When you turn the filter amount (cutoff) it sounds quite stepped. I heard it stepped on a different video demo. Anyway, maybe something wrong with my ears, this should be smooth.
Sorry if this is a stupid question - but how do you make that resonance follow your notes? Isn't the res just amplifying the cut off freq? It sounds insane! Have watched (listened) to this video over a hundred times at least :D
@Longuncattr Aye I kind of figured it out as well, but I'm still not sure what the relation is between the notes and the cutoff freq. Do you? I tried this on a soft synth and with the notes I used it only sounded good when I put the cutoff at 1.1 KHz. I understand the basics of keyboard tracking but I'm wondering how it's calculated or whatever... I tried googling without succes :<
im really twisting my head around buying this thing, or buying the mopho, the only concern I have is I can't figure out how many VCO"s this thing has, it is possible to run 2 waveforms at the same time or not?
DE has exactly one VCO. (Actually DE is ONE VOICE for polyphonic synthesizer) Waveform Switch selects point on the circuit where oscillation is being passed to next modules. You can also get some cute modulations with PWM, VCF LFM etc.
@Popoldabboy I don't know what "sub bass hip-hop style " is but yes the DE can deliver very profound sub bass. I use it very often to create low end basslines with mainly pure sinewave.
@Popoldabboy: Usually good lead instrument is also good bass instrument. Both instrument type requires fatness. I can't call DE's envelope generator too great, but it can make short attack and punch.
@krakatoa47 yes. all dsi products are DCO's (digitaly contriolled ocilatiors) this has VCO's (voltage controlled ocilators) also you will probably rip your hair out trying to program the mopho
Nice. Reminds me of the classic Moog which has always been a favorite of mine. This thing sounds beautiful, thick and rich you can almost taste the sound.
it's quite low-frequency from 0:18 to 0:27 or so, and at 0:38 to 0:57 there's a nice bass underneath everything that comes back in at 1:14 for a little as well.
а вот вопрос возник, может ли быть самодостаточна вот такая музыка? (есть же фигнерстайл на гитаре, но гитара полифоник..) или это совсем на любителя (как соляки Зорна на саксе) (да и наверное состязание - чтоб мелодия не становилась пересоленным соло - другое дело когда много слоев.. =) )
Смотря для чего. Даже фрагмент из сандтрека к этому видео можно использовать в рекламе, телепередаче, может быть даже в мультфильме или фильме, но не думаю, что он от этого становится полноценным произведением хотя-бы потому, что одноголосый. Боюсь, одноголосые пьесы не слишком интересны. Но я подозреваю, что при наличии хотя-бы пэда или ещё одного монофоника консонирующего с первым, можно теоретически представить себе целостное произведение для синтезатора хотя-бы как этюдик.
Добавлю: у меня в сегодняшнем видео партия играется всего-лишь одной рукой на клавиутары, но машина позволила нарастть вокруг мотива сложные текстуры, или если угодно, фигурации. Мне кажется, уже похоже на произведение.
i agree with bluelzzzs,this is by far the best demo for dark energy.But i have two questions which i hope you can provide an answer for.I am ordering a virus ti2 and im wondering if dark energy would be compatible with a virus ti2 and if so would dark energy sound good with the virus ti2?
I didn't work with so many modules and ican't say how good some module sounds with other module.
Virus is digital modeling instrument. So you can use one of these modules as the effect processor for other one. Also you can use it as any other MIDI modules with DAW or keyboard.
@009relic1. You should get Roland SH-2, it is same sh09 but with 2 oscilators, much better than sh09 and better than Dark Energy. Roland SH-2 is one of the best bass synth in history.
Especially love 0:30 to 0:40. I just got one of these and I'm going to have to copy your setting as best I can to get this tone. Nicely done, and nice melodic lines. Brilliant--well done!
looking for a small synth to add to my live setup, i would connect it to a ribbon controler (the doepfer one) for some theremin-type leads... even without a glide control is it possible to obtain nice glissando leads?
there should be no problem. In fact, ribbon bar is large slider potentiometer and it gives continuous impedance. Internal control circuit converts low output voltages to 1v/oct scale, eliminates possible non-linearity and finally produces normal CV output. There's no source of quantization on this link.
Of course, you can hammer-on new note or slide to it like on fret.
Later you can purchase Doepfer Theremin controller for A-100 and get authentic feeling.
oh my lord i know . . that is the best part. is there a track that uses this part? after hearing this part in the video i have decided i am getting one of these for christmas, !!!!! i am so grateful to have the most awesome parents in the world who would love to help me out with one of these. can't wait to get one and learn the ins and outs of it :) thank you man
Thanks for posting this! Your video, along with a couple of others on youtube, convinced me to buy a DARK ENERGY and I'm really enjoying making music with it! Thank you and good luck with your music!
