Anna you are a great singer--but you are NOT a coloratura as seen here with your heavy voice/coloring/struggle to get to the top notes. You sound like Lucia's mother. Let us all check out Ruth Ann Swenson's posts to get educated on the real deal. Stick with Verdi, Ms. Netrebko!
Lucia désastreuses en compagnie de son ami Rolando déjà au bout du rouleau. Le Surintendant du Met a eu des sueurs froides pendant ses soirées-naufrages ...
Beautiful beyond belief! Dear Anna, I can compare you to no one – with your lustrous, magnificent voice, your golden tone and stunning physical beauty – you a real Diva, and you are a goddess! Thank you for filling our lives with joy and happiness! I am so happy to exist in your time!
@09avenger I fully agree with you! It's so beautiful and full of drama! Anna is unique with her wonderful, warm, rich, magical voice! She is a real Diva of our time! The brightest new star on the opera horizon! Bravissima Anna! Thank your for art!
This is a great Lucia! This performance was broadcast in US on public TV many times. Her fabulous voice is wonderfully harmonized with orchestra and especially with flute. Amazing acting too – !!! Gorgeous, thank you Anna!
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
Can we all just agree that Netrebko may not have the "best" voice ever but that she is a beautiful woman, with a beautiful voice, who acts beautifully and is charming and delightful to watch?
By the way, I love Dessay too - isn't it possible to like both? Why not?
Most losers hate Netrebko because they cannot stand her success.
The thing is, even if you bash Anna to your own death you will never became as famous as she. She has the most magnificent voice and all envy in the world cannot change this! There are reasons why she is where she is - so shut up! Who cares about your sick nitpicking of her performances? Come out and do better - then we will talk about Anna's flaws.
For some reason there is a firestorm of controversy surrounding Netrebko. It has to be one of two reasons, nothing else.
First, she is being marketed, without having the real technical skills for Classical Opera experts. This must be angering the knowledgeable afficianados
of opera. Secondly this group ( Filaredo, Bellafredina, Sorkin, etc. ) must be enraging people with their Youtube campaign. If Netrebko is NOT behind all this, she should have her publicist make a statement!!
mtnmanjt , write to Netrebko and send her all of your dirty comments - I am sure her layer will be happy to see you. Someone still has to do that, you pathetic piece of shit
Your comments about Anna are not respectful, they are insulting and hateful. As you may understand there is no right and wrong in art, it is all very subjective, so your FACTS mean nothing as long as other people see them differently (rightfully so). You do not hear Anna's greatness? Fine. Do not listen and do not bash. Otherwise people will start doing the same to you. So how about Anna's fans right to enjoy her without thugmans, elephant's and eradessos pathetic comments on each page?
With 3 own names organise a small discussion group. Your music encyclopaedia is not bad, but one knows your rotten character and everybody knows the purpose of your staging.
You own the brazenness of a Nazi and the typical signs of a Marxist in your actions!!!
Filaredo, are you saying i am creating other IDs to defame a singer?
That is what you and aklev do.
I have this one username and of course you 2 don't even have an idea what it refers to.
Don't you see how it's you 2 freaks causing this hate thing? nobody here hates netrebko, we just hate you stubbon groupies who rather have Netrebko embarass herself as coloratura than being a true talen as a lyric soprano. Oh well suit yourself what the hell do I care about the 3 of you! lol
I'm just a little german "hobby tenor" (self-irony, LOL), but I actually know a lot of vocal technics, diction, breathing control, muscle movement and so on. And I know how very very hard it is to bring it up to perfection. It takes a lot of years to master it! And its a matter of taste to like or not like Netrebko, Dessay or other singer. I don't like Netrebko's version of Lucia, because of missing high notes and I don't like Dessay's version because of screaming and... ...
I'm NOT one of those Netrebko haters, she has a beautifull voice. She talked herself about her poor technic and diction and is working hard on it. Perhaps that is the reason, she does NOT sing the high notes yet, because she might loose her voice. She had to cancel Salzburg Festival 2007 because of problems with her vocal chords, based on oversinging and incorrect technic. Before 2005 she sang all the high notes clear and precise. After her baby-break her voice sounds much more relaxed.
I am not too but she has been promoted as the best soprano and I'm against Mediocrity. She was once a great singer when she was working hard in Russia (Ruslan and Lyudmila). When she became famous, she sang everything in poperatic style without any application of musical knowledge such as composer's style, depth in dynamics and etc etc so for many people, she's UNNATURAL to hear and obviously a very lazy singer because it shows in her voice (before & after).
If unmusial people and ignorant people continue to adore her, I don't care. Let them enjoy a cheap and forgetable night of music but if she markets herself as a real opera singer and with all those very shallow CDs and DVDs without artistic quality, that's what you call Mediocrity. Deutsche Grammophon has lost its quality. They have shallow Lang Lang and scholarly playing Hilary Hahn but nothing special or musically artistic about her compared to example Janine Jansen who always shows her best.
thugman30, well, I'm also against mediocrity. A lot of young musican are victims of commerce. They where pushing on a way, they never wanted to go at their start. And the music industrie want to sell as much as possible. Sutherland needed 1 year to study the scores of Norma, Dassay and Netrebko had to do this in 3-5 months. The difference of quality is unvoidable. And than the teachers...wrong coach = average performence!
Pyrare1, well Netrebko's Lucia (the one that was on HD) was very good, as a matter of fact it was regarded as a great performance at the MET by conductors, by critics and by public. thugman30 and eradesso's passion and hobby is to insult her and to bash, criticize all of her work. Annas has done wonderful performances, otherwise why would she still be performing at the best opera houses and be admired by millions? Thanks God nobody take seriously these 2 psychos who from you tube.
aklev77, I'm NOT against Netrebko, she really has a wonderfull voice. But I guess, she has not the right coaches to train her diction and technic.
She had to cancel Salzburg Festival 2007 based on problems with her vocal chords. So I think, with the right coaches she will be better and better with the years. Other famous singer had to walk the same way. And onother fact is, she moves to much on stage. To much moving lets loose your breath control. But's that not hear ... ...
Everyone has another taste and understanding for singing. I realy like it to share opinions with other people. But in a respectfull and factuel way. Nobody should earn violent insults for his own opinion!
Thank you for your comment, you sound as an experienced and knowledgeable person who does not mean to hurt anyones feelings. This is opposed to thugman30 and eradesso whose only life achievements are successful bashing of a great soprano. These 2 losers spend 24/7 on youtube insulting Netrebko.
eradesso, you would have dismissed anything against Dessay anyway. I was saying these things long time before I found this review - so shut up - this just to demonstrate what in real world Dessay's art means and that your Dessay is not so perfect and people do not like her because in her coloratura she screams, her voice is unpleasant and no one buys her CD's because she is boring - so digest it poor loser
And you even dare saying I am the one bashing someone. You are the one who's bashing Dessay without even knowing her. I told you 200 times about Dessay's vocal problems etc etc nevertheless she has made historical achievements leaving footprint in history as Lakmé, Queen of the Night, Konstanze, Ophelie, Olympia, Zerbinetta etc.
You have never even heard those operas because Netrebko can't/hasn't sung any of them.
pyrare, the singer can make suggestions to the director if she wants to limit her movements during solos and especially I've seen the making of Manon rehearsal. She made a lot of suggestions to the director.
thugman30, ok...in that case it is her own fault. Look at other famous singers. It has a vocal technical reason to don't move on stage like a wild running chicken while singing. Am I right? :)
It's hers and the directors too especially Vincent Paterson, who directed her MTVs and Manon with Villazon. I read about it that Paterson admitted that he got bored with the old tradition of the Opera and wanted a balance of great acting and "great" singing. The directors took advantage of her new image and charisma for the opera.
thugman30, I know Jonas Kaufman, I studied with him at conservatory in Munich. His early lyric voice was much lighter. I think he is the best german tenor nowdays. And he has a nearly perfect german diction. But you must
have the right coach. I mean a german coach for german diction, a french coach for french diction and so on. That's the optimum. Even famous russian coaches are well known for their bad knowledge in other languages!
