Auto-Land Boeing 737-800

[Pilotpg]

this is all to do with your mcc course, to work as a team,

[chilechueco]

who's the boss?

[dfwsf3fo]

JS, U did a fantastic job man..

[bpalme]

Maybe not a slap but still rude.

[flyzapva]

What airline? Thomson?

[yuzbasivolkan86]

poor first officer slapped on his hand :)

[markus942]

I just love how the captain slaps his hand from the throttle!

[doughonea]

You know, I have watched this several times now. I saw the captain slide his hand under the FO's arm and lift it off of the throttles. No slap, not even particularly brusk. Seems like a very professional cockpit move to me.

[MrSaharamarocain1]

fuck you commandant tu n est qu un fils de pute impoli 0:06

[4crevis]

Like the way the Captain pushes the First Officers hand away... how rude!

[mraltay10]

@4crevis hahaha lol, Pilot thinks( with high voice): go away, hands off!!

[BaronBoy100]

There is nothing rude or disrespectful here. Many airlines SOP is for the Capt. to make the landing off an instrument approach. The FO flies the approach but the Capt. does the landing. I think this is an example of that. This was a CAT III auto-landing and the Capt. took over at the minimums. He disconnected the autopilot on the roll-out and you can see his thumb on the auto-throttle disconnect as he retards the throttle prior to reverse thrust being applied.

[hd5770Gamer]

0:02 DO NOT TOUCH MY THROTTLE!!

[infinitelimitation]

Professionalism > Kindness & being polite

[PiSkiS320]

Normally autolands are made by CM1 (as per Company or Manufacturers policy ), so I dont see the meaning of CM2 doing it, if by the end, this is gonna happend, and I would think an ''I have control'' could be more professional.

[Ymzson1]

embarrassing 

[santicapo10]

God, stop crying about him being rude, HE'S NOT.

What do you expect? Do you think he's gonna say "Please get your hand off the throttles so i can put mine in"?

There is no time for silly questions, if you noticed it didnt take long till they reached ground, so the quickest way to do it is just push FO's hand away, IT DOESNT MEAN HE'S RUDE FOR FUCK SAKE.

Now stop whining.

[howardflight09]

@applesweeter top priority for a pilot is to FLY THE PLANE!

[dodgingdaniel]

0:06 i got this

[stefgiorgio]

Lack of CRM from the Captain. Shame.

[appleglory]

@stefgiorgio Could possibly be SOPS, not necessarily poor CRM

[flyby457]

i bet he loves flying with this guy,what's that all about,seen nothing like it,EVER.

[escade2]

why does the captain knock the co's hand off??!! rude

[xxrailroadxx]

Sure that that was a CATIII landing? It is a little bit difficult to say, but you can't see the third button on the lower DU selector panel . Also this aircraft has old standby instruments and not ISFD (integrated standby flight display) which would be an indicator for the 3 autopilots. This 737 has only 2 as it looks like. Three autopilots are needed to follow the rwy centerline after touchdown. AP also disconnected at touchdown. Seems to be a CATII and not a CATIII. Or did they had an HGS?

[hyrrokinfamily]

That seemed to be a CAT III B autoland

[SenorSpode]

People should shut the fuck up. That nudge is very self-explanatory: it is an instantaneous, effective signal that the PIC has/is assuming control. Nothing wrong with it. I knew an instructor who carried a ruler with him; when a student pilot crammed the throttle(s), he'd frap their knuckles and say "Don't EVER do that again!".

[elescorpion29]

yoo maan this is my fucking airplane, fuck out of here

[Maloy7800]

The WORST landing video on YouTube. :-)

[Physicspilot]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...I bet if the captain wants to make an announcement,and the F.O happens to be holding the speaker, he'd slap him in the face just to take over LOL!!

[craigyrose13]

get the fu*k off my throttle lool! Dude that was rude

[thedetective22]

bwahahhaah don't touch ma wheel !!

mothafuckas

[andrusevich]

Пиздец автолангдинг, когда пилот берет управление в свои руки...

[philipepacheco]

CRM?? Who?

[h4rrycl4rk]

Hardly a slap was it?

[beergut111]

nice landing but it wasnt an autoland......autoland has auto-throttles....no need for these 2 to even touch them

[voldemort2123]

@beergut111 thrust levers won't retard themselves and go into rev mode

[beergut111]

@voldemort2123 i never said they reverse themselves.....you dont need reverse to land.

[voldemort2123]

@beergut111 In this case, reverse was used. The levers also won't retard themselves. Stop being an armchair pilot

[beergut111]

@voldemort2123 you dont understand much about this i can tell.....autothrottles have servo motors in them that actully move the throttles....on autoland, they go to idle without pilot input. Im not an armchair pilot, i flew L1011's with the first autoland technology.

if you drop your shit kid attitude id be glad to answer your questions, if not, quit wasting my time.

[alex054739]

0:04 "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY" lol

[yacinexm]

0:04 Ehhhm...

[alejopilot1]

this is a lack of CRM

[CMDRSweeper]

@alejopilot1 I have read a bit on cockpit CRM and I found this handslap to be rather strange.