Sounds pretty sweet mannn, as I am new to this sorta instrument I'm just wondering what would be a better buy, the Dark Energy and a Midi Keyboard or something like a MicroKorg??
It completely depends on the way you're going to use such kind of instrument. Dark energy is either effect or lead or bass synthesizer for minimalistic, vintage or deep electronic sound. It may fit when you need to control every property of sound during performance. At the same time Microkorg may generate more complex sound, has 4-voice polyphony and can store presets but sounds very commonly and has much worse flexibility.
@rpocc Thanks a lot for your help, I think what I'm looking for is something much more this sorta thing over the Microkorg, just wanted to your opinion! :)
i'm trying to understand how DE works, if i connect my midi keyboard to a daw and then to DE, how do i recored the sound bring modulated bu DE? will the modulation play through a DAW or what? sorry, i'm new to this.
I'm quite not sure what do you exactly want. All possible connections depend on your soundboard capabilities.
Normal way:
* Record MIDI events to MIDI track (In to keyb.'s Out)
* Play it back (Out to MIDI port/USB and then to DE)
* Record sound from DE's Audio Out on DAW audio track simultaneously.
You can even play back mono audio track on DAW, send it to DE's Ext. Audio In and return processed sound back to new mono track and also control some parameters via MIDI if needed.
thanks for your reply!!! when i have extra money i will buy this to plug into a motif or virus will see how it will change the sound of digital synth.. have nice day!!
Yes, you can. USB used as MIDI interface. SO you can connect keyboard to PC, record your MIDI part, playing it on module simultaneously. Though i don't recommend use USB-MIDI, it can cause annoying latency.
Thank you. But does the latency problem apply also when you connect it through usb and sequence it in midi in DAW, or just when you want to play it through a midikeyboard connected through midi?
Just wondering if I should need a new soundcard with midi-ports before I buy the Dark Energy.
@bohemenmann: It is complex issue. USB interface is asynchronous and have low interrupt priority in operating systems. Because of it you MAY encounter sync and latency problems in some case. Moreover there's various behavior of sync using either DAW's or external or WinMM MIDI clock generation source even with semipro/pro PCI and 1394 audio/MIDI-interfaces. I think you can try module on your current setup and buy interface later if needed. Latency will be not so horrible for non-pro application.
Your little Videos made me bought this little Fella. I have tested the A100 Modular System from a Friend of mine but i don't liked the Sound of the Standard VCOs and Filter that much. But the DE really got me. (Other parts?) Anyway...Nice Demo! Playing some expressive tones is always better than blabla...
Glad to hear it! I didn't examine internals of DE, but i heard that it's VCO is identical to A-110. But DE has different VCA that can apply some integration of kind of little waveshaping to signal.
I'm not sure i understand you right, but it's no actuall matter what keyboard you're using, MIDI or analog CV/Gate (scale can be fine adjusted via internal trimmer and you can make synth a bit out of tune for more fat sound in mix). At least you can use internal soft-arpeggiator using MIDI keyboard.
Ah, i see, you mean keyboard-synthesizer. Of course DE can add some warmness to composition if used in right manner. I use it for leads from time to time and as filter-box for bass-guitar.
HI, great video! I'm a guitarguy looking into this thing for some homerecording. I got a USB midi keyboard and a macbook pro with garage band and an apogee duet. will it work with this setup or will I need another midi controller / signal creating device? does it work with an audio source, ie could I run a guitar signal from an amp though it?
You have great set up! This should be enough to play module with keyboard. DE's audio input has sufficient sensivity to pre-amplify guitar signal, and Audio Out is already attenuated to line level. (i also use module as LFOed filter for bass)
But please note that it's impossible to to turn inernal oscillator completely off. The perfect way i found to eliminate it is to make osc. work beyond audible range like a kind of tape AC Bias circuit:
impressive sound creation! do you control it by MIDI, or where do you get the melody and rythm from? sorry for this maybe trivial question, I'm new to the field of electrionic generated sounds and very interested
Yes, in this video it controlled via MIDI. It has built-in converter very similar to MCV-4 unit, transforming MIDI-messages to control voltages and Gate impulses. (But theres some insignificant differences between them).
Sounds great! Love it when you crank up the resonance and it's self oscillating, real good sounding synth that! Wish it had a second OSC mind you I'm sure you could patch a second sound source from another synth or something right?