Netrebko only has a bad diction in easier foreign languages such as Italian because of her technique. She pushes her voice too much so the words are muffled.
thugman30, that's the reason I've the opinion she has the wrong coaches. No singer can hear himself and his diction while singing. He has to feel it. And that's the job of a good coach to correct it. So, I say, with a perfect teacher she would sing nearly perfect at the end. And she has the possibilities to do.
Scotto was actually a great soprano - a lyric soprano who had much better access to coloratura. She had ups and downs like everyone else.
I do blame coaches for Netrebko's mistakes but above all I blame her label and the houses like Met etc.
Do you think Netrebko would sing the perfect role for her as Micaela to someone else's Carmen? Fat chance in hell. She is and is expected to be a primadonna so she's only sold for primadonna roles.
hm...but Scotto has the kowledge to teach her. Some great singers are bad teachers, but Renata Scotto belongs to the best teachers for sopranos. If it's true, that her coach now is Russian, you know my opinion about diction...
yes i've seen her coach on the deutsche grammophone video for the new cd.. and just who the heck is that woman??
maybe someone who (unlike Scotto) didn't try to discourage Netrebko from singing such different (and wrong) roles? That woman in the video even brags about how they made her sing roles from mezzo to soprano lol
whoo hoo good for you woman! thank god pitch problems can always be corrected with computers while studio recording... but on stage???
She should sing Madame Butterfly, Pamina, Micaela, Antonia, Liù, Nedda, Lauretta, Mignon etc.
And she should sing LESS. Right now it may seem cool to her to be cast so much all over the world but in the end she will understand it was a bad choice when the voice will be gone 30 years earlier than it could have (look at Devia, 61 years old in better vocal shape than a 30yo)
Netrebko should ain at being a new Mirella Freni not a new Maria Callas.
oh no eradesso, she has a Russian-style education, not an Italien-style. Netrebko should be herself, beeing a new Netrebko. It sounds always boring to me, if some people say like in media :"Oh, we have a new Callas" or "Pilar Lorengar has reburn". That doesn't fit. Poor Singer who is involved in such situations!
I agree about your comment on my page about Dmitri Hvorostovsky on this video- watch?v=Ey09Z6rczc4&feature=related. He isn't one of the best. He just released a kinda weird MTV ala Bocelli. Check this out- watch?v=iPboqaq14Eo
Dmitri was great in Eugene Onegin and Queen of Spades. Bryn Terfel and Samuel Ramey agreed in Interwiews: his "Ja vas lyublyu"-aria as Prince Yeletsky is unmatched the last 35 years.
I agree. I just don't like Dmitri's mtv. It's stupid and shallow when they do that. Neither the voice is good on that mtv. Groban sounds better on that mtv.
I mean in French and German too, she has to learn and work on her technique. Yes, I remember Jonas' voice was different back then and today he's more of a baritone or spinto.
If "diction-freaks" like Lotte Lehman or Elisabeth Schwarzkopf would hear some today's famous singers and their diction, thei would move in their graves!!! R.I.P.
eradesso, these are the roles that I love and these are not all of them. Her fabulous, sophisticated, round, velvety, golden voice with an effortless and easy top note has doubled in the last few years. You predicted that she would loose it or that she is close to loosing it. You are dead wrong. She sings better and better. She is being admired by the worlds musical community, even if she is not perfect (no one is), but you entitled to your usual nitpicking, Everyone is REALLY TIRED OF YOU. Bye
Again nothing technical. Mentioning her top notes was the worst choice you could make since most of her notes above high D are never on pitch when sustained. But what would a groupie like you know. I'm bored with your ignorance.
eradesso, I am not obssesed with the high notes as you are. I hate when Dessay does it. The sound is not pleasant at all (same with Domray). The only one who had a great high note was Sutherland but she is out. I LOVE Anna's top D flat, and her sophisticaled flexible voice. You do not? Go away!!!!!
Aklev, of course you are not obsessed with high notes or anything else that Netrebko can't do which doesn't leave much to be appreciated really.
For the record, Sutherland didn't have anything solid past High E so she's not the best example of great high notes as would be for example Deutekom or Moser who you don't know of course.
Moreover, you keep showing your ignorance and littleness by keeping (intentionally) mispelling Damrau's name.
eradesso, someone said here on you tubea while ago : "eradesso, let me tell you from all my heart - you are an idio!t" - and after coming to know you I do think that this is the only and the best way of replying to you. F... the hell off! COMPREHEND?
aklev, you know me as much as you know opera so in other words you know nothing of either at all.
and just so you know, i did file complaint with youtube for your rude posts that infringe the community rules of youtube so keep up with messages like these and you will be banned. comprendi??? :)
aklev & sorkin (same person in disguise) i've never really insulted you personally to the extent of telling you to F* off. That is what you do with me and anyone else who critiques Netrebko because you don't know how to articulate a musical debate. Suit yourself.
I'm not playing victim but I'm not keen on you and your other mate filaredo/immo getting personally rude and outrageous with the nazi comments so you either keep it musical or else I report you. Easy as that.
prionse , rainking61, Chivalryaintdead , nekonorma , Homoclassicus , Worldtreader8 , triest12 , operagirl81, voce29, Papageno,Hannover, faustowene, Violetta, immo400, filaredo these are the you tube members on this page alone who appreciate and love Annaa singing. Your abusive, disrespectful, insulting comments are intolerable ( & thugman). When they call you NAZI I can see why. You need to stop. I will contact each of Annas fans on you tube and you will get a real WAR, COMPREHEND? STOP.
eradesso, since when abusive, disrespectful, insulting comments towards a hard working soprano who makes a lot people happy and gives her life to public serves a good purpose towards the art of Opera and the science of music? You have said awful things about Anna and we both know that.
aklev, I said it many times, she's pretty, she has a beautiful lyric timbre and I wish she stuck to the lyric roles. That is not bashing.
I also said many times, her high notes past D flat are 98% of time time off pitch and spread, she doesn't trill, she has a bad diction in French, she has breath issues on the florid passages as well as problems with staccati etc.
This is not bashing either. It's there to hear to whoever isn't blind, deaf or fanatic enough.
eradesso, You also said that Netrebko is a medioicricity and she needs to go back to mob floors. My question is what are your achievements? Other than your full time job of bashing successful soprano????
yes Aklev and I confirm it. 90% of her performances are mediocre because she doesn't have the technical preparation and also because she doesn't choose the right roles.
eradesso, you may bark here forever, nothing will change, Netrebko is still better than Dessay with her childish, unattractive voice. On top of that Dessay has no voice to perform any opera form beginning to end and whispers till the end to save fer stamina (Sonnambula HD 2009)
Aklev, thanks for always proving me right just like immo filaredo and co.
You have never heard Dessay live and you don't know any of the Operas she has sung other than Sonnambula simply because Netrebko hasn't (and can't!) sing Dessay's repertoire (because Dessay is a coloratura, Netrebko not).
Netrebko should really be embarassed for having fans like you. Complete ignorance of opera, music and art.
Dessay's debut was in 1989 when Netrebko wasn't even aware of Opera.
Natalie Dessay, in her continued progress towards greater artistry, still doesn't know what opera is about
- Sieglinde's Diaries MET critic:
In recent years, Dessay's top notes have been shrieky and metallic, cold, effortful, and generally unpleasant to the ear. The disdain she has for top notes is therefore understandable. She tends to compensate with buffoonish histrionics, overacting the pieces of meaning she gleans from the (mostly bankrupt) text.
eradesso, more on Dessay from - Sieglinde's Diaries MET critic
- She has seething contempt for the singing part of opera, and she just can't be bothered by canto for bel's sake. The implication being that beautiful voices are somehow incompatible with "a whole performance, of theatre with music." But she's right about one thing: they ought not to come to her performances expecting to hear beautiful voices, because there won't be any of that beauty shit getting in the way of her art.
eradesso, you would have dismissed anything against Dessay anyway. I was saying these things long time before I found this review - so shut up - this just to demonstrate what in real world Dessay's art means and that your Dessay is not so perfect and people do not like her because in her coloratura she screams, her voice is unpleasant and no one buys her CD's because she is boring - so digest it poor loser
unlike you sorkin, I don't need to read someone else's opinion to make my own.
There are MANY people here who luckily know opera for the technique and the style.
You keep mistaking me for a Dessay groupie but I'm no one's groupie.
