There things in red meat that you can not get from other foods. Also, there have been studies that show that the brain needs a certain amount of cholesteral.
So it seems if you are 30-34 bmi, with a gut, you might be insulin resistant, and you should really study Atkins for 8 weeks, and do the diet for a year. Also follow the water advice in case the upcoming study is right about the explanation for differences being the extra water. That's what it "seems" to be saying.
I wish I had eaten low-carb long ago because, even anecdotally, I do have more energy. I was a good athlete but would have liked the extra energy to use. Nice study. I liked the part showing the effectiveness of Atkins on insulin resistant folks. I also liked how Atkins lowered all numbers for common risk measures for heart disease... even though the control group couldn't hold to 15% carbs. It appears to be effective even if it isn't followed exactly... especially if you are insulin resistant.
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I am interested in the formula he gave to see if you have insulin sensitivity. Is is triglycerides divided by HDL with a value of equal or more than 3?
At 20:00 Gardner says "if all groups had really cut back that many calories they would have all lost 40 lbs." He attributes the discrepancy in weight loss to false reporting of calories consumed. However, this would require consistent false reporting in some groups but not others.
A better conclusion is that the calories burned in all 4 groups was not the same. The Atkins group had relatively more energy available while the other 3 groups had relatively less energy.
None of that matters because it doesn't work like that. The cause of obesity is not overeating. The cause of weight loss is not undereating. Obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation, not a disorder of overeating. So what controls fat accumulation?
@arrogantcoconut its not the scientists fault dude, its the freaking government. Only certain information is approved by the fucking FDA and a lot of it is old and is bull shit by now.
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I ate everything I could get my hands on as a kid and you know what? I was thin as a rail and in tremendous shape. I use to bike around 11 miles a week as a kid. Carbs are not the problem if you're burning it off exercising.
@Antiks72 I used to know a kid who played basketball all the time when he was a kid. He grew up to be 6'5". If I only would have played more basketball when I was a kid, I'd be taller. It's not hormones that make you grow it's basketball.
@Antiks72 No, I just showed you how absurd your thinking is. You're assuming correlation = causation. Lots of things changed since you were a kid. Hormones, diet, stress, etc. Maybe you were more active because you were thinner, not the other way around? Did you ever consider that?
@SizzlechestXXX I understand you're a fat ass who doesn't want to exercise, and that's perfectly clear from where I'm sitting. Long distance runners, swimmers, and other athletes eat lots of carbs and are thin. Are they eating sugar? No, but they are eating things like pasta. So get off your ass and hit the gym.
@Antiks72 Maybe you should try an exercise that's really difficult for you. Like picking up a book. If your brain were a muscle, wait...that sounds about right. Nuff said.
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Between two sprinters, for equal strength, the lightest of the two will tend to be faster. He's not lighter because he's faster, he's faster because he's lighter. Basic physics.
Between two cars, for equal engine power, the lightest of the two will tend to be faster. It's not lighter because it's faster, it's faster because it's lighter. Basic physics.
"Long distance runners, swimmers, and other athletes eat lots of carbs and are thin."
Ever see a fat sprinter? Maybe it's because a fat sprinter has no chance to beat a lean sprinter. How many Olympic disciplines do you know where being fat is a competitive advantage? You believe that exercise makes people lean. In other words, you believe people are lean because they are athletes. But the reality is that people are athletes because they are lean.
@JackFook I disagree. You can be an athlete and not look lean and you can be a non athlete and look lean by genetics. It's a lot about genetics. Any one who is not living a sedentary lifestyle is an athlete. Do you lift weights atleast 3 days a week? Yes? Then your not sedentary. Are you lean while you do this? No? Then your still an athlete reguardless.of how you look. I've seen fat athletes and I've seen skinny and muscular, even in the same sport. Athletes come in different shapes and sizes.
"You can be an athlete and not look lean and you can be a non athlete and look lean by genetics."
That's correct. But the question wasn't about athletes, but about lean vs fat. A lean sprinter will tend to be faster than a fat sprinter. Both are athletes, but the leaner of the two tends to win more competitions by virtue of being leaner, not by virtue of being an athlete.
Consider hockey recruiting at a young age. The 10 year old is stronger, faster, smarter than the 9 year old. So when we select who plays, we select the 10 year old. The same is true with fat vs lean. The leaner will be faster, therefore he will be selected for the sprint team. If he's selected, he will get more practice and eventually become an athlete. The fat kid will not be selected, will not get any practice, will not become an athlete.
So what's the cause and what's the effect? Is obesity caused by sedentary behavior? In our fat vs lean sprinters, obesity is the cause (does not get selected for the sprint team), sedentary behavior is the effect (gets no practice on the track).
The same is true for strength competition. The stronger gets selected for the team, the weaker doesn't. The cause is greater strength, the effect is more practice.
Strength is primarily a function of muscle mass, which is primarily a function of hormones, namely testosterone. The more T, the greater the muscle mass. We could say that the best athletes are those with the most T.
If T is the primary factor for strength, what's the primary factor for obesity? It's a hormone: Insulin. Just like T and strength, the more insulin the more obesity. Just like T determines if we get selected for the team because of our strength, insulin determines if we get selected for the sprint team because of our leanness and obesity.
Growth hormone during child growth determines final adult height. The more GH, the taller we get. There's a disorder called gigantism where the pituitary produces too much GH. A kid with more GH than another will grow taller, and will be selected for the basketball team. The shorter kid won't. So, more GH, gets selected, gets more practice, becomes an athlete.
The cause is more GH, the effect is more practice.
In all examples, the cause is hormones, the effect is activity level.
More T = more active
More insulin = less active
More GH = more active
From there, we can determine in advance who will become a successful athlete. With study and practice, we develop, improve and maintain skill. The more practice, the better the skills. Being leaner/stronger/taller means we get selected for the team, we get more practice time, we become successful athletes.
Think about the PE class tests to see who's good at what. There's no consideration for how fat or lean somebody is. The only consideration is for speed, strength, endurance, agility, etc. Lean people tend to do better in all those things than fat people. Except perhaps strength, where some of the strongest men in the world are basically obese, i.e. weightlifters. Even then, some of those weightlifters are extremely lean.
What I got from this is that if you're insulin resistant you would benefit from a Very Low Carbohydrate, High fat, Mod Protein diet more so than if you are NOT insulin resistant.
Also towards the end he mentioned the Diabetic Australian Aborigines who went back to the bush and cured their diabetes -- you don't HAVE to go back to the bush --- just stay where you are and eat a Paleolithic Diet --- simple.
The high-protein caveat @ 34:00 was baseless. He admitted he had no evidence, yet he toed the party-line that high protein 'might' have detrimental long-term health effects. Without evidence, what good is mere speculation? Isn't it speculation regarding diets that this study explodes?
BTW, soy is no good for athletic men . . . talk about proven detrimental health consequences. Also, this guy does not know his fats.
@RustyIronloins Excessive protein is converted to glucose in the body. Look up "rabbit starvation." Fortunately, most animal protein sources are also accompanied with lots of fat.
