Is this supposed to mock stupid conservatives who wouldn't know freedom if Charles Koch himself paid lobbyists to explain it to them in a television commercial using only two syllable words?
They might've come up with something funny if they had the first clue what the ACLU is about. If conservative Christian groups are having their rights violated, the ACLU will step in to defend them. They defended Rush Limbaugh against attempts to have his medical records made public. Ever notice how Limbaugh doesn't whine about them anymore like he used to?
ACLU gives legal victories to street gangs and internet corporations that harbor pedophile networks and the international child trafficking industry. They are limiting international law enforcement's ability to do anything about online human trafficking.
It's sad that this is how ACLU lawyers and many lawyers actually think. If you want to support lawyers who are really doing good things, check out the ACLJ. I'm surprised that the ACLU still exists even with as many Americans it offends. I should sue them because they are offensive to my personal beliefs.
If they're using public land, they mut be socialists. Better to sue the boy scouts than do the boy scouts--ah, those fine God fearing conservative scout masters.
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Boyscouts begin restricting access to their opportunities based on religious fundamentalism - just one more brick in the wall of bigotry America is coming to represent.
If you think defending equal rights is tyranny you'd be better off moving to Saudi Arabia.
NO, my idea of equal rights is for an organisation which the world over supports integration, maturity and equality, not be hijacked by a bunch of religious fundamentalists imposing their own unfounded ideological restrictions on otherwise harmless children. the same thing happened in Germany 60 years ago and it's my responsibility to honor the sacrifice my grandparents made to ensure that never happens again.
I am NOT the one imposing restrictions THAT if nothing else should be bloody obvious.
Odar, would you feel the same way about the boy scouts if they didn't allow black children to enter the program? The ACLU's argument is for civil liberties. If the boy scouts was a truly private organization, that discriminates based on sexual orientation and religious belief (against federal laws) then it cannot accept federal funding and hold its jamborees on military bases.
The governments of European countries, on the other hand, generally do have the authority to censor or even outright ban movies, tv broadcasts, etc. We can argue about whether that's a good thing, or whether it's a big deal (this censorship is usually done in response to vulgarity/violence/sex, not content, so it's relatively harmless) but it is less protection for the freedom of speech than the U.S. constitution provides.
Well you can't get your general opinions of all Americans from you tube. Unfortunately there are allot of idiots who spend more time behind a PC than out in the real world. But you have to remember our country was started buy oppression of it's people from English rule, so freedoms were very important. I choose not to let my kids watch bad things, until they can fully understand what there watching. Visit the U.S. one days and sample our freedoms, you may go away with a different opinion.
Adolf Hitler would have been better off if he had God in his like, Allot of Jews would be growing old right now. Religion is not bad, it's the one's who make it bad, because we only focus on the ones who mess it up for the rest of us. I don't hate a person because their gay, but I don't accept it in my way of life, yet I will treat them with respect. That's what Christians do! That's the great thing about free countries like America, believe what you want.
right. he was openly an atheist, but he dabbled in the occult. I wouldn't say he was religious either, but if you look some of things he said and did, you would see that he definitely wasn't a true atheist.
Its always so funny with u americans. U really think ure the only free country in the world. Most countries in Europe are just a free. MAny countries are even a lot freer than you are. One of the things u always like to brag about is that u have freedom of speech. First of all most countries in the western world do. Nothing unique about that. Secondly u are the least free country in the west when it comes to this. U censor your movies,tv, and press from bad words, sex etc..
The censorship you're referring to is not perpetrated by the government, the MPAA (a non-gonvernmental trade organization) rates movies, this can affect the commercial performance of a movie, but it's not really censorship per se (they can't outright force anyone to edit something out). TV "censorship" is performed by the networks themselves, not the government. The government can't really censor anything for the most part, that's called prior restraint and is unconstitutional.
@Isuckatpaintball2 Really Hitler was an Evolutionist. He believed that white colored skin, blue eyes, and blonde hair peoples were the most evolved of all peoples around the world, and Jews and others were primitive, unevolved people that needed to be "extinguished" so the world could be pure for the most evolved of species.
If the Mormons left the BSA the BSA would fold. Mormons make up over 50% and give more money then other organizations. If the BSA allows gays than the Mormons will leave.
And parents send their boys to learn about God(among a few other things), they DON'T want them coming home saying they've chosen to be homosexuals, because their counselor told them they should, and that it's cool.
I must say, I am rather astonished about the ignorence some ppl have left regarding the boy scouts.
First of all, IT IS A CCCHHHRIIISSTIAAAN ORGANIZATION!!! You have to make a plegde to God, who atheist clearly don't believe in. And furthermore, they would just try to change everything, and throw out all of the morals and values they teach.
I really don't know why atheists want to join a Christian organization anyways.
I'm a girl, I follow the boy scout law more than some of the boy scouts I know, and I'm not being a jerk because I can't join no matter how much I want to. If you really care that much about joining keep quiet about your religious views and your sexuality. Don't ask, Don't tell. Every time I hear a guy tearing down boy scouts, it makes me hurt inside because, chances are, he could join boy scouts if he wanted to. Thank god for venturing.
you can't "keep quiet about your religious views" in boy scouts. You have to claim to believe in god or you are not accepted. I know, I was there, I left because of this. Don't ask don't tell is one thing, making people lie or leave is another.
