This is very close to avoda zara. I pledge to pay all the expenses to exgumate the body of Shneerson that was buried 15 years ago and to make an expertise whom did you bury in 1994!!! If Shneeson is still alive whom did you bury in 1994????
Anyway, if your tfillin and mezzuzahs are OK, I would check out the sofer who wrote them, as sometimes the defect is in him, not the klaf. Also, check if the sale was kosher. Or, if it's easier, just replace them, but make sure the sofer and sale are OK.
As for israelijewboy's comment that you are not Jewish. To that I say that stirs11 is definitely Jewish. Goyim don't have such major battles raging within them. Refuah shleymah, stirs.
The Rambam is purposefully specific that KILLED disqualifies to teach us that all other deaths does not disqualify. Please use nicer language as we are discussing holy things. Do you know that alot of the Prophets in Nach were rejected and imprisoned. Now it's considered heretical to reject them. Have you considered getting your tfillin and mezuzahs checked. I mean that nicely.
If your next post contains no expletives, I'll consider that a sign that you don't need them checked.
Totty took my very words; there's a Mashiach in every generation.
Other than that, I refuse to discuss this with a hypocrite and a poser. You act as though you know what you are talking about when it comes to Judaism, yet here you are saying extreme lashon hara about another Jew. You yourself stated that you should love your fellow Jew, and yet you're cussing out the Rebbe with such a disrespectful manner that no one would have ever thought imaginable!
In every generation there is someone , perhaps many people, that serve as potential moshiach. If one person made another person shomer shabbos, then that person is his moshiach . As for moshiach of the generation. I believe the Rebbe certainly was the Moshiach of the generation for all Jews. There were certainly contemporary leaders, but compared to the Rebbe, their reach was communal. As for your Rambam retort, please consult Hilchos Melachim Chapter 11, Holocho 4. Only KILLED disqualifies.
Plus, if ten Jews truly desired Moshiach to come immediately, and can't even conceive of his arrival the next day of even the next moment, then Moshiach would surely be revealed to all by now. Tshuva is not some quantifyable finish line after which Moshiach and HaOlam Habo happens. It's an ongoing and eternal activity to become closer to He who is infinite, even after Moshiach comes. Yasher koach on your last post, stirs.
The tshuva that is required is the recognition and practice of the klal gadol of Rebbi Akiva. V'havata l'ereacha k'mocha. (Love your fellow as yourself.) Once enough Jews have the love that concludes that all Jews are trying their best...then King Moshiach will be revealed to all. That means the baseless hatred (sinas chinam) which was the reason for the last exile can only be cured by baseless love (ahavas chinam). And this only requires a strong start in this direction. Nice post stirs.
stirs11, the Rambam says Moshiach cannot come from someone who has been killed (like Bar Kochba, J-sus), not someone who has died by means other than killing. I must say, though, I like your style. And I envy your future tshuva. In all seriousness, though, you should work on your intellect controlling your passions, emotions.
you dont really understand Jewish teachings do you? The Moshiach CAN come from the dead, the only prohabition the Rambam made is that he cannot be KILLED (like Jesus) therefore the Moshiach can have died by natural causes and be resurrected. Please get your facts straight. This is very VERY far from christianity.
you dont really understand Jewish teachings do you? The Moshiach CAN come from the dead, the only prohabition the Rambam made is that he cannot be KILLED (like Jesus) therefore the Moshiach can have died by natural causes and be resurrected. Please get your facts straight. This is very VERY far from christianity.
Now hold up! first of all, no need to cuss; I won't argue any further if you use childish language one more time. Now, there is a Mashiach in every generation. Based on that fact (so far as the Jewish belief goes), we can say that the same Mashiach in each generation is in fact the same Neshama, reincarnated into a different body. So, you can STILL say that the Rebbe IS the Mashiach...
Other than that, you can't deny the Rebbe's holiness...
nothing to do with the video i think you should all stop being so critical and if you have questions on the way people do things you could always ask normally. Im sure you have not learnt everything and it doesnt mean bc you havent heard of it that it doesnt exsist... so therefore go learn.
dude you are completely dillusional where in the video can you see him are you on drugs or just a a brainwashed baal teshuva if the latter is the case you're views are probably extremely similiar with the christians about someone standing up from the dead being moshiach ..
