@thedreamliner2012 I just want to add that the Human mind IS very developed to operate in 3D space. Thats the very reason we have 2 eyes in the front of our heads so we are able to visualize space in 3D. As a flight instructor if a student has experience playing sports like basketball, football, track etc I notice they have a higher ability to anylize 3D space and better hand eye coordination. Also video gamers.
@thedreamliner2012 Also This new generation of pilot using too much GPS and Automation is actually making WORSE pilots. I teach students all the time that have no stick and rudder skill. When things fail you must still have basic skills and IFR scans. So letting the autopilot do the work is fine but going up and getting some hands on hood time is always a good idea. You were right dreamliner!
1. Flying is natural to humans, else we would not be so good at it.
2. The human mind is very adept at processing 3-D thought. 2-D and 1-D are what gives us trouble, because we can't use all our senses like we are inclined to.
3. Smooth flights are NOT boring, they are the goal. Ask any pilot.
4. The only reason to fly manual is to keep your skills sharp in case of emegency. Most use autopilot
@beergut111 Its the RVR that makes it CAT II. Decision height doesn't factor in because they have the lights before hitting real IMC, but on the ground it looks like its pretty close the the ~1000 ft limit of CAT II.
Great landing. I know you have to be as pilot to trust your systems (ILS,LOC) for 100 procent but to be honest: it's still pretty scary to make a CAT II or even a CAT III landing for a pilot, right?
- Can you tell me some more about what's DA and RVR? What is it and for what does it stands for? Thanks in advantage! =)
Great landing. I know you have to be as pilot to trust your systems (ILS,LOC) for 100 procent but to be honest: it's still pretty scary to make a CAT II or even a CAT III landing for a pilot, right?
@LufthansaA343 CAT III Instrument Landing Category III Flight Conditions (700 foot visible range at ground level) the pilots let the plane land itself in cat III landings they use ILS
@efastMixer YES,THE CAT1 IS DA200FT AND RVR 1800FT;CAT2 IS DA100FT AND RVR 1200FT,CAT3A IS DA LESS THAN 100FT AND RVR 700FT,CAT3B IS DA LESS THAN 50FT AND RVR BETWEEN 700 AND 150FT,CAT3C IS DA 0 AND RVR 0.
I was the captain on the flight. It's now many years ago - I moved on to some bigger equipment.
It's a Dornier 328 Turboprop. If I remember correctly we used normal approach speeds. But turbine 1310 is quite correct, there was something like icing speeds on the Dornier.
If it looks fast, the pilots are probably using residual ice speeds - usually another 10knots. If the fog is freezing fog then any ice formed will not fall off in time or it may form on the already cold wings as the aircraft descends into the moist layer. It is a turbprop with not CAT3 autoland. The AP is disconnected at 80 feet on a CAT2 approach. The gotcha is the sightline angle allowing you to see the runway through the fog until you get closer, then you loose sight of it the last mile.
nkcrime, its interesting that you said that because in fog like that you actually want to land faster becasue you could go in to a stall and plus farther out you migt not see the runway so its always safer to be fast. i had to learn the hard way after stalling my cessna right in front of the runway breaking my leg. lol
i landed in munich in the fog feb. 08. we thought we hit a rough patch of turbulence, but we had actually landed. it was so thick we couldn't see the ground from the plane as we had landed. it was nuts.
smooth one
quadpumped 1 month ago
1. Seems natural to me
2. I stand corrected
3. Thank you
4. I stand corrected
5. I gave you credit for being right the first time.
thedreamliner2012 1 month ago
@thedreamliner2012 I just want to add that the Human mind IS very developed to operate in 3D space. Thats the very reason we have 2 eyes in the front of our heads so we are able to visualize space in 3D. As a flight instructor if a student has experience playing sports like basketball, football, track etc I notice they have a higher ability to anylize 3D space and better hand eye coordination. Also video gamers.
cobrala 1 month ago
@thedreamliner2012 Also This new generation of pilot using too much GPS and Automation is actually making WORSE pilots. I teach students all the time that have no stick and rudder skill. When things fail you must still have basic skills and IFR scans. So letting the autopilot do the work is fine but going up and getting some hands on hood time is always a good idea. You were right dreamliner!
cobrala 1 month ago
omg very nice landing
BlacksWars 2 months ago
Dear All,
I have some questions about psychology:
(1) Why do we love flying?
(2) Why do many of us want to be a pilot?
(3) Why do we enjoy to have chanllenge flying instead of smooth flying?
(4) Why do many pilot like to have manual control ladning instead of auto-landing?
THANK YOU IN ADAVNCE for your creative ideas and brainstorm!!! :)
P.S. What is the difference between Cat II & Cat III?
applesweeter 3 months ago
@applesweeter Here are my answers, though I'm not an expert.
1) Flying is not something that humans naturally do. It's an escape from our typical world.
2) Controlling an aircraft in 3 dimensional space is complicated and those ppl realize that, and have great respect for pilots.
3) We all want a challenge. Smooth flights are boring. We remember the challenging flights longer.
4) Call them control freaks. It's about pride.
5) They refer to weather minimums. Check wikipedia.
greasemonkey981 1 month ago
1. Flying is natural to humans, else we would not be so good at it.
2. The human mind is very adept at processing 3-D thought. 2-D and 1-D are what gives us trouble, because we can't use all our senses like we are inclined to.