I too learned about this presentation from Gary Taube's literature (except I read Why We Get Fat). Found this presentation extremely interesting. Is there any other presentations he gives, primarily on his interest in Flax Omega-3s vs Fish Omega-3s?
Wow! This iconfirms what I've learned by using myself as a guinea pig. I went all "Ornish" back in the mid 90's, and my triglycerides were not happy. I did Atkins against my better judgement in the late 90's to prove a point. It didn't prove my point, and my lipids looked great afterwards. I've been waiting for research to justify it to me before I could really accept it. This man needs to be a keynote speaker at ADA!!
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Anyone who is serious about diet and health ought to read Gary Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories". Lay people may prefer his new book "Why We Get Fat"
Taubes research will require all our diet and health textbooks to be rewritten. He is the definitve source now. Good ol' Atkins was right all along!! The medical authorities owe him a very big apology.
@bassrecorder1 Dr. Atkins is actually incorrect on several things. I am a low carb guy, by the way. He says that carbohydrates are the choice fuel of the body. Without carbohydrates, you use fat for fuel. It's actually the other way around. The select fuel of the body is fat. If you add carbohydrates, they prevent your body from using fat as fuel and instead you use carbohydrates for fuel. There were many low carb diets before Atkins- he just marketed it well.
@dummybummyful Yes, but I think Atkins meant that carbs are the first choice out of necessity not because they were a better source of fuel. I could be wrong on this but in any case, as Taubes says in defending Atkins, he was wrong about some things but right about the important things. I use "Atkins" to represent the alternate hypothesis in general. Perhaps I shouldn't. But, at he end of the day, Ancel Keys and all those who follow the low-fat paradigm should hang their heads in shame.
@Jitpring Great! Remember that you don't have to go without chocolate. If you can buy Lindt chocolate where you live just climb the Lindt ladder starting at 70% and work your way up to 90 or 99%. You can eat as much as you want and use it to make scrumptous desserts. Also use stevia as a sweetener. The Atkins for a New You book is very good. Don't be afraid of eggs. Just try to buy drug-free organic foods and eat hi-fat yogurt. If menopausal be patient. It could take months to reset yourself.
I Love this video. I eat low carb, but the more I learn about diet the more I think the problem isn't "carbs" in general but rather carbs from grains like wheat, corn, unfermented soy and sugar (mainly fructose). My mind changed after learning about the Kitavans, South Americans and Okinawans who eat high carb without any "western diseases." They just get them mostly from tubers, roots, potatoes and don't eat fake fats or sugar. A calorie isn't a calorie and it now seems a "carb isn't a carb."
eh, a carbs a carb; it just depends on what is mixed in with it. fiber makes carbs harder to digest, so the blood doesnt take on sugar as quickly, moderating the bodies insulin response as well.
@Pelonetillo Not when we compare the negative long term affects of whole wheat to a healthy sweet potato, or sugar to unrefined rice. The people I mentioned above eat 70-80% carb diets and have almost no Western disease. It seems a Paleo based diet eliminating wheat, corn, sugar, seed oil/vegetable fats and processed food in favor of whole foods, real fat and clean meat makes the macronutrient argument invalid. Also, check out Leptin resistance - not all obese people are insulin resistant.
70-80% relative to what though. they could be consuming fewer carbs even at that percentage--it depends on what the percent is relative to. and when you say disease, do you mean obesity or other stuff. because protein contributes to aging and age related diseases, so that could be another factor.
@Pelonetillo Kitavan's ~ 70% carb, 20% fat, 10% protein. Assuming that a human would need at least 1400 cals/day, that's about 245g carb, 31g fat, 35g protein. I consider low carb < 100g/day. Point being, high carb isn't necessarily bad. I just lump obesity, hypertension, cancer, diabetes and heart disease into "western diseases." Their main cause of death was/is infectious disease. Check out Stephan Guyenet's blog, he has a ton of info. Right or not, it's very interesting and science based.
@Pelonetillo Can the average human survive with fewer than 1400 cals/day!? I honestly don't know. Even at 1,200 cals they're still eating 210g of carb, but 1,200 sounds way too low for most people. I'm curious about "diluting" carbs, I've never heard of that - any sources I can check out? However, if that is what's going on, they're still not eating low carb. It goes back to the idea that quality of ingredients is more important than quantity of macronutrients.
by diluting i am talking about fiber again. fiber slows down the breakdown of carbs; this is why atkins people subtract grams of fiber for a net carb count. id be interested in getting exact figures for your Kitavans, South Americans and Okinawans. where can i find this?
@Pelonetillo Got it. Weight Watchers people do the same thing - but it all seems misguided. Whole grains may be healthier than processed grains, but that doesn't mean they're healthy, just the lesser of two evils. I got that all from Stephen's blog and articles linked from Paleohacks. He also talks about the Irish during the 1800's eating mostly potatoes with no evidence of "diseases of civilization." I still eat pretty low carb but started to add potatoes to see what happens.
@barryman9000 : The Kitavan's eat tubers, vegetables, fruit and fish. No grains or legumes! Their diet would not have been low saturated fat since coconut was a staple food in their diet. Their diet, for a lack of a better description, could be termed high-carb paleo. Would you agree?
This lecture zeros in on the main culprit for why diets fail, in that many diets don't provide the satiety necessary for people to stay on it for a long time. That is why people on low fat/low protein diets (i.e. the Ornish diet and the diets promoted by the AMA and ADA) fail, because those diets are restricting the two things - namely fat and protein - which produce the greatest satiating effect. Conversely Atkins allows for generous amounts of both fat/protein, thus more people stick with it.
@alphacause Couldn't agree more. Since "everybody knows" that eating fat is bad, those who "fail" at eating low carb do so because they also tend to eat low-fat. You just can't sustain constant low level hunger for very long. People should read up on cholesterol myths to see why we think fat is bad. I always suggest they start with Ancel Keys. Also, 8 of the 9 doctors who set the cholesterol marker of 200 get paid by drug companies who produce statins... coincidence? I think not.
Gardner must be commended for his integrity. There are plenty of scientists, who, for ideological aims, will ignore evidence that goes against their perspective. For a vegetarian professor, like Gardner, to admit in minute 0:53 - 0:54, that maybe a diet involving mostly protein and fat maybe better for fat loss and weight maintenance is a big admission. Most vegetarians/vegans are too seduced by the ideology of vegetarianism/veganism to concede to the science that tells them they maybe wrong.
There are 2 things one must know: (1) It is not about low-carb vs high carb. It is about low glycemic eating which is the healthiest way to eat, and (2) eating for your own metabolic profile is best. (There is a well researched questionnaire - consisting of 50 questions - to help you know which you are - Para Sympathetic, Sympathetic, or Balance). And corn - it is high glycemic, therefore unhealthy, and it - and its' byproducts - are in most processed foods. (I have the questionnaire)
I'm not fat but the fat I do have leans towards my belly, I think he calls that the pear shape. Does this mean I'm more likely to have good results with atkins than average?
@davyjames Actually fat that is predominately deposited in the abdominal region is referred to as an apple shape, and not a pear shape. A pear shaped physique is one where more fat is distributed along the hips, thighs, and buttocks. The apple shape, which is the one you describe, predisposes one for many illnesses, such as type 2 diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and possibly certain types of cancer. The pear shaped body is less prone to these diseases.