Its one thing to believe in the Rebbe as mashiach, which are there textual proofs, then to make a video and put him in there...I don't want to falsely accuse you but if you edited to show the Rebbe, that is lying which is something I doubt he would want you to do...
His body PHYSICALLY moved into the spiritual "world", or, more accurately, dimention. Despite this, the Rebbe's spirit/neshama still walks this world and helps out all who need it. There are countless stories of AFTER the Rebbe passed where people actually saw him (whether in dreams or in reality) and he actually did help them in various different ways.
that's incorrect only lubavitchers considered him a leader the rest of the orthodox world didn't oohh... minor detail... he's dead and moshiach cannot come from the dead moshiach will come before techias hameisim...so kinda problematic and battle of david...nope that isn't russia... that's completely unproven BTW i don't think it's mender rather menachem
Well, according to Chabad Lubavitch he's not even really dead...Then there's always a question of reincarnation.
And then about that first statement, it's only Lubavitch that actually believes him to be the Messiah anyways...
Then about the family of David stuff, I'm pretty sure that it was proven some time or other. But I think I mainly mentioned that as something that tells you that Jesus CAN'T be the Messiah.
you wrote: "Then about the family of David stuff, I'm pretty sure that it was proven some time or other. But I think I mainly mentioned that as something that tells you that Jesus CAN'T be the Messiah" are you kidding me ? you are having a grown up discussion SOME TOME OR OTHER ????? don't assume things coz you'll be making an ASS out of yoU and ME think things through before you believe them don't just jump on the bandwagon BTW the christians also say that JC
I just came across this...lol I never responded, did I?
Let me just say one thing: it says in Judaism that the Messiah has to be a descendent of King David on the father's side. Of course, Jesus doesn't fit that discription, because, according to you, his daddy is God himself, soo...
you are clearly missing the point i am making go read it again it is not in defense of JC but i'm comparing both points of view and showing how many things you both have in common
Well, you're partially right, then. The main difference is that our saying that he is the Mashiach is much more accurate, and it actually CAN be true.
Sorry if I'm off topic again; it's not on purpose, I promise.
problem: moshiach will come before t'chiyas ha'maysim unless you believe that your rebbe is hiding out some place, you got a tough question to think about. if you do believe that he is in fact still alive then i'm not going to bother myself with you, because it is utterly rediculous to even consider that notion when he clearly was sick for a while and was hospitalized and eventually died please respond with a factual based answer not some conspiracy-like theory
Chabadnikim believe that he's alive more spiritually than physically, but still INVOLVED with us physically. Sort of, though; tell me if it doesn't really make any sense...
fulfilled promises....answer questions don't tell me what other misinformed individuals
believe to be their reality unfortunatly cabad has for a large part become a cult yes a C U L T everyone just assumes everything nothing is raionally proveable chabad baal teshevas are the classic example of "too fast too furious" they become "frum" way too fast without understanding what yiddishkeit is all about and therefore are made too believe ridiculous things and fall for it
The Rebbe was born on the 11th of Nissan. Anyway, the Rambam, whom the Rebbe cites as the foundation for the laws of moshiach, does not require that King Moshiach be born on the 9th of Menachem Av.
1. This video shows everyone opening up the prayer as they did when the Rebbe was "alive" (see #2), at the moment that he walked in to the room and up to the stand, just as he is (apparently) in this video (right on queue!)
2. According to all followers/believers of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, the Rebbe never actually died. (cont.)
Mate..you did'nt turn up for the wedding. We did...bad luck for you. I do not "hate" Jews. I despise "Rabbinic Judaism" just as the Messiah did when he called your leadership..."the children of hell". Welcome btw to the vine yard. I hope you will be eating with us and not just be a "pretend" follower of the Messiah.
Man, you've been surfing the web too much...there's too much bs on the internet for ANYONE to be stupid enough to believe half the stuff posted by random people like you and me. Now grow up and stop descecrating people because of your stereotypes; what did the Rabbinical Jews ever do to you?
I once went to a non-Jewish summer camp (I'm Jewish) with my kippa/yarmulke, and this non-Jewish kid would always grab my yarmulke and toss it around. I don't hate Christians and/or others because of that, and not because of a thousand others things that other Christians do to me every day; since they don't do it because they're Christian, but because they are who they are!