I like many sopranos in very different repertoires. As I said early Dessay has ruled the coloratura roles I mentioned that doesn't mean I like everything she did or the way she did it.
You can make all mistakes you want but don't mistake me as someone similar to you!
Well all of you who bash Anna seems to be Dessay's groupies more or less. I will keep you informed what critics say about Dessay since in your strive for perfection in opera you seem to overlook the most most important characteristic - the instrument. By the way I have been saying that all along but you dismissed my humble opinion, so I have to find something that will make you realize (if ever) that no one is perfect, even your favorites.
Sorkin, a groupie is a fanatic of someone. Fanatic to the extent of saying unreal things and being all over the person.
That describes you not me. Where do you see fanatic comments of mine over Dessay's performances? Where do you see me denying her vocal decline coming from exploitation of her instrument?
You are claiming she doesn't have one and that Netrebko has got one - Denial is called.
You are claiming Netrebko's instrument is perfect - Lying is called.
Obviously the instrument isn't your top priority or else you'd have other sopranos as your favourite.
Your tastes are perfectly legit no one is arguing that. But don't come to us expecting us to bow and wow at Netrebko's performances for the purity of her singing.
I do dismiss your opinions because they are never based on facts.
eradesso, if you mean me, be sure my opinions are basing on facts. Netrebko is a beautiful singer with a wonderful voice. But she has the wrong coaches and managers. They exhaust her and don't tell her to have some breaks every singer needs. If she's following that way, she'll loose her voice in a couple of years. You will see!
No Pirare, I'm saying the same exact thing as you. I was referring to filaredo/sirkin/aklev/immo.
To what you said I would add that she has should stop trying big coloratura roles because she really doesn't have the skill either as vocal limitation of her instrument or else for bad coaching. Nevertheless she doesn't have the agility required by such scores nor a secure top. Anything beyond high D always turns out to be a major risk (all Traviatas with High E in the cadenza were off pitch)
eradesso, I agree, she should not sing those coloratura. She's good in lyric roles which are comfortable for her voice, like Bellini's "I Capuleti e i Montecchi". But people with less knowledge of singing want her to do so, because it sounds nice to their untrained ears. And that is what the music market wants todays, good looking singers and deaf loyal byer. 35 years ago she would not be as famous as today. Its a matter of active marketing measures!
LOL even if you don't like Dessay's voice, it wouldn't make Netrebko's voice technically perfect and suited for bel canto. She takes on bel canto roles because her lyric rep is too boring.
thugman30 and eradesso you pretend to know opera but I will have you know that a soprano without a voice is a complete disaster and "perfection" will never compensate for this. At the same time a soprano with a fabulous voice but with few technical problems is still a great soprano, and taking into account that Anna is still young, she will be even greater in time, so digest it poor losers! in your strive for perfection seem to overlook the most important characteristic - the instrument.
It's because they can accept opinions based on facts, unlike you who is so contented with Netrebko. Why don't you build up a website. Youtube is an open forum. Unfortunately, you give false accusations. I don't care if you accuse me of saying Netrebko has a bad diction in Russian because it's true. They are muffled and no clarity. And so are some unknown German or French singers who have bad dictions in their own languages. LOL LOL LOL Get some musical facts before you post more comments.
thugman30, I agree, if you say accurate diction has nothing to do with the nationality of a singer. I'm german and I know a lot of german singers with bad diction while singing in their own language.
thugman30, you are bashing and insulting Netrebko and you and everyone else knows it. It has nothing to do with expressing one's opinion on a public forum. I will make sure that people realize that. By the way Anna's diction in Russian is perfect. Even if it is not great in other languages it is a minor thing and only you think that it is an important characteristic of singing.
Netrebko can pronounce correct Russian but she can't sing without clarity. I love the challenge you write because it gives me the chance to reply more. LOL
Diction is one thing but she has too many flaws that when she sings, they all go together, so the output is very ugly. You can't understand that because you don't have a Musical knowledge and it's there for people to see because you don't give Musical facts to back up your vague opinion.
If there is a genius in any field there will always be a critic, a mediocrity who try to find flaws in seeming perfection. - that pertains to eradesso and his pal thugman30 they are working hard for years to insult Netrebko. thugman30 has demonstrated that he really is a psycho and a schizophrenic. He commented about Netrebko's bad diction while she was singing in Russian! These 2 psycho need to be restrained and send back to the kuku house, which they escaped from, as soon as possible!
I and dozens of other people explained to you many times that besides Anna's gorgeous voice, she is a great actress and she has a wonderful command of her flexible lyric voice. She has demonstrated some wonderful coloratura (although this is not her natural area). She is admired and loved by the whole world for a reason (cannot be attributed to her beauty alone). And if you do not appreciate her singing - go away! And let people enjoy the great talent that she is. Stop acting as a psycho.
Show me where she has command of her flexible lyric voice and above all where she demonstrates wonderful coloratura.
Show me, I want to see exactly what you pretend to claim. which opera, which role, which aria, which notes, which coloratura, which trills, which glissati, which messe di voce, which pianissimo, fortissimo, acciaccature, appoggiature.
Since you want to convince the world she's the best soprano of the 21st century. Show me how she is!
Oh wait, you can't do that because you know nothing of music. You're just a freaky weird insulting groupie who goes around the internet promoting a worthless person pasting bits of articles written by buyable and gullabe people like you.
For all self appointed critics here is what real critics have to say Looking as graceful as a gazelle and singing as sweetly as a bell struck with a surprising outburst of coloratura, Netrebkois at the tipping point of serious diva fame that has peoplecomparing her with Callas, Sutherland, Tebaldi and other opera goddesses past. She has that bel canto gift of singing like a windswept lark on a bright day, and an acting style combining the natural with the daring. NY Post Clive Barnes
Oh, yes, we heard that before! The fact that Dessay's voice is unattractive and is weak and childish, does not mean anything? Dessay's acting is bad, if not for music one will never distinguish between her Amina and Lucia. Oh, I forgot Dessay is ugly - that should be a plus! So, she got a "proper" training, so why then Dessay was booed at La Scala? Because people in Italy know a thing or two about beautiful singing, they mostly value the voice, and there Dessays perfect training meant nothing!
Um, I'm pretty sure all these people are amazing. I'd be happy to sing like Dessay OR Netrebko. (Although of course I'd prefer Nilsson.) And Dessay is a beast. A little beast, but still a beast.
Well, only those who can appreciate a real talent should like Neterbko. As to these people who got in to a habbit of bashing Anna all over youtube and lying about her success and great performances, I will be reminding them that in MY OPNION Dessays voice is much smaller than Netrebkos and her Mad scene was a complete overkill and that her Sonnambula and the rest of her performances are extremely boring. And that by the way there were lots of empty seats at Domrau's gorgeous Lucia at the MET.
immo4000 , that is correct! I also think that these few people are being paid by Dessay to post these comments. But I am so glad that we were able to uncover the plot!
I am sick and tired of peoples snide remarks and mediocre criticism. Someone said These people are all over You Tube and surface like rats out of a sewer, they bash Domingo too. If you cannot appreciate Netrebkos rare talent, turn away. Anna's has a unique, sophisticated voice with an incredible silver sound. It allows her to sing beautifully with a lovely free and easy top note. She sings at all major opera houses and has earned a fantastic SUCSESS. I feel lucky to exist in her time.
Yo vi a 3 sopranos interpretar esta produccion en el Met, el estreno con Dessay, despues con Annick Massis y por ultimo y la mejor Diana Damrau, solo me falto Netrebko pero por lo visto no me perdi de nada bueno.
I know, matt. It's bullshit. It's because Netrebko's a fraud, and a whore, and slept with the right person, and Damrau relies on her talent like the true class act she really is.
tjb286, Anna is a world-class singer with an amazing, silvery sound and a very sophisticated voice. She sings so very beautifully with a lovely free and easy top note. Her Lucia (MET 09) was sensational (of course because of her looks). Anna is the best soprano in the world and one has to be retarded to believe that this is because of her pretty face. Please, do not be ridiculous and do not try to make Anna responsible for Damraus non-popularuty. Damrau did not even make it to the top 20.