From what I have read this would be a huge no no amongst instructors from what I have read so far, but I will have to check back on that.

[iryan74656]

I like the wheel sound of that plane when the plane touchdown.

[WOGI5M]

lol @ 0:04 haha

[0420]

very quiet ...



[Fsimfreak]

lol

[Krutzo11]

0:05 MY CONRTOLS

[jasoncape]

Rude captian....

[aviation143]

Hahah Rude Pilot -,-! :P

[NicksPropriety]

0:06 lol

[okturus]

Bitch! Get yo hands off my controls! This is ma plane, check yoself before you break yoself!!

[Ladiesman217n]

i dont think there was anything rude here however there should have been a positive change of controls a verbal notification CAPTAIN: "My controls" FIRST OFFICER "your controls" CAPTAIN "My controls" that is basic fundamentals of airmanship also the captain is PIC he can take control at anytime if he feels a situation is critical that he must take full control right away to maintain the safety of the aircraft. the gesture from the captain was not rude in any way he simply moved the f/os hand

[toshiba6079]

good les mecs!!!

[majorCougar109]

é meu velho,são duas "birinbelas" ( fitas amarelas ) a mais .

o copila deveria ter 3 né ...? 2 é tenso,mais é isso ae...

[RaphaelHalmeida]

o "chega pra lá" do cmte no co-piloto nos 0:04 foi teeeeeeeenso

[MercedesKawasaki]

is it just me or the fact that the captain slapped the F/O was uneeded? Honestly, in my opinion that was something WRONG and IMPROFESSIONAL to do , I think that perhaps someone should remind him that flying airliners is a work in group and I mean coordinated work in group. I'd fire him, he doesn't know how to be a captain!

[DHMaNiAc770]

@MercedesKawasaki you are absolutely right.This captain was very rude and thinks the plane is his game.

[voldemort2123]

@DHMaNiAc770 it is his "game" as it were

[DHMaNiAc770]

@voldemort2123 i cant find my comment so i dont remember what i posted XD

[drumdude46]

called "PIC" folks. the captain must have, and fully within company procedures mandates, stipulated in the Pre-Landing Briefing, that HE, would be landing the aircraft. the FO, should and would, FULLY understand this, and what we see here,  is really "nothing at all'. no foul or rude action took place, whatsover. it is just a very firm, unquestioned and necessary "Immediate" transfer of control, at the critical moment, at minimums. that "slap' was just a "My Airplane", let go NOW!

[SHOOTINGST4Rx]

Are this pilots working for Ryanair? Could be...

[Keighan201]

captain real sickening

[pirculator]

Its clear who is the Boss. 0:06

[MrDucati1198s]

@pirculator .  Its one of those things that a fuckwit like you will never experience, thank christ. Sick of playing bully in other places? Perhaps one day if your lucky cunt you might even get to make a flight in a real plane, but it will definately be in coach, where cunts like you deserve to sit.

[FrancoCuriel]

Don't touch my throttles!!!!

[unabuna813]

@anurek123 You are a bit mistaken. At minimums the pilot does not have a choice as to go around or land. If there is no visual of the runway at minimums the pilot is REQUIRED to go around.

[pkotowski]

Guys, I know very little about aviation, but I am fascinated by it. So bear with me. I was on an American flight from MIA to ORD in March of 2007. Very foggy at ORD. I Think the pilot said it was a Category III B 6? Also, I do remember the pilot saying there was a 1 in 3 or maybe 1 in 4 chance of a, "low altitude mis-approach." What is that? And is one category more drastic or risky than the other? This was the 1st and only "autolanding" experience Ive had in seven years of air travel.

[intoxicologist]

@pkotowski a cat 3b is an autoland where the pilot switches off the autopliot and takes control of the aircraft when at taxi speed.  the categories will determine your missed approach altitude. a cat 3 b has a very low DA (decision altitude) so a low altitude mis approach will be under 50 or 60 feet when autolanding a cat 3b.

no category is decided because it is "more risky" all categories are decided upon because they are the least risky. cat 3b carries the least risk given the conditions.

[intoxicologist]

@pkotowski however you must understand that pilots of commercial jets dont pick and choose a landing category. they fly an instrument flight rules ( IFR) approach at all times. They fly the conditions down to the DA and then they land or execute a missed approach. its not like the pilot says "lets fly a cat 3b today". It is way more complicated than that. The conditions will determine the final category of landing but the pilots will never be out of IFR.

[Jorgeemd]

@intoxicologist Not true at all, a pilot is in all his freedom to choose VFR rules if conditions and airspace permit. On a clear day it is common to see pilots doing VFR approach that will save them time rather than doing the whole procedure. Again as I said, it depends on the circumstances.

[intoxicologist]

@Jorgeemd which bit is not true ? i did not say a pilot cannot choose VFR? i said they fly IFR down to the DA. if VFR presents itself before that point then great .... but the pilot would not cancel the IFR flight plan, thus the entire approach would be governed By ATC and the STAR chart even though the pilot was happy to continue VFR. the entire flight and landing is considered IFR. are you talking about commercial or ppl pilots?