Hey you moron. The Boy Scouts get 0 government funding. The government has never given them money. Yet they are still the largest non profit in the country. They are charter by congress but any group can get charter by congress. There is 0 funding from the government. The Boy Scouts get all their money from the general public. Wrap your little mind around that.
In 2000 the Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts had the right to set their own leadership standards since they are a private organization and they don't receive public funding. The Boy Scouts decided that homosexuals do not meet the morally straight standard of life. So homosexuals can not be leaders. The Supreme Court case was against a homosexual and the ACLU they are pissed they lost to a conservative organization.
So you believe everything that is on TV. Wow you are an idiot. Bullshit is a satire program that got taken of the air becuase it was sladering organizations and groups. I did't say that homosexuals are immoral. What I said is you have to be morally STRAIGHT! I know plenty of gay Eagle Scouts. So yes gay kids are allowed.
The Boy Scouts are yet another NOBLE institution that has to be destroyed by the usual bohemians and other putzes. Scary how folks here think it's a GOOD thing.
Hitler was no more a Catholic than I'm black. Don't be an idiot by spewing that crap. Nazism (national SOCIALISM) is left-wing mob rule, NOT right-wing.
And there's no right any addict has to be tolerated or given consideration. There's nothing bigoted about not agreeing with faggotry.
Funny. I think they have the right to discriminate against behavior... I mean, what about arguing that they discriminate on gender? Surely they can decide what goes on in their own club.
No, the government shouldn't fund them. Unless maybe it's through the individual schools (government gives the schools flexibility to spend money on clubs that they want).
I don't think the fact that certain people allow them to have camping trips on their property for free is bad. But if it is the gov. making sure it happens then it's wrong.
Of course if the boy scouts are harming anything they deserve regulation.
But seriously, folks, the guy in this fake commercial is right. The Boy Scouts, as we know it, is a stain on America. Sure, it teaches some important values, but what about the "other" values it teaches: bigotry and discrimination? You can't be in their little gang if you're gay or atheist. WTF? The original boy scouts regulations said nothing about having to be straight and god-fearing. Besides, the main Boy Scout values are universal. You don't need to be straight or love God.
UMMMM, You're wrong. Baden Powel did require members of the original Brownsea Island to be faithful to their understanding of God. and as for homosexuals in scouting? Sexuality should be taught in the family house, not the scout house. Let Kids be kids for crying out loud
Obviously not all homosexuals are pedophiles, the same can be said of heterosexuals. But yes, lets treat all pedophiles and rapists as if they have an illness to be treated, and damn the consequences of their actions or the people whose lives they ruin.....Long live judge cashman right? He's the judge who ruled that a man who repeatedly raped a young child over a four period should only serve 60 DAYS in prison. Said he would benefit more from help than from jail..
Well no shit they exclude atheists. You have to believe in God to pledge On my honor to God and my Country. An atheists doesn't believe in God. Would you want someone in your organization that does believe in its core values. Second they discriminate against gay leaders not gay youth. You can't be a leader and gay. You can be a youth and gay. It is basically don't ask don't tell.
that shouldnt matter. If kids want to join they should let them. They also shouldnt exclude gay leaders. Just because they are gay doesnt mean they are pedophiles.
umm excluding someone for a reason like that is discrimination, which is illegal. The oath is bullshit, its just a bunch of words. You should watch penn and teller bullshit on scouting.
accept*. people wont leave you alone when its not right. If there was an orginazation that excluded christians because they were christian there would be an up roar. Why dont you show some damn acceptance?
The Supreme Court ruled we can discriminate against anyone we want. Why? Well because we are a private organization which you must pay to join. In regards to Bull shit I thought it was going off the air however it is back. The episode about the scouts is bullshit. If you believe everything you see on tv then you are a moron and you should sit on your thumb and spin.
I hate the Boy Scouts because they treated me like dirt during my one year in Cub Scouts. I was insulted, cussed out, and humiliated in front of my classmates. Most unforgiviably, the adult leaders actively cooporated in physical, parental child abuse. All this just because I didn't want to be part of your stupid organization. As far as I am concerned, the entire adult leadership in Washington, IN for the 1974-5 School Year can go straight to Hell.
There are groups like that already,it's call the ACLU! It has nothing to with the Boy Scouts,it's political motivated! ACLU is a tool to tear down traditional American conservative beliefs. It's platform mirrors the Communism manifestos almost word for word!Action speak louder then words! You ask for acceptance, but you offer none!
realy??? let me remind you that the ACLU has tried to tear down crosses in PRIVATE cemeteries. is that acceptance??? is that what that DAMN organization wants??? I dont think so
it should be noted that boy scouts don't let gays join, this is because it has been hijacked by all sorts of churches. this could only be allowed by a private organisation, but the Boy Scouts get a discount on staying at national parks as though they were a government institution. thats why the ACLU took up this case, to prevent US tax dollars from going towards disciminate organisations
The Boy Scouts don't get discounts at National Parks because they are Boy Scouts. They get the discount because they are a non profit organization. If you want the discount join Kiwanis, Lions, Rotary any non profit and take your group to the park hike 50-100 miles and camp for days on end. They also get discounts because they help clean the parks and keep the trails in good shape for hiking. Get your fact straight you morons.
I could go on and on and on about the ACLU but why? People are too stupid to actually educate themselves about this "Amerikan" organization. Visit: stoptheaclu . com to learn more.