@davyjames As far as results, since you are an apple shape (see previous response I made to you for proper definition)) there is a great deal of evidence that you will do better on Atkins than people who are more pear shaped (again see previous response I made to you for proper definition). An apple shape body tends to indicate that you might suffer from insulin resistance, or other conditions known collectively as Metabolic Syndrome, and such people are particularly responsive to Atkins.
Dr. Gardner should be commended for a truthful presentation of the facts... even when they collide with his own personal dietary habits. This study is further confirmation that low-carbohydrate diets are the best way to lose weight and improve other biomarkers of health.
One point of correction at 22:20... Atkins NEVER proponed for people just to eat steak and whipped cream! In every one of his books he recommends that people eat plenty of non-starchy vegetables for health benefits.
One of the most important factors that I think people don't take into consideration when adopting a high-protein diet is exercise. A high protein diet, such as the Paleolithic diet, doesn't work without a Paleolithic lifestyle-- that is, you need to be building muscle and occasionally exercising rigorously in order for these types of diets to work. People that are sitting at a desk all day aren't going to benefit in the same way.
@alyssakies completely false, and I'd even bet your comment is based on nothing but opinion. Exercise is NOT key to weight loss. Most people who eat Atkins or a Paleo based diet (not to suggest they're the same) will lose weight even if they don't exercise. A person who doesn't exercise isn't going to "benefit" in general - it has nothing to do with which diet you're on. However saying that a Paleo diet doesn't work without exercise is completely wrong.
@alyssakies When did the "paleo" diet become a high protein diet? Building muscle and exercising occasionally are all good things but metabolically, why would they be necessary for the diet to work? Watch v MzA-E8zb-Ds .
@js290 By definition a paleo diet becomes a high(er) protein because the original idea of paleo is that humans originally ate the LEAN meat on animals. Since then it was shown that humans actually ate the FATEST meat, but that hasn't transferred to everyone's idea of a paleo diet. It is still likely to be higher than normal, however, because when you remove almost all carbs (which you do in a paleo diet) you must have more protein and fat to eat the required amount of calories.
After reading Taubes I anticipated insulin resistant people would do better low carb, but not that insulin sensitive people might lose more eating high carb (which some studies he presented showed). Any ideas how to explain this from people that have read Taubes? Also, I wonder if these studies looked at risk profiles. It would be interesting if insulin sensitive people lost more weight eating high carb but didn’t have as positive cholesterol and blood pressure results as the low carb group.
I appreciate his intellectual honesty in presenting evidence that went again not only his preconceptions, but his own dietary lifestyle choices and those of his children. He seems to have an open, curious mind and to be an experimental scientist of the first order.
I learned that my less than 100% compliance in the real world is probably natural ... and rather than be strictly low carb, I'll aim to get any carbs from vegetables and fruits.
Great video its nice to see some really honest science.
This video is rather old and what Dr. Gardner has done further with this study as a base as far as genetics and diet goes hase been quite interesting.
Thanks Dr Gardner for following the scientific method rather than rationalizing the data into what you want to believe. A lot of people would be healthier if public health policy studies were conducted this way back in the 1950s-1970s when the lipid hypothesis was created by cherry picking uncontrolled data. Too much insulin is probably the cause of many health problems today, but we need more studies like this to prove it.
"If they all reduced the amount of calories they say they did, they all would have lost 40 pounds. So they exaggerated." Well, no. Reducing calories reduces basal metabolism. For some people, it reduces basal metabolism quite dramatically.
Waterbury and Berardi are both smart guys. In fact, I do have books by both of them. They're both first and foremost businessmen though. They're both selling you something as their primary objective.
Of course. I've been on a controlled low- carb, high animal protein diet since 19 years..Practically never sick, very little to no aggressive mood swings. Gained 19 lbs of muscle through weight lifting. You couldn't pay me enough to get off my diet!
Can I guess that you are 25 or under, your diet is a type of the paleo diet and your muscle.....probably through crossfit? Just guessing by your verbage. Not that any of that is bad. Paleo is like New atkins on grassfed meat. Low carb but eat healthy meats not just slabs of bacon all day. Probably a fan of Robb Wolf who is big on insulin resistance info, he bring paleo tp more low carb than the original paleolitic diet book. You higher itake of fat for kcal vs carb reduced moodiness.
@RichardDeziel The weight loss industry is after women, it influences the publication in magazines of stick thin models who are then photoshopped to inhuman proportions. It isn't about being healthy or making us healthy, it's about selling weight loss products. Being healthy means eating natural healthy non processed foods and exercising enough. It's not about eating a little bit of food so you can fit into a size 3. A size 2 is healthier.
From my own experience substituting carbohydrates for fat is quite easy if you allow yourself to eat carbohydrates now and then.
My personal experience is that my mucus membranes got less infected resulting in ease of breath, I also didn't get any extreme spikes in blood pressure after a meal.
And in my opinion it tastes a lot better, fat(specially animalian fats) are much more tasty than carbohydrates which tend to get quite bland. I got a whole lot of new culinary delights introduces to me.
It's easy. Also many of the complaints about it are hearsay. For instance, early into low carbohydrate dieting it IS difficult to exercise. However, in a couple of weeks the human body adjusts to favoring fat over muscle glycogen as a fuel. Simply put, the body will adapt to using the fuel it is given. If you're eating mostly carbs, your body will fuel itself with those. If you switch to fats, your body will shrug and then start using those instead.
I tell you what. I did Atkins, I didn't need to loose weight, I did it to help put my Heartburn under control and that it did. I am off Nexixum, and I am not even that Low Carb anymore. All the talk about Bad Breath, Constipation etc, It didn't happen. I took suplements, Magnesium, Calcium and vitamins, ate a ton of Low Carb vegattables and greens and whole foods, eggs/fish/meat and I actually became regular without bloating. The time to go to the can was at 10 seconds, Go figure!
Good study, well presented. I don't understand the need to vilify saturated fats though. It's not like he is referring to any studies of saturated fats vs. non saturated.
I guess he had to get a few licks in, after having his lifestyle blown away so significantly?
I have searched the internet in vain to find stories about morbidly obese people who lost weight on a low calorie lowfat diet. Can anyone point me to any resources/proof please? I have not yet found a single person!
Sounds a lot like loosing weight through self inflicted torture. I doubt such a diet can be upheld for very long nor that is very efficient as the body starts to gear down in case of starvation.
Yet still lost weight. Fat is mor calorie dense so a pound of say backon has a lot more carbs than a pound of potato. Still this study was on weight loss and Atikins people still lost weight and did not get the high LDL that we always thought they would.
Love how he says he will follow the books to the letter and then modifies the Atkins diet! Even funnier when even having been ruined the Atkins diet still kicks the others ass! Too ban this guy has an agenda and at the end still tries to turn atkins into some sort or retard vegan nonsense! Vegetarianism is a political position not a health choice! Vegetarianism ends with "ism" like Communism, Capitalism, Fascism etc! How do you loose weight following an Ideology!
