This is brilliant stuff. "All things in moderation," including moderation!!! The best writing about the appropriateness of excessive emotion is in Ruskin's essay. "the Pathetic Fallacy." He describes the best poets as those who know what justifies losing control. Citizens who are too civil will walk politely into the Ovens when asked. Wildness has its moments.
I really enjoy your video. Although, it seems as if you summarized every thing you did of your previous videos on stoic philosophy and compressed it into this video.
Stoicism is not easy to practice, though, it would be ideal if every one were a stoic.
Emotion is what drives action, not all emotions are from false beliefs if you are experiencing positive emotion (natural state of being) than you are in alignment to what you want and who you are or who you think you are but if you are feeling negative emotions then you are gravitating towards others. I mean living outside in rather than inside out, one must have the ability to decide to discern towards others.
We should be take greater responsibility for our thoughts as they will become beliefs, we are then modulating our perception thus experience. The universe will reveal to the self what is chosen whether the self is aware of this choice or if it’s merely external influenced (default).
So the environment is cruel towards the self as others have the capacity to formulate influence and cause emotions. These emotions will grow inside the self, and then the self will re-evaluate which may lead to change in belief either for better typically for the worse. A lot of people are in submission unfortunately living outside in, allowing the external forces shape interfere even in choice rather than giving the self a chance to desire and create.
where does one draw the limitations and boundaries of agency and acceptance....the military industrial complex and the buying of the senate congress and politicains comes to mind? are we thus prodcuts of our epoch as marx would say or could we change what is and how would that come about? those are some questions that I find myself coming back to again and again...
I was so pleased to find your videos! I have been studying the Stoics this past year - the books of Epictetus, Aurelius, and now Seneca. Also, 'A Guide to the Good Life' which was interesting. I am at the beginning of my studies and still just reading, but I truly believe it is possible to live by these principles. It's an invigorating challenge, perhaps the ultimate challenge. For me, that's what I want -to aim well, with purpose. The more I understand my target, the better my practice. Thanks.
If they had no emotion they wouldn't move.. I doubt there is a lack feeling emotions but like the finger tips can be made more resistant to heat over time and experience. The reaction of feeling overwhelmed by emotions can leave with awareness or you can become numb blocking out the new experiences as well and not grow all that much which is not what you're talking about.. Just like you would still feel your fingers burn if there were a dangerous amount of heat we can be open to new experience.
By how long does stoicism predate Christianity and to what degree has its virtues crept into the religion? Had some form of stoicism remained i.terwoven through schools of thought throughout the centuries, or did it reemerge at some point in modern history? To what extent does it permeate modern psychology?
If natural selection has no intelligence driving life into the future. Nature has been is and always I try not to be to nihlistic. Hard determinism is hard to accept at times. The gods don't want humans to know about other lives in other universes.
GREAT VID. I just wish all philosophers were as authentic as you, Corey. By which I mean that you read all them big books, with big words in them... but then you apply it to you own experience, and see how it works in that context. So, as a result, you come across as someone who has had first hand experience of what you're talking about - rather than just being a brainy muppet who can regurgitate someone else's slogans. You are a breath of fresh air, pal :-)
@mickmle1 He is more interested in teaching or making clear the topic in question, where other people are more interested in showing off what they know. Guess I felt the need to agree with you and add my two cents. =)
@mickmle1 He is more interested in teaching or making clear the topic in question, where other people are more interested in showing off what they know. Guess I felt the need to agree with you and add my two cents.
Great video, I am very interested in reading up on Stoicism now or even getting my hands on your book. I am tight on money but I am sure it will be worth it. Thanks again.
Seneca? The man whose made the greatest private fortune in history up to that time through graft? the man who kept a room in his house decorated to look like a poor man's so could go and luxuriate in the feeling of poverty for an hour a week?
@HConstantine It is a Stoic practice: negative visualization. The goal is not to luxuriate in the feeling of poverty, but of reminding oneself not to take one's position for granted. It's a way to deal with the hedonic adaption process where we adapt to what we have and no longer feel good about it. The practice also serves to remind us of what we could be living in eventually (poverty), and so avoiding the initial shock of the possible misfortune.
"Any effectively generated theory capable of expressing elementary arithmetic cannot be both consistent and complete."
"How I can succeed in reading the code message in the fulness of beings, in existing concretely in my relations with Transcendence, in gaining my own Being in historically formed obedience to Transcendence, all this is conjoined to the fundamental question how the One is in the many, what it is, and how I can become certain of the One."