The Truth: If you think the ACLU represents the average American values, then you are sadly misguided. Their absolutist views of liberty go far beyond what most people could ever support. They support the legalization of child porn distribution , and un-regulated prostitution. They are far from the traditional thoughts of patriotism, constantly defending Americas enemies, and fighting efforts of military recruiters
The Truth: Despite all the rhetoric over the current NSA program, where the ACLU opposes the U.S. listening to traitor's having conversations with terrorists, the ACLU has no room to talk when it comes to violating privacy.
The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders?
You know absolutely NOTHING about the ACLU. Anyone who would make a comment like "The ACLU's sole purpose is to defend these rights" exposes their ignorance. Here are some questions for you;
1. Do the Boy Scouts of America have rights?
2. Do Christians have rights?
3. Why does the ACLU defend a Muslims "right" to pray in a public school but denies anything Christian?
The ACLU stands for "Anti Christian Lawyers Union"
Nice Christian tone there, Moony. You have a right to pray on your own time. The ACLU fights for this, as they do all constitutionally guaranteed rights, whether you're Christian or Muslim. Private groups have these rights as well, though our constitution restricts public financing of religious activities. Read the Constitution, it's a beautiful document.
Got a copy of the Constitution. Have read it. My point was the ACLU WILL defend a Muslims right to pray in a PUBLIC school on my dime. But will not defend a Christians right to do anything. The ultimate goal of the ACLU is to change the American way of life and that means moving AWAY from core Christian beliefs.
Well, Mooney, if you Google "ACLU Michigan Religious Yearbook" or "ACLU Iowa Christian Literature", you find just a few instances of the ACLU supporting a student expressing their Christian veiws in school. Please tell me, how did you ever get such an unfair and unbalanced opinion that the ACLU "will not defend a Christians right to do anything"?
America owes everything to our Bill of Rights. The ACLU's sole purpose is to defend these rights. That's about as American as you can get. People who advocate torture, the suspension of habeas corpus, wiretapping Americans without judicial oversight, etc., are called terrorists. Which are you?
Americans who arouse enough suspicion to necessitate being placed under surveillance are called traitors. If the NSA's electronic surveillance program prevents traitors for enabling terrorists, I'm all for it.
People who are out for the destruction of this nation and it's people should not get ANY rights, let alone Habeas Corpus.
Oh my God Mooney, I can't believe you wrote that! In what way in Islam the biggest threat to the American way of life? Furthermore, and this is the scarry part, why do you feel the need to insult all Muslims?
Because it is what it is. Read the Quran and get to know your enemy. Islam wants world domination. PERIOD! A man once said "beware of those that come AFTER me speaking in my fathers name for they will have the power to sway many but are mearly a wolf in sheeps clothing." 750 years later the false prophet, Mohammed, is born. Fast forward to 2007 and we have approx. 2 billion Muslims in the world. Open your eyes and see where the problems are.
Why do I feel compelled to insult all muslims? Because I find Islam to be an insult.
Here's a question for you; name me one Islamic country where the people are free to express whatever they want to. Also, did you know that Christianity is ILLEGAL in Islamic countries?
Where does the Koran (or Qur'an) say the goal of Islam is "world domination"? And are you saying Islam is a threat because that one quote in the Bible and the fact that there are 2 billion Muslims? Furthermore, how does this make it the BIGGEST threat to American life?
Also, I can't think of any country where one is free to express WHATEVER they want. However, Turkey is a predominately Muslim country that has many of the same liberties we have here in the states.
Finally, Pakistan is an official Islamic state where Christianity is perfectly legal. Exactly where do you get your misinformation from?
Your right, I'm convinced. Islam is a peace loving tolerant religion as proven by the demonstrations across Europe after the cartoons depicting Muhammed. They really don't issue Fatwa's against anyone who would insult them (Salman Rushdie). It's all just a right-wing conspiracy to turn people against them.
They really don't execute women and children. More right-wing conspiracy. They really don't blow up planes and buildings. They don't hi-jack cruise ships. Wake up!
Turkey is a democratic, secular, unitary, constitutional republic whose political system was established in 1923 under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, following the fall of the Ottoman Empire in the aftermath of World War I. There is some more misinformation for you.
Mooney, it is sheer bigotry to judge over 2 billion Muslims for the actions of a few. From the Spanish Inquisition to the KKK, there are many examples of Christians who have committed many heinous actions in the name of their god. Why do you choose to quote Christian passages and demonize Islam when both religions have their share of insane fanatics? Aren't you equally insulted by Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Hugo Chavez?
Turkey is a democratic, secular, constitutional republic whose citizens are PREDOMINATELY MUSLIM. The two aren't mutually exclusive! In fact if you had read the ENTIRE Wikipedia article you would have read,
"Nominally, 94.0% of the Turkish population is
Please next time get all of the information before you decide to espouse illogical and prejudiced rhetoric. Then again, don't. Perhaps someone else reading this discourse may be enlightened by your ignorance.
Turkey is a democratic, secular, constitutional republic whose citizens are PREDOMINATELY MUSLIM. The two aren't mutually exclusive! In fact if you had read the ENTIRE Wikipedia article you would have read,
"Nominally, 94.0% of the Turkish population is Muslim."