He actually says that the people who took part in the study were told to follow the books to the letter, which they did not & the study reflects that. It makes it a much more realistic study as almost everyone will cheat on their diet. He does make that clear, maybe you missed that part.
As a vegan physician I share Dr Gardner's dicomfort to learn that carbs are probably dietary enemy #1. My wake-up came after reading Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes. I was surprised to learn that this idea is an old one, with lots of pre-WWII science behind it, and post-war fat-heart disease histeria against it. Thanks for your honesty and willingness to follow the data.
Great info! I lost half my body weight (over 150 lbs) when I stopped dieting. The long term effects of dieting is weight gain. Dieting was created for profit and population control. Good luck!
As for low-carb dieters failing to maintain the initial carb intake, they aren't supposed to if on Atkins specifically. Induction is a rather extreme restriction of carbs and is meant to last for *at least* two weeks. Atkins says it's ok to extend beyond that if you think you can. At some point, ALL Atkins dieters are supposed to increase their carbs to a level that simply allows them to maintain, rather than loose, weight.
I wish you would have talked more about lipolysis and ketoacidocis. They are a necessary component to the Atkins Diet but many people are not aware or do not understand them. I have lost 14% of my weight over the past 5 months on
Atkins and suffered with obesity for over 12 years. Also, if you do not get enough calories in your diet, you will go into starvation mode and your body will hold onto its stored fat for dear life! I wish you would have talked about its influence on your study. TY
First of all ketoacidocis ist NOT part of the atkins diet, it is a complication involved in having diabetis.
The condition you go throug in Phase I of the Atkins diet is called ketosis, which is a normal and natural shift in metabolism your body goes throug either in carb restriction or in starvation ( in order to tap your body fat). It is neither unhealty nor unnatural.
It's merely uncommon today since we are eating too many carbs which is the real reason for obesity.
I think you misunderstood my comment. I am a supporter of the Atkins diet. Please try reading it again now that you have corrected the term for the state of the body using stored fat for energy. Replace "ketoacidocis" with "ketosis".
There things in red meat that you can not get from other foods. Also, there have been studies that show that the brain needs a certain amount of cholesteral.
misslilygish 7 hours ago
So it seems if you are 30-34 bmi, with a gut, you might be insulin resistant, and you should really study Atkins for 8 weeks, and do the diet for a year. Also follow the water advice in case the upcoming study is right about the explanation for differences being the extra water. That's what it "seems" to be saying.
MisterWeatherby 6 days ago
I wish I had eaten low-carb long ago because, even anecdotally, I do have more energy. I was a good athlete but would have liked the extra energy to use. Nice study. I liked the part showing the effectiveness of Atkins on insulin resistant folks. I also liked how Atkins lowered all numbers for common risk measures for heart disease... even though the control group couldn't hold to 15% carbs. It appears to be effective even if it isn't followed exactly... especially if you are insulin resistant.
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irfanrafique100 4 weeks ago
I am interested in the formula he gave to see if you have insulin sensitivity. Is is triglycerides divided by HDL with a value of equal or more than 3?
tubo1812 1 month ago
At 20:00 Gardner says "if all groups had really cut back that many calories they would have all lost 40 lbs." He attributes the discrepancy in weight loss to false reporting of calories consumed. However, this would require consistent false reporting in some groups but not others.
A better conclusion is that the calories burned in all 4 groups was not the same. The Atkins group had relatively more energy available while the other 3 groups had relatively less energy.
andrewpmack 1 month ago
@andrewpmack
None of that matters because it doesn't work like that. The cause of obesity is not overeating. The cause of weight loss is not undereating. Obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation, not a disorder of overeating. So what controls fat accumulation?
The most probable answer: watch?v=M6vpFV6Wkl4
Full title: Authors@Google: Gary Taubes
JackFook 1 month ago
@arrogantcoconut its not the scientists fault dude, its the freaking government. Only certain information is approved by the fucking FDA and a lot of it is old and is bull shit by now.
ABL36 1 month ago
Ornish, where's your god now?
tom360 2 months ago
SIMPLE ANSWER, X amount of Calories injested, X amount spent on the couch, Un-plug the television America. haha.
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bikeman78 2 months ago
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sweetgirly64 2 months ago
@sweetgirly64 First of all 25lb of what fat or muscle? Secondly what makes you think this will be appropriate for all of us. Was your initial goal to loose pounds from anything period or was it to gain muscle while loosing fat to look fit. These are the questions of a personal trainer and what annoys me the most when people tell me they want to loose fat or look fit. Fit can mean different things to anyone. You gotta be more specific about your goals or in this case, what you achieved,.
ABL36 1 month ago
Good research sharing
MrPEDOCTOR 2 months ago
Fucking annoting audience.. SHUT UP!!!!
mycal64 4 months ago
I ate everything I could get my hands on as a kid and you know what? I was thin as a rail and in tremendous shape. I use to bike around 11 miles a week as a kid. Carbs are not the problem if you're burning it off exercising.
Antiks72 4 months ago
@Antiks72 Metabolism slows/ you gradually fuck it up through insulin resistance over time. Your excercise factor is anecdotal and moot.
Davori 4 months ago
@Davori Bullshit.
Antiks72 3 months ago
@Antiks72 I used to know a kid who played basketball all the time when he was a kid. He grew up to be 6'5". If I only would have played more basketball when I was a kid, I'd be taller. It's not hormones that make you grow it's basketball.
SizzlechestXXX 4 months ago
@SizzlechestXXX You totally missed my point and erected a strawman argument.
Antiks72 4 months ago
@Antiks72 No, I just showed you how absurd your thinking is. You're assuming correlation = causation. Lots of things changed since you were a kid. Hormones, diet, stress, etc. Maybe you were more active because you were thinner, not the other way around? Did you ever consider that?
SizzlechestXXX 4 months ago
@SizzlechestXXX I'm pretty sure exercising leads to weight loss for a majority of the populace. Quit making excuses and hit the gym, fat ass.
Antiks72 4 months ago
@Antiks72 I'm pretty sure you lack the mental capacity to understand basic science. Quit making excuses and hit the library, dumb ass.
SizzlechestXXX 4 months ago
@SizzlechestXXX I've read more than you ever could, sparky.
Antiks72 4 months ago
@Antiks72 And yet you still don't understand. Tragic.
SizzlechestXXX 4 months ago
@SizzlechestXXX I understand you're a fat ass who doesn't want to exercise, and that's perfectly clear from where I'm sitting. Long distance runners, swimmers, and other athletes eat lots of carbs and are thin. Are they eating sugar? No, but they are eating things like pasta. So get off your ass and hit the gym.
Antiks72 4 months ago
@Antiks72 Wow. You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper and don't even realize it. What a sad little man you are.
SizzlechestXXX 3 months ago
@SizzlechestXXX I think not. :) I think you know the truth deep down. Come on...admit it; you're lazy and fat.
Antiks72 3 months ago
@Antiks72 Maybe you should try an exercise that's really difficult for you. Like picking up a book. If your brain were a muscle, wait...that sounds about right. Nuff said.
SizzlechestXXX 3 months ago
@SizzlechestXXX How about life experience, lard bucket?