No way. No way. The thing is, its not just that it looks like him, the moment he walks past you feel somthing different, then you turn for a closer look and he is gone.
Then again why should we be suprised? It is the Rebbe we are talking about after all. Really freaky.
estimate lossile,im amkurov from a beit habad,and im so surprise for ur coment, i don't know is it true or not the video but im absolutely sure like all the real lubavitchers and idn who studies hasides that the rbbe and all the rebbes can appear in the fisical form they are not limited by the live and the death like u concibed.u dont have any idea,what a rebbe is frm the balshemtov still the rbbe
This video is really freaky. You cant really be sure that its the Rebbe, but it def looks like him. Also no one gives him a second glance. This is really really really really really weird.
this is amazing, i did not even realize that he walked through until i read the description at the top of the page. i am only guessing here because i do not know, but was this ceremony to celebrate the anniversary of his death or something?
read the video comment once more. If you don't know how Rebbe looks like - looks like it is the one with a white beard who passes thrue at about 11-th second of the clip
they say messianic lubabitch is the closest religion to judaism
nameless270 8 months ago
Come to the voice of the messiah Site
MrAsSahab 2 years ago
you all are on crack thre rebbe has already decomposed
lachooch 2 years ago
@lachooch prove it
MegaHebrew 1 year ago
Please stop posting videos and making these crazy comments.
bengidaro3 2 years ago
This is very close to avoda zara. I pledge to pay all the expenses to exgumate the body of Shneerson that was buried 15 years ago and to make an expertise whom did you bury in 1994!!! If Shneeson is still alive whom did you bury in 1994????
LEOBIM2008 2 years ago
stirs11. You don't know basic Rambam.
Anyway, if your tfillin and mezzuzahs are OK, I would check out the sofer who wrote them, as sometimes the defect is in him, not the klaf. Also, check if the sale was kosher. Or, if it's easier, just replace them, but make sure the sofer and sale are OK.
As for israelijewboy's comment that you are not Jewish. To that I say that stirs11 is definitely Jewish. Goyim don't have such major battles raging within them. Refuah shleymah, stirs.
tottyster 2 years ago
The Rambam is purposefully specific that KILLED disqualifies to teach us that all other deaths does not disqualify. Please use nicer language as we are discussing holy things. Do you know that alot of the Prophets in Nach were rejected and imprisoned. Now it's considered heretical to reject them. Have you considered getting your tfillin and mezuzahs checked. I mean that nicely.
If your next post contains no expletives, I'll consider that a sign that you don't need them checked.
tottyster 2 years ago
Besides, I honestly don't care WHO the Mashiach is, to be honest with you, so long as he comes!
You are no Jew, for if you were you would act accordingly.
Shalom Aleichem...
israelijewboy 2 years ago
Totty took my very words; there's a Mashiach in every generation.
Other than that, I refuse to discuss this with a hypocrite and a poser. You act as though you know what you are talking about when it comes to Judaism, yet here you are saying extreme lashon hara about another Jew. You yourself stated that you should love your fellow Jew, and yet you're cussing out the Rebbe with such a disrespectful manner that no one would have ever thought imaginable!
israelijewboy 2 years ago
In every generation there is someone , perhaps many people, that serve as potential moshiach. If one person made another person shomer shabbos, then that person is his moshiach . As for moshiach of the generation. I believe the Rebbe certainly was the Moshiach of the generation for all Jews. There were certainly contemporary leaders, but compared to the Rebbe, their reach was communal. As for your Rambam retort, please consult Hilchos Melachim Chapter 11, Holocho 4. Only KILLED disqualifies.
tottyster 2 years ago
Plus, if ten Jews truly desired Moshiach to come immediately, and can't even conceive of his arrival the next day of even the next moment, then Moshiach would surely be revealed to all by now. Tshuva is not some quantifyable finish line after which Moshiach and HaOlam Habo happens. It's an ongoing and eternal activity to become closer to He who is infinite, even after Moshiach comes. Yasher koach on your last post, stirs.