Please next time get all of the information before you decide to espouse illogical and prejudiced rhetoric. Then again, don't. Perhaps someone else reading this discourse may be enlightened by your ignorance.
these people fired cannons at my home town walls in 1453 and still havent handed the town back. They turned out to be a rather large threat to the Greek way of life.
Gary, do we really want to go over all the towns Greeks have destroyed throughout history? More importnantly, as I stated earlier, you can't just an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. And bringing up events that have happened over half a millenium ago only makes you look petty.
The Boy Scouts is about family, faith and Country. It is about discipline, achievement, honesty and courage. Something that you obviously missed when you grew up. I feel sad for you. Godless comes to mind when I think of Hitler.
Ironic, my history book says he 'thought of Christianity as 'weak' and 'flabby'. He even shut down their(Catholic) churches, and silenced them. Some Catholic!
Is this supposed to mock stupid conservatives who wouldn't know freedom if Charles Koch himself paid lobbyists to explain it to them in a television commercial using only two syllable words?
eirefrance 1 month ago
They might've come up with something funny if they had the first clue what the ACLU is about. If conservative Christian groups are having their rights violated, the ACLU will step in to defend them. They defended Rush Limbaugh against attempts to have his medical records made public. Ever notice how Limbaugh doesn't whine about them anymore like he used to?
bukkler 7 months ago
ACLU gives legal victories to street gangs and internet corporations that harbor pedophile networks and the international child trafficking industry. They are limiting international law enforcement's ability to do anything about online human trafficking.
poodlesusan 1 year ago
It's sad that this is how ACLU lawyers and many lawyers actually think. If you want to support lawyers who are really doing good things, check out the ACLJ. I'm surprised that the ACLU still exists even with as many Americans it offends. I should sue them because they are offensive to my personal beliefs.
NoFaceNowThatsAce 1 year ago
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If they're using public land, they mut be socialists. Better to sue the boy scouts than do the boy scouts--ah, those fine God fearing conservative scout masters.
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GreenishScout 2 years ago
the aclcu attacks on the boy scouts is just one more brick on the wall of tyranny
gorgosalien 2 years ago
Boyscouts begin restricting access to their opportunities based on religious fundamentalism - just one more brick in the wall of bigotry America is coming to represent.
If you think defending equal rights is tyranny you'd be better off moving to Saudi Arabia.
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
MaxSafeheaD
so your concept of equal rights is to impose your beileifs by decree on a private organization such as the boy scouts?
that is not equal rights... that is tyranny,
ODAR410 2 years ago
NO, my idea of equal rights is for an organisation which the world over supports integration, maturity and equality, not be hijacked by a bunch of religious fundamentalists imposing their own unfounded ideological restrictions on otherwise harmless children. the same thing happened in Germany 60 years ago and it's my responsibility to honor the sacrifice my grandparents made to ensure that never happens again.
I am NOT the one imposing restrictions THAT if nothing else should be bloody obvious.
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
Odar, would you feel the same way about the boy scouts if they didn't allow black children to enter the program? The ACLU's argument is for civil liberties. If the boy scouts was a truly private organization, that discriminates based on sexual orientation and religious belief (against federal laws) then it cannot accept federal funding and hold its jamborees on military bases.
m4gnutz 2 years ago
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JenZoemobile 2 years ago
The governments of European countries, on the other hand, generally do have the authority to censor or even outright ban movies, tv broadcasts, etc. We can argue about whether that's a good thing, or whether it's a big deal (this censorship is usually done in response to vulgarity/violence/sex, not content, so it's relatively harmless) but it is less protection for the freedom of speech than the U.S. constitution provides.
number154 2 years ago
Well you can't get your general opinions of all Americans from you tube. Unfortunately there are allot of idiots who spend more time behind a PC than out in the real world. But you have to remember our country was started buy oppression of it's people from English rule, so freedoms were very important. I choose not to let my kids watch bad things, until they can fully understand what there watching. Visit the U.S. one days and sample our freedoms, you may go away with a different opinion.
ProAmerica07 2 years ago
The funniest part is that many parks and schools rely on the Boy Scouts to do a lot of their maintenance.
RobertGary1 3 years ago 2
Adolf Hitler would have been better off if he had God in his like, Allot of Jews would be growing old right now. Religion is not bad, it's the one's who make it bad, because we only focus on the ones who mess it up for the rest of us. I don't hate a person because their gay, but I don't accept it in my way of life, yet I will treat them with respect. That's what Christians do! That's the great thing about free countries like America, believe what you want.
ProAmerica07 3 years ago 2
adolf was a catholic
lolo2556 3 years ago
no...Hitler was an occultist. come on dude.
taymacjack 3 years ago 2
goebles was an occultist, hitler wasn't particularly religious IMO, although he did exploit it for political purposes.