I dig the early Stoics - they showed a fascinating willingness to put accepted cultural "wisdom" under scrutiny. Zeno himself apparently had some very interesting social ideas which preceded modern radicals by millenia.
The later Stoics were less interesting IMHO. They seemed to privatize their interests a great deal more, and be more resigned to society's pig-headedness.
@Professoranton you are getting a tad controversial, good for you! Do not fear for your career, man has nothing to fear, but fear itself. A buddhist monk said, which is very similar to stoicism- "cling to nothing, crave for nothing". That is perfect advise. Embrace the controversy, you are doing good work here for humanity! APE
I both understand yet am confused on your target metaphor. Why do we strive for perfection and virtuosity (aiming at the target, pulling the arrow back...things within our control), if we are ultimately indifferent to the outcome? Wouldn't the result be affected by our own actions, so that a miss would mean we failed at controlling something within our control (aiming)?
My midway-through-the-video thought regards the Stoics' "not worrying about what's not under your power". I would claim that one should worry about what's not under one's control, because that's what drives and has driven many an advancement. One of your first quotes named the body as not being under one's control, but that is radically becoming controllable these days with gene therapy, artificial implants etc.
I really like your target metaphor. It's neither here nor there it's the attempt that count's which was important for the stoic's we learn from failed attempt's.The unfortunate thing is that at times it can lead to conformity or compliance, the greatest thinkers, inventors etc are those who chose to step aside from that divide, but, if our findings command a detriment to others then we have to reconsider because this is the important understanding of our endeavours if we are to respect suffering
if you want more people to read your book, and for the ideas to proliferate, you should give out an EBook for FREE!!!! people get a sweet read and you get your ideas out there, a win-win!
@lukaskoube - Yeah, a win-win... except that Corey puts loads of time into that writing, but doesn't get the money he needs to put food on the table :-)
I agree with you mate....moreover,Stoic virtues call for giving away and sharing knowledge like a vine tree yielding fruits tremendously and generously.....that is pure Stoicism.
@lukaskoube "people get a sweet read and you get your ideas out there, a win-win!"
He may prefer a win-win-win over a win-win-lose. =) Anyway, it's a good thing for people to learn to vote with their money anyway. Supporting academics who do good works buy buying their books is one way of doing this. Ultimately, even a philosopher has daily needs that must be met and having money will likely make the practical aspects of their lives easier.
I think that once the mind is under proper supervision, life becomes a new experience where we can begin our final quest. know thyself, of course non dual stuff while not asleep. Beyond duality there are no words.
Excellent video. For anyone interested, here's a link to a video of Matthieu Ricard, a Buddhist monk, delivering a talk on happiness -- specifically, drawing happiness from within yourself, regardless of outside circumstances. Buddhist philosophy is not the same as Stoicism, but they share the similar aspect of only focusing on those things within your power to control, and being at peace with whatever happens that cannot be controlled.
I absolutely love Stoicism, its kind of bastardized in the UK as meaning a stiff upper lip, but that is not the true ethos of the Stoic. I like the fact it means Porch-psychology and I take some form of energy-information and learning from that discription. I also believe it to be a form of existentialism like the word "Stone". I think the primer of it is very important, if you seek groundbreaking research about universe and mind. APE
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erdal0 5 months ago
This is brilliant stuff. "All things in moderation," including moderation!!! The best writing about the appropriateness of excessive emotion is in Ruskin's essay. "the Pathetic Fallacy." He describes the best poets as those who know what justifies losing control. Citizens who are too civil will walk politely into the Ovens when asked. Wildness has its moments.
coreolis7 6 months ago
thank you.
defusedplanet 6 months ago
Stoicism is an appropriate belief system in America in this day and age. Good on you for educating us about it.
HDAlexDo 6 months ago
I really enjoy your video. Although, it seems as if you summarized every thing you did of your previous videos on stoic philosophy and compressed it into this video.
Stoicism is not easy to practice, though, it would be ideal if every one were a stoic.
someThinkingApe 6 months ago
Hi Corey that is all one comment it didn't fit in one comment box but I did it so its starting from top down :)
LauraDania 6 months ago
Emotion is what drives action, not all emotions are from false beliefs if you are experiencing positive emotion (natural state of being) than you are in alignment to what you want and who you are or who you think you are but if you are feeling negative emotions then you are gravitating towards others. I mean living outside in rather than inside out, one must have the ability to decide to discern towards others.