tottyster 2 years ago
The tshuva that is required is the recognition and practice of the klal gadol of Rebbi Akiva. V'havata l'ereacha k'mocha. (Love your fellow as yourself.) Once enough Jews have the love that concludes that all Jews are trying their best...then King Moshiach will be revealed to all. That means the baseless hatred (sinas chinam) which was the reason for the last exile can only be cured by baseless love (ahavas chinam). And this only requires a strong start in this direction. Nice post stirs.
tottyster 2 years ago
stirs11, the Rambam says Moshiach cannot come from someone who has been killed (like Bar Kochba, J-sus), not someone who has died by means other than killing. I must say, though, I like your style. And I envy your future tshuva. In all seriousness, though, you should work on your intellect controlling your passions, emotions.
tottyster 2 years ago
stirs11, please consult Sanhedrin 98b; Zohar on Parchas Balak 203b; Sefer Yeshuos Meshicho (Abarbanel) p. 104; Arba Meiot Shekel Kesef by Reb Chaim Vital p.68; Sha'ar Hagilgulim ch. 13; and Sdei Chemed vol.7 p.2984.
I figure you are capable of looking up the first cite because Art Scroll has an English translation.
tottyster 2 years ago
You obs have no grasp of the Rambam or the countless other Rabbinical sages who teach differently...nice work showing your true colors.
RebEMGelobter 3 years ago
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you dont really understand Jewish teachings do you? The Moshiach CAN come from the dead, the only prohabition the Rambam made is that he cannot be KILLED (like Jesus) therefore the Moshiach can have died by natural causes and be resurrected. Please get your facts straight. This is very VERY far from christianity.
RebEMGelobter 3 years ago
you dont really understand Jewish teachings do you? The Moshiach CAN come from the dead, the only prohabition the Rambam made is that he cannot be KILLED (like Jesus) therefore the Moshiach can have died by natural causes and be resurrected. Please get your facts straight. This is very VERY far from christianity.
RebEMGelobter 3 years ago
יחי אדוננו מורנו ורבנו מלך המשיח לעולם ועד
RebEMGelobter 3 years ago
and I suppose YOU, yourself, are Jewish?
israelijewboy 3 years ago
Now hold up! first of all, no need to cuss; I won't argue any further if you use childish language one more time. Now, there is a Mashiach in every generation. Based on that fact (so far as the Jewish belief goes), we can say that the same Mashiach in each generation is in fact the same Neshama, reincarnated into a different body. So, you can STILL say that the Rebbe IS the Mashiach...
Other than that, you can't deny the Rebbe's holiness...
israelijewboy 3 years ago
Oh, and by the way Chabad is JEWISH not Christian. Just so you know...
israelijewboy 3 years ago
Very creative remark...in fact, this is even the THIRD time you're saying it! You must be a straight-A student, am I right?
israelijewboy 3 years ago
Jesus is the Messiah.
wonkacorp 3 years ago
nothing to do with the video i think you should all stop being so critical and if you have questions on the way people do things you could always ask normally. Im sure you have not learnt everything and it doesnt mean bc you havent heard of it that it doesnt exsist... so therefore go learn.
miriamk123 3 years ago
What are you smoking?
ChubbyCheckerChannel 4 years ago
dude you are completely dillusional where in the video can you see him are you on drugs or just a a brainwashed baal teshuva if the latter is the case you're views are probably extremely similiar with the christians about someone standing up from the dead being moshiach ..
molew85 4 years ago
Its one thing to believe in the Rebbe as mashiach, which are there textual proofs, then to make a video and put him in there...I don't want to falsely accuse you but if you edited to show the Rebbe, that is lying which is something I doubt he would want you to do...
raquelita120 4 years ago
I'm praying for you all.
QuoVadius 4 years ago
His body PHYSICALLY moved into the spiritual "world", or, more accurately, dimention. Despite this, the Rebbe's spirit/neshama still walks this world and helps out all who need it. There are countless stories of AFTER the Rebbe passed where people actually saw him (whether in dreams or in reality) and he actually did help them in various different ways.
israelijewboy 4 years ago
That's what they said of Jesus ... why believe it in this case and not the other ?
GodForum 4 years ago
Well, Jesus didn't fulfil a SINGLE requirement for being the messiah/mashiach under Jewish law, while the Rebbe did, soooo...
israelijewboy 4 years ago
Well, Jesus didn't fulfil a SINGLE requirement for being the messiah/mashiach under Jewish law, while the Rebbe did, soooo...
israelijewboy 4 years ago
israelijewboy ... Please list the requirements the Rebbe fulfilled for being our mashiach.