I was there the night that both she and Rolando Villazon were having those severe vocal issues and, to be honest, those were the highlights of the evening in that they provided SOME sort of entertainment. Netrebko is somewhat talented, and certainly very beautiful, but far too dull for my liking. Sitting through her Lucia was awkward, uncomfortablel, and most of all BORING. I wish I had been there to see Dessay or Damrau instead. They seem to have REAL passion.
Ma è vero o è uno scherzo???? Che roba è? Un' allieva di canto alla quale è stato consigliato di fare altro???? Mah.... Se questo è il futuro della lirica ci si chiede come mai poi uno si rifugia nei grandi (veri) del passato, con la Callas in testa.
Per essere dei soprano da Metropolitan, non basta avere una bella voce. Bisogna studiare, studiare e studiare, La Netrebko ha una voce non adatta al ruolo e poi non esegue ciò che è scritto nella partitura.
I was there and it was a great performance!Netrebko was wonderful and Beczala was outstanding.The audience wnet wild at the end and rightly so, Amost memorable performance.
Does anybody know why it is so rare to come across a production of Lucia where they actually play the mad scene traditionally with the glass harmonica? It is so cool to hear and really adds more feeling (or a different feeling?) to the scene. I wish the Met, being such a big opera house and the most famous house in the US, would use one. I mean, that's the way the opera was written anyhow.
Hehe you are right, they did! I just saw this production today at the movies. I was thrilled that they used the glass harmonica. :) It was awesome.
This is the best production of Lucia I have ever seen. Having the ghosts in the opera was the greatest idea. Definitely a memorable production!!! Hope it comes on DVD.
SHE IS THE BEST but you must SEE THE WHOLE SCENE. THE NUANCES, SUBTLETY, and craziness coming and going really was the BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN. Natalie, Damras etc all overact it; and their strength all seems the same throughout the scene; the variations of her performance.. WOW. I am a true Anna believer now...
She was an incredible surprise for everybody, even her detractors. I was expecting a great fiasco, but she was actually excellent, and considering our low expectations she came off as an amazing winner singing this Lucia. People call her lazy, but I doubt a lazy or careless person would have the ability to change so radically in vocal security, phrasing and acting in a couple of weeks. Her Lucia isn't legendary, but was wonderful. She's really brava, in the real sense of the word!
To me, Netrebko is to Lucia as Sarah Palin was (is) to politics. In her debate with Joe Biden, the expectations were so low, that when she scraped by without a total disaster, people praised it as excellent, when in reality it was just ok. I feel the same about Netrebko here. Yes, the HD broadcast wasn't a total train wreck, but it was a far cry from "amazing."
it's strange that netrebko stays on the balcony until the "fantasma" part, and natalie doesn't, she goes down the stairs even before beginning to sing
stagings of productions at the met always change. damrau stayed on the balcony till about the same time, so maybe they like it that way now? notice the costumes change slightly also.
Anna you are a great singer--but you are NOT a coloratura as seen here with your heavy voice/coloring/struggle to get to the top notes. You sound like Lucia's mother. Let us all check out Ruth Ann Swenson's posts to get educated on the real deal. Stick with Verdi, Ms. Netrebko!
windstorm1000 11 months ago
Lucia désastreuses en compagnie de son ami Rolando déjà au bout du rouleau. Le Surintendant du Met a eu des sueurs froides pendant ses soirées-naufrages ...
NemanjaFan 1 year ago
Beautiful beyond belief! Dear Anna, I can compare you to no one – with your lustrous, magnificent voice, your golden tone and stunning physical beauty – you a real Diva, and you are a goddess! Thank you for filling our lives with joy and happiness! I am so happy to exist in your time!
09avenger 1 year ago
@09avenger I fully agree with you! It's so beautiful and full of drama! Anna is unique with her wonderful, warm, rich, magical voice! She is a real Diva of our time! The brightest new star on the opera horizon! Bravissima Anna! Thank your for art!
serenaluce 1 year ago
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This is a great Lucia! This performance was broadcast in US on public TV many times. Her fabulous voice is wonderfully harmonized with orchestra and especially with flute. Amazing acting too – !!! Gorgeous, thank you Anna!
09avenger 1 year ago
Netrebko's Lucia is on CD (see Amazon) - Great performances at the MET! Anna Netrebko is the best voice of the decade (Washington Post)
09avenger 1 year ago
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
IrinaMataevaSucks 1 year ago
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Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
IrinaMataevaSucks 1 year ago
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Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
IrinaMataevaSucks 1 year ago
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Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed an ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to the bel canto opera.
IrinaMataevaSucks 1 year ago
Che emozione che mi suscita!
buttercup180 1 year ago
Perfect!
glitters22 2 years ago
Great Anna Netrebko
2bumpus 2 years ago
I've not seen many operas (yet), but this certainly was one of my favorites!
DeMantis 2 years ago
Netrebko's Lucia is on CD (see Amazon) - Great performances at the MET!
09avenger 2 years ago
Anna's Lucia is fantastic! It was regarded as "BEST PERFORMANCES AT THE MET" and shown on PBS (USA)
09avenger 2 years ago
Can we all just agree that Netrebko may not have the "best" voice ever but that she is a beautiful woman, with a beautiful voice, who acts beautifully and is charming and delightful to watch?
By the way, I love Dessay too - isn't it possible to like both? Why not?
jamarsano 2 years ago
Very nice interpretation !!
I think all the best orchestras and Maestros in the world may not be wrong.
ERUDITAE 2 years ago
They must be fans of Netrebko too.
glitters22 2 years ago
They are never wrong.
polarbear475 2 years ago
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spqrmor 2 years ago
I don't like this.
FlyingElephant20 2 years ago
Most losers hate Netrebko because they cannot stand her success.
The thing is, even if you bash Anna to your own death you will never became as famous as she. She has the most magnificent voice and all envy in the world cannot change this! There are reasons why she is where she is - so shut up! Who cares about your sick nitpicking of her performances? Come out and do better - then we will talk about Anna's flaws.
sorkin77 2 years ago
When is she gonna sing with a squillo? And I promise not to come back here anymore.
thugman30 2 years ago
For some reason there is a firestorm of controversy surrounding Netrebko. It has to be one of two reasons, nothing else.
First, she is being marketed, without having the real technical skills for Classical Opera experts. This must be angering the knowledgeable afficianados
of opera. Secondly this group ( Filaredo, Bellafredina, Sorkin, etc. ) must be enraging people with their Youtube campaign. If Netrebko is NOT behind all this, she should have her publicist make a statement!!
mtnmanjt 2 years ago
mtnmanjt , write to Netrebko and send her all of your dirty comments - I am sure her layer will be happy to see you. Someone still has to do that, you pathetic piece of shit
sorkin77 2 years ago
Hey Sorky, look what you just said against me!!! Maybe MY lawyer will be happy to see you!!!
mtnmanjt 2 years ago
Only ignorant fans would make up something like that. They gotta find a good teacher for Netrebko. They haven't thought about that. lol.
thugman30 2 years ago
mtnmanjt, lawyers do not like trash like you, go back to your ghetto
sorkin77 2 years ago
go back to Netrebko's ass you filthy fan.
thugman30 2 years ago
Your comments about Anna are not respectful, they are insulting and hateful. As you may understand there is no right and wrong in art, it is all very subjective, so your FACTS mean nothing as long as other people see them differently (rightfully so). You do not hear Anna's greatness? Fine. Do not listen and do not bash. Otherwise people will start doing the same to you. So how about Anna's fans right to enjoy her without thugmans, elephant's and eradessos pathetic comments on each page?
sorkin777 2 years ago
LEO the HYPOCRITE!!!
You are the devil behind the whole action against Anna Netrebko and blocks everybody which attacks your vassals (eradesso, Thugman etc.).
You should not play the serious, big opera expert then your intentions are more than shamelessly.
With hypocrisy and guile you will not destroy Anna - grandpa!
filaredo 2 years ago
This is disgusting! Not even good to look at!
leoperarm 2 years ago
Tell it yours haircutter!!! LOL
filaredo 2 years ago
Nice charade eradesso!
With 3 own names organise a small discussion group. Your music encyclopaedia is not bad, but one knows your rotten character and everybody knows the purpose of your staging.
You own the brazenness of a Nazi and the typical signs of a Marxist in your actions!!!
