@ultimavman You'll also note that all of the heroes in this series have a decidedly more dark nature than the villains, whom seem more light themed in nature. I think the reason for this is the old deceptive looks concept. That which may seem evil is really acting in the best interest while that which seems kind may in fact be cruelty disguised.
Is there any "truth" in looks alone? One must take two paths to arrive at the truth, IE look at both arguments and weigh them properly.
1:41 It's pretty obvious Big Fau was designed for naval combat, but I really don't see the practicality of a waterborne mecha. Big Duo, maybe, but I'm not seeing it here. Maybe just because it's cooler that way.
@EmperorChupacabra Well, if the enemy tried to send a fleet of ships at you, a giant robot that was designed for underwater combat would be very useful.
This anime was badass cause its has the old school Mecha concepts and deep meaning other than just senseless fighting (alot of anime have stupid reasons behind why they fight now), not all this Spiritual Power bullshit they're running now (not that Gurren Laggan ain't good) with dumb backstories D<.. the only fault with this particular anime i can think of is that Roger Smith's memories/flashbacks remains unsolved. Like that vision of Big O, Big Duo, and Big Fau destroying Paradigm City
Roger was sent in 3 times to negotiate with Alex/Angel (the director). 6:40 he dies the first time. 2nd time he becomes a TV star 7:19. 3rd time to negotiate is this series. 7:31 he realizes the memories he sees are the rewrites. The book was never completed 5:32. "The revealation that the universe is a simulated reality." is a half truth. As their lives are based off of the book. There is no such thing as 40 years prior being they were brought to existence at that point & time in the book. =)
And I guess this anime is trying to sum up (TRYING) is that What is real to you is what you make it, sometimes. The sometimes could be viewed as "more than one truth".
@krkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkx Big O and Roger Smith "The Black Guy" black suits, black megadeus; Alex Rosewater and Big Fau "The White Guy" white suits, white megadeus.
At first I thought he was referring to Dastun as the black guy... but it confused me as he didn't really look like a black guy... kinda tan maybe...French Moroccan perhaps...
but then it was obvious the second time I heard it. I hit myself.
6:37 i bet some of you are wondering who or what that megadeus is,it's called Big Venus it's designs is almost identical to Big O, with the exception of a redesigned, albeit similar, face and a pair of wings it is shown to have in a flashback to the Event. Also it appears when Angel realizes her role in Paradigm City and transforms into Big Venus!
big venus went berserk and made everything the way it was at the begining. and the people of paradime dont remember anything but the foreigners do thats why they attacked. for revenge
WHAAAAAAAT THE FUUUUUUUUUCKIS GOIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGG OOOOOOONNNNNN!!?!?!??!] rlegv]bpeqpl gktvq] btk o4epbkj q4etkjb j[4 bjoe4 jt [qj I'm gonna need to watch this one at least 3 times
Omg...I think I finally get it. Angel is the author/director of the 'play' of the entire story of Roger, and all the others in the city. And all the 'actors' are robots, though they do not know this? And uh...I suppose the moral would be how Roger and Dorothy are living life the way THEY want to? Uh...yeah. XD;
Angel is basically an "author-insertion." You pretty much got it on the dot.
They're not robots though, they are human... in a sense. A "paradigm" is a way of showing something in it's most rudimentary form.
Basically the people who were living in were "actors," carrying out Angel Rosewater's story.
Eventually the "actors" became self-aware, and the key player "Alex Rosewater" hired the negotiator "Roger Smith" to continue on with the show even as it hit the climax.
The robots were actually part of the story, and the episode of Roger the wanderer was the play outside the play.
Shwardswald was a character that came to the realization that their world was a stage on top of a stage.
The ending was to show that paradigm city is no longer set on the stage and that Roger successfully negotiated with Angel. The show continues on, but without it being "on the stage"
IcePrincess, no Roger isnt a robot. Those robots you were seeing that looked like Roger were action figures. You see that there's a Dorothy action figure there aswell.
Robots are only the andriods like R.Instro, R.Fredrick O'Reilly, and R.Dorothy Wayneright (Dont know why they all have "R" before the name. Must be for "Robot"?)