Antiks72 3 months ago
@Antiks72 Does your handler know you're on the Internet? Do you find it difficult to post wearing a protective helmet and drool cup? Don't try to hard to be witty; you might give yourself an aneurysm.
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@SizzlechestXXX Impressive come back. I'll have to use that myself.
Antiks72 3 months ago
@Antiks72
Between two sprinters, for equal strength, the lightest of the two will tend to be faster. He's not lighter because he's faster, he's faster because he's lighter. Basic physics.
Between two cars, for equal engine power, the lightest of the two will tend to be faster. It's not lighter because it's faster, it's faster because it's lighter. Basic physics.
JackFook 2 months ago
@Antiks72
"Long distance runners, swimmers, and other athletes eat lots of carbs and are thin."
Ever see a fat sprinter? Maybe it's because a fat sprinter has no chance to beat a lean sprinter. How many Olympic disciplines do you know where being fat is a competitive advantage? You believe that exercise makes people lean. In other words, you believe people are lean because they are athletes. But the reality is that people are athletes because they are lean.
JackFook 2 months ago
@JackFook I disagree. You can be an athlete and not look lean and you can be a non athlete and look lean by genetics. It's a lot about genetics. Any one who is not living a sedentary lifestyle is an athlete. Do you lift weights atleast 3 days a week? Yes? Then your not sedentary. Are you lean while you do this? No? Then your still an athlete reguardless.of how you look. I've seen fat athletes and I've seen skinny and muscular, even in the same sport. Athletes come in different shapes and sizes.
ABL36 1 month ago
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@ABL36
"You can be an athlete and not look lean and you can be a non athlete and look lean by genetics."
That's correct. But the question wasn't about athletes, but about lean vs fat. A lean sprinter will tend to be faster than a fat sprinter. Both are athletes, but the leaner of the two tends to win more competitions by virtue of being leaner, not by virtue of being an athlete.
JackFook 1 month ago
@ABL36
Consider hockey recruiting at a young age. The 10 year old is stronger, faster, smarter than the 9 year old. So when we select who plays, we select the 10 year old. The same is true with fat vs lean. The leaner will be faster, therefore he will be selected for the sprint team. If he's selected, he will get more practice and eventually become an athlete. The fat kid will not be selected, will not get any practice, will not become an athlete.
JackFook 1 month ago
@ABL36
So what's the cause and what's the effect? Is obesity caused by sedentary behavior? In our fat vs lean sprinters, obesity is the cause (does not get selected for the sprint team), sedentary behavior is the effect (gets no practice on the track).
JackFook 1 month ago
@ABL36
The same is true for strength competition. The stronger gets selected for the team, the weaker doesn't. The cause is greater strength, the effect is more practice.
Strength is primarily a function of muscle mass, which is primarily a function of hormones, namely testosterone. The more T, the greater the muscle mass. We could say that the best athletes are those with the most T.
JackFook 1 month ago
@ABL36
If T is the primary factor for strength, what's the primary factor for obesity? It's a hormone: Insulin. Just like T and strength, the more insulin the more obesity. Just like T determines if we get selected for the team because of our strength, insulin determines if we get selected for the sprint team because of our leanness and obesity.
JackFook 1 month ago
@ABL36
Growth hormone during child growth determines final adult height. The more GH, the taller we get. There's a disorder called gigantism where the pituitary produces too much GH. A kid with more GH than another will grow taller, and will be selected for the basketball team. The shorter kid won't. So, more GH, gets selected, gets more practice, becomes an athlete.
The cause is more GH, the effect is more practice.
JackFook 1 month ago
@ABL36
In all examples, the cause is hormones, the effect is activity level.
More T = more active
More insulin = less active
More GH = more active
From there, we can determine in advance who will become a successful athlete. With study and practice, we develop, improve and maintain skill. The more practice, the better the skills. Being leaner/stronger/taller means we get selected for the team, we get more practice time, we become successful athletes.
JackFook 1 month ago
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JackFook 2 months ago
@Antiks72
Think about the PE class tests to see who's good at what. There's no consideration for how fat or lean somebody is. The only consideration is for speed, strength, endurance, agility, etc. Lean people tend to do better in all those things than fat people. Except perhaps strength, where some of the strongest men in the world are basically obese, i.e. weightlifters. Even then, some of those weightlifters are extremely lean.
We are athletes because we are lean.
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milan5573 4 months ago
This is a great video. Very impressive to come from someone who is a vegetarian.
jmegert 5 months ago 2
What I got from this is that if you're insulin resistant you would benefit from a Very Low Carbohydrate, High fat, Mod Protein diet more so than if you are NOT insulin resistant.
Also towards the end he mentioned the Diabetic Australian Aborigines who went back to the bush and cured their diabetes -- you don't HAVE to go back to the bush --- just stay where you are and eat a Paleolithic Diet --- simple.
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jonathanbartles 7 months ago 43
why did they laugh at the paleo diet?
fnchdrms87 7 months ago 2
Christopher Gardner is obviously biased towards his vegitarian diet even though the results show the Atkins diet faired much better.
sholbk 8 months ago 2
Christopher Gardner is obviously biased towards his vegitarian diet even though the results show the Atkins diet faired much better.
sholbk 8 months ago
@js290,
A rabbit is not a man, therefore, changes in rabbit biology do not represent human biology neccessarily.
badsantaro 9 months ago
A rabbit is not a man.
badsantaro 9 months ago
The high-protein caveat @ 34:00 was baseless. He admitted he had no evidence, yet he toed the party-line that high protein 'might' have detrimental long-term health effects. Without evidence, what good is mere speculation? Isn't it speculation regarding diets that this study explodes?
BTW, soy is no good for athletic men . . . talk about proven detrimental health consequences. Also, this guy does not know his fats.
RustyIronloins 10 months ago 6
@RustyIronloins Excessive protein is converted to glucose in the body. Look up "rabbit starvation." Fortunately, most animal protein sources are also accompanied with lots of fat.
js290 10 months ago
Always good to see some new information on an important topic.
adastrarize 11 months ago
I too learned about this presentation from Gary Taube's literature (except I read Why We Get Fat). Found this presentation extremely interesting. Is there any other presentations he gives, primarily on his interest in Flax Omega-3s vs Fish Omega-3s?
sandersonlax05 11 months ago
Glad I live in NZ where or cows are grass fed.
ALucas73 11 months ago 2
Paleo does work really well. It is basically a version of low carb high fat/protein diet. Surprised it got laughed at by many in the crowd.
scraniel1 1 year ago
Why are some slides blacked out?
cwolf88 1 year ago
why did they laugh at the paleolithic diet? Seriously, this is not a rhetorical question.
vesperus1981 1 year ago
@vesperus1981 I was wondering the same thing. Most of the audience probably has no idea what it really is I'm guessing.
TWCGroup 11 months ago
This is right up there with Dr. Lustig's Sugar: The Bitter Truth.
js290 1 year ago
Wow! This iconfirms what I've learned by using myself as a guinea pig. I went all "Ornish" back in the mid 90's, and my triglycerides were not happy. I did Atkins against my better judgement in the late 90's to prove a point. It didn't prove my point, and my lipids looked great afterwards. I've been waiting for research to justify it to me before I could really accept it. This man needs to be a keynote speaker at ADA!!