GodForum 4 years ago
Considered leader of Israel
Came from family of King David
Jewish
Called Mendel (there's a whole discussion on this, so if you don't know anything about it just ignore this little fact)
Proved himself to be a holy person with his thousands of holy acts, some witnessed in front of hundreds (if not thousands) of people
Fought battle of David/Israel (with Russia, fought battles of Israeles)
Says Mashiach will appear on Tish'a Be'Av, and the Rebbe was born on that day
israelijewboy 4 years ago
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Thanks israelijewboy I will research this ... let me know if you have more information.
GodForum 4 years ago 2
that's incorrect only lubavitchers considered him a leader the rest of the orthodox world didn't oohh... minor detail... he's dead and moshiach cannot come from the dead moshiach will come before techias hameisim...so kinda problematic and battle of david...nope that isn't russia... that's completely unproven BTW i don't think it's mender rather menachem
please explain you're point
molew85 4 years ago
Well, according to Chabad Lubavitch he's not even really dead...Then there's always a question of reincarnation.
And then about that first statement, it's only Lubavitch that actually believes him to be the Messiah anyways...
Then about the family of David stuff, I'm pretty sure that it was proven some time or other. But I think I mainly mentioned that as something that tells you that Jesus CAN'T be the Messiah.
israelijewboy 4 years ago
you wrote: "Then about the family of David stuff, I'm pretty sure that it was proven some time or other. But I think I mainly mentioned that as something that tells you that Jesus CAN'T be the Messiah" are you kidding me ? you are having a grown up discussion SOME TOME OR OTHER ????? don't assume things coz you'll be making an ASS out of yoU and ME think things through before you believe them don't just jump on the bandwagon BTW the christians also say that JC
molew85 4 years ago
I just came across this...lol I never responded, did I?
Let me just say one thing: it says in Judaism that the Messiah has to be a descendent of King David on the father's side. Of course, Jesus doesn't fit that discription, because, according to you, his daddy is God himself, soo...
israelijewboy 3 years ago
you are clearly missing the point i am making go read it again it is not in defense of JC but i'm comparing both points of view and showing how many things you both have in common
molew85 3 years ago
Well, you're partially right, then. The main difference is that our saying that he is the Mashiach is much more accurate, and it actually CAN be true.
Sorry if I'm off topic again; it's not on purpose, I promise.
israelijewboy 3 years ago
problem: moshiach will come before t'chiyas ha'maysim unless you believe that your rebbe is hiding out some place, you got a tough question to think about. if you do believe that he is in fact still alive then i'm not going to bother myself with you, because it is utterly rediculous to even consider that notion when he clearly was sick for a while and was hospitalized and eventually died please respond with a factual based answer not some conspiracy-like theory
molew85 3 years ago
Chabadnikim believe that he's alive more spiritually than physically, but still INVOLVED with us physically. Sort of, though; tell me if it doesn't really make any sense...
israelijewboy 3 years ago
fulfilled promises....answer questions don't tell me what other misinformed individuals
believe to be their reality unfortunatly cabad has for a large part become a cult yes a C U L T everyone just assumes everything nothing is raionally proveable chabad baal teshevas are the classic example of "too fast too furious" they become "frum" way too fast without understanding what yiddishkeit is all about and therefore are made too believe ridiculous things and fall for it
molew85 4 years ago
The Rebbe was born on the 11th of Nissan. Anyway, the Rambam, whom the Rebbe cites as the foundation for the laws of moshiach, does not require that King Moshiach be born on the 9th of Menachem Av.
tottyster 2 years ago
2 things everyone should know:
1. This video shows everyone opening up the prayer as they did when the Rebbe was "alive" (see #2), at the moment that he walked in to the room and up to the stand, just as he is (apparently) in this video (right on queue!)
2. According to all followers/believers of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, the Rebbe never actually died. (cont.)
israelijewboy 4 years ago
tell me, how many times did the rebbe zt"l walk into shul with his siddur open?
jordanfstop 4 years ago
Freeze on the 11th second. Very interesting. Definitely, it isn't Yudel Krinsky!
rafvrab 4 years ago
You never know :-)
Jewishfan 4 years ago
idiots have you ever heard of video editing, this is avoda zara, the moshiach is alive today and its NOT THR REBBE
lachooch 4 years ago
wow!...=O
xruchy 4 years ago
What a bunch of wank.