You stops at nothing to damage Anna Netrebko!!!
filaredo 2 years ago
filaredo, how this you tube specialist can damage Anna? He.she can do NOTHING to prevent her from being loved and admired by millions.
sorkin777 2 years ago
Filaredo, are you saying i am creating other IDs to defame a singer?
That is what you and aklev do.
I have this one username and of course you 2 don't even have an idea what it refers to.
Don't you see how it's you 2 freaks causing this hate thing? nobody here hates netrebko, we just hate you stubbon groupies who rather have Netrebko embarass herself as coloratura than being a true talen as a lyric soprano. Oh well suit yourself what the hell do I care about the 3 of you! lol
eradesso 2 years ago
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filaredo 2 years ago
... ... no belcanto. But it's, how I said, all a matter of taste...
People should be faithfully to themself to consider what is good or what is bad, even they are a fan of somebody.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Pyrare1, thanks, I agree with you a 100%.
Take care.
sorkin777 2 years ago
I'm just a little german "hobby tenor" (self-irony, LOL), but I actually know a lot of vocal technics, diction, breathing control, muscle movement and so on. And I know how very very hard it is to bring it up to perfection. It takes a lot of years to master it! And its a matter of taste to like or not like Netrebko, Dessay or other singer. I don't like Netrebko's version of Lucia, because of missing high notes and I don't like Dessay's version because of screaming and... ...
Pyrare1 2 years ago
I'm NOT one of those Netrebko haters, she has a beautifull voice. She talked herself about her poor technic and diction and is working hard on it. Perhaps that is the reason, she does NOT sing the high notes yet, because she might loose her voice. She had to cancel Salzburg Festival 2007 because of problems with her vocal chords, based on oversinging and incorrect technic. Before 2005 she sang all the high notes clear and precise. After her baby-break her voice sounds much more relaxed.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
I am not too but she has been promoted as the best soprano and I'm against Mediocrity. She was once a great singer when she was working hard in Russia (Ruslan and Lyudmila). When she became famous, she sang everything in poperatic style without any application of musical knowledge such as composer's style, depth in dynamics and etc etc so for many people, she's UNNATURAL to hear and obviously a very lazy singer because it shows in her voice (before & after).
thugman30 2 years ago
If unmusial people and ignorant people continue to adore her, I don't care. Let them enjoy a cheap and forgetable night of music but if she markets herself as a real opera singer and with all those very shallow CDs and DVDs without artistic quality, that's what you call Mediocrity. Deutsche Grammophon has lost its quality. They have shallow Lang Lang and scholarly playing Hilary Hahn but nothing special or musically artistic about her compared to example Janine Jansen who always shows her best.
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30, well, I'm also against mediocrity. A lot of young musican are victims of commerce. They where pushing on a way, they never wanted to go at their start. And the music industrie want to sell as much as possible. Sutherland needed 1 year to study the scores of Norma, Dassay and Netrebko had to do this in 3-5 months. The difference of quality is unvoidable. And than the teachers...wrong coach = average performence!
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Pyrare1, well Netrebko's Lucia (the one that was on HD) was very good, as a matter of fact it was regarded as a great performance at the MET by conductors, by critics and by public. thugman30 and eradesso's passion and hobby is to insult her and to bash, criticize all of her work. Annas has done wonderful performances, otherwise why would she still be performing at the best opera houses and be admired by millions? Thanks God nobody take seriously these 2 psychos who from you tube.
aklev77 2 years ago
aklev77, I'm NOT against Netrebko, she really has a wonderfull voice. But I guess, she has not the right coaches to train her diction and technic.
She had to cancel Salzburg Festival 2007 based on problems with her vocal chords. So I think, with the right coaches she will be better and better with the years. Other famous singer had to walk the same way. And onother fact is, she moves to much on stage. To much moving lets loose your breath control. But's that not hear ... ...
Pyrare1 2 years ago
... ... fault. Stage adviser have to know that!
Everyone has another taste and understanding for singing. I realy like it to share opinions with other people. But in a respectfull and factuel way. Nobody should earn violent insults for his own opinion!
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment, you sound as an experienced and knowledgeable person who does not mean to hurt anyones feelings. This is opposed to thugman30 and eradesso whose only life achievements are successful bashing of a great soprano. These 2 losers spend 24/7 on youtube insulting Netrebko.
aklev77 2 years ago
aklev, when i first commented Netrebko's music I was mentioning technical aspects only.
You (and your mates) attacked me on a personal level, insulting me with the most horrible aspects.
You do not understand that no one here is bashing Netrebko, we're bashing you rude freaky groupies.
There can't be positive discussion with you guys because:
1) you have no technical knowledge
2) you don't even want to recognize Netrebko's technical problems and reperteoire mistakes.
Don't blame me.
eradesso 2 years ago
technical aspects about Dessay only.
eradesso, you would have dismissed anything against Dessay anyway. I was saying these things long time before I found this review - so shut up - this just to demonstrate what in real world Dessay's art means and that your Dessay is not so perfect and people do not like her because in her coloratura she screams, her voice is unpleasant and no one buys her CD's because she is boring - so digest it poor loser
sorkin777 2 years ago
sorkin, you put the S in stupid.
And you even dare saying I am the one bashing someone. You are the one who's bashing Dessay without even knowing her. I told you 200 times about Dessay's vocal problems etc etc nevertheless she has made historical achievements leaving footprint in history as Lakmé, Queen of the Night, Konstanze, Ophelie, Olympia, Zerbinetta etc.
You have never even heard those operas because Netrebko can't/hasn't sung any of them.
Netrebko doesn't own any role she has sung.
eradesso 2 years ago
pyrare, the singer can make suggestions to the director if she wants to limit her movements during solos and especially I've seen the making of Manon rehearsal. She made a lot of suggestions to the director.
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30, ok...in that case it is her own fault. Look at other famous singers. It has a vocal technical reason to don't move on stage like a wild running chicken while singing. Am I right? :)
Pyrare1 2 years ago
It's hers and the directors too especially Vincent Paterson, who directed her MTVs and Manon with Villazon. I read about it that Paterson admitted that he got bored with the old tradition of the Opera and wanted a balance of great acting and "great" singing. The directors took advantage of her new image and charisma for the opera.
thugman30 2 years ago
You're right about the German singers. I just viewed a video of the German speaking Jonas Kaufmann who admitted he had to work on his German diction.
watch?v=QK2JeJnrvWw
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30, I know Jonas Kaufman, I studied with him at conservatory in Munich. His early lyric voice was much lighter. I think he is the best german tenor nowdays. And he has a nearly perfect german diction. But you must
have the right coach. I mean a german coach for german diction, a french coach for french diction and so on. That's the optimum. Even famous russian coaches are well known for their bad knowledge in other languages!
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Netrebko only has a bad diction in easier foreign languages such as Italian because of her technique. She pushes her voice too much so the words are muffled.
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30, that's the reason I've the opinion she has the wrong coaches. No singer can hear himself and his diction while singing. He has to feel it. And that's the job of a good coach to correct it. So, I say, with a perfect teacher she would sing nearly perfect at the end. And she has the possibilities to do.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Yes, a grerat coach. She studied with Scotto but Scotto isn't one of the best singers. Now, I think she has a different coach, a Russian.
thugman30 2 years ago
Scotto was actually a great soprano - a lyric soprano who had much better access to coloratura. She had ups and downs like everyone else.
I do blame coaches for Netrebko's mistakes but above all I blame her label and the houses like Met etc.
Do you think Netrebko would sing the perfect role for her as Micaela to someone else's Carmen? Fat chance in hell. She is and is expected to be a primadonna so she's only sold for primadonna roles.
eradesso 2 years ago
hm...but Scotto has the kowledge to teach her. Some great singers are bad teachers, but Renata Scotto belongs to the best teachers for sopranos. If it's true, that her coach now is Russian, you know my opinion about diction...
Pyrare1 2 years ago
yes i've seen her coach on the deutsche grammophone video for the new cd.. and just who the heck is that woman??
maybe someone who (unlike Scotto) didn't try to discourage Netrebko from singing such different (and wrong) roles? That woman in the video even brags about how they made her sing roles from mezzo to soprano lol
whoo hoo good for you woman! thank god pitch problems can always be corrected with computers while studio recording... but on stage???
eradesso 2 years ago
She should sing Madame Butterfly, Pamina, Micaela, Antonia, Liù, Nedda, Lauretta, Mignon etc.