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
right. he was openly an atheist, but he dabbled in the occult. I wouldn't say he was religious either, but if you look some of things he said and did, you would see that he definitely wasn't a true atheist.
taymacjack 2 years ago
Amen, Brother! (or Sister if you're a woman)
Talleyrand8230 3 years ago 2
Its always so funny with u americans. U really think ure the only free country in the world. Most countries in Europe are just a free. MAny countries are even a lot freer than you are. One of the things u always like to brag about is that u have freedom of speech. First of all most countries in the western world do. Nothing unique about that. Secondly u are the least free country in the west when it comes to this. U censor your movies,tv, and press from bad words, sex etc..
alexiuzzz 2 years ago
The censorship you're referring to is not perpetrated by the government, the MPAA (a non-gonvernmental trade organization) rates movies, this can affect the commercial performance of a movie, but it's not really censorship per se (they can't outright force anyone to edit something out). TV "censorship" is performed by the networks themselves, not the government. The government can't really censor anything for the most part, that's called prior restraint and is unconstitutional.
number154 2 years ago
@ProAmerica07 Hitler was actually a catholic and he used jews as a scapegoat and even called them "Christ killers"
Isuckatpaintball2 1 year ago
@Isuckatpaintball2 Really Hitler was an Evolutionist. He believed that white colored skin, blue eyes, and blonde hair peoples were the most evolved of all peoples around the world, and Jews and others were primitive, unevolved people that needed to be "extinguished" so the world could be pure for the most evolved of species.
NoFaceNowThatsAce 1 year ago
If the Mormons left the BSA the BSA would fold. Mormons make up over 50% and give more money then other organizations. If the BSA allows gays than the Mormons will leave.
cwood4ever 3 years ago
At least the ACLU are zombies in An American Carol!
JesusFreakAlchemist 3 years ago
A moment of it was funny but overall this show didn't even have any real jokes or commentary. "Gay dogs to marry".. WILD.
shocksyxx 3 years ago
This probably the first sketch I've seen that i found funny... Probably because of that patriotic music going while the bald guy bashes boy scouts...
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
And parents send their boys to learn about God(among a few other things), they DON'T want them coming home saying they've chosen to be homosexuals, because their counselor told them they should, and that it's cool.
masumi5 3 years ago
I must say, I am rather astonished about the ignorence some ppl have left regarding the boy scouts.
First of all, IT IS A CCCHHHRIIISSTIAAAN ORGANIZATION!!! You have to make a plegde to God, who atheist clearly don't believe in. And furthermore, they would just try to change everything, and throw out all of the morals and values they teach.
I really don't know why atheists want to join a Christian organization anyways.
masumi5 3 years ago 2
it hasnt always been a christian organization,
the boy scout discriminate just as heavily as the kkk
lolo2556 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wow, ignorance IS your strong suit.
Northgrant 3 years ago
do you even know what the fuck you're talking about?
mianus11 3 years ago
No they dont.
TheMadOrc 2 years ago
which comment are you referring to
lolo2556 2 years ago
Hitler was not catholic.
TheMadOrc 2 years ago
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"Hitler was not catholic."
Then why did he hate Jews?
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
oh God this was completely unfunny....
zenithomega19 4 years ago
the aclu likes it up the ass
americanpatriot1992 4 years ago
The only thing funny about this show is how bad it was.
dudelove3 4 years ago
I'm a girl, I follow the boy scout law more than some of the boy scouts I know, and I'm not being a jerk because I can't join no matter how much I want to. If you really care that much about joining keep quiet about your religious views and your sexuality. Don't ask, Don't tell. Every time I hear a guy tearing down boy scouts, it makes me hurt inside because, chances are, he could join boy scouts if he wanted to. Thank god for venturing.
MidnightMaelstrom 4 years ago 4
I agree with you 100%. I love the scouting and venturing program!
scoutingchick 4 years ago 2
Girls can join a Venturing Crew. The President of our Venturing Crew is a Girl.
BigOldScout 3 years ago
That's what I meant by thank god for venturing. I loved being in venturing. That's how I first got introduced to scouting in the first place.
MidnightMaelstrom 3 years ago
you can't "keep quiet about your religious views" in boy scouts. You have to claim to believe in god or you are not accepted. I know, I was there, I left because of this. Don't ask don't tell is one thing, making people lie or leave is another.
marisel76 3 years ago
Evilclown... buddy... compatriot... Its called, "satire." They are making fun of how utterly ridiculous the ACLU is, not the BoyScouts.
hyroglyphx 4 years ago 3
they also hate boyscouts because some of the greatest leaders in the nation were once boyscouts.
evilclown9911 4 years ago
the aclu doesn't like boyscout for a few reasons
1. they don't let Gays be troop leaders
2. boyscout got funding on foriegn mil. base not anymore thanks to..... you guessed it aclu
3. they really hate that boyscouts sell popcorn not cookies.
masterofrockets 4 years ago 2
This is completely misleading.
The ACLU is suing the bigot scouts not because of their religion, but because the GOVERNMENT is FUNDING them.
Don't force everyone to pay for the bigots
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
What level of government? If you know, this was the first time I've heard of this issue... just to show how much i know of it :(
LuvDreams 4 years ago
Hey you moron. The Boy Scouts get 0 government funding. The government has never given them money. Yet they are still the largest non profit in the country. They are charter by congress but any group can get charter by congress. There is 0 funding from the government. The Boy Scouts get all their money from the general public. Wrap your little mind around that.
scottiemtmd 4 years ago
In 2000 the Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts had the right to set their own leadership standards since they are a private organization and they don't receive public funding. The Boy Scouts decided that homosexuals do not meet the morally straight standard of life. So homosexuals can not be leaders. The Supreme Court case was against a homosexual and the ACLU they are pissed they lost to a conservative organization.
scottiemtmd 4 years ago
Homosexuality is immoral? Wow, you are a klansman lol. How's life in the 19th century goin for ya? You have a telephone yet? lol.