That doesn't really prove that he isn't though. that machine was mass producing robots not toys. Their structure proves that. no toy is built that way or that big.there is a roger toy but those robots are the real deal.Although i'm not saying he's a robot.
I thought those were action figures (there being a Dorothy action figure at 7:22) since Roger was cloned like the tomatoes. (Atleast Im pretty sure he was cloned anyway.)
From what i understand those are action figure skeletons that the mold goes around , and Roger lost his memory due to the shock of finding out the world was a stage the first time , and didnt want to remember anything about it , it seemed to painfull , so like he says near the end "he most likely erased them of his own will"
I think it's just supposed to convey the idea of mass production. That no one's really themselves...just a copy or one in a thousand. It's just meant to be disturbing imagery.
This series end can really be summerized like this: "Everything you thought you knew is wrong, and no you're not getting another explanation because Season 3 isn't coming out."
Fuck what you know. You need to forget about what you know, that's your problem. Forget about you think you know -- about life, about friendship, and especially about you and me. :P
It seems that Roger's vision was of the Event 40 years ago and that copies of both Big o and himself were mass produced. Roger made a contract with Gordon Rosewater to stop Big Venus (Angel) from destroying the city, that is to say, to nagotiate with the Director. Evidently the copies were inferior, nagotiations failed and the city was reset, but perhaps only partly reset.
So Wait, clear up the memories for me please. Was the memories Roger seeing from past Paradigm Citys that went wrong? Such as Roger lying dead in a destroyed Big O that would have happened to him if Dorothy didn't come to save him?? I am so confused.
well hell yeah you probably would've gotten an explanation about roger and the big o's being mass produced in season 3 IF THE DVD SALES WEREN'T SO LOW...
0:02-0:06 INCEPTION!!
realityisDEAD98 3 months ago
my reaction to this series. is beck's reaction to this series.
motrinman19 3 months ago
This episode has always been one of my favorites, despite the ending being a bit confusing to me. ...but, nevertheless, this series is intelligent.
Also, when Beck is talking about the "Black Guy" and the "White Guy", I believe he was talking about Big O and Big Fau.
ThePhantomOfTheOpry 4 months ago
LMFAO THE BLACK GUY AND THE WHITE GUY LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
YashPwnter 7 months ago
0:00-0:08 INCEPTION :0
Seaction8 8 months ago 2
does every good series have to mind screw you in the end
t260y 11 months ago
6:42 What does that MEAN??? I'M STILL REALLY CONFUSED!!
kenkarsonn 1 year ago
@kenkarsonn
heres a guy who explains everything... well most of it at least
he explains most of the episodes and a lot of confusing things like the elevator floor number 666 and angel with her plucked wings
ultimavman 6 months ago
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ultimavman 6 months ago
@ultimavman
kiserai . net / bigo /
ultimavman 6 months ago
@ultimavman You'll also note that all of the heroes in this series have a decidedly more dark nature than the villains, whom seem more light themed in nature. I think the reason for this is the old deceptive looks concept. That which may seem evil is really acting in the best interest while that which seems kind may in fact be cruelty disguised.
Is there any "truth" in looks alone? One must take two paths to arrive at the truth, IE look at both arguments and weigh them properly.
chimamiresatoh 3 weeks ago
3 people are rotten tomatoes.
kenkarsonn 1 year ago 2
@kenkarsonn i see what u did there ;D
alchemisted89789 11 months ago
1:41 It's pretty obvious Big Fau was designed for naval combat, but I really don't see the practicality of a waterborne mecha. Big Duo, maybe, but I'm not seeing it here. Maybe just because it's cooler that way.
EmperorChupacabra 1 year ago
@EmperorChupacabra Well, if the enemy tried to send a fleet of ships at you, a giant robot that was designed for underwater combat would be very useful.
TheCrimsonChao 11 months ago
I hate how Angel overtook the show. By this point in the series she's actually a bit of a Mary-Sue.
EmperorChupacabra 1 year ago
"People subconsciously create these memories" 3:59 door slams and the room, having nobody to see it, disappears.