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whwoowee 1 year ago
@whwoowee Writing all in capital letters makes us all really take you more seriously and take the time to read your desperate ramblings.
Esoparagon 1 year ago
Anyone who is serious about diet and health ought to read Gary Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories". Lay people may prefer his new book "Why We Get Fat"
Taubes research will require all our diet and health textbooks to be rewritten. He is the definitve source now. Good ol' Atkins was right all along!! The medical authorities owe him a very big apology.
bassrecorder1 1 year ago 73
@bassrecorder1 Dr. Atkins is actually incorrect on several things. I am a low carb guy, by the way. He says that carbohydrates are the choice fuel of the body. Without carbohydrates, you use fat for fuel. It's actually the other way around. The select fuel of the body is fat. If you add carbohydrates, they prevent your body from using fat as fuel and instead you use carbohydrates for fuel. There were many low carb diets before Atkins- he just marketed it well.
dummybummyful 5 months ago
@dummybummyful Yes, but I think Atkins meant that carbs are the first choice out of necessity not because they were a better source of fuel. I could be wrong on this but in any case, as Taubes says in defending Atkins, he was wrong about some things but right about the important things. I use "Atkins" to represent the alternate hypothesis in general. Perhaps I shouldn't. But, at he end of the day, Ancel Keys and all those who follow the low-fat paradigm should hang their heads in shame.
bassrecorder1 5 months ago
@bassrecorder1 True. All that really matters is people eat a low carb diet. Anything more than that we can deal with later on.
dummybummyful 5 months ago
@bassrecorder1 I just finished Taubes' "Why We Get Fat," which led me to this video. I'm now on Atkins.
Jitpring 4 months ago 9
@Jitpring Great! Remember that you don't have to go without chocolate. If you can buy Lindt chocolate where you live just climb the Lindt ladder starting at 70% and work your way up to 90 or 99%. You can eat as much as you want and use it to make scrumptous desserts. Also use stevia as a sweetener. The Atkins for a New You book is very good. Don't be afraid of eggs. Just try to buy drug-free organic foods and eat hi-fat yogurt. If menopausal be patient. It could take months to reset yourself.
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alderms 3 months ago
I Love this video. I eat low carb, but the more I learn about diet the more I think the problem isn't "carbs" in general but rather carbs from grains like wheat, corn, unfermented soy and sugar (mainly fructose). My mind changed after learning about the Kitavans, South Americans and Okinawans who eat high carb without any "western diseases." They just get them mostly from tubers, roots, potatoes and don't eat fake fats or sugar. A calorie isn't a calorie and it now seems a "carb isn't a carb."
barryman9000 1 year ago
eh, a carbs a carb; it just depends on what is mixed in with it. fiber makes carbs harder to digest, so the blood doesnt take on sugar as quickly, moderating the bodies insulin response as well.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Not when we compare the negative long term affects of whole wheat to a healthy sweet potato, or sugar to unrefined rice. The people I mentioned above eat 70-80% carb diets and have almost no Western disease. It seems a Paleo based diet eliminating wheat, corn, sugar, seed oil/vegetable fats and processed food in favor of whole foods, real fat and clean meat makes the macronutrient argument invalid. Also, check out Leptin resistance - not all obese people are insulin resistant.
barryman9000 1 year ago
70-80% relative to what though. they could be consuming fewer carbs even at that percentage--it depends on what the percent is relative to. and when you say disease, do you mean obesity or other stuff. because protein contributes to aging and age related diseases, so that could be another factor.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Kitavan's ~ 70% carb, 20% fat, 10% protein. Assuming that a human would need at least 1400 cals/day, that's about 245g carb, 31g fat, 35g protein. I consider low carb < 100g/day. Point being, high carb isn't necessarily bad. I just lump obesity, hypertension, cancer, diabetes and heart disease into "western diseases." Their main cause of death was/is infectious disease. Check out Stephan Guyenet's blog, he has a ton of info. Right or not, it's very interesting and science based.
barryman9000 1 year ago
assuming. not necessarily, but its important to remember that high is a relative term. plus, carbs can be diluted. i will look into the blog. thanks.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Can the average human survive with fewer than 1400 cals/day!? I honestly don't know. Even at 1,200 cals they're still eating 210g of carb, but 1,200 sounds way too low for most people. I'm curious about "diluting" carbs, I've never heard of that - any sources I can check out? However, if that is what's going on, they're still not eating low carb. It goes back to the idea that quality of ingredients is more important than quantity of macronutrients.
barryman9000 1 year ago
by diluting i am talking about fiber again. fiber slows down the breakdown of carbs; this is why atkins people subtract grams of fiber for a net carb count. id be interested in getting exact figures for your Kitavans, South Americans and Okinawans. where can i find this?
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Got it. Weight Watchers people do the same thing - but it all seems misguided. Whole grains may be healthier than processed grains, but that doesn't mean they're healthy, just the lesser of two evils. I got that all from Stephen's blog and articles linked from Paleohacks. He also talks about the Irish during the 1800's eating mostly potatoes with no evidence of "diseases of civilization." I still eat pretty low carb but started to add potatoes to see what happens.
barryman9000 1 year ago
tooth decay reversal eh... bookmarked ^_^
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@barryman9000 : The Kitavan's eat tubers, vegetables, fruit and fish. No grains or legumes! Their diet would not have been low saturated fat since coconut was a staple food in their diet. Their diet, for a lack of a better description, could be termed high-carb paleo. Would you agree?
auggiedoggy 11 months ago
@auggiedoggy Yeah, I'd say so.
barryman9000 11 months ago
This lecture zeros in on the main culprit for why diets fail, in that many diets don't provide the satiety necessary for people to stay on it for a long time. That is why people on low fat/low protein diets (i.e. the Ornish diet and the diets promoted by the AMA and ADA) fail, because those diets are restricting the two things - namely fat and protein - which produce the greatest satiating effect. Conversely Atkins allows for generous amounts of both fat/protein, thus more people stick with it.
alphacause 1 year ago
@alphacause Couldn't agree more. Since "everybody knows" that eating fat is bad, those who "fail" at eating low carb do so because they also tend to eat low-fat. You just can't sustain constant low level hunger for very long. People should read up on cholesterol myths to see why we think fat is bad. I always suggest they start with Ancel Keys. Also, 8 of the 9 doctors who set the cholesterol marker of 200 get paid by drug companies who produce statins... coincidence? I think not.
barryman9000 1 year ago
Gardner must be commended for his integrity. There are plenty of scientists, who, for ideological aims, will ignore evidence that goes against their perspective. For a vegetarian professor, like Gardner, to admit in minute 0:53 - 0:54, that maybe a diet involving mostly protein and fat maybe better for fat loss and weight maintenance is a big admission. Most vegetarians/vegans are too seduced by the ideology of vegetarianism/veganism to concede to the science that tells them they maybe wrong.