And she should sing LESS. Right now it may seem cool to her to be cast so much all over the world but in the end she will understand it was a bad choice when the voice will be gone 30 years earlier than it could have (look at Devia, 61 years old in better vocal shape than a 30yo)
Netrebko should ain at being a new Mirella Freni not a new Maria Callas.
eradesso 2 years ago
oh no eradesso, she has a Russian-style education, not an Italien-style. Netrebko should be herself, beeing a new Netrebko. It sounds always boring to me, if some people say like in media :"Oh, we have a new Callas" or "Pilar Lorengar has reburn". That doesn't fit. Poor Singer who is involved in such situations!
Pyrare1 2 years ago
I was saying repertoire-wise.
eradesso 2 years ago
I agree about your comment on my page about Dmitri Hvorostovsky on this video- watch?v=Ey09Z6rczc4&feature=related. He isn't one of the best. He just released a kinda weird MTV ala Bocelli. Check this out- watch?v=iPboqaq14Eo
thugman30 2 years ago
@Thugman30
Bizarre...he has to show his muscle body...hehe
I don't like him in this case...
Pyrare1 2 years ago
but I prefer his tone to Schrott.
thugman30 2 years ago
@thugman30
Yes, compared to him Schrott is a little lamp...
Dmitri was great in Eugene Onegin and Queen of Spades. Bryn Terfel and Samuel Ramey agreed in Interwiews: his "Ja vas lyublyu"-aria as Prince Yeletsky is unmatched the last 35 years.
An example:
watch?v=W8zKkvGB7Rw
Pyrare1 2 years ago
I agree. I just don't like Dmitri's mtv. It's stupid and shallow when they do that. Neither the voice is good on that mtv. Groban sounds better on that mtv.
thugman30 2 years ago
@thugman30
Yes Groban's voice sounds lighter and more mobile on mtv. Its pleasanter to hear.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
I agree, she should sing less. I remember that coach now. lol
thugman30 2 years ago
I mean in French and German too, she has to learn and work on her technique. Yes, I remember Jonas' voice was different back then and today he's more of a baritone or spinto.
thugman30 2 years ago
If "diction-freaks" like Lotte Lehman or Elisabeth Schwarzkopf would hear some today's famous singers and their diction, thei would move in their graves!!! R.I.P.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
I agree. I don't even see Leontyne Price or Joan Sutherland meeting her or take a picture beside her.
thugman30 2 years ago
aklev77 2 years ago
You just pasted a list of roles she did. Most of which were not appropriate for her voice.
And again, you are escaping the detailed answers. Because you can't give them.
You can't spot the difference between a crescendo and a diminuendo.
Bye real ignorant of the two ;)
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, these are the roles that I love and these are not all of them. Her fabulous, sophisticated, round, velvety, golden voice with an effortless and easy top note has doubled in the last few years. You predicted that she would loose it or that she is close to loosing it. You are dead wrong. She sings better and better. She is being admired by the worlds musical community, even if she is not perfect (no one is), but you entitled to your usual nitpicking, Everyone is REALLY TIRED OF YOU. Bye
aklev77 2 years ago
Again nothing technical. Mentioning her top notes was the worst choice you could make since most of her notes above high D are never on pitch when sustained. But what would a groupie like you know. I'm bored with your ignorance.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, I am not obssesed with the high notes as you are. I hate when Dessay does it. The sound is not pleasant at all (same with Domray). The only one who had a great high note was Sutherland but she is out. I LOVE Anna's top D flat, and her sophisticaled flexible voice. You do not? Go away!!!!!
aklev77 2 years ago
Aklev, of course you are not obsessed with high notes or anything else that Netrebko can't do which doesn't leave much to be appreciated really.
For the record, Sutherland didn't have anything solid past High E so she's not the best example of great high notes as would be for example Deutekom or Moser who you don't know of course.
Moreover, you keep showing your ignorance and littleness by keeping (intentionally) mispelling Damrau's name.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, someone said here on you tubea while ago : "eradesso, let me tell you from all my heart - you are an idio!t" - and after coming to know you I do think that this is the only and the best way of replying to you. F... the hell off! COMPREHEND?
aklev77 2 years ago
aklev, you know me as much as you know opera so in other words you know nothing of either at all.
and just so you know, i did file complaint with youtube for your rude posts that infringe the community rules of youtube so keep up with messages like these and you will be banned. comprendi??? :)
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso , THIS IS FUNNY, thugman30 and you are the victims here, xa xa xa !
I am gald that you can feel a little bit of what you are doing to others at least.
sorkin777 2 years ago
eradesso, I have my mailbox full of your supercilious, arrogant, rude and insulting messages, so please be aware that you are not an angel yourself.
aklev77 2 years ago
aklev & sorkin (same person in disguise) i've never really insulted you personally to the extent of telling you to F* off. That is what you do with me and anyone else who critiques Netrebko because you don't know how to articulate a musical debate. Suit yourself.
I'm not playing victim but I'm not keen on you and your other mate filaredo/immo getting personally rude and outrageous with the nazi comments so you either keep it musical or else I report you. Easy as that.
eradesso 2 years ago
and for the record, i have never sent you a message. don't misrepresent facts.
eradesso 2 years ago
prionse , rainking61, Chivalryaintdead , nekonorma , Homoclassicus , Worldtreader8 , triest12 , operagirl81, voce29, Papageno,Hannover, faustowene, Violetta, immo400, filaredo these are the you tube members on this page alone who appreciate and love Annaa singing. Your abusive, disrespectful, insulting comments are intolerable ( & thugman). When they call you NAZI I can see why. You need to stop. I will contact each of Annas fans on you tube and you will get a real WAR, COMPREHEND? STOP.
aklev77 2 years ago
Are you threatening me? It's exactly this kind of behavious that the management of youtube punishes by banning people.
I don't see how saying Netrebko is off pitch on high notes is insulting to anyone.
You and your friends saying the opposite is insultings towards the art of Opera and the science of music.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, since when abusive, disrespectful, insulting comments towards a hard working soprano who makes a lot people happy and gives her life to public serves a good purpose towards the art of Opera and the science of music? You have said awful things about Anna and we both know that.
aklev77 2 years ago
aklev, I said it many times, she's pretty, she has a beautiful lyric timbre and I wish she stuck to the lyric roles. That is not bashing.
I also said many times, her high notes past D flat are 98% of time time off pitch and spread, she doesn't trill, she has a bad diction in French, she has breath issues on the florid passages as well as problems with staccati etc.
This is not bashing either. It's there to hear to whoever isn't blind, deaf or fanatic enough.
And we both know that.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, You also said that Netrebko is a medioicricity and she needs to go back to mob floors. My question is what are your achievements? Other than your full time job of bashing successful soprano????
aklev77 2 years ago
yes Aklev and I confirm it. 90% of her performances are mediocre because she doesn't have the technical preparation and also because she doesn't choose the right roles.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, you may bark here forever, nothing will change, Netrebko is still better than Dessay with her childish, unattractive voice. On top of that Dessay has no voice to perform any opera form beginning to end and whispers till the end to save fer stamina (Sonnambula HD 2009)
aklev77 2 years ago
Aklev, thanks for always proving me right just like immo filaredo and co.
You have never heard Dessay live and you don't know any of the Operas she has sung other than Sonnambula simply because Netrebko hasn't (and can't!) sing Dessay's repertoire (because Dessay is a coloratura, Netrebko not).
Netrebko should really be embarassed for having fans like you. Complete ignorance of opera, music and art.
Dessay's debut was in 1989 when Netrebko wasn't even aware of Opera.
eradesso 2 years ago
Natalie Dessay, in her continued progress towards greater artistry, still doesn't know what opera is about
- Sieglinde's Diaries MET critic:
In recent years, Dessay's top notes have been shrieky and metallic, cold, effortful, and generally unpleasant to the ear. The disdain she has for top notes is therefore understandable. She tends to compensate with buffoonish histrionics, overacting the pieces of meaning she gleans from the (mostly bankrupt) text.
more ....
aklev77 2 years ago
oh surprise surprise the opera expert Aklev is pasting another article from someone else....
surprise surprise bwahahhahahaha
you are so ridiculous it's insane!