Anon5241 1 year ago
This anime was badass cause its has the old school Mecha concepts and deep meaning other than just senseless fighting (alot of anime have stupid reasons behind why they fight now), not all this Spiritual Power bullshit they're running now (not that Gurren Laggan ain't good) with dumb backstories D<.. the only fault with this particular anime i can think of is that Roger Smith's memories/flashbacks remains unsolved. Like that vision of Big O, Big Duo, and Big Fau destroying Paradigm City
DemonSonic889 1 year ago 2
"What's happening to my world?"
Deepes question evah!
OmegaDude22 1 year ago
7:49 Thats how I feel!
cyclos12 1 year ago
haven't watched this show in 7 years, I'm confused
isaacopedal 1 year ago
Wait. What. Mother of God. So, Roger is a robot, Big Os, Big Duos, and Faus were mass-produced, and I just saw the flatiron building?!
Haruverse 1 year ago
such a super complex series, and I feel like Beck right about at 3
andredanielgiant 1 year ago
Roger wanted Dorothy's lips on his mouth. He has a hard-on for that android. LOL!
wildalb 1 year ago 6
At least she didn't have the piano, Roger.
TheSecretLover 1 year ago
"you're such a louse Roger Smith"
Boxiloid3000 2 years ago
Roger was sent in 3 times to negotiate with Alex/Angel (the director). 6:40 he dies the first time. 2nd time he becomes a TV star 7:19. 3rd time to negotiate is this series. 7:31 he realizes the memories he sees are the rewrites. The book was never completed 5:32. "The revealation that the universe is a simulated reality." is a half truth. As their lives are based off of the book. There is no such thing as 40 years prior being they were brought to existence at that point & time in the book. =)
azeron112 2 years ago 11
yeh she represents satan
philipanakwue 2 years ago
5:23 look Light Hawk Wings!
SR71ABCD 2 years ago
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SR71ABCD 2 years ago
Does anyone know the theme song playing in the back ground?
clow66 2 years ago
@clow66 Stoning
KaiLancer 1 year ago
omg 6.37............ thats the guy in the very end i think
Titanbran 2 years ago
0:12 Angel has pointy ears like an elf or Vulcan. Also, 666? Is that suggesting something?
ytmndman 2 years ago
And I guess this anime is trying to sum up (TRYING) is that What is real to you is what you make it, sometimes. The sometimes could be viewed as "more than one truth".
blues03 2 years ago
If you send me to the bottom of the sea I'm going to take you with me!!!!
SR71ABCD 2 years ago
I don't really get what's going on, but I still love this anime.
zambimaru 2 years ago
Roger.
Rygith 2 years ago
"I hate them. Both of them -- the black guy and the white guy!" LOLWUT
krkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkx 2 years ago 45
Yeah I was like LOLWUT too.
Pistbag 2 years ago
Thats what I thought also!
Ilovemariofan 2 years ago
@krkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkx because they pick on the yellow guy
mikey724 1 year ago
@krkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkx I think he meant by saying he hates Roger black tux and Alex the white tux.
fife007 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@krkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkx u idiot get out of here!
KaramelLolaBunnie91 3 months ago
@krkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkrkx Big O and Roger Smith "The Black Guy" black suits, black megadeus; Alex Rosewater and Big Fau "The White Guy" white suits, white megadeus.
At first I thought he was referring to Dastun as the black guy... but it confused me as he didn't really look like a black guy... kinda tan maybe...French Moroccan perhaps...
but then it was obvious the second time I heard it. I hit myself.
chimamiresatoh 3 weeks ago
6:37 i bet some of you are wondering who or what that megadeus is,it's called Big Venus it's designs is almost identical to Big O, with the exception of a redesigned, albeit similar, face and a pair of wings it is shown to have in a flashback to the Event. Also it appears when Angel realizes her role in Paradigm City and transforms into Big Venus!
khmcalister 2 years ago
When all the memories start flooding back its all so dramatic. so good.....so sad....so crazy!!!
MomokoFaust 2 years ago
Starting 6:21. great music. i always loved it. GAH! why does it have to end?!
MomokoFaust 2 years ago
megadeus are weapons created for war
people like rojer were used to controll them
war got out of hand with everything destroyed
big venus went berserk and made everything the way it was at the begining. and the people of paradime dont remember anything but the foreigners do thats why they attacked. for revenge
gstylez1806 2 years ago
ok guys
angel is big venus
venus has the power to change rality around
the whole of paradime is a stage
and it is supposed to be reset
idk why
the android is just another piece of the big o
gstylez1806 2 years ago
THIS WORLD IS CALLED ANIME!!!