[intoxicologist]

@pkotowski the pilot said chance of "low altitude missed approach" because normally a missed approach would be executed before the main wheels touch the runway or perhaps 200 feet above the runway. with a cat3b it is likely that if a pilot is not happy with the position of the aircraft at DA it means that the mains wheels will touch something before he gets a chance to be airborne again. in this case he may have been warning that main wheel touch does not mean touchdown. hope that helps

[F1crazyfan]

0:05 my throttle!!!!

[anurek123]

okay what are minimums.  my logic tells me point of no return from landing?? after minumums you have to land??

[pacificflier]

@anurek123 In actual fact, its quite the opposite! Broadly, if by minimums, you do not have a visual reference with the runway, you are required to 'go-around'.

[jpilot101]

@anurek123 In the interest of safety you can go around whenever it is possible to do so however minimums is a point where the captain makes the decision whether to land or go around.

[DJaugissss]

On 0:03 it's like: Gimme that!

[madzane94]

0:07 : Captn: Move u self, i'm in control >=D

Lol Sigh.

If i was first officer i'd punch him right after we land xD

[skynut831]

no time for tea and crumpets! MY AIRPLANE ! 

[madzane94]

@skynut831 LOL

[Flyglobespan93]

Captain was like "My turn with throttles you bastard!" LOL RUDE!

[747forever]

@Flyglobespan93 hahaha :)

[5IrFaN5]

@Flyglobespan93 hahahhaahahahahhaha

[citabriand]

Actually, I don't think it is rude at all, only SOP. At my current and previous company CAT II and CAT III's are done this way including autolands. You only have about 6-7 seconds from minimums on a CAT III Autoland in a 737NG before the plane lands. So, the whole "polite" - "your airplane, my airplane, you have the airplane" will be way too slow. The only job of the FO is to go around. The only job of the captain to look for runway, "slap the FO", then stop the plane. Hope this helps.

[mijobeka]

@citabriand Thanks so much for pointing this out to everyone, I think people should read this before anything!!

[Vorox144]

@mijobeka I thought there are no minimums in cat III and Cat II

[lveaasaez]

@citabriand Absolutely agree. It´s all about efficiency and flight safety. No time to be polite. That can take place once the aircraft is securely parked at the gate. But safety comes always first.

[G1azier]

@citabriand This is said aloud not for politeness, but for the flight voice recorder, so in the case of a crash investigators knew who made the CFIT.

Hope their company never finds this video ;).

[bulkocrew]

haha - the captain was abit rude to the co-pilot at 0:06 wasnt he - haha pmsl - how rude!

[giolonini]

OMG!!! What do you call a Auto-Land? I only see that the speed controls is armed and there is no approuch light burning!

[Knife0994]

@giolonini Look at the CMD A and B then you see its fully automatic

[OnTheBoulevard10]

Work on transfer of control, Captain!

[RodCmte]

Sometimes it is necessary... Period!

[bvandermuss]

capt. looked abit mean with the hand slap

[edgar5001]

usually control of the aircraft is changed between pilot and co-pilot by the PIC saying "My Flight Controls" or "Your Flight Controls" and the other person repeats it...he probably did say it you just couldn't hear it. - Captain gets to land the plane....thats the benefit of being Captain..the FO will get his chance

[mijobeka]

Lol u lot don't realise I was sitting there, but listen to the ambient noise, they (and i) had headsets on, noo need to be shouting it. They did and i know both the capt. and Fo - capt is fo's uncle. :)

[riofebrian70]

the capt shld say ' i have control' & the co. pilot shld let go the control to the capt.

[KimmurielBaenre]

The hand slap was a bit...odd.

[Crommy5]

@KimmurielBaenre, you consider that a slap? My dad will show you what a slap is, trust me!

[aky19832001]

@Crommy5 there is nothing like the slap of a loving father to set a young boy down the straight path. He would always pimp slap me and say " son, god damn it think before you do shit ok"

[issueagent]

0:06 RUDE MUCH!

[nieveld42]

lol :P don't think in the SOP's of them stays a line:

"handing over the controls will be indicated by pushing away the hand of the Pilot Flying from the throttle"

lol :P

[jmr604]

Is that how this company trains their pilots to hand over control of the aircraft? Just push someone's hand out of the way? Seems odd and a bit rude.

[madzane94]

@jmr604 LOL yeea... wtf was that <,<

[TheWrestlingrobot]

@jmr604 It was on auto-land the pilots don't have time to be saying ''my command'' etc... Imagine how much time they would lose saying that in case of a go-around.

[VIP100RoyalProdz]

@jmr604 Ask Politely While You Plunge Into Another Plane On The RWY And Not Go Around

[kenadamsusa]

@jmr604

This is standard operating procedure at most airlines for autolandings. Steril cockpit, copilot at the controls ready to execute a missed approach at any sign of things not going according to plan, captain monitoring instruments and then looking for runway: at minimums captain makes decision to land and takes over by moving the copilot's hand off the throttles - alternatively,

he calls for a go-around to be performed by the copilot.

[barmer479]

capt very rude to co , no need to slap the hand