@vinyljunkie07 yes, its completely ready for more modules, im starting to build my modular synth, but ill use the dark energy as a base for it. so i can patch other things into and from the de. you could patch cv1 out into external vco, use lf1out to modulate that external vco, that vco into ext. audio to pass it through the filter, and voila, you have 2 vco's
You're welcome. I'm totally agree with your words. It's quite tricky to find analogue synth demo without same non-self-explainable bleeps and glitches. By the way, do you know that it has oboard slew limiter and it's easy to add glide control just with external pot?
There is a red cable connected to the audio input and a grey cable connected to the envelop output. Do these cables have any function in this demo ? Is everything we hear the pure dark energy and the memory man or are any other sound sources ?
This is the most impressing demo of the dark energy i´ve ever heard. Please tell me witch one of the electro harmonix delays you´ve used ? Deluxe memory man, Memory Boy or Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai ? Thanx
It completely depends on your play style. If you really need real-time control on every sound, all of theese frequency modulations etc, try this one or 500-Euro 3-oscillator MFB synth ( i dont remember exact model name). But if you're planing to play some classic synth sounds, control just zutoff and pair of other parameters you should try something digital with PRESETS!, e.g. Waldorf Blofeld. Low-cost 24-voice digital polysynth I used one on Pink Floyd tribute party.
Thanks for your fast answer! The thing is I would like a monophonic synth not polyphonic, with all those controls on sounds just like on the good old analog moog synthesizers. I play in a 70's style rock band and my old Hammond just isn't enough.
No we play rock wiht a little bit of funk, groove, blues, jazz influences. Sadly we don't have a real record yet, just some demos. I am a complet beginer about monophonic synths, I never had one, but I always wanted one for playing solos. I think it shouldn't be a problem with setting the sounds once you figure out how to set a few of your favorites. Would you recomend it to me as a poor man's minimoog?
Minimoog has 3 oscillators while Doepfer has only 1, note this! Take a look on MFB Kraftzwerg - it looks cheap but listen to demos. 3 oscillators are really nice. If i had more money and patience to order it at the time when i got purchased Doepfer, i would prefer MFB!
If you're beginner in a substractive synthesis, monophonic synths etc i suggest you to try to mess around with some virtual devices.
And about blofeld. It has polyphony but all classic monophonic synth features such as portamento, non-retriggering envelopes, simple thin sounding are possible because although it is substractive synth. I use it in rock context. Is has DSP block providing reverbs, delays and choruses, even multitimbral and matrix modulation behavior.
A virtual synth is a good advice for begining and they aren't expensive. I will check the MFB. It's just hard to decide what to buy if you don't have a lot of experinces and you don't want to get burned. Maybe a microkorg wouldn't be a bad idea for the begining, they are quite cheap.
EEEH I am confused :)
Well you surtnly helped me alot!
Thank you for all you answers and have a good time!!
Oh! I've forgot the last one that my friends have: Vermona M.A.R.S. It is out of production, but it's very good sounding analogue monophonic 1U rack-size module with presets capability. We got one with 2U controller extesion (MIDI programmer) for only 500 bucks! Only problem — we encountered malfunctino during live work and even toasted up his processor. I think it is due to bad power supply in russian clubs.
At other side, really nice feature of Dark Energy is it's audio Input. But please note: you can NOT completely turn off it's oscillator. Even in pulse with minimal width some buzz leaking to VCA and VCA itself is quite noisy. I've discovered all this things during filtering of bass guitar with this module.
Buy the way. Synth has no portamento knob! Althoug you can add your own somewhere: it has special pins inside but look at the panel — where to place it? On the side like some cheap DYIer? :)
When you turn the filter amount (cutoff) it sounds quite stepped. I heard it stepped on a different video demo. Anyway, maybe something wrong with my ears, this should be smooth.
dvamateur 6 days ago
Wonder if you could monkey rig that with a guitar.
CCRockit 1 week ago
great self oscillation
cm0s 3 weeks ago
nice tune with a really great patch you got there around 0:38 !!
jithutimothy 2 months ago
0.40 Sweet patch mate - You've made my mind up im going to get one of these bad boys!
hooligram 2 months ago
@hooligram Yeah, the 0:40 sound is really great, with the delay applied... really great...
theeltea 2 months ago
Au moins, voila un bon test, on sait ce que l'appareil a dans le ventre, c'est sympa. Bien joué
FREDDO71 3 months ago
delicious sounds
ministeroftuba 3 months ago
im saving for one £350 what a steal
ayolewistv 3 months ago
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I this really the sound of the dark energy?
microphlexx 3 months ago
That sent shivers down my spine
GurtTarctor 3 months ago
Judging by this vid this is one of the nicest sounding modern analogue synths I've heard, I'm tempted especially if theres a special deal on it growl
NickSBailey 4 months ago
definitely hear my Matrix-1000 here...but in mono! (i wish the matrix had a dedicated mono mode..and a less glitchy midi buffer!)