RandomGeek12 2 years ago
Anyone recognize that building as the one Beck tried to get Big O to jump from into the sea?
Agonysis 2 years ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
3:33 proves he is a racest!
pieguy1516 2 years ago
Siavash119 3 years ago
Maybe more than that... A lot more.
Dragonslayer9 2 years ago
i believe we are all actors doing our parts that we are assigned by god.
Mephiles55510 3 years ago 3
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GranFury440 3 years ago
the person who plays "Roger Smith" sort of sounds like "Darcia" from "wolf's rain"
RyokaAndSaya 3 years ago
it is the same guy (Steven Blum)
Tekami 3 years ago
Also plays Toudou in Code Geass
BrogannHoward 2 years ago
so wait at 6:13 to 6:30 were the other robots besides the bigs trying to protect the people so confused
2realforthem2 3 years ago
so what? This an anime about characters who at the end found out they were in an anime??? o.o I'm so confused T-T
AlicesTeaCup 3 years ago
crow boy...
InToonamIsLegacy 3 years ago 2
Omg...I think I finally get it. Angel is the author/director of the 'play' of the entire story of Roger, and all the others in the city. And all the 'actors' are robots, though they do not know this? And uh...I suppose the moral would be how Roger and Dorothy are living life the way THEY want to? Uh...yeah. XD;
DorothyxRoger FOR THE WIN!
darlingzooloo 3 years ago 4
Angel is basically an "author-insertion." You pretty much got it on the dot.
They're not robots though, they are human... in a sense. A "paradigm" is a way of showing something in it's most rudimentary form.
Basically the people who were living in were "actors," carrying out Angel Rosewater's story.
Eventually the "actors" became self-aware, and the key player "Alex Rosewater" hired the negotiator "Roger Smith" to continue on with the show even as it hit the climax.
Shinokyouku 3 years ago
The robots were actually part of the story, and the episode of Roger the wanderer was the play outside the play.
Shwardswald was a character that came to the realization that their world was a stage on top of a stage.
The ending was to show that paradigm city is no longer set on the stage and that Roger successfully negotiated with Angel. The show continues on, but without it being "on the stage"
Shinokyouku 3 years ago 2
Ok, that makes more sense. XD Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. ^_^
darlingzooloo 3 years ago
small erata.
when i said alex I meant Gordon, the old guy
Shinokyouku 3 years ago
If you didn't understand, you're not going to do anything with it..
InToonamIsLegacy 3 years ago
so your saying that they are now living real lives?
zordon75 3 years ago
Yeah pretty much...
The biggest eyecatcher was that the sky appeared, and the remnants from the Big O-Big Faul battle still linger via the giant building
The smallest detail that you can't see due to youtube quality, is that Dorothy is no longer an android, given that her eyes are now "colored"
Shinokyouku 3 years ago
No, she's definitely still got android eyes - I have the DVD and you can see it plainly.
yllaille 3 years ago
OMG. An army of Big O. Imagine the possibilities. Floor 666 at 4:48
Riku006 3 years ago
Guy on roof:"I hate them both, the black guy and white guy!"
Wow...what a racist >_>
Tensazangetsu100 3 years ago 2
he means the big-o and big-fau, one is black and one is white. Too much symbolism for it to be as simple as a rascist comment.
t04s7 3 years ago 3
t04s7's right.
zaconator 3 years ago
IcePrincess, no Roger isnt a robot. Those robots you were seeing that looked like Roger were action figures. You see that there's a Dorothy action figure there aswell.
Robots are only the andriods like R.Instro, R.Fredrick O'Reilly, and R.Dorothy Wayneright (Dont know why they all have "R" before the name. Must be for "Robot"?)
VicMatt7 3 years ago
That doesn't really prove that he isn't though. that machine was mass producing robots not toys. Their structure proves that. no toy is built that way or that big.there is a roger toy but those robots are the real deal.Although i'm not saying he's a robot.
artisticbadguy 3 years ago
I thought those were action figures (there being a Dorothy action figure at 7:22) since Roger was cloned like the tomatoes. (Atleast Im pretty sure he was cloned anyway.)