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, more on Dessay from - Sieglinde's Diaries MET critic
- She has seething contempt for the singing part of opera, and she just can't be bothered by canto for bel's sake. The implication being that beautiful voices are somehow incompatible with "a whole performance, of theatre with music." But she's right about one thing: they ought not to come to her performances expecting to hear beautiful voices, because there won't be any of that beauty shit getting in the way of her art.
sorkin777 2 years ago
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sorkin777 2 years ago
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eradesso, you would have dismissed anything against Dessay anyway. I was saying these things long time before I found this review - so shut up - this just to demonstrate what in real world Dessay's art means and that your Dessay is not so perfect and people do not like her because in her coloratura she screams, her voice is unpleasant and no one buys her CD's because she is boring - so digest it poor loser
sorkin777 2 years ago
eradesso, if you read what critics in real world write about Dessay you will wake up from your long dream, may be ....
sorkin777 2 years ago
unlike you sorkin, I don't need to read someone else's opinion to make my own.
There are MANY people here who luckily know opera for the technique and the style.
You keep mistaking me for a Dessay groupie but I'm no one's groupie.
I like many sopranos in very different repertoires. As I said early Dessay has ruled the coloratura roles I mentioned that doesn't mean I like everything she did or the way she did it.
You can make all mistakes you want but don't mistake me as someone similar to you!
eradesso 2 years ago
Well all of you who bash Anna seems to be Dessay's groupies more or less. I will keep you informed what critics say about Dessay since in your strive for perfection in opera you seem to overlook the most most important characteristic - the instrument. By the way I have been saying that all along but you dismissed my humble opinion, so I have to find something that will make you realize (if ever) that no one is perfect, even your favorites.
sorkin777 2 years ago
Sorkin, a groupie is a fanatic of someone. Fanatic to the extent of saying unreal things and being all over the person.
That describes you not me. Where do you see fanatic comments of mine over Dessay's performances? Where do you see me denying her vocal decline coming from exploitation of her instrument?
You are claiming she doesn't have one and that Netrebko has got one - Denial is called.
You are claiming Netrebko's instrument is perfect - Lying is called.
eradesso 2 years ago
Obviously the instrument isn't your top priority or else you'd have other sopranos as your favourite.
Your tastes are perfectly legit no one is arguing that. But don't come to us expecting us to bow and wow at Netrebko's performances for the purity of her singing.
I do dismiss your opinions because they are never based on facts.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, if you mean me, be sure my opinions are basing on facts. Netrebko is a beautiful singer with a wonderful voice. But she has the wrong coaches and managers. They exhaust her and don't tell her to have some breaks every singer needs. If she's following that way, she'll loose her voice in a couple of years. You will see!
Pyrare1 2 years ago
No Pirare, I'm saying the same exact thing as you. I was referring to filaredo/sirkin/aklev/immo.
To what you said I would add that she has should stop trying big coloratura roles because she really doesn't have the skill either as vocal limitation of her instrument or else for bad coaching. Nevertheless she doesn't have the agility required by such scores nor a secure top. Anything beyond high D always turns out to be a major risk (all Traviatas with High E in the cadenza were off pitch)
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, I agree, she should not sing those coloratura. She's good in lyric roles which are comfortable for her voice, like Bellini's "I Capuleti e i Montecchi". But people with less knowledge of singing want her to do so, because it sounds nice to their untrained ears. And that is what the music market wants todays, good looking singers and deaf loyal byer. 35 years ago she would not be as famous as today. Its a matter of active marketing measures!
Pyrare1 2 years ago
LOL even if you don't like Dessay's voice, it wouldn't make Netrebko's voice technically perfect and suited for bel canto. She takes on bel canto roles because her lyric rep is too boring.
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30 and eradesso you pretend to know opera but I will have you know that a soprano without a voice is a complete disaster and "perfection" will never compensate for this. At the same time a soprano with a fabulous voice but with few technical problems is still a great soprano, and taking into account that Anna is still young, she will be even greater in time, so digest it poor losers! in your strive for perfection seem to overlook the most important characteristic - the instrument.
sorkin777 2 years ago
It's because they can accept opinions based on facts, unlike you who is so contented with Netrebko. Why don't you build up a website. Youtube is an open forum. Unfortunately, you give false accusations. I don't care if you accuse me of saying Netrebko has a bad diction in Russian because it's true. They are muffled and no clarity. And so are some unknown German or French singers who have bad dictions in their own languages. LOL LOL LOL Get some musical facts before you post more comments.
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30, I agree, if you say accurate diction has nothing to do with the nationality of a singer. I'm german and I know a lot of german singers with bad diction while singing in their own language.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Thanks Pyrare1.
thugman30 2 years ago
thugman30, you are bashing and insulting Netrebko and you and everyone else knows it. It has nothing to do with expressing one's opinion on a public forum. I will make sure that people realize that. By the way Anna's diction in Russian is perfect. Even if it is not great in other languages it is a minor thing and only you think that it is an important characteristic of singing.
aklev77 2 years ago
Netrebko can pronounce correct Russian but she can't sing without clarity. I love the challenge you write because it gives me the chance to reply more. LOL
thugman30 2 years ago
Diction is one thing but she has too many flaws that when she sings, they all go together, so the output is very ugly. You can't understand that because you don't have a Musical knowledge and it's there for people to see because you don't give Musical facts to back up your vague opinion.
thugman30 2 years ago
If there is a genius in any field there will always be a critic, a mediocrity who try to find flaws in seeming perfection. - that pertains to eradesso and his pal thugman30 they are working hard for years to insult Netrebko. thugman30 has demonstrated that he really is a psycho and a schizophrenic. He commented about Netrebko's bad diction while she was singing in Russian! These 2 psycho need to be restrained and send back to the kuku house, which they escaped from, as soon as possible!
aklev77 2 years ago
so this one is the new message you go pasting all over youtube now? lol lol lol
go take some music lessons you freaky groupie!
eradesso 2 years ago
I and dozens of other people explained to you many times that besides Anna's gorgeous voice, she is a great actress and she has a wonderful command of her flexible lyric voice. She has demonstrated some wonderful coloratura (although this is not her natural area). She is admired and loved by the whole world for a reason (cannot be attributed to her beauty alone). And if you do not appreciate her singing - go away! And let people enjoy the great talent that she is. Stop acting as a psycho.
aklev77 2 years ago
Show me where she has command of her flexible lyric voice and above all where she demonstrates wonderful coloratura.
Show me, I want to see exactly what you pretend to claim. which opera, which role, which aria, which notes, which coloratura, which trills, which glissati, which messe di voce, which pianissimo, fortissimo, acciaccature, appoggiature.
Since you want to convince the world she's the best soprano of the 21st century. Show me how she is!
eradesso 2 years ago
Oh wait, you can't do that because you know nothing of music. You're just a freaky weird insulting groupie who goes around the internet promoting a worthless person pasting bits of articles written by buyable and gullabe people like you.
eradesso 2 years ago
For all self appointed critics here is what real critics have to say Looking as graceful as a gazelle and singing as sweetly as a bell struck with a surprising outburst of coloratura, Netrebkois at the tipping point of serious diva fame that has peoplecomparing her with Callas, Sutherland, Tebaldi and other opera goddesses past. She has that bel canto gift of singing like a windswept lark on a bright day, and an acting style combining the natural with the daring. NY Post Clive Barnes
aklev77 2 years ago
She has a dynamic range of a popera, a very flawed technique and doesn't do justice and respect to the Opera.
thugman30 2 years ago
que gordaaaaaaaa, sera por el embarazo?
cantanteporsiempre 2 years ago
Oh, yes, we heard that before! The fact that Dessay's voice is unattractive and is weak and childish, does not mean anything? Dessay's acting is bad, if not for music one will never distinguish between her Amina and Lucia. Oh, I forgot Dessay is ugly - that should be a plus! So, she got a "proper" training, so why then Dessay was booed at La Scala? Because people in Italy know a thing or two about beautiful singing, they mostly value the voice, and there Dessays perfect training meant nothing!
aklev77 2 years ago
Um, I'm pretty sure all these people are amazing. I'd be happy to sing like Dessay OR Netrebko. (Although of course I'd prefer Nilsson.) And Dessay is a beast. A little beast, but still a beast.
