SWAG Off Road Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 1.75" Dies

[kc7fys]

If this device does the job--however marginally--to suit the casual weekender, then what harm is in that? I know labor standards, environmental standards, etc. are an issue with the Chinese manufacturers. Besides that, I will be buying one myself to bend tubing for magnetic loop antennas.

[pueyit]

very good

[helmss8]

What shaft sizes do these rollers use. I built my own machine and use .75 shafts. My drive axle is keyed along with my drive die. I use 4 by 4 rollers now but need some round and square dies.

[jessestylex]

i'd like to have a set of the .500 but they cost more than the Tuber Roller it's self.

[wwwracingpartsro]

can you please tell me the cost for the 28mm die on a 2.2 center line radius, so the piece should have lets say 125mm diameter. thanks, mac

[Swagoffroad]

@wwwracingpartsro

Send me a print of what you are after and I will quote it out for you.

Thanks Troy

[david27g1]

how much will cost a 2 in. by 7" radius die

[travisg130]

SwagOffroad makes the most sense I've seen ever. Come to SMORR some time.

[Swagoffroad]

We sell 16 different sizes of dies, this includes 5 different sizes of square dies. Check out the website for additional information.

Thanks Troy

[mustangjoe88]

Hey since you say you machine those how much would you charge to make a set of dyes where I could roll square tube? Please let me know if this is something you are interested in

[TETOCHIHUAS]

GOOD VIDEO, IM LOOKING TO MAKE SOME RINGS10'' DIAMETER MADE OF 1/2 ROUND BAR, DO YOU THING THAT ROLLER WILL HELP ME DO IT? ANY ADVISE WILL HELP... TKU.

[Swagoffroad]

Thanks for the compliments, 2" x 4" is pushing it, I doubt you could roll that by hand.

Troy

[PatrickONB]

This is very cool! I think you've got a good thing going here for us small home fab guys. I'm building a 71 Vega this year, and will be ordering a set from you. And yes, a set of square dies would be appreciated as well, as those will work good for setting up the main frame tubes. 2" x 4" square tube BTW.

[Swagoffroad]

Jacob.

I don't . As for square dies we well .50" 1.0" 1.5" and 2.0".

We are always open to making additional die sizes if there is enough demand.

Troy

[jacobneider]

Do you have any Square tube dies? I need to bend 1.75" square tubing

Jacob

[moto9ll]

just drill a 1/4 hole clear through the shaft then put a grade 5 or 8 bolt through it and call it a day...you could even use a roll pin if you wanted...

[rustyATV]

When it comes to set screws more is not better. A set screw is for applying a small force to a hub so that friction is generated between the bore and the shaft. With unopposed set screws the contact area is large, providing a large gripping force that doesnt mar the surface. By adding an opposing set screw you reduce the grip area to just that of the set screws, generating a fraction of the gripping force no matter how much you tighten. The flats are a crutch and expense for a poor design choice

[Swagoffroad]

@rustyATV

So you have personally used the HF tubing roller, if so then you know that 3 machined flats that are on the HF tubing roller dies are insufficient, when rolling larger dia tubing. By adding additional set crews you are able to apply additional force to the drive axle and distribute the force over a larger area thus not stripping out the set screws and or destroying the drive axle. Ideally a key way is used, however I am not designing a tubing roller I am producing dies.

[rustyATV]

No, I have not used the HF Tubing roller. However I have designed a number of devices using setscrews for power transmission or grip. Some times flats are used to give a larger surface for the setscrew to contact to keep it from marring the shaft, however that is not the primary mechanism; its the friction between the bore and the shaft from tightening the setscrew/s. By adding setscrews in opposition, the pressure between the bore and shaft are relieved. Do you have a Machinery's Handbook?

[Swagoffroad]

@rustyATV

I do,

In addition to that the set screws are only as good as the drive axle they attach too. Since the HF drive axle is one notch above warm butter the machined flats quickly wear out and round off. Tell you what when you order my upgraded drive drive axle out of 4130 cromoly you can only run 3 set screws if you wish too.....deal.

[rustyATV]

So its more likely that the increased durability you found was due to the material change rather than that of the design. You might consider consulting the Mach. Handbook for setscrew design; It could save you the unnecessary cost of machining extra holes and flats. And if you didnt have to rely on material you could find further savings there

I'm actually more interested in manual ratcheting style tube bender; it seems more suited for the type of building I want to do, they're just expensive

[Swagoffroad]

@rustyATV

IMO there is only one tubing bender that is under $500 and worth a dam. That is JMR head over to Pirate4x4 in the forum tool section they are running a sale this month on the JMR tubing bender.

Enjoy.

[theutilizer]

Hey Swag, any chance these will fit the late '80's version of the Shopoutfitters ring roller? 

[Swagoffroad]

@theutilizer

I doubt it, however I have never measured a Shopoutfitters ring roller. Send me a few critical dimensions and lets see if my dies will fit your roller.

