Evolution Ep6: The Mind's Big Bang (2/6)

[hippocripp]

Well evolution or creation or whatever...This is, if you watch and listen close, Something phenominal. The time scale for creation as we know now is a joke...but on evolution front It's human conscience showing up, on a geological or evolutionary scale totally unexplainable. for evolution to be correct it must move in and at a singular motion..it cannot by the laws of nature just happen all of the sudden.. Something happened here..this is a real find folks!!

[IamMohawk]

I believe all these time lines are 40,000 years off. The time lines are off in the respect of when we all left Africa, it was 40,000 years before first thought. Becouse my people, the native Americans were in America many, many years before first thought.

[ananiasacts]

I'm guessing it was their national treasury. Either that or God was into bling when He was a lot younger.

[babanovac0232]

I don't know about artefacts. It can be a commercial result, a prove about iter-species relations. But about neanderthal graves, neanderthal people deposed flowers in the graves, or decorated them with skulls of goats. This is a sign about their spiritual life. Excuse my poor english.

[BFGUITAR]

They may a huge mistake... Neanderthal art has been found.

[HighShippu]

If the maker is not charectrized by one of those: All-knowing, Al-willing, Eternal living and choosing then he is not eligible to make this universe and to be not made, which apparently applys on the nature and atom due to being unable to meet these conditios, nor any other creature to reach these conditions

[Blankfrack]

So Shitpoo; When are you going to answer the question I asked? If your Fallah made the Universe, and wrote the quran, in which it states that every living thing exists in pairs for mating, How do you explain the existence of the seahorse?

[Velox415]

Better yet, how do you explain the existence of those Arizona Collard lizards that have no males at all and only reproduce asexually. There's also a species of salamander like that. In general, there's actually numerous animals that can reproduce asexually.

[HighShippu]

So by that we must agree that behind the universe is a maker with eternal life, will, wisdom to make all this, All-knowing and choosing. Eternal is why he must be because if he weren't then the opposite applys and it is there is maker behind him, and behind that is also another which is endless and wrong.

[HighShippu]

And to those that *The world made itself*

I must say it is a error in both logic and language. If we said you made yourself, we made you before yourself to make yourself, and made yourself after you and that is just retarded.

[Velox415]

I find your raping of the English language retarded. Just WHAT are you trying to say?

Something to do with making myself? Well kind of, yes, once the sperm and egg met, there were 2 cells, then 4, etc, basically those cells that were dividing made myself. I assume your logic is that because animals need parents to create offspring the world needs a parent? A horrid analog, comparing apples to oranges; a planet is not a biological lifeform. It's called the Thoery of Gravity! Please look it up.

[WmnRights]

@Velox415

I see you managed to answer HighShippu's posts with more than just a simple post. Looks like you've gotten angry from his (retarded) comment to THAT extent. ~ Tee-hee

[HighShippu]

If I brought two ballons and blew gas in them and blow them up!! The gas will vanish and not gather even in space, so how did the gases gather?

And last but not least, from the gases and somke came all planets that are similar but EXCEPT the earth!!!! How is that?

[Velox415]

Your logic is fail. Again, please learn better English so people can understand what you trying to say. As for planets, even Wikipedia can help you learn how they formed. The gas giants are in the outter solar systems and have been found it others, but there are also rocky planets like Earth, Mars in particular, but Earth-like planets have been found in other solar systems too. Have you ever had a High School science class at all?

[HighShippu]

I have questions regarding the making of the universe from the big bang theory:

1-where did stars come from?

2where did the cosmic dust came from?

2-Physicists say that if there were two particules and a power of repulsion came in between, they don't collide. So how did they explode without colliding?

[HighShippu]

The big bang theory is tottaly unreasonable for it misses an actor behind it due to that

[HighShippu]

If you were one that says that nature made all, then I say it is logicaly impossible beause nature has no will so how can we say it is a creator?

You know that events can existe in scratch but if it became, there must be an actor behind it, and we cannot say that a thing with no will nor life nor wisdom brings the un-existing to existense

[HighShippu]

In logic, behind every event there is an actor.

Where is the actor behind the explosion?

Did it just decided to explode by itself?

Does a material with no will nor wisdom nor life, make the universe and in the same time be part of it??

[HighShippu]

How can I call it a maker while it is part of the universe?

It cannot be a maker and a creature at one time, there is something wrong with this theory

[HighShippu]

And how come that substance or material that made the uniuverse exists in creature and thing?

How can it become the maker and part of the creature all in one time?

[HighShippu]

How great this theory isn't it?

But I have a question that ticked me, how come the atom or the material that exploded and created all exploded? Didn't somone made it?

How can it make all this universe from gas and somke while even in space the smoke doesn't gather, it vanishes?

[Velox415]

Go do some research before spouting your bullshit please. In any case, none of this has anything to do with the Theory of Evolution. We could find out tomorrow the universe has always been static and unending and it wouldn't effect how scientists think about evolution of biological life forms.

[HighShippu]

Velox415

Really? My English is retarded? :S ..