0e0 4 months ago in playlist Synth Demos
Wonderful sounds with your dark energy Leads eye love it
MZound100 4 months ago
Sorry if this is a stupid question - but how do you make that resonance follow your notes? Isn't the res just amplifying the cut off freq? It sounds insane! Have watched (listened) to this video over a hundred times at least :D
ssssn 4 months ago
@ssssn The Dark Energy's VCF section has a switch that activates "key tracking" at either 0%, 50% or 100%.
Longuncattr 4 months ago
@Longuncattr Aye I kind of figured it out as well, but I'm still not sure what the relation is between the notes and the cutoff freq. Do you? I tried this on a soft synth and with the notes I used it only sounded good when I put the cutoff at 1.1 KHz. I understand the basics of keyboard tracking but I'm wondering how it's calculated or whatever... I tried googling without succes :<
ssssn 4 months ago
@ssssn I don't know any more about it than you, sorry.
Longuncattr 4 months ago
Makes me wanna travel space & smoke a fattie.
sickoe93 4 months ago
the sweet reverb... what device is it?
theblackfluid 6 months ago
Thank you for this cool demo! At last some musically meaningful material aside from all the uninspired noodling in the other videos :)
FordTweedle 6 months ago
this video got me inspired to use my dark energy again - i've not looked into it enough :( thanks!
cazmo222 6 months ago
WOW, that's a killer resonant lead at 0:33! Love it.
raistaparta 7 months ago
@raistaparta : If you dig that type of sound, I'd suggest that you have a look at the Roland SH-1000.
Scories77 6 months ago
My favorite part was from 00:36 - 00:47 :)
Spraybesj 7 months ago
well done! nice vid ;)
multimike127 7 months ago
im really twisting my head around buying this thing, or buying the mopho, the only concern I have is I can't figure out how many VCO"s this thing has, it is possible to run 2 waveforms at the same time or not?
koekhapper 7 months ago
@koekhapper:
DE has exactly one VCO. (Actually DE is ONE VOICE for polyphonic synthesizer) Waveform Switch selects point on the circuit where oscillation is being passed to next modules. You can also get some cute modulations with PWM, VCF LFM etc.
rpocc 7 months ago
@koekhapper me too actually
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iromeku 8 months ago
anyone else overly obsessing for this thing?
Xend54 8 months ago
Can you get sub bass hip-hop style with this?
Popoldabboy 8 months ago
@Popoldabboy I don't know what "sub bass hip-hop style " is but yes the DE can deliver very profound sub bass. I use it very often to create low end basslines with mainly pure sinewave.
lordoid 8 months ago
@Popoldabboy: Usually good lead instrument is also good bass instrument. Both instrument type requires fatness. I can't call DE's envelope generator too great, but it can make short attack and punch.
rpocc 8 months ago
It's sounds great dude! A little beat 80's Moroder style but I like it!
Popoldabboy 8 months ago
is this a better value than the dsi mopho?
krakatoa47 8 months ago
@krakatoa47 yes. all dsi products are DCO's (digitaly contriolled ocilatiors) this has VCO's (voltage controlled ocilators) also you will probably rip your hair out trying to program the mopho
Xend54 8 months ago
Nice. Reminds me of the classic Moog which has always been a favorite of mine. This thing sounds beautiful, thick and rich you can almost taste the sound.
scotty 9 months ago
The highlights of this video were the low end sounds - lol!!!
fimpson 9 months ago
@fimpson:
I'm quite confused. Where did you seen the low end?
rpocc 9 months ago
@rpocc
it's quite low-frequency from 0:18 to 0:27 or so, and at 0:38 to 0:57 there's a nice bass underneath everything that comes back in at 1:14 for a little as well.
YeggmanX 8 months ago
@rpocc he might have meant the 0:40 sound, which is played in the low notes...
theeltea 2 months ago
а вот вопрос возник, может ли быть самодостаточна вот такая музыка? (есть же фигнерстайл на гитаре, но гитара полифоник..) или это совсем на любителя (как соляки Зорна на саксе) (да и наверное состязание - чтоб мелодия не становилась пересоленным соло - другое дело когда много слоев.. =) )
qishmish 9 months ago
@qishmish:
Смотря для чего. Даже фрагмент из сандтрека к этому видео можно использовать в рекламе, телепередаче, может быть даже в мультфильме или фильме, но не думаю, что он от этого становится полноценным произведением хотя-бы потому, что одноголосый. Боюсь, одноголосые пьесы не слишком интересны. Но я подозреваю, что при наличии хотя-бы пэда или ещё одного монофоника консонирующего с первым, можно теоретически представить себе целостное произведение для синтезатора хотя-бы как этюдик.