There is nothing "conservative" about bigotry.
You can call it whatever fancy name you want lol.
And it DOES discriminate against gay KIDS. It was proven on an episode of SHO's BULLSHIT
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
So you believe everything that is on TV. Wow you are an idiot. Bullshit is a satire program that got taken of the air becuase it was sladering organizations and groups. I did't say that homosexuals are immoral. What I said is you have to be morally STRAIGHT! I know plenty of gay Eagle Scouts. So yes gay kids are allowed.
scottiemtmd 4 years ago
OFF THE AIR? BWAHAAH
Where do you get your news? Fox?
Bullshit's 6th season is airing in JANUARY!
It hasn't been CANCELLED LMFAO.
You are hillarious!
Remember, the Onion is just satire! And Bullshit's not. Assuming you mean Penn and Teller Bullshit
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
The Boy Scouts are yet another NOBLE institution that has to be destroyed by the usual bohemians and other putzes. Scary how folks here think it's a GOOD thing.
Hitler was no more a Catholic than I'm black. Don't be an idiot by spewing that crap. Nazism (national SOCIALISM) is left-wing mob rule, NOT right-wing.
And there's no right any addict has to be tolerated or given consideration. There's nothing bigoted about not agreeing with faggotry.
cecilbdml 4 years ago
faggotry?
The far-right speaks for itself.
It's ashame that the GOP has been taken over by the fringe religious loonybin.
I remember when you guys were smart.
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
Funny. I think they have the right to discriminate against behavior... I mean, what about arguing that they discriminate on gender? Surely they can decide what goes on in their own club.
LuvDreams 4 years ago
Yes but they accept PUBLIC funds and PUBLIC favors!
I'm ok with the bigot scouts but NOT with the GOVERNMENT getting in bed with them
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
No, the government shouldn't fund them. Unless maybe it's through the individual schools (government gives the schools flexibility to spend money on clubs that they want).
I don't think the fact that certain people allow them to have camping trips on their property for free is bad. But if it is the gov. making sure it happens then it's wrong.
Of course if the boy scouts are harming anything they deserve regulation.
LuvDreams 4 years ago
But seriously, folks, the guy in this fake commercial is right. The Boy Scouts, as we know it, is a stain on America. Sure, it teaches some important values, but what about the "other" values it teaches: bigotry and discrimination? You can't be in their little gang if you're gay or atheist. WTF? The original boy scouts regulations said nothing about having to be straight and god-fearing. Besides, the main Boy Scout values are universal. You don't need to be straight or love God.
Whoo69 4 years ago
UMMMM, You're wrong. Baden Powel did require members of the original Brownsea Island to be faithful to their understanding of God. and as for homosexuals in scouting? Sexuality should be taught in the family house, not the scout house. Let Kids be kids for crying out loud
josefpmelech 4 years ago
the boy scouts excludeds atheists and homosexuals, fuck them.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
yeah you've got a point....let a bunch of homosexual pedophiles hang around with young boys in the woods.....great idea champ!
1proudneocon 4 years ago
You seem to not know that pedophilia is a sickness, and homosexuals dont do that to little kids. I was talking about being one of the boy scouts.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
Obviously not all homosexuals are pedophiles, the same can be said of heterosexuals. But yes, lets treat all pedophiles and rapists as if they have an illness to be treated, and damn the consequences of their actions or the people whose lives they ruin.....Long live judge cashman right? He's the judge who ruled that a man who repeatedly raped a young child over a four period should only serve 60 DAYS in prison. Said he would benefit more from help than from jail..
1proudneocon 4 years ago
homosexual CHILDREN you nut.
Camp couselors is a whole different thing.
The Bigot Scouts descriminate against gay KIDS
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
Well no shit they exclude atheists. You have to believe in God to pledge On my honor to God and my Country. An atheists doesn't believe in God. Would you want someone in your organization that does believe in its core values. Second they discriminate against gay leaders not gay youth. You can't be a leader and gay. You can be a youth and gay. It is basically don't ask don't tell.
scottiemtmd 4 years ago
that shouldnt matter. If kids want to join they should let them. They also shouldnt exclude gay leaders. Just because they are gay doesnt mean they are pedophiles.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
The point of Boy Scouts is to help boys better themselves. We have an oath and law in which most of us live by.
So what if we exclude atheists. They can always make their own organization similar to scouting.
This commercial calls BSA a paramilitary organization. THAT IS BULL SHIT. The national charter prohibbits camoflauge and drill instuction.
As far as I am concerned, if people dont like the things we do, then they should just LEAVE US ALONE.
evilclown9911 4 years ago
umm excluding someone for a reason like that is discrimination, which is illegal. The oath is bullshit, its just a bunch of words. You should watch penn and teller bullshit on scouting.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
like i said
if people have a problem with who we except as members, then they should just leave us alone
evilclown9911 4 years ago 2
accept*. people wont leave you alone when its not right. If there was an orginazation that excluded christians because they were christian there would be an up roar. Why dont you show some damn acceptance?