Whatever. As long as you keep in mind that nothing pops out of nowhere, then it's fine by me to remain an atheist.

[Velox415]

Well it looks like you removed the comment I was referencing, in which you resorting to simplistic adjectives as attacks (which you are still doing, I see). My response was intended to counter your attack, pointing out you were no more "retarded" then the other person. In doing so I sank to your level, so my apologies.

[HighShippu]

And just because some fuzzy-haired geezer told you that (Evolution is a fact, your grandpa was a monkey) doesn't mean that its true! Comone! That sounds more like an religious dogma than a scientific approach!.

By the way, non BIAS scientists have proven that Evolution is nothing but a reaction towards religious institution, and that it is not related to science whatsoever.

[Pivotz7998]

Guys leave HighShippu. He is clearly mad that his genitalia cannot please his female monkey.

[Velox415]

The question is not what I have to keep in mind, but YOU. The Big Bang theory attempts to describe why the universe we see is expanding. It does not say where the matter came from, it says the matter was condensed and then expanded rapidly. The matter MAY have always been there.

Nothing popping out of no where also applies to you: where did your god come from, how did he make light pop out of nothing, and then the sun, and then give the light to the sun?

[HighShippu]

MAY is not a suitable answer, there is no MAY in facts, either you belief in it or you dump it. I am in no position at all to judge any person, that includes you of course. I simply used the principle (1+1) = (2), so I am dazzled by your response, I think everybody knew you're an atheist!

But lets leave that aside now, you've mentioned that (Many scientists are theists), I dare say the MAJORITY of scientists are theists, and those anti-theists are nothing but conspiracy pawns.

[Velox415]

And when did you become all-knowing and omnipotent that you dare to define me by your narrow views? When did I ever say I was atheist? You assume to much and you jump to conclusions. Many scientists ARE theists as well. You CAN be christian and accept science as well.

[HighShippu]

Just to let you know: Evolution has already been proven scientifically, impossible, unrealistic, demented, gibberish hallucination of a 70 years old Jewish geezer ..

YOU are the one who should try doing some research about that, and NOT from through Darwinists and nowadays Dawkinists' sources.

[Velox415]

Please show me in what peer-reviewed publication that evidence was presented to support your outrageous claims? You can't even get Darwin's religion right (or are you just a bigot?) Darwin was a CHRISTIAN. Outrageous claims require outrageous evidence and he had plenty. Evolution is a PROVEN FACT. To think otherwise is an impossible, unrealistic, demented, gibberish hallucination. It's the mechanics of it that we study today. "Darwinist" is a creationist made term. Many fields support evolution

[HighShippu]

Correction: Darwin was a Jew. You don't even know that? What kind of Darwinist are you? ^^

[Velox415]

Many fields support Evolution: biology, genetics, embryology, microbiology, etc. I know a great deal of what science says, and I know where the gaps are at present, but we continue to fill them in. Meanwhile you have repeatedly shown your ignorance of even the basic concepts of evolution as stated by scientists: the people who spend their entire lives studying this as opposed to a person with an opinion that decided "I don't want to be related to an ape, so I'll look for evidence against it"

[Velox415]

I don't particularly want to be related to an ape myself, I rather prefer wolves. Unfortunately science is not about what you want. Indeed I don't even "Darwinist" sources, I can go out myself and see how humans look like apes, even other mammals, since we share homologous features. The same for birds to dinosaurs. I was raised Christian but it's amazing what you can see if you decide for yourself. Just open your eyes and look at the POSSIBILITY of it.

[Velox415]

As I was saying, you show ignorance of the subject, by trying to relate evolution to the big bang. The "big bang" used here was a metaphor, which you would have seen if you had bothered to watch the show. Kind of like the "dance of life" etc. evolution says nothing how the big bang happened.

[Reido2828]

Evolution is beautiful:) It tells us that we have potential and that were here for a reason:):):):):):):):):):)

[roolsin12]

lol

[mcblazin]

I believe they made the beads as signs for affection for each other, showing the development of higher emotional responses as opposed to survivalists love expressed by animals. reminds me of the rave culture and their tokens they give each other, often referred to as candy. Emotion plays a more important role in human history than thought, but humans always try to express the past through thoughts...its boggling.

[raigekimaru]

I want to hear more about the earlier humanoids. the earlier humanoids. the idea of a partially human creature is fascinating to me.

[only1duk]

This is what they want us to believe

[riderowned]

I hope ur not connotating that we are actually only 6000 years old and that we of course lived with the dinosaurs.

[only1duk]

ah! no!

I'm no religious nut

[toamaori]

no it is what the evidence suggests

[only1duk]

i suggest it was far more fascinating in REAL life

[exupstreetfighter]

What do you want us to believe?

[only1duk]

The bible bashers would love us to believe this diluted story. Evolution was probably far more complex!

[rad4life1]

maybe evolution had some "interferance" as well?

[only1duk]

that things are a little more complex than they seem!

[riderowned]

that's fallacious, you see this actually provides empirical evidence for these claims, not outrages conjectures

[tmick7]

does that guy's hat say Villanova?