rpocc 9 months ago
@qishmish:
Добавлю: у меня в сегодняшнем видео партия играется всего-лишь одной рукой на клавиутары, но машина позволила нарастть вокруг мотива сложные текстуры, или если угодно, фигурации. Мне кажется, уже похоже на произведение.
rpocc 9 months ago
This or the Slim Phatty??? Help me out!
aw5omeFRAZA 9 months ago
@aw5omeFRAZA BOTH!
mindstormsabrewin 9 months ago
i agree with bluelzzzs,this is by far the best demo for dark energy.But i have two questions which i hope you can provide an answer for.I am ordering a virus ti2 and im wondering if dark energy would be compatible with a virus ti2 and if so would dark energy sound good with the virus ti2?
TheBusinessisgood 9 months ago
@TheBusinessisgood :
I didn't work with so many modules and ican't say how good some module sounds with other module.
Virus is digital modeling instrument. So you can use one of these modules as the effect processor for other one. Also you can use it as any other MIDI modules with DAW or keyboard.
rpocc 9 months ago
Thanks to this demo, i sold my Mopho to buy a DE.
I just don't regret it.
yopdiesel80 10 months ago
is this synth better then say a roland sh-09? thanks. i'm deciding...:)
009relic1 10 months ago
@009relic1. You should get Roland SH-2, it is same sh09 but with 2 oscilators, much better than sh09 and better than Dark Energy. Roland SH-2 is one of the best bass synth in history.
haikousei 10 months ago
would you take this over a roland SH-09? thanks for your advice.
009relic1 10 months ago
absolutely love 0:38 to 0:48 chills down my spine CRYSTAL CASTLES MUCH? gawd these things are gorgous. in sound and looks as well
xXDAVIDROWEXx 11 months ago 5
Especially love 0:30 to 0:40. I just got one of these and I'm going to have to copy your setting as best I can to get this tone. Nicely done, and nice melodic lines. Brilliant--well done!
JeffHallPlaysFenders 11 months ago
@JeffHallPlaysFenders:
Thanks for your response!
rpocc 9 months ago
Absolutely fantastic sounding :)
adisharr 11 months ago
Absolutely brilliant !
All the Best
Synth-Project
SynthProject 11 months ago
Nice indeed, did you set the filter kboard traking to 100% ?
Sounds great.
javiceres 11 months ago
@javiceres :
Yeah, it is moogly 1v/oct cutoff tracking.
rpocc 9 months ago
@rpocc Sweet result -_^
javiceres 9 months ago
what have you patched to the external audio?
RobotAndTheDEAMON 1 year ago
@RobotAndTheDEAMON Ж
On this clip - nothing.
rpocc 1 year ago
Man, this Doepfer is dope!
saintneko 1 year ago
how would it sound with digital delay? (that one in roland sp 404 for example) ?
qishmish 1 year ago
WOW great sounds!!!! very fat.
SynthEnslaved 1 year ago
Hello Is it possible for me to use with my bass, if i get adaptors for the input?>?>?
craigwoodify 1 year ago
@craigwoodify
Yep, you can but ith some limitations. See other comments for additional info.
rpocc 1 year ago
Sounds IMPRESSIVE
Frejus87 1 year ago
looking for a small synth to add to my live setup, i would connect it to a ribbon controler (the doepfer one) for some theremin-type leads... even without a glide control is it possible to obtain nice glissando leads?
mynmyself 1 year ago
@mynmyself:
there should be no problem. In fact, ribbon bar is large slider potentiometer and it gives continuous impedance. Internal control circuit converts low output voltages to 1v/oct scale, eliminates possible non-linearity and finally produces normal CV output. There's no source of quantization on this link.
Of course, you can hammer-on new note or slide to it like on fret.
Later you can purchase Doepfer Theremin controller for A-100 and get authentic feeling.
rpocc 1 year ago
0:30 - 0:45 is fucking unreal.. would love to hear the full song if there s one with that synth
MCDEVVOMAN 1 year ago 12
@MCDEVVOMAN
oh my lord i know . . that is the best part. is there a track that uses this part? after hearing this part in the video i have decided i am getting one of these for christmas, !!!!! i am so grateful to have the most awesome parents in the world who would love to help me out with one of these. can't wait to get one and learn the ins and outs of it :) thank you man
humanedeephouseman 4 months ago
Vermona lancet
skrapadelix 1 year ago
aWESOME SOUND AT 36-48s
mrdanster 1 year ago
awesome sound. Dying to by one.
korizamusicvideo 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this! Your video, along with a couple of others on youtube, convinced me to buy a DARK ENERGY and I'm really enjoying making music with it! Thank you and good luck with your music!