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
The Supreme Court ruled we can discriminate against anyone we want. Why? Well because we are a private organization which you must pay to join. In regards to Bull shit I thought it was going off the air however it is back. The episode about the scouts is bullshit. If you believe everything you see on tv then you are a moron and you should sit on your thumb and spin.
scottiemtmd 4 years ago
exactly my point
thx
evilclown9911 4 years ago
I hate the Boy Scouts because they treated me like dirt during my one year in Cub Scouts. I was insulted, cussed out, and humiliated in front of my classmates. Most unforgiviably, the adult leaders actively cooporated in physical, parental child abuse. All this just because I didn't want to be part of your stupid organization. As far as I am concerned, the entire adult leadership in Washington, IN for the 1974-5 School Year can go straight to Hell.
wardenphil 3 years ago
shut up you pansy
mianus11 3 years ago
There are groups like that already,it's call the ACLU! It has nothing to with the Boy Scouts,it's political motivated! ACLU is a tool to tear down traditional American conservative beliefs. It's platform mirrors the Communism manifestos almost word for word!Action speak louder then words! You ask for acceptance, but you offer none!
arubberball 4 years ago
actually I offer plenty of acceptance. But excluding someone just for their beliefs, of lack of beliefs is just wrong.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
realy??? let me remind you that the ACLU has tried to tear down crosses in PRIVATE cemeteries. is that acceptance??? is that what that DAMN organization wants??? I dont think so
evilclown9911 4 years ago
watch this video:
watch?v=6n7dAUnSBFg
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
fuck you,you gay hethan
mianus11 3 years ago
wow I take it you are a bigot? funny. And I'm not gay, I just want them to have the same rights.
ultimatedude1 3 years ago
They have the same rights.
TheMadOrc 2 years ago
I've watched several of the Half Hour News Hours clips on youtube. I enjoy them.
With each new clip I see I notice the same people leaving negative comments. Makes me wonder why they do that.
myhomeak 4 years ago
it should be noted that boy scouts don't let gays join, this is because it has been hijacked by all sorts of churches. this could only be allowed by a private organisation, but the Boy Scouts get a discount on staying at national parks as though they were a government institution. thats why the ACLU took up this case, to prevent US tax dollars from going towards disciminate organisations
poop4charity 4 years ago
Or maybe they don't let gays join because it's a "boyscout group"... Boy scout and gay don't mix well...
Criticalman 4 years ago
what?
poop4charity 4 years ago
The Boy Scouts don't get discounts at National Parks because they are Boy Scouts. They get the discount because they are a non profit organization. If you want the discount join Kiwanis, Lions, Rotary any non profit and take your group to the park hike 50-100 miles and camp for days on end. They also get discounts because they help clean the parks and keep the trails in good shape for hiking. Get your fact straight you morons.
scottiemtmd 4 years ago 2
Only liberals would do something this stupid.
gokux75 4 years ago
I could go on and on and on about the ACLU but why? People are too stupid to actually educate themselves about this "Amerikan" organization. Visit: stoptheaclu . com to learn more.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
8. It is a patriotic thing to support the ACLU.
The Truth: If you think the ACLU represents the average American values, then you are sadly misguided. Their absolutist views of liberty go far beyond what most people could ever support. They support the legalization of child porn distribution , and un-regulated prostitution. They are far from the traditional thoughts of patriotism, constantly defending Americas enemies, and fighting efforts of military recruiters
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
9. The ACLU Cares About Your Privacy Rights:
The Truth: Despite all the rhetoric over the current NSA program, where the ACLU opposes the U.S. listening to traitor's having conversations with terrorists, the ACLU has no room to talk when it comes to violating privacy.
The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders?
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
10. The ACLU is non-partisan:
The Truth: Not only were they founded on Communism, they are about as liberal an organization in existence.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
7. The ACLU Defends The Bill of Rights.
The Truth: The ACLU defends the parts of the Bill of Rights that are in line with its agenda. What about the second, ninth, and tenth amendment?
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
You know absolutely NOTHING about the ACLU. Anyone who would make a comment like "The ACLU's sole purpose is to defend these rights" exposes their ignorance. Here are some questions for you;
1. Do the Boy Scouts of America have rights?
2. Do Christians have rights?
3. Why does the ACLU defend a Muslims "right" to pray in a public school but denies anything Christian?
The ACLU stands for "Anti Christian Lawyers Union"
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
Nice Christian tone there, Moony. You have a right to pray on your own time. The ACLU fights for this, as they do all constitutionally guaranteed rights, whether you're Christian or Muslim. Private groups have these rights as well, though our constitution restricts public financing of religious activities. Read the Constitution, it's a beautiful document.
cobwebhead 4 years ago
Got a copy of the Constitution. Have read it. My point was the ACLU WILL defend a Muslims right to pray in a PUBLIC school on my dime. But will not defend a Christians right to do anything. The ultimate goal of the ACLU is to change the American way of life and that means moving AWAY from core Christian beliefs.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
Well, Mooney, if you Google "ACLU Michigan Religious Yearbook" or "ACLU Iowa Christian Literature", you find just a few instances of the ACLU supporting a student expressing their Christian veiws in school. Please tell me, how did you ever get such an unfair and unbalanced opinion that the ACLU "will not defend a Christians right to do anything"?
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Behind Islam, the ACLU is the biggest threat to the American way of life. The strangest thing is they both thrive on ignorance.
to: 'theBigTakeover' which are you, Muslim or an ACLU supporter?