CrystalFlames 2 years ago
Well, only those who can appreciate a real talent should like Neterbko. As to these people who got in to a habbit of bashing Anna all over youtube and lying about her success and great performances, I will be reminding them that in MY OPNION Dessays voice is much smaller than Netrebkos and her Mad scene was a complete overkill and that her Sonnambula and the rest of her performances are extremely boring. And that by the way there were lots of empty seats at Domrau's gorgeous Lucia at the MET.
sorkin777 2 years ago
If you don't like Netrebko why do you keep watching her videos? Go watch your favourites and keep your insulting and retarded comments for yourself!
Violetta1 2 years ago
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Violetta1 2 years ago
Dessay is the best Lucia
eternaldarkfaery666 2 years ago
You are right and I know still 2 people in the whole world those are your opinion - the parents of Dessay!
immo4000 2 years ago
immo4000 , that is correct! I also think that these few people are being paid by Dessay to post these comments. But I am so glad that we were able to uncover the plot!
sorkin777 2 years ago
I am sick and tired of peoples snide remarks and mediocre criticism. Someone said These people are all over You Tube and surface like rats out of a sewer, they bash Domingo too. If you cannot appreciate Netrebkos rare talent, turn away. Anna's has a unique, sophisticated voice with an incredible silver sound. It allows her to sing beautifully with a lovely free and easy top note. She sings at all major opera houses and has earned a fantastic SUCSESS. I feel lucky to exist in her time.
aklev77 2 years ago
Netrebko, show me some tits!
thugman30 2 years ago
Yo vi a 3 sopranos interpretar esta produccion en el Met, el estreno con Dessay, despues con Annick Massis y por ultimo y la mejor Diana Damrau, solo me falto Netrebko pero por lo visto no me perdi de nada bueno.
verdiotello 2 years ago
Siempre posteas lo mismo?
tochidule 2 years ago
Y algun Problema con eso???
Tu viste en vivo alguna funcion de estas??
verdiotello 2 years ago
Netrebka Basta de robar con lucias ,puritanis y demas no podes con los sobreagudos Vas a reventar y admitilo sos GORDA .....
ortruda2009 2 years ago
Es Netrebko tio de mierda!!!
tochidule 2 years ago
I wish I coulda seen Diana's....
britters2010 2 years ago
Why didn't Damrau get the Broadcast?!?!?!
SuperStar2999 2 years ago
I know, matt. It's bullshit. It's because Netrebko's a fraud, and a whore, and slept with the right person, and Damrau relies on her talent like the true class act she really is.
tjb286 2 years ago
tjb286, Anna is a world-class singer with an amazing, silvery sound and a very sophisticated voice. She sings so very beautifully with a lovely free and easy top note. Her Lucia (MET 09) was sensational (of course because of her looks). Anna is the best soprano in the world and one has to be retarded to believe that this is because of her pretty face. Please, do not be ridiculous and do not try to make Anna responsible for Damraus non-popularuty. Damrau did not even make it to the top 20.
sorkin777 2 years ago
Perhaps some day she'll get it. I have a premonition.
Fairpavel 2 years ago
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immo4000 2 years ago
She just had a kid before you and hello she is consider the beautiful gal in opera today.
classicalgal14 2 years ago
BAD ACTING !
prefer dessay !
KOKAYT1 2 years ago
Totaly agree...
Dessay is a great actress (and what a voice!), Netrebko's definitely not.
MegaCawotte 2 years ago
I completely agree.
I was there the night that both she and Rolando Villazon were having those severe vocal issues and, to be honest, those were the highlights of the evening in that they provided SOME sort of entertainment. Netrebko is somewhat talented, and certainly very beautiful, but far too dull for my liking. Sitting through her Lucia was awkward, uncomfortablel, and most of all BORING. I wish I had been there to see Dessay or Damrau instead. They seem to have REAL passion.
uggy999 2 years ago
Ma è vero o è uno scherzo???? Che roba è? Un' allieva di canto alla quale è stato consigliato di fare altro???? Mah.... Se questo è il futuro della lirica ci si chiede come mai poi uno si rifugia nei grandi (veri) del passato, con la Callas in testa.
voncarmelo 2 years ago
yeh, I think you're a bit right there, I like her voice but the acting / the whole is not that good
moniquetb 2 years ago
Per essere dei soprano da Metropolitan, non basta avere una bella voce. Bisogna studiare, studiare e studiare, La Netrebko ha una voce non adatta al ruolo e poi non esegue ciò che è scritto nella partitura.
voncarmelo 2 years ago
netrebko is awesome!!!
faustowene 2 years ago
Wunderschön gesungen!!!! So farbenreich und warm
PapagenoHannover 2 years ago
I was there and it was a great performance!Netrebko was wonderful and Beczala was outstanding.The audience wnet wild at the end and rightly so, Amost memorable performance.
voce29 2 years ago
Does anybody know why it is so rare to come across a production of Lucia where they actually play the mad scene traditionally with the glass harmonica? It is so cool to hear and really adds more feeling (or a different feeling?) to the scene. I wish the Met, being such a big opera house and the most famous house in the US, would use one. I mean, that's the way the opera was written anyhow.
operagirl81 2 years ago
Hi, As I understand they used a glass harmonica in this production.
moniquetb 2 years ago
They used it for sure last season.
joeboo36 2 years ago
Hehe you are right, they did! I just saw this production today at the movies. I was thrilled that they used the glass harmonica. :) It was awesome.
This is the best production of Lucia I have ever seen. Having the ghosts in the opera was the greatest idea. Definitely a memorable production!!! Hope it comes on DVD.
operagirl81 2 years ago
SHE IS THE BEST but you must SEE THE WHOLE SCENE. THE NUANCES, SUBTLETY, and craziness coming and going really was the BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN. Natalie, Damras etc all overact it; and their strength all seems the same throughout the scene; the variations of her performance.. WOW. I am a true Anna believer now...
Worldtreader8 2 years ago
it was terrificly beautiful, live and via met hd! I saw both and got goose pimples twice; such a stunning performance, like honey... mad honey! :)
triest12 2 years ago
sorry, but here damras has the edge! glorious coloratura and the right personality
mariahelleberg 2 years ago
Brava ni brava... Vaya mierda!
coralrabida 2 years ago
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CorinkaTeja 3 years ago
netrebko y villazón son los más patéticos en la actualidad.
coralrabida 3 years ago
brava
pasielu 3 years ago
She was an incredible surprise for everybody, even her detractors. I was expecting a great fiasco, but she was actually excellent, and considering our low expectations she came off as an amazing winner singing this Lucia. People call her lazy, but I doubt a lazy or careless person would have the ability to change so radically in vocal security, phrasing and acting in a couple of weeks. Her Lucia isn't legendary, but was wonderful. She's really brava, in the real sense of the word!
Homoclassicus 3 years ago
To me, Netrebko is to Lucia as Sarah Palin was (is) to politics. In her debate with Joe Biden, the expectations were so low, that when she scraped by without a total disaster, people praised it as excellent, when in reality it was just ok. I feel the same about Netrebko here. Yes, the HD broadcast wasn't a total train wreck, but it was a far cry from "amazing."
LeNozze44 2 years ago
Nothing to say!! Soooo great!!
nekonorma 3 years ago
Am 7.02. war ANNA ganz hervorragend.
Wenn die Produktion veröffentlicht wird, kaufe ich mir sofort eine DVD.
dvedas 3 years ago
Thanks for posting. I recommend removing the met opera's name from the description - a bunch of mine got taken down... ;)
Luindriel 3 years ago
I really like her acting of madness. Dessay is way to hysterical for my taste. She acted peacefully, romantically... wonderful!
prionse 3 years ago
it's strange that netrebko stays on the balcony until the "fantasma" part, and natalie doesn't, she goes down the stairs even before beginning to sing
DessayBestSinger 3 years ago
stagings of productions at the met always change. damrau stayed on the balcony till about the same time, so maybe they like it that way now? notice the costumes change slightly also.
JuillHope17 3 years ago