AndroidStroll 1 year ago
Man this is great ! Is that old ? Can i buy one ? If how much ?
merlinchanelle 1 year ago
@merlinchanelle:
Take a look at doepfer.de, Google. It is new gear available for purchase.
rpocc 1 year ago
@merlinchanelle musicstore.de
MCDEVVOMAN 1 year ago
Sounds pretty sweet mannn, as I am new to this sorta instrument I'm just wondering what would be a better buy, the Dark Energy and a Midi Keyboard or something like a MicroKorg??
Thanks a lot!!!!!
ChrisMaybeNextTime 1 year ago
@ChrisMaybeNextTime:
It completely depends on the way you're going to use such kind of instrument. Dark energy is either effect or lead or bass synthesizer for minimalistic, vintage or deep electronic sound. It may fit when you need to control every property of sound during performance. At the same time Microkorg may generate more complex sound, has 4-voice polyphony and can store presets but sounds very commonly and has much worse flexibility.
rpocc 1 year ago
@rpocc Thanks a lot for your help, I think what I'm looking for is something much more this sorta thing over the Microkorg, just wanted to your opinion! :)
ChrisMaybeNextTime 1 year ago
Tangerine Dream!
That is all.
metabog 1 year ago
0:32 - 0:45 zweet sound!
Gameboygenius 1 year ago 2
i'm trying to understand how DE works, if i connect my midi keyboard to a daw and then to DE, how do i recored the sound bring modulated bu DE? will the modulation play through a DAW or what? sorry, i'm new to this.
OnCall101Villa 1 year ago
@OnCall101Villa:
I'm quite not sure what do you exactly want. All possible connections depend on your soundboard capabilities.
Normal way:
* Record MIDI events to MIDI track (In to keyb.'s Out)
* Play it back (Out to MIDI port/USB and then to DE)
* Record sound from DE's Audio Out on DAW audio track simultaneously.
You can even play back mono audio track on DAW, send it to DE's Ext. Audio In and return processed sound back to new mono track and also control some parameters via MIDI if needed.
rpocc 1 year ago
sounds very moog-ish. do you know if its clock can be used with a modular system?
LogicBoards 1 year ago
@LogicBoards
Which clock do you mean? LFO, MIDI->Gate etc? Mostly it all compatible with any modular system.
rpocc 1 year ago
thanks for your reply!!! when i have extra money i will buy this to plug into a motif or virus will see how it will change the sound of digital synth.. have nice day!!
onlinemusicnews 1 year ago
Can I plug it into the computer using USB, and then play it from a midi-keyboard?
bohemenmann 1 year ago
@bohemenmann:
Yes, you can. USB used as MIDI interface. SO you can connect keyboard to PC, record your MIDI part, playing it on module simultaneously. Though i don't recommend use USB-MIDI, it can cause annoying latency.
rpocc 1 year ago
@rpocc
Thank you. But does the latency problem apply also when you connect it through usb and sequence it in midi in DAW, or just when you want to play it through a midikeyboard connected through midi?
Just wondering if I should need a new soundcard with midi-ports before I buy the Dark Energy.
bohemenmann 1 year ago
@bohemenmann: It is complex issue. USB interface is asynchronous and have low interrupt priority in operating systems. Because of it you MAY encounter sync and latency problems in some case. Moreover there's various behavior of sync using either DAW's or external or WinMM MIDI clock generation source even with semipro/pro PCI and 1394 audio/MIDI-interfaces. I think you can try module on your current setup and buy interface later if needed. Latency will be not so horrible for non-pro application.
rpocc 1 year ago
@rpocc
Thank you very much. I will consider buying a Dark Energy then, love the sound of it!
bohemenmann 1 year ago
Your little Videos made me bought this little Fella. I have tested the A100 Modular System from a Friend of mine but i don't liked the Sound of the Standard VCOs and Filter that much. But the DE really got me. (Other parts?) Anyway...Nice Demo! Playing some expressive tones is always better than blabla...
lordoid 1 year ago
@lordoid:
Glad to hear it! I didn't examine internals of DE, but i heard that it's VCO is identical to A-110. But DE has different VCA that can apply some integration of kind of little waveshaping to signal.
rpocc 1 year ago
0:33 sounds kind of BoC ish
stoplightelectro 1 year ago
what do you think if i buy this to use it with a digital keyboard.... do you think it will add a lot of warm to the synth??
onlinemusicnews 1 year ago
@onlinemusicnews:
I'm not sure i understand you right, but it's no actuall matter what keyboard you're using, MIDI or analog CV/Gate (scale can be fine adjusted via internal trimmer and you can make synth a bit out of tune for more fat sound in mix). At least you can use internal soft-arpeggiator using MIDI keyboard.
rpocc 1 year ago
Ah, i see, you mean keyboard-synthesizer. Of course DE can add some warmness to composition if used in right manner. I use it for leads from time to time and as filter-box for bass-guitar.
rpocc 1 year ago
Excellent demo. This is a beautiful sounding synth.
stuthomson 1 year ago
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Excellent !