LauraDania 6 months ago
We should be take greater responsibility for our thoughts as they will become beliefs, we are then modulating our perception thus experience. The universe will reveal to the self what is chosen whether the self is aware of this choice or if it’s merely external influenced (default).
LauraDania 6 months ago
So the environment is cruel towards the self as others have the capacity to formulate influence and cause emotions. These emotions will grow inside the self, and then the self will re-evaluate which may lead to change in belief either for better typically for the worse. A lot of people are in submission unfortunately living outside in, allowing the external forces shape interfere even in choice rather than giving the self a chance to desire and create.
LauraDania 6 months ago
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LauraDania 6 months ago
where does one draw the limitations and boundaries of agency and acceptance....the military industrial complex and the buying of the senate congress and politicains comes to mind? are we thus prodcuts of our epoch as marx would say or could we change what is and how would that come about? those are some questions that I find myself coming back to again and again...
F1ghtclub2k11 6 months ago
I'm enjoying your book (both of them actually) and get into them every chance I get. Thanks for this video supplement.
rodgerbroome 6 months ago
I was so pleased to find your videos! I have been studying the Stoics this past year - the books of Epictetus, Aurelius, and now Seneca. Also, 'A Guide to the Good Life' which was interesting. I am at the beginning of my studies and still just reading, but I truly believe it is possible to live by these principles. It's an invigorating challenge, perhaps the ultimate challenge. For me, that's what I want -to aim well, with purpose. The more I understand my target, the better my practice. Thanks.
PaperTajLea 6 months ago
If they had no emotion they wouldn't move.. I doubt there is a lack feeling emotions but like the finger tips can be made more resistant to heat over time and experience. The reaction of feeling overwhelmed by emotions can leave with awareness or you can become numb blocking out the new experiences as well and not grow all that much which is not what you're talking about.. Just like you would still feel your fingers burn if there were a dangerous amount of heat we can be open to new experience.
GoldenFinchFellow 6 months ago
By how long does stoicism predate Christianity and to what degree has its virtues crept into the religion? Had some form of stoicism remained i.terwoven through schools of thought throughout the centuries, or did it reemerge at some point in modern history? To what extent does it permeate modern psychology?
beldamrci 6 months ago
Not properly under their jurisdiction well that's reassuring.
Ioganstone 6 months ago
If natural selection has no intelligence driving life into the future. Nature has been is and always I try not to be to nihlistic. Hard determinism is hard to accept at times. The gods don't want humans to know about other lives in other universes.
1umbnonearth 6 months ago
Excellent video, thumbs up and faved. :-)
inspirediam 6 months ago
GREAT VID. I just wish all philosophers were as authentic as you, Corey. By which I mean that you read all them big books, with big words in them... but then you apply it to you own experience, and see how it works in that context. So, as a result, you come across as someone who has had first hand experience of what you're talking about - rather than just being a brainy muppet who can regurgitate someone else's slogans. You are a breath of fresh air, pal :-)
mickmle1 6 months ago 10
@mickmle1 He is more interested in teaching or making clear the topic in question, where other people are more interested in showing off what they know. Guess I felt the need to agree with you and add my two cents. =)
lmcdowall 6 months ago
@mickmle1 He is more interested in teaching or making clear the topic in question, where other people are more interested in showing off what they know. Guess I felt the need to agree with you and add my two cents.
lmcdowall 6 months ago
@lmcdowall - On you go. Those two cents are what YT is for...
mickmle1 6 months ago
Great video, I am very interested in reading up on Stoicism now or even getting my hands on your book. I am tight on money but I am sure it will be worth it. Thanks again.
mojomanhand 6 months ago
Have you made a video on Zen? The arrow video brought that to my mind, naturally enough.
Gesmehod 6 months ago
Seneca? The man whose made the greatest private fortune in history up to that time through graft? the man who kept a room in his house decorated to look like a poor man's so could go and luxuriate in the feeling of poverty for an hour a week?
HConstantine 6 months ago
@HConstantine It is a Stoic practice: negative visualization. The goal is not to luxuriate in the feeling of poverty, but of reminding oneself not to take one's position for granted. It's a way to deal with the hedonic adaption process where we adapt to what we have and no longer feel good about it. The practice also serves to remind us of what we could be living in eventually (poverty), and so avoiding the initial shock of the possible misfortune.
tranquil87 6 months ago
@tranquil87 Or, in Seneca's case, it could just be unbelievable hypocrisy.