alphacause 1 year ago 6
There are 2 things one must know: (1) It is not about low-carb vs high carb. It is about low glycemic eating which is the healthiest way to eat, and (2) eating for your own metabolic profile is best. (There is a well researched questionnaire - consisting of 50 questions - to help you know which you are - Para Sympathetic, Sympathetic, or Balance). And corn - it is high glycemic, therefore unhealthy, and it - and its' byproducts - are in most processed foods. (I have the questionnaire)
PeggyfromPorcupine 1 year ago
I'm not fat but the fat I do have leans towards my belly, I think he calls that the pear shape. Does this mean I'm more likely to have good results with atkins than average?
davyjames 1 year ago
@davyjames Actually fat that is predominately deposited in the abdominal region is referred to as an apple shape, and not a pear shape. A pear shaped physique is one where more fat is distributed along the hips, thighs, and buttocks. The apple shape, which is the one you describe, predisposes one for many illnesses, such as type 2 diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and possibly certain types of cancer. The pear shaped body is less prone to these diseases.
alphacause 1 year ago
@davyjames As far as results, since you are an apple shape (see previous response I made to you for proper definition)) there is a great deal of evidence that you will do better on Atkins than people who are more pear shaped (again see previous response I made to you for proper definition). An apple shape body tends to indicate that you might suffer from insulin resistance, or other conditions known collectively as Metabolic Syndrome, and such people are particularly responsive to Atkins.
alphacause 1 year ago
@alphacause Thank you very much for taking the time to give me a detailed response. I appreciate it.
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belathequeen 1 year ago
Dr. Gardner should be commended for a truthful presentation of the facts... even when they collide with his own personal dietary habits. This study is further confirmation that low-carbohydrate diets are the best way to lose weight and improve other biomarkers of health.
One point of correction at 22:20... Atkins NEVER proponed for people just to eat steak and whipped cream! In every one of his books he recommends that people eat plenty of non-starchy vegetables for health benefits.
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jossmarryrf 1 year ago
One of the most important factors that I think people don't take into consideration when adopting a high-protein diet is exercise. A high protein diet, such as the Paleolithic diet, doesn't work without a Paleolithic lifestyle-- that is, you need to be building muscle and occasionally exercising rigorously in order for these types of diets to work. People that are sitting at a desk all day aren't going to benefit in the same way.
alyssakies 1 year ago
@alyssakies completely false, and I'd even bet your comment is based on nothing but opinion. Exercise is NOT key to weight loss. Most people who eat Atkins or a Paleo based diet (not to suggest they're the same) will lose weight even if they don't exercise. A person who doesn't exercise isn't going to "benefit" in general - it has nothing to do with which diet you're on. However saying that a Paleo diet doesn't work without exercise is completely wrong.
barryman9000 11 months ago
@alyssakies When did the "paleo" diet become a high protein diet? Building muscle and exercising occasionally are all good things but metabolically, why would they be necessary for the diet to work? Watch v MzA-E8zb-Ds .
js290 10 months ago
@js290 By definition a paleo diet becomes a high(er) protein because the original idea of paleo is that humans originally ate the LEAN meat on animals. Since then it was shown that humans actually ate the FATEST meat, but that hasn't transferred to everyone's idea of a paleo diet. It is still likely to be higher than normal, however, because when you remove almost all carbs (which you do in a paleo diet) you must have more protein and fat to eat the required amount of calories.
scsdssem 9 months ago
After reading Taubes I anticipated insulin resistant people would do better low carb, but not that insulin sensitive people might lose more eating high carb (which some studies he presented showed). Any ideas how to explain this from people that have read Taubes? Also, I wonder if these studies looked at risk profiles. It would be interesting if insulin sensitive people lost more weight eating high carb but didn’t have as positive cholesterol and blood pressure results as the low carb group.
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SYLVIERAUBde 1 year ago
Wow a college professor with long hair, is a vegan and loves soy. No stereotype there.
LocalHCG 1 year ago
Really great presentation from Doctor Gardner.
I appreciate his intellectual honesty in presenting evidence that went again not only his preconceptions, but his own dietary lifestyle choices and those of his children. He seems to have an open, curious mind and to be an experimental scientist of the first order.
I learned that my less than 100% compliance in the real world is probably natural ... and rather than be strictly low carb, I'll aim to get any carbs from vegetables and fruits.
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caroaillaud 1 year ago
Great video its nice to see some really honest science.
This video is rather old and what Dr. Gardner has done further with this study as a base as far as genetics and diet goes hase been quite interesting.
IskurBlast 1 year ago
@IskurBlast
any links to his newer work?
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ObesityMyth 1 year ago
Thanks Dr Gardner for following the scientific method rather than rationalizing the data into what you want to believe. A lot of people would be healthier if public health policy studies were conducted this way back in the 1950s-1970s when the lipid hypothesis was created by cherry picking uncontrolled data. Too much insulin is probably the cause of many health problems today, but we need more studies like this to prove it.
2trey4five 1 year ago 4
Great talk!
DarthVaygr 1 year ago
why is this shit partially blocked off around 5 1/2 min?
tune5k 2 years ago
@tune5k maybe to avoid copyright infringement?
liptos 1 year ago
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losebellyfatquickly 2 years ago
"If they all reduced the amount of calories they say they did, they all would have lost 40 pounds. So they exaggerated." Well, no. Reducing calories reduces basal metabolism. For some people, it reduces basal metabolism quite dramatically.
polymorphously 2 years ago 9
its been a long time since i've heard such bullshiting lecture, waste of time
if u wanna change ur body composition and learn the science behind it i recommend u read Chad Waterbury's and John Berardi's books
mufaPufaDha 2 years ago
Waterbury and Berardi are both smart guys. In fact, I do have books by both of them. They're both first and foremost businessmen though. They're both selling you something as their primary objective.
tobarstep 2 years ago
Genuinely impressive lecture
FrogmortonHotchkiss 2 years ago
the case for soup and volumetrics was fascinating! People in eastern europe (i.e. Poland) eat soup every day... no wonder they are so thin!
Kora10LGA 2 years ago
Of course. I've been on a controlled low- carb, high animal protein diet since 19 years..Practically never sick, very little to no aggressive mood swings. Gained 19 lbs of muscle through weight lifting. You couldn't pay me enough to get off my diet!
RichardDeziel 2 years ago 53
Can I guess that you are 25 or under, your diet is a type of the paleo diet and your muscle.....probably through crossfit? Just guessing by your verbage. Not that any of that is bad. Paleo is like New atkins on grassfed meat. Low carb but eat healthy meats not just slabs of bacon all day. Probably a fan of Robb Wolf who is big on insulin resistance info, he bring paleo tp more low carb than the original paleolitic diet book. You higher itake of fat for kcal vs carb reduced moodiness.
Sardious 2 years ago
@RichardDeziel The weight loss industry is after women, it influences the publication in magazines of stick thin models who are then photoshopped to inhuman proportions. It isn't about being healthy or making us healthy, it's about selling weight loss products. Being healthy means eating natural healthy non processed foods and exercising enough. It's not about eating a little bit of food so you can fit into a size 3. A size 2 is healthier.
MsAgnosticatheist 8 months ago
lol at the horrible editing at about 5:00
They show all the books and then about 3 seconds later they black them out...hahaha, whoever did that was pretty lazy!