You lot of retards rejected Yeshua Mashiac over 1700 years ago and yet you WANK yourselves silly over this old fool! :-D
Listen to yourselves.
When he can rise from the dead and walk on water give me a call.
QuoVadius 4 years ago
Shut the F* up..
I pay my respect to the chabad people reading over here, so i wont be cursing..
But you better shut up about the rebbe!
you pathetic lil fool!
Gilkenny83 4 years ago
You lot of Talmud worshipping freaks still taking 3 year olds for wives or have you moved up a few notches to 14 year olds?
QuoVadius 4 years ago
Yeshua is my rabbi. And he wants you to stop hating his people. Shalom.
Ricky489 4 years ago
Mate..you did'nt turn up for the wedding. We did...bad luck for you. I do not "hate" Jews. I despise "Rabbinic Judaism" just as the Messiah did when he called your leadership..."the children of hell". Welcome btw to the vine yard. I hope you will be eating with us and not just be a "pretend" follower of the Messiah.
QuoVadius 4 years ago
I never eat with my enemies.
Ricky489 4 years ago
:-D
Yes..you are indeed a follower of Yeshua Mashiac!
"Hypocrit"! "Child of hell"! "A whited sepulcher filled with dead mens bones"!
How right He was. :-)
QuoVadius 4 years ago
Man, you've been surfing the web too much...there's too much bs on the internet for ANYONE to be stupid enough to believe half the stuff posted by random people like you and me. Now grow up and stop descecrating people because of your stereotypes; what did the Rabbinical Jews ever do to you?
israelijewboy 4 years ago
I once went to a non-Jewish summer camp (I'm Jewish) with my kippa/yarmulke, and this non-Jewish kid would always grab my yarmulke and toss it around. I don't hate Christians and/or others because of that, and not because of a thousand others things that other Christians do to me every day; since they don't do it because they're Christian, but because they are who they are!
israelijewboy 4 years ago
wow.
elise21315 4 years ago
No way. No way. The thing is, its not just that it looks like him, the moment he walks past you feel somthing different, then you turn for a closer look and he is gone.
Then again why should we be suprised? It is the Rebbe we are talking about after all. Really freaky.
Shalom
Grandseraphim 4 years ago
What a f... I am a lubavitcher too, but this is stupis, he is dead!
Iossile 5 years ago
estimate lossile,im amkurov from a beit habad,and im so surprise for ur coment, i don't know is it true or not the video but im absolutely sure like all the real lubavitchers and idn who studies hasides that the rbbe and all the rebbes can appear in the fisical form they are not limited by the live and the death like u concibed.u dont have any idea,what a rebbe is frm the balshemtov still the rbbe
iankev23 4 years ago
AVODA ZARA
cprntr 5 years ago
u are aPATETIC MISNAGUED , PUAJ
iankev23 4 years ago
This video is really freaky. You cant really be sure that its the Rebbe, but it def looks like him. Also no one gives him a second glance. This is really really really really really weird.
chaimsl 5 years ago
this is amazing, i did not even realize that he walked through until i read the description at the top of the page. i am only guessing here because i do not know, but was this ceremony to celebrate the anniversary of his death or something?
jewtang610 5 years ago
It is a regular every-day ceremony of opening daily prayer, at regular time, when Rebbe was coming to pray.
shmul770 5 years ago
the lubavitch rebbe who walks through this video is alive or dead?
jewtang610 5 years ago
read the video comment once more. If you don't know how Rebbe looks like - looks like it is the one with a white beard who passes thrue at about 11-th second of the clip
shmul770 5 years ago
thats what i thought, just making sure, its really an amazing video. who first discovered it, and how?
jewtang610 5 years ago
@shmul770 who says that this is the Rebbe passing, perhaps its someone else....
you can't really see clearly..
joseff4321 1 year ago
IMPRESSIVE!!!!
hermokrates 5 years ago
Can anyone tell me, did Rebbe ever walked in with open Siddur?
tovshteyn 5 years ago
I don't know, but will try to find out
shmul770 5 years ago