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
America owes everything to our Bill of Rights. The ACLU's sole purpose is to defend these rights. That's about as American as you can get. People who advocate torture, the suspension of habeas corpus, wiretapping Americans without judicial oversight, etc., are called terrorists. Which are you?
cobwebhead 4 years ago
Americans who arouse enough suspicion to necessitate being placed under surveillance are called traitors. If the NSA's electronic surveillance program prevents traitors for enabling terrorists, I'm all for it.
People who are out for the destruction of this nation and it's people should not get ANY rights, let alone Habeas Corpus.
rtcj97 4 years ago
WTF?!?! Martin Luther and Coretta Scott King were placed under surveillance, so they must have been traitors too.
...such a moron.
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Oh my God Mooney, I can't believe you wrote that! In what way in Islam the biggest threat to the American way of life? Furthermore, and this is the scarry part, why do you feel the need to insult all Muslims?
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Because it is what it is. Read the Quran and get to know your enemy. Islam wants world domination. PERIOD! A man once said "beware of those that come AFTER me speaking in my fathers name for they will have the power to sway many but are mearly a wolf in sheeps clothing." 750 years later the false prophet, Mohammed, is born. Fast forward to 2007 and we have approx. 2 billion Muslims in the world. Open your eyes and see where the problems are.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
No other religion calls for the destruction of those that don't share their beliefs yet Islam does.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
Why do I feel compelled to insult all muslims? Because I find Islam to be an insult.
Here's a question for you; name me one Islamic country where the people are free to express whatever they want to. Also, did you know that Christianity is ILLEGAL in Islamic countries?
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
Where does the Koran (or Qur'an) say the goal of Islam is "world domination"? And are you saying Islam is a threat because that one quote in the Bible and the fact that there are 2 billion Muslims? Furthermore, how does this make it the BIGGEST threat to American life?
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Also, I can't think of any country where one is free to express WHATEVER they want. However, Turkey is a predominately Muslim country that has many of the same liberties we have here in the states.
Finally, Pakistan is an official Islamic state where Christianity is perfectly legal. Exactly where do you get your misinformation from?
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Your right, I'm convinced. Islam is a peace loving tolerant religion as proven by the demonstrations across Europe after the cartoons depicting Muhammed. They really don't issue Fatwa's against anyone who would insult them (Salman Rushdie). It's all just a right-wing conspiracy to turn people against them.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
They really don't execute women and children. More right-wing conspiracy. They really don't blow up planes and buildings. They don't hi-jack cruise ships. Wake up!
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
Turkey is a democratic, secular, unitary, constitutional republic whose political system was established in 1923 under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, following the fall of the Ottoman Empire in the aftermath of World War I. There is some more misinformation for you.
DaMoonshiner 4 years ago
Mooney, it is sheer bigotry to judge over 2 billion Muslims for the actions of a few. From the Spanish Inquisition to the KKK, there are many examples of Christians who have committed many heinous actions in the name of their god. Why do you choose to quote Christian passages and demonize Islam when both religions have their share of insane fanatics? Aren't you equally insulted by Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Hugo Chavez?
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Turkey is a democratic, secular, constitutional republic whose citizens are PREDOMINATELY MUSLIM. The two aren't mutually exclusive! In fact if you had read the ENTIRE Wikipedia article you would have read,
"Nominally, 94.0% of the Turkish population is
Please next time get all of the information before you decide to espouse illogical and prejudiced rhetoric. Then again, don't. Perhaps someone else reading this discourse may be enlightened by your ignorance.
RexMaximus 4 years ago
Turkey is a democratic, secular, constitutional republic whose citizens are PREDOMINATELY MUSLIM. The two aren't mutually exclusive! In fact if you had read the ENTIRE Wikipedia article you would have read,
"Nominally, 94.0% of the Turkish population is Muslim."
Please next time get all of the information before you decide to espouse illogical and prejudiced rhetoric. Then again, don't. Perhaps someone else reading this discourse may be enlightened by your ignorance.
RexMaximus 4 years ago
these people fired cannons at my home town walls in 1453 and still havent handed the town back. They turned out to be a rather large threat to the Greek way of life.
garygdaaaa 4 years ago
Gary, do we really want to go over all the towns Greeks have destroyed throughout history? More importnantly, as I stated earlier, you can't just an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. And bringing up events that have happened over half a millenium ago only makes you look petty.
RexMaximus 4 years ago
The boyscouts are modelled on the hitler youth, many similarities between them.
theBigTakeover 4 years ago
The Boy Scouts is about family, faith and Country. It is about discipline, achievement, honesty and courage. Something that you obviously missed when you grew up. I feel sad for you. Godless comes to mind when I think of Hitler.
JeffersDodge 4 years ago
I couldn't have said it better myself.
PiOfFive 4 years ago
Hitler was a catholic.
pizzaface212 4 years ago
So is Ted Kennedy....good one though!!!
swh114 4 years ago
Ironic, my history book says he 'thought of Christianity as 'weak' and 'flabby'. He even shut down their(Catholic) churches, and silenced them. Some Catholic!
masumi5 3 years ago 2
funny how he was supped by pope though isn't it
lolo2556 3 years ago
Hitler grew up in a catholic home, but didn't accept his families religious views. He was not a catholic!
mianus11 3 years ago 2
but he was supported by Pope Pius xii
lolo2556 3 years ago
Because the Pope was in his pocket!
Talleyrand8230 3 years ago
the pope lives where??? and who was hitler allies with in WWII? and which country was occupying occupying that area?
taymacjack 3 years ago