TheSmash4cash 2 years ago
I like the shot (around 45:00) where they pan away from the slide but don't take away the blackout box.
monsterfitness 2 years ago
Interesting that low carb is supposed to be very difficult to stick to but the Atkins retention rate is the highest.
marneedear 2 years ago 6
From my own experience substituting carbohydrates for fat is quite easy if you allow yourself to eat carbohydrates now and then.
My personal experience is that my mucus membranes got less infected resulting in ease of breath, I also didn't get any extreme spikes in blood pressure after a meal.
And in my opinion it tastes a lot better, fat(specially animalian fats) are much more tasty than carbohydrates which tend to get quite bland. I got a whole lot of new culinary delights introduces to me.
lordmetroid 2 years ago 2
It's easy. Also many of the complaints about it are hearsay. For instance, early into low carbohydrate dieting it IS difficult to exercise. However, in a couple of weeks the human body adjusts to favoring fat over muscle glycogen as a fuel. Simply put, the body will adapt to using the fuel it is given. If you're eating mostly carbs, your body will fuel itself with those. If you switch to fats, your body will shrug and then start using those instead.
dwils27 2 years ago 3
I tell you what. I did Atkins, I didn't need to loose weight, I did it to help put my Heartburn under control and that it did. I am off Nexixum, and I am not even that Low Carb anymore. All the talk about Bad Breath, Constipation etc, It didn't happen. I took suplements, Magnesium, Calcium and vitamins, ate a ton of Low Carb vegattables and greens and whole foods, eggs/fish/meat and I actually became regular without bloating. The time to go to the can was at 10 seconds, Go figure!
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lizzie55love 2 years ago
Good study, well presented. I don't understand the need to vilify saturated fats though. It's not like he is referring to any studies of saturated fats vs. non saturated.
I guess he had to get a few licks in, after having his lifestyle blown away so significantly?
spuppy852 2 years ago 4
Let me get this right - this guy is a veggie, admitting that Atkins improves bloods? Duh?
bundleHastings 2 years ago 6
I have searched the internet in vain to find stories about morbidly obese people who lost weight on a low calorie lowfat diet. Can anyone point me to any resources/proof please? I have not yet found a single person!
bundleHastings 2 years ago
They don't lose any weight. Gary Taubes book 'Good Calories, Bad Calories' has a huge chapter on this.
mottdog2002 2 years ago 2
Sounds a lot like loosing weight through self inflicted torture. I doubt such a diet can be upheld for very long nor that is very efficient as the body starts to gear down in case of starvation.
lordmetroid 2 years ago
You do understand that people eating low carbohydrate diets often consume more calories than they ate attempting to diet by other methods, don't you?
dwils27 2 years ago 2
Yet still lost weight. Fat is mor calorie dense so a pound of say backon has a lot more carbs than a pound of potato. Still this study was on weight loss and Atikins people still lost weight and did not get the high LDL that we always thought they would.
Sardious 2 years ago
You must be exceedingly stupid then
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
@Stonewalljackson7
check out "metabolic typing" by wolcott
it will explain alot about how certain cultures eat certain foods and thrive.
inuit indians consume mostly meat and fat and very little carbos- and have exceptional health and longevity.
topheramazz 2 years ago 2
The inuit have a relatively short life span
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
dont know where u pulled that out of- but ok.
topheramazz 2 years ago
No they didn't actually. many live into there 100's
mottdog2002 1 year ago
and your source?
Stonewalljackson7 1 year ago
I did check it out, took the test and it said i'm a carbo type. and recommends exactly the diet i'm on.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
Love how he says he will follow the books to the letter and then modifies the Atkins diet! Even funnier when even having been ruined the Atkins diet still kicks the others ass! Too ban this guy has an agenda and at the end still tries to turn atkins into some sort or retard vegan nonsense! Vegetarianism is a political position not a health choice! Vegetarianism ends with "ism" like Communism, Capitalism, Fascism etc! How do you loose weight following an Ideology!
BIGSBYTREM 2 years ago
He actually says that the people who took part in the study were told to follow the books to the letter, which they did not & the study reflects that. It makes it a much more realistic study as almost everyone will cheat on their diet. He does make that clear, maybe you missed that part.
thedrugthatkilled 2 years ago 6
Stop. You're going to make me resort to alcoholism, and I would hate being known for that "political position" or "ideology".
mensameme1 2 years ago 3
dumbass
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
GREAT video.
dibeling 2 years ago
As a vegan physician I share Dr Gardner's dicomfort to learn that carbs are probably dietary enemy #1. My wake-up came after reading Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes. I was surprised to learn that this idea is an old one, with lots of pre-WWII science behind it, and post-war fat-heart disease histeria against it. Thanks for your honesty and willingness to follow the data.
frankjspencejr 2 years ago 36
@frankjspencejr Gary Taubes did it for me too :D Changed my life for the better.
anoteoftruth 1 year ago
It's so unfortunate that people won't know this truth.
sugarkang 2 years ago
Great info! I lost half my body weight (over 150 lbs) when I stopped dieting. The long term effects of dieting is weight gain. Dieting was created for profit and population control. Good luck!
thintuition 2 years ago
As for low-carb dieters failing to maintain the initial carb intake, they aren't supposed to if on Atkins specifically. Induction is a rather extreme restriction of carbs and is meant to last for *at least* two weeks. Atkins says it's ok to extend beyond that if you think you can. At some point, ALL Atkins dieters are supposed to increase their carbs to a level that simply allows them to maintain, rather than loose, weight.
TheTypicalGirl 3 years ago 6
The reasoning behind moving up the carb ladder are specious at best.
marneedear 2 years ago
second time around Atkins Diet got very hard
amricanka 3 years ago 2
Great lecture but what about raw food diets...,HCG diets ...?
plc5 3 years ago
I wish you would have talked more about lipolysis and ketoacidocis. They are a necessary component to the Atkins Diet but many people are not aware or do not understand them. I have lost 14% of my weight over the past 5 months on
Atkins and suffered with obesity for over 12 years. Also, if you do not get enough calories in your diet, you will go into starvation mode and your body will hold onto its stored fat for dear life! I wish you would have talked about its influence on your study. TY
vzamaze 3 years ago 2
First of all ketoacidocis ist NOT part of the atkins diet, it is a complication involved in having diabetis.
The condition you go throug in Phase I of the Atkins diet is called ketosis, which is a normal and natural shift in metabolism your body goes throug either in carb restriction or in starvation ( in order to tap your body fat). It is neither unhealty nor unnatural.
It's merely uncommon today since we are eating too many carbs which is the real reason for obesity.
disorganiserimp 2 years ago 5
I think you misunderstood my comment. I am a supporter of the Atkins diet. Please try reading it again now that you have corrected the term for the state of the body using stored fat for energy. Replace "ketoacidocis" with "ketosis".
vzamaze 2 years ago 2
Oh you're right, sorry.
Seeing the word ketoacidocis and atkins diet in one paragraph triggers something in me ;)
disorganiserimp 2 years ago
And not to mention reason for type 2 diabetes.
lordmetroid 2 years ago