HConstantine 6 months ago
@HConstantine Yeah, I'm aware of the controversy around Seneca, but I don't think it's solid enough to warrant calling him an hypocrite, personally.
tranquil87 6 months ago
"Any effectively generated theory capable of expressing elementary arithmetic cannot be both consistent and complete."
"How I can succeed in reading the code message in the fulness of beings, in existing concretely in my relations with Transcendence, in gaining my own Being in historically formed obedience to Transcendence, all this is conjoined to the fundamental question how the One is in the many, what it is, and how I can become certain of the One."
egoistorms 6 months ago
I dig the early Stoics - they showed a fascinating willingness to put accepted cultural "wisdom" under scrutiny. Zeno himself apparently had some very interesting social ideas which preceded modern radicals by millenia.
The later Stoics were less interesting IMHO. They seemed to privatize their interests a great deal more, and be more resigned to society's pig-headedness.
RemoveYourChains 6 months ago
@Professoranton you are getting a tad controversial, good for you! Do not fear for your career, man has nothing to fear, but fear itself. A buddhist monk said, which is very similar to stoicism- "cling to nothing, crave for nothing". That is perfect advise. Embrace the controversy, you are doing good work here for humanity! APE
apekillssnake 6 months ago
I read "Sources of Significance."
natedaug1 6 months ago
correction: virtousness, not virtuosity*
nicksgiese 6 months ago
I both understand yet am confused on your target metaphor. Why do we strive for perfection and virtuosity (aiming at the target, pulling the arrow back...things within our control), if we are ultimately indifferent to the outcome? Wouldn't the result be affected by our own actions, so that a miss would mean we failed at controlling something within our control (aiming)?
nicksgiese 6 months ago
My midway-through-the-video thought regards the Stoics' "not worrying about what's not under your power". I would claim that one should worry about what's not under one's control, because that's what drives and has driven many an advancement. One of your first quotes named the body as not being under one's control, but that is radically becoming controllable these days with gene therapy, artificial implants etc.
wimsweden 6 months ago
I really like your target metaphor. It's neither here nor there it's the attempt that count's which was important for the stoic's we learn from failed attempt's.The unfortunate thing is that at times it can lead to conformity or compliance, the greatest thinkers, inventors etc are those who chose to step aside from that divide, but, if our findings command a detriment to others then we have to reconsider because this is the important understanding of our endeavours if we are to respect suffering
urquiza78 6 months ago
if you want more people to read your book, and for the ideas to proliferate, you should give out an EBook for FREE!!!! people get a sweet read and you get your ideas out there, a win-win!
lukaskoube 6 months ago 9
@lukaskoube - Yeah, a win-win... except that Corey puts loads of time into that writing, but doesn't get the money he needs to put food on the table :-)
mickmle1 6 months ago
I agree with you mate....moreover,Stoic virtues call for giving away and sharing knowledge like a vine tree yielding fruits tremendously and generously.....that is pure Stoicism.
megaralee 6 months ago
@lukaskoube "people get a sweet read and you get your ideas out there, a win-win!"
He may prefer a win-win-win over a win-win-lose. =) Anyway, it's a good thing for people to learn to vote with their money anyway. Supporting academics who do good works buy buying their books is one way of doing this. Ultimately, even a philosopher has daily needs that must be met and having money will likely make the practical aspects of their lives easier.
Gnomefro 6 months ago
I think that once the mind is under proper supervision, life becomes a new experience where we can begin our final quest. know thyself, of course non dual stuff while not asleep. Beyond duality there are no words.
cacahouetech 6 months ago
Thanks.
babylonIZfallin 6 months ago
Excellent video. For anyone interested, here's a link to a video of Matthieu Ricard, a Buddhist monk, delivering a talk on happiness -- specifically, drawing happiness from within yourself, regardless of outside circumstances. Buddhist philosophy is not the same as Stoicism, but they share the similar aspect of only focusing on those things within your power to control, and being at peace with whatever happens that cannot be controlled.
watch?v=vbLEf4HR74E
BJ219 6 months ago
Is the sound is a bit too low on this vid or are my laptop speakers just struggling? Stoicism is an extremely helpful philosophy, btw
Neueregel 6 months ago
I absolutely love Stoicism, its kind of bastardized in the UK as meaning a stiff upper lip, but that is not the true ethos of the Stoic. I like the fact it means Porch-psychology and I take some form of energy-information and learning from that discription. I also believe it to be a form of existentialism like the word "Stone". I think the primer of it is very important, if you seek groundbreaking research about universe and mind. APE
apekillssnake 6 months ago