3. Smooth flights are NOT boring, they are the goal. Ask any pilot.
4. The only reason to fly manual is to keep your skills sharp in case of emegency. Most use autopilot
5. Your exactly right.
thedreamliner2012 1 month ago
and a soft landing :-)
KraemerHans 3 months ago
i love when you search for catIII landings, 70% of the landings are in MUC xD
erikgrinsvall 3 months ago
nice video but its not a cat II. thats almost VFR weather there.
beergut111 5 months ago
@beergut111 Its the RVR that makes it CAT II. Decision height doesn't factor in because they have the lights before hitting real IMC, but on the ground it looks like its pretty close the the ~1000 ft limit of CAT II.
globb14 1 month ago
Please correct if I'm wrong. I just started my instrument work, and this seems like the kind of thing they'd put on the written.
globb14 1 month ago
Perfect!
757mech1 6 months ago
cool!
matthiashaenni 9 months ago
extremly smooth landing.
But, I´ve never seen munich so foggy D:
FlugSimulatorXfan 9 months ago
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Vorox144 10 months ago
Great landing. I know you have to be as pilot to trust your systems (ILS,LOC) for 100 procent but to be honest: it's still pretty scary to make a CAT II or even a CAT III landing for a pilot, right?
- Can you tell me some more about what's DA and RVR? What is it and for what does it stands for? Thanks in advantage! =)
KLMAirSwan 1 year ago
Great landing. I know you have to be as pilot to trust your systems (ILS,LOC) for 100 procent but to be honest: it's still pretty scary to make a CAT II or even a CAT III landing for a pilot, right?
KLMAirSwan 1 year ago
@JHAAMYEESS Thanks alot !
LufthansaA343 1 year ago
could anyone tell me what all the different CAT s are?
LufthansaA343 1 year ago
@LufthansaA343 CAT III Instrument Landing Category III Flight Conditions (700 foot visible range at ground level) the pilots let the plane land itself in cat III landings they use ILS
Vorox144 10 months ago
good i like
flight9128 1 year ago
very good landing!
MegaPlanespotter 1 year ago
Is it normal for the autopilot disengaged at tha hight???
mrganchos 1 year ago
what's the difference between CAT III and CAT II?
efastMixer 1 year ago
@efastMixer 50 FT :P
larrybueno 1 year ago
@larrybueno in decision height?
efastMixer 1 year ago
@efastMixer YES,THE CAT1 IS DA200FT AND RVR 1800FT;CAT2 IS DA100FT AND RVR 1200FT,CAT3A IS DA LESS THAN 100FT AND RVR 700FT,CAT3B IS DA LESS THAN 50FT AND RVR BETWEEN 700 AND 150FT,CAT3C IS DA 0 AND RVR 0.
ALL CAT3 LANDINGS MUST BE AN AUTOLAND.
larrybueno 1 year ago
it sounds like a steam-train..xD
fraekkchen 1 year ago
o, i love landings in fog!!!!!!!!!!
cozzipilot 1 year ago
nice touchdown...
AtlantisB737 1 year ago
I was the captain on the flight. It's now many years ago - I moved on to some bigger equipment.
It's a Dornier 328 Turboprop. If I remember correctly we used normal approach speeds. But turbine 1310 is quite correct, there was something like icing speeds on the Dornier.
Well I hope you enjoy the video!
alpinepilot 1 year ago 22
@alpinepilot what do u fly now? what airline?
rappinCheese 1 year ago
@alpinepilot that was a really good job on that landing. see you around
skysurfer0805 1 year ago
@alpinepilot
I would enjoy a few more landings like that one!
oldaardvark 9 months ago
how I like this kind of approaches..., and the landing so smooth. Lovely!! i'm going to clean my keyboard... hehe!
onelife11 2 years ago 21
what kind of plane?
Icetitan777 2 years ago
WOW! WHAT GRAPHIC CARD DO YOU HAVE?! :D
MrStupidComment 2 years ago
lol
ksa5223 2 years ago
Heard of real life mate? =.=
volcom1722 2 years ago 2
how can you get into the cockpit?
tattila19 2 years ago
just ask the pilot !
youtrein 2 years ago
If it looks fast, the pilots are probably using residual ice speeds - usually another 10knots. If the fog is freezing fog then any ice formed will not fall off in time or it may form on the already cold wings as the aircraft descends into the moist layer. It is a turbprop with not CAT3 autoland. The AP is disconnected at 80 feet on a CAT2 approach. The gotcha is the sightline angle allowing you to see the runway through the fog until you get closer, then you loose sight of it the last mile.
turbine1013 3 years ago
nicht schlecht im flaren den AP off und schön weich runter!dafür daumen hoch
DTKXX 3 years ago
looks way to fast^^
NKCrime 3 years ago
nkcrime, its interesting that you said that because in fog like that you actually want to land faster becasue you could go in to a stall and plus farther out you migt not see the runway so its always safer to be fast. i had to learn the hard way after stalling my cessna right in front of the runway breaking my leg. lol
kovalcik17 3 years ago
oh im sorry for that^^ hope ur cessna was not totally destroyed^^ but thx for explaining to me!
NKCrime 3 years ago
what exactly caused you to stall your cessna?
mitgolden76 2 years ago
the wings lost lift because of the lack of speed thats basically what a stall is.
kovalcik17 2 years ago
lol no.....that isnt right kid.
beergut111 2 years ago
A stall is where the wings no longer create enough lift to keep the plane airborne. You can recover from a stall by the NSSR or SSR
mattyccc2009 2 years ago
was it half an autoland?
gopussycat 3 years ago
i landed in munich in the fog feb. 08. we thought we hit a rough patch of turbulence, but we had actually landed. it was so thick we couldn't see the ground from the plane as we had landed. it was nuts.
ledzepp435 3 years ago
You were the passenger or the pilot?
SoCalFlya 3 years ago
definitely passenger.
ledzepp435 3 years ago
scary
addew2 4 years ago
Who was asking you and why are you stalking me??
atvmaster281 4 years ago
What airline and plane were you flying?
atvmaster281 4 years ago 6
@atvmaster281 are you unable to read the description?
lukeosborne1993 1 year ago