VicMatt7 3 years ago
From what i understand those are action figure skeletons that the mold goes around , and Roger lost his memory due to the shock of finding out the world was a stage the first time , and didnt want to remember anything about it , it seemed to painfull , so like he says near the end "he most likely erased them of his own will"
SonicXtr3me 3 years ago
I think it's just supposed to convey the idea of mass production. That no one's really themselves...just a copy or one in a thousand. It's just meant to be disturbing imagery.
yllaille 3 years ago
Wait a minute, I don't get it! Is he a robot or something?! This anime is so confusing!
iceprincess955 3 years ago
what is the name of this bgm playing from 6:14to 7:35 called........pls.....anyone out there...give me the name of this bgm.
travylle 3 years ago
I don't really like endings full of mental breakdowns. What a drag they are.
scantyrevery 3 years ago
the black guy and the white guy! hahaha
lightlord99 3 years ago
well damn, guess he just hates everything.
If I had the finances, i would finance a 3rd season.
Hiei2k7 3 years ago 2
This series end can really be summerized like this: "Everything you thought you knew is wrong, and no you're not getting another explanation because Season 3 isn't coming out."
aazh 3 years ago
Fuck what you know. You need to forget about what you know, that's your problem. Forget about you think you know -- about life, about friendship, and especially about you and me. :P
scantyrevery 3 years ago
It seems that Roger's vision was of the Event 40 years ago and that copies of both Big o and himself were mass produced. Roger made a contract with Gordon Rosewater to stop Big Venus (Angel) from destroying the city, that is to say, to nagotiate with the Director. Evidently the copies were inferior, nagotiations failed and the city was reset, but perhaps only partly reset.
92abcdefg 3 years ago
Yes......clones......to pilot all of those Big O's
CaramelNate 3 years ago
So Wait, clear up the memories for me please. Was the memories Roger seeing from past Paradigm Citys that went wrong? Such as Roger lying dead in a destroyed Big O that would have happened to him if Dorothy didn't come to save him?? I am so confused.
EuphGuy19 3 years ago
that would pressurize the chamber but it would definitely kill roger smith.
marktse 3 years ago
angel's voice over is faye valentine? right? haha faye and spike. angel and roger!
lackadaizic 3 years ago 2
dorothy and rodger ... thats mad obvious
lol
....i hope they bring this show back wit new episodes
photonarbiter 4 years ago 7
roger likes dorothy :D
mouth to mouth LOL
gaiahalo 4 years ago 8
Man did he say he wanted mouth to mouth and does that mean that big o was just a big army.
musha7 4 years ago 6
well hell yeah you probably would've gotten an explanation about roger and the big o's being mass produced in season 3 IF THE DVD SALES WEREN'T SO LOW...
VolvagiaFreak 3 years ago
so what the hell was watching over paradigm city?
Beyondthemech923 4 years ago
Us.
DrBrazil1 4 years ago 20
Wait, so you mean we were watching them, as in the people who watch this show and the animators? o.O
The4Horsemen7Angels 3 years ago
some people say life is a stage, and we are actors.
ever hear of that metaphor? apply to this setting and bickety bam.
InvaderSlusk1994 2 years ago
Angel: How?
Gordon Rosewater: He is the One.
DeusExMachina10001 4 years ago 2
haha
GeneralOlde 4 years ago
sign the big o season three petition
Deadthewanderer 4 years ago
Yay i knew she would come back to life. roger is so funny wanting "mouth to mouth" with dorothy xD. Roger and dorothy forever ^w^
WisdomCourage13 4 years ago 9
Man this is the third time ive seen the ending of this show and I still dont get it.
Grimmy15 4 years ago 4
water pressure, anyone?
Ragafusion 4 years ago 3
Ooooo... Dorothy in a diver's suit. Haha. Roger wanted mouth to mouth.
Hoffyman 4 years ago 8
Que?
acleme1709 4 years ago
Alex Rosewater has lost his marbles. He was so jealous of Roger Smith that he got his own megadeus. Pathetic.
MasteroftheForce1337 4 years ago 3
Props to Dorothy for even being able to scream without any sort of inflection.
DeusExMachina10001 4 years ago 2