v tecs in salvage yards and i don't know if they were blown or not. usually the car is not totaled.. it all depends on if you take care of your car.
redbuick 2 years ago
I'm running a '93 corolla. It's worth more than my mom's '01 taurus which can't stop breaking down. But Camrys in the sport are still weird.
spinpsychle 2 years ago
fuckin a right! this shit makes em sick,,,and all the yuppies that drive that shit! especially the old timers.. fuck nascar david pearson must be pukin!
hayseed6969 2 years ago
@redbuick You got that right, my Daddy landed at Iwo Jima, nuff said!
Caterpillarjon 1 year ago
@redbuick Yes, & an Oldsmobile in 3rd! Ahhh, the good ol' days!
zuel660 1 year ago
@redbuick
Go Toyota
EJ25RUN 1 year ago
@EJ25RUN yeah they go but i know a few that don't stop turn or start. keep that myth alive. not.
redbuick 1 year ago
@redbuick
Are you seriously comparing a Nascar to a production car? Is that what Nascar fans have gone down to? You really think those cars represent anything on the street?
EJ25RUN 1 year ago
@EJ25RUN Dude you seriously need to take a step off your high horse and stop thinking eveyrone on youtube is stupid or out of touch. At least thats the vibe you put out. Of course not! I do remember the days when that was true and there were no toyotas running. but when they wen tot the cars you have now, the stock in stock car went out the window. anyone can toss a motor and tube chasis and slap a production name on the front.
redbuick 1 year ago
@redbuick
I just find it ridiculous how many Nascar fans are so put off by foreign brands when every other form of American motorsport has embraced competition between brands between the U.S. Europe and Asia. Look at Grand Am, the ALMS, and Indy car. It basically stands to say that fans of road racing have more sense than Nascar fans as we like cars from where ever they come from. Its like Nascar fans are trying to build a box around themselves.
EJ25RUN 1 year ago
@redbuick Hey guy. You're right! These spec cars aren't worth watching. They all look the same no matter the make. At least these cars looked similar to what was on the street. It took real racers to race these cars. Single car teams and race cars that looked like the street cars. Those were the days!
ncmike213 1 year ago
@redbuick YOU BET MATE... NOW YOU SEE MILKA DUNO...YAMAMOTO ...AND ALL THOSE KIND OF BULLSHIT....TOOO...DISGUSTING....CHEERS FROM A BRAZILIAN FAN OF NASCAR...
NASCAR IS A U.S SPORT...AND THAT IT SHOULD BE FOREVER..FUCK TOYOTAS!! OR ELSE ..WHATEVER
rdtli 1 year ago
@redbuick It's blasphemy.
carsismeZ06 1 year ago
@redbuick Whats wrong with Toyota's?
rmoracer34 11 months ago
@rmoracer34 they don't have the feeling of a true nascar race car, or maybe its the feeling of seeing then on the same track where buick oldsmobile, pontiac used to run with a whole history. if you like em for street cars whatever, fine. but i remember seeing regals and montes going at it.
redbuick 10 months ago
@redbuick gasp, what's so wrong with a Toyota (Camry) in NASCAR. It's all but American. When NASCAR was hurting for another manufacturer, they stepped in. You should thank them.
DJprofessork72 5 months ago
@DJprofessork72 never.
redbuick 3 months ago
this is classic racing, sideways and talladega...awesome stuff
DaleJr88FanAMP 2 years ago 2
another good video thanks that was a good race right to the end i seen it with my Dad when he was still with us
outlaw662sr 2 years ago 2
Many do not even know that Buick Division of General Motors produced the Grand National on a platform other than on the Regal but there was a very unique Grand National built in late 1985 the 1986 LeSabre Grand National.
jdhaynes17 3 years ago
correct. i have a lesabre T-type, but my friend has a lesabre grand national down in fl.one of only a scant 120 or less built. They were built not with turbo's but to fill the need to maket he body style legal for nascar.
redbuick 2 years ago
Todays restrictor plate racing just isn't the same.
kso374 3 years ago
todays racing isnt the same.
tubeyou443 3 years ago 2
That was real racing... Talladega was never my personal favorite, but to have cars that LOOKED like real production cars runnin 205-210 mph, it was a thing of beauty and what superspeedway racing is all about...those days are gone forever...