88MAXIMAL 1 year ago
At 0:37 I actually said 'wow'..
..sweet as bro'!
**starts copying the setup to his own DE**
td6d 1 year ago
Thanks for posting ;-) Great demo
kellyssa3 1 year ago
HI, great video! I'm a guitarguy looking into this thing for some homerecording. I got a USB midi keyboard and a macbook pro with garage band and an apogee duet. will it work with this setup or will I need another midi controller / signal creating device? does it work with an audio source, ie could I run a guitar signal from an amp though it?
cheers mate!
christopherzberlin 1 year ago
@christopherzberlin:
You have great set up! This should be enough to play module with keyboard. DE's audio input has sufficient sensivity to pre-amplify guitar signal, and Audio Out is already attenuated to line level. (i also use module as LFOed filter for bass)
But please note that it's impossible to to turn inernal oscillator completely off. The perfect way i found to eliminate it is to make osc. work beyond audible range like a kind of tape AC Bias circuit:
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rpocc 1 year ago
@rpocc great thanks!!! just shot one on ebay!! your video sold it to me! ;-)
christopherzberlin 1 year ago
1. Connect MIDI to DE's MIDI Out
2. Connect DE's Gate Out to OSC CV In
3. Set OSC Octave switch to highest state
4. Set PW pot to max.
5. Set waveform switch to Pulse state
6. Press and hold highest C during all record time
7. ...
8. PROFIT!
rpocc 1 year ago
0.38 to 0.44 is awesome
MrFaceHead 1 year ago
dude 00:37 - 00:44 - loop that shit!!
sexy sounds! i want one!!
drinkmusik 1 year ago 2
impressive sound creation! do you control it by MIDI, or where do you get the melody and rythm from? sorry for this maybe trivial question, I'm new to the field of electrionic generated sounds and very interested
granzl 1 year ago
@granzl:
Yes, in this video it controlled via MIDI. It has built-in converter very similar to MCV-4 unit, transforming MIDI-messages to control voltages and Gate impulses. (But theres some insignificant differences between them).
rpocc 1 year ago
Sounds great! Love it when you crank up the resonance and it's self oscillating, real good sounding synth that! Wish it had a second OSC mind you I'm sure you could patch a second sound source from another synth or something right?
vinyljunkie07 1 year ago
@vinyljunkie07:
Yes, module has external audio input.
rpocc 1 year ago
@vinyljunkie07 yes, its completely ready for more modules, im starting to build my modular synth, but ill use the dark energy as a base for it. so i can patch other things into and from the de. you could patch cv1 out into external vco, use lf1out to modulate that external vco, that vco into ext. audio to pass it through the filter, and voila, you have 2 vco's
lolcat23 1 year ago
love that dog howling sound you got there.. pretty cool, the other reviewers for the Dark Energy don't do this synth any justice at all!!!
imababyshark 1 year ago
The demo I was expecting for ! Thank you so much.
Every one always do sequencing demos and never show the lead possibilities of their machine.
Thanks a lot !
TheLimiter 1 year ago
@TheLimiter
You're welcome. I'm totally agree with your words. It's quite tricky to find analogue synth demo without same non-self-explainable bleeps and glitches. By the way, do you know that it has oboard slew limiter and it's easy to add glide control just with external pot?
rpocc 1 year ago
excellent
weaponEX 1 year ago
@ 0:40 - NIIIICE!!!
jakobloekke 1 year ago
0:32
Sweetspot
gr8ape 1 year ago
@gr8ape
Oh yeah, 0:32—0:47 is my favourite moment. I love that retro-moogly-old-school presets.
rpocc 1 year ago 2
Man this sounds really good!
rapopescu 1 year ago 9
best demo of dark energy so far!
BlueIzzzs 1 year ago 18
@BlueIzzzs :
Thanks! I glad to know that vintage-style melodies and sound is enjoyed by people.
rpocc 9 months ago
There is a red cable connected to the audio input and a grey cable connected to the envelop output. Do these cables have any function in this demo ? Is everything we hear the pure dark energy and the memory man or are any other sound sources ?
derunam 1 year ago
In this one — no. Only memoty man and DE.
But it used in "Analogue Electronic Jam".
rpocc 1 year ago
This is the most impressing demo of the dark energy i´ve ever heard. Please tell me witch one of the electro harmonix delays you´ve used ? Deluxe memory man, Memory Boy or Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai ? Thanx
derunam 1 year ago
Thanks. Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai.
rpocc 1 year ago
cool to here something from this not sounding "expemental" .. it sounds sweet!
petersedin 1 year ago
I like the sound very much!!!