Troy

[SWD2263]

beautiful dies and shaft, but after trying a few of the HF items, they are such low quality and complete junk, that it is a waste of time to even walk into their store. Most of the people that buy that stuff don't really use it, that's why they are accepting of the low quality

[hangoutsumtime]

i admire your dedication towards the home fabricators

[2OQP]

Here is the story then...HunterCo1 is a salesman of high-end products. His customers often choose the lower quality/price products and is globally frustrated about the low end manufacturers. So in order to support the values of a high-end product salesman, he proposes Swagoffroad to not support the low-end products and market his nicely made products to high-end bender owners. The very customers he is trying to sell to, with higher-end products. He is just losing his temper over it. LOL

[eddiequest4]

SHEESH ! HunterCO1 seems to have some anger management issues. Thanks for the video. I'll be ordering soon. ;-)

[infospill]

good work man... don't hate the player! hate the game ....

[asasial1977]

hey dude to hell with hunterco1 he hasn't uploaded a single thing he has done him self. doesn't know how to do anything but steal videos. your parts look good. wouldn't mind having a set myself don't mind the idiots who sit on the couch wishing they knew how to make something there selves. your doin one hell of a job. keep it up.

[HunterCO1]

@asasial1977 jackass I have done more than you could ever imagine that being said reading comprehension is fundamental. I never said his dies are not badass just why a person would make such a thing for a pos harbour freight bender!

[HunterCO1]

No offense but WTF are you thinking??? Your dies are very nice and apear to be high quality but what on gods earth makes you think some idiot who bought harbor freight shit is going to spend the money on high qaulity dies??

For christ sake your dies are worth ten times as much as the pos HF bender. That would be like snap on trying to sell sockets to go with a HF ratchet!! Seriousley WTF are you thinking??

[Swagoffroad]

@HunterCO1

When you want to place an order let me know. The cost of the HF tubing roller does not dictate the cost of manufacturing and machening the dies. If you need to roll some tubing check out Pro Tools or Eastwood they sell a very simular tubing roller, however their dies cost $300+.

Troy

[HunterCO1]

@Swagoffroad I understand that but why the fuck would I spend the cost of your dies for a pos HF bender that wont last a week at best. Kind of silly dont ya think ???

[Swagoffroad]

@HunterCO1

I have rolled ~ 140 feet of 1.75' .120 wall DOM through this bender over the past year.

I know HF sell mostly junk, however I would place this tool in their top 10 items sold at the store.

Silly is paying top dollar for Pro Tools or East Wood, then forking out $300 for a set of dies.

[HunterCO1]

@Swagoffroad wow you rolled 140 feet holy shit what can I say except your still an idiot for making dies for a HF bender. Just a hint real benders do tens of thousands of feet with out a hitch. Also I doubt the dipshits that buy HF shit are gong to pay you twice what they paid for the POS tool they just bought.....think about it.

[Swagoffroad]

@HunterCO1

Your not comparing apples to apples, when you speak of "real bender" This is not a production piece of equipment. It is suited for the home fabricator. I guess I will have to let orders for these dies speak for them self.

Troy

[asasial1977]

@HunterCO1 hey dude to hell with hunterco1 he hasn't uploaded a single thing he has done him self. doesn't know how to do anything but steal videos. your parts look good. wouldn't mind having a set myself don't mind the idiots who sit on the couch wishing they knew how to make something there selves. your doin one hell of a job. keep it up.

[leloodallasmultipass]

@HunterCO1 wow, man. less meth might work better for you. let the man do his business how he and his customers want. I buy plenty of HF stuff and just mod it to my needs. no one ever says HF is good. this kind of thing would be exactly what I would be looking for because I don't run a friggin speed shop.

you sound like you're discussing the death penalty...

[Duckyistrippin]

@HunterCO1 dude, you are a fucking moron. This is a LARGE RADIUS BENDER! This is exactly how "real benders" work. This is not a mandrel type machine, like a jd3. this is a perfect tool for those that need this style of bend. like people who make handrails, custom stair cases or any other large radius bend. you are a fucking moron!!

[HunterCO1]

@Duckyistrippin no shit this is how real benders work? how the fuck else could they work? Its not about how it works dipshit its the fact its harbor freight shit. Now who's the fucking moron jackass!

[Duckyistrippin]

@HunterCO1 you are still the moron. HF sells shit made in china. so does damn near every other company on the planet. HF is NOT a manufacture. they simply by import and sell. to say everything there has no worth is simply ignorant. You DO NOT NEED THE BEST TOOLS to get the job done. Half of Tatum Sand cars is HF tools bits and pieces. you going to say the largest sand car company is a bunch of morons too? you are just a hater with no skill. you think the tool makes the job, not the fabricator.

[HunterCO1]

@Duckyistrippin wrong again dipshit qaulity tools make a difference when you do it for a living as I do. I don't buy china shit tools all my point was is the guy makes badass dies for a pile of shit bender. You have no idea wtf your talking about if you think qaulity tools don't matter.

[ntprofile]

Nice dies.

Sample dies, now thats funny.

[Swagoffroad]

I'm sorry but anyone who starts off a sentence with the work "HEY", and is asking for something for free.......I'm going to have to pass.

[Fuzzdobberz]

It's ok I am from the south as our technical support is in Dillon South Carolina. I am not looking for free dies by all means, I don't even own the bender. I simply was trying to be of a service to you as we get thousands of calls a day and there are a few looking for larger dies on this bender in which we do not carry. I hope you will understand that I can not recommend this website to our consumers.

[Fuzzdobberz]

Hey, I am with HFT Technical support. With your permission I would like to have a direct contact with you as well as a sample of your dies to see if they will work with our bender. I would like to try them myself as I am interested to see if they work for our tool.