BSNFabricating 3 years ago 4
i agree..... but one year later a car coming threw the tri-oval got loose them airboune and almost went in to the stands....... i like wacthin resticter plate racin,were esle can u see a 200mph parkin lot?
bigjim247365 3 years ago
it's disgusting how the frances and all of the yuppies ruined this sport!! to hell with racing today i quit watchin it! it sucks
hayseed6969 3 years ago
I love the old cars they look so much faster than COT
17roush99 3 years ago
Great race! This also disproves all the knuckle-heads who say that Earnhardt would wreck you to win. Clean racing on both sides. I'm sure Dale would have much rather have had the high line because you could keep all that momentum up there. Check out the 1984 finish where he blew past Labonte on the high line.
McCall72 3 years ago
Hey McCall -- Yeah ol' Dale would wreck a guy to win, and sometimes for other reasons, but not at the speeds they run at the restrictor plate tracks, never. That would just be insane, not to mention it would take out allot of other cars if he had wrecked Bobby. That was a great finish, and I agree that the Monte Carlo's were hot but I still love the smooth clean lines of the Buicks.
I sure wish we could see races like that today but I doubt that kind of racin' will ever happen again.
Fania54 3 years ago
yep, Dale respected Bobby very much.
Banger82 3 years ago
whatever happened to bob jenkins? didn't he used to do nascar on espn? i hate rusty and that goof-ball dougherty...they suck. come to think of it, espn sucks, they ruin everything
AbdullahTheNecro 4 years ago 15
he went to the SPeed Channel and i think is doing that highlights show
JBOreo 4 years ago
No, he is a professor at the University of Indiana and teaches what else?...broadcasting. As for Daugherty he says he is the "voice of the fans". Look I don't want a voice of the fans I want a great announcer show me something!!
vidEvWill 4 years ago
must have been recently. that was the last i heard about jenkins, him going to speed. im behind. lol
JBOreo 4 years ago
Yeah he taught at Indiana for a while and now he is teaching at a smaller school in Indiana now, Anderson University.
vidEvWill 3 years ago
Yeah!!! Darn right
ILikeCheeze24 3 years ago
he does the indy series for espn
patd0308 3 years ago
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Duke4Reuti 9 months ago
Without the restricter plate, the old days of the slingshot pass.
DC322 4 years ago
Bobby won in style with that Buick LeSabre
carguysn 4 years ago 2
Yeah, those were good looking cars.
Too bad they were only used for a couple years.
tommylord 3 years ago
none of the alabama gang was ever lucky it was pure talent
gwfranks 4 years ago
allison got lucky
Derrek730 4 years ago
Talladega sure looked different back then, walls all dirty, but I kinda liked it like that.
As for the #22, one time as I was leaving a Pocono race, I stopped at one of the gas stations out there by the entrance to I-80, and I swear to you, there was a red and white #22 Bobby Allison Miller Buick sitting in the lot there. No one around it. No trailer, just sitting there, must have been a show car. Of course I had to check it out real well before I jumped on I-80.
Fania54 4 years ago
Dale should have won that one!
bonds1970 4 years ago
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awsome held him off on the high side too lol.I never did like dale ever.
leehr777 4 years ago
Oh Yeah!!!
EnduroCrazedManiac 4 years ago
Agree 100 % with that.
Sunoco 4 years ago
The #22 Miller car was one of the coolest looking Cup cars ever!
Fania54 4 years ago
The #22 Miller Monte Carlo SS was smokin' hot. Never liked the Buick's though.
McCall72 3 years ago
Bobby's car is a buick La Sabre, until the new regal was ready for 88
jdhaynes17 3 years ago