Could I use this as a stand alone synt conected to a midi keyboard for playing with my band ?
Becouse I can't afford a moog I am thinkin of buying one of these, would it be a god substitute?
Greetings from Slovenia!
zihcster 2 years ago
It completely depends on your play style. If you really need real-time control on every sound, all of theese frequency modulations etc, try this one or 500-Euro 3-oscillator MFB synth ( i dont remember exact model name). But if you're planing to play some classic synth sounds, control just zutoff and pair of other parameters you should try something digital with PRESETS!, e.g. Waldorf Blofeld. Low-cost 24-voice digital polysynth I used one on Pink Floyd tribute party.
rpocc 2 years ago
Thanks for your fast answer! The thing is I would like a monophonic synth not polyphonic, with all those controls on sounds just like on the good old analog moog synthesizers. I play in a 70's style rock band and my old Hammond just isn't enough.
zihcster 2 years ago
Something like prog/space rock? Do you have records?
About gear: Is it acceptable for you to set up manually every sound, draw patch diagrams on paper templates etc?
rpocc 2 years ago
No we play rock wiht a little bit of funk, groove, blues, jazz influences. Sadly we don't have a real record yet, just some demos. I am a complet beginer about monophonic synths, I never had one, but I always wanted one for playing solos. I think it shouldn't be a problem with setting the sounds once you figure out how to set a few of your favorites. Would you recomend it to me as a poor man's minimoog?
zihcster 2 years ago
Minimoog has 3 oscillators while Doepfer has only 1, note this! Take a look on MFB Kraftzwerg - it looks cheap but listen to demos. 3 oscillators are really nice. If i had more money and patience to order it at the time when i got purchased Doepfer, i would prefer MFB!
If you're beginner in a substractive synthesis, monophonic synths etc i suggest you to try to mess around with some virtual devices.
rpocc 2 years ago
And about blofeld. It has polyphony but all classic monophonic synth features such as portamento, non-retriggering envelopes, simple thin sounding are possible because although it is substractive synth. I use it in rock context. Is has DSP block providing reverbs, delays and choruses, even multitimbral and matrix modulation behavior.
rpocc 2 years ago
Woow this is a lot of informations :)
A virtual synth is a good advice for begining and they aren't expensive. I will check the MFB. It's just hard to decide what to buy if you don't have a lot of experinces and you don't want to get burned. Maybe a microkorg wouldn't be a bad idea for the begining, they are quite cheap.
EEEH I am confused :)
Well you surtnly helped me alot!
Thank you for all you answers and have a good time!!
zihcster 2 years ago
There's lots of gear around!
Korg vs Waldorf is Vocoder and and tiny keyboard vs patch space, women's bag size and large polyphony.
For me, Waldorf sohuld sound better, but we also were use Microkorg and found that it is not so bad for rock.
Another good one virtual is Clavia Micro-modular «brick». It has no controllers but onboard from MIDI-key may be used.
And finally, there is another price-efficient analogue module: Technosaurus Microcon II. Sounds very nice, but very simple.
rpocc 2 years ago
Oh! I've forgot the last one that my friends have: Vermona M.A.R.S. It is out of production, but it's very good sounding analogue monophonic 1U rack-size module with presets capability. We got one with 2U controller extesion (MIDI programmer) for only 500 bucks! Only problem — we encountered malfunctino during live work and even toasted up his processor. I think it is due to bad power supply in russian clubs.
rpocc 2 years ago
At other side, really nice feature of Dark Energy is it's audio Input. But please note: you can NOT completely turn off it's oscillator. Even in pulse with minimal width some buzz leaking to VCA and VCA itself is quite noisy. I've discovered all this things during filtering of bass guitar with this module.
Buy the way. Synth has no portamento knob! Althoug you can add your own somewhere: it has special pins inside but look at the panel — where to place it? On the side like some cheap DYIer? :)
rpocc 2 years ago
Very nice!
What external audio do you feed into the Dark Energy?
Tommy29nl 2 years ago
On this video it isn't any external signal. Some PWM by LFO causing Hard-sync effect and with delay making sound fat.
on other videos i feed Ritm-2 into ext. in as second oscillator (i bought few A-100 units later)
rpocc 2 years ago
Very nice.
I have a Dark Energy since a week.
Very nice machine. I can't wait to get a Dark Time sequencer.
You made a very nice demo. Always nice to hear what an instrument is capable of.
Tommy29nl 2 years ago
Then you have to glue synth and seq together :)
rpocc 2 years ago