Haha! just played with Andy Martin and his bros, as guest artists with the Northgate High School Jazz Band at Irvine High School in CA yesterday. those three guys smash
He's so awesome, he shot a bullet from his finger and struck a small, silver triangle less than a diameter in thickness in a fairly dark room from over 30 feet away at the end.
Haha!! Yes!! That was me and my friends from going crazy in the beginning. I love Gordon's reaction: he turns his head like, "What the ... ????" Wow, they are unreal man! That was such an amazing show!! Eric Marienthal, YOU ROCK!!
jazz, the one genre were the majority of people who listen to it and comment about it actually know what they are talking about and what they are listening to.
7:05 I listen to a lot of jazz music (have been since I was 10 years old) and I don't know if I've ever heard a smear up to a note like that on trumpet....
@sk8rinuse actually, rick baptist was the screamer on that. wayne played second trumpet. look up rick baptist, gary grant, jerry hey, etc. they are even better than bergeron.
@RogerSquawk Mmmmm not so sure. Rick Baptist isn't there if I'm not mistakin... he has darker skin than any of those guys. And anyway, just look at Bergeron when you hear the double D, it just is clearly him, you see he his oppening widely his troath and bending the knees a bit (screamer technique)
@RogerSquawk oh, and btw, he says it at the end of the video lol, after the song :P and sorry i mistook your comment, you didn't implied that rick baptist was the screamer in this song, my mistake (haha). Still, it's Bergeron on that double D :P
maybe using a bass would help. regardless he plays it like it's nothing. Watch "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" if you really want to see him dominate.
ONLY 4 TRUMPETS AND 5 SAXES? You SHOULD only have 4 trumpets and 5 saxes. And 4 trombones. not seven. big band charts aren't written with those numbers in mind. its 4, 4, and 5. theres no need for more and no excuse for any less!
To stay idiomatic to the big band genre, you're not going to get away with having a regular group with anything much different from 4 plus or minus one in the brass sections and 5 saxes.
Doubling more than one part (and even this can be pushing it) that isn't scored to be doubled is not doing the music justice.
Just to let everyone know. The part after the solo is like an Afro-Cuban/Swing Fusion. This song has 3 different styles that all contrast equally. This is just another piece that proves Gordon Goodwin's genius.
just because he played clashing notes in the start of his solo does not mean at all that he has no sense of the chord changes he moves through the chords flawlessly in the later part of the solo. his timing is impeccable. once again he is creating tension at the start of his solo by playing notes that clash with the beat. you obviously don't understand jazz very well
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I will agree that he played pretty well at the end of solo, but the beginning wasa awful. Why would you want to create tension(which basically means sounding like shit)? To an audience, it just sounds like the guy is playing random notes.
obviously you dont know what a good solo sounds like. listen to those ideas! No he's not wiling like eric (1st alto in the band) but you cant beat some of tose runs or ideas he has. and as far as time is concerned in his solo. He was laying back to get to the end of the solo!
Ok, I am not denying the fact that this guy is an extremely talented jazz saxophonist, but all I am saying is that his solo in this live version of this song was extremely dissapointing. Dissonance is only appealing to me if it meets some sweet resolution
It really gets me that people are all saying that it would've been better if they didn't do the swing section. It sounds great!!! You guys couldn't do better It's time to take a quote from the legendary Bob Marley: "I know I'm not perfect and I don't try to be, But before you start pointing your fingers make sure your hands are clean.
The classical style at the beginning is neat but after a while it gets boring. I think the swing section adds a good color to it. The recording definitely comes off better with the trombone solo.
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Also, and my apologies for double commenting, a solo section does not have to be a swing section. There are plenty of other feels, such as latin, blues, bebop, funk, and so forth to improv in. It could have been a more appropriate style, is what I mean. The song fell out of style at the swing section.
Of course they could have played a style to better suit the song but maybe on the day they just played what felt right to them. Sometimes going against what should be played makes for a better performance. It was a live gig aswell so the atmosphere would have been a lot different. I have so much respect for these guys and of course you can critisise every single tiny detail that may be out of place, but that still doesn't ditract from their amazing talents as musicians.
the swing section is there to contrast the strictness of the beginning and end of the piece. i understand what youre saying, but it would be very difficult, if doable at all, to construct a solo section to go with the beginning. also, the defining feature of latin music is the many percussion rhythms, and a lot of blues music is written with a laid back feel intended. similar to swing, they dont really fit the idea from the start of the song.
Nope, not a screamo fan. I just really don't think that the incredibly tight, clean, intro ought to be destined to become another yawner of an improv section. There's nothing you can do in the same song as the beginning that would better prove your mastery as a jazz ensemble. Basically, it lost anything noteworthy once the improv section started.
what do you mean? that doesn't make any sense, the song is over when the song is over, how can it be over when the swing seciton starts. it's swing because that's the solo section, and then it goes on from there.
This is what I have to say. I'd like to see all of you people who are making reamarks to people's playing. I'd like to see you guys in their shoes trying to do what they do. It's not all easy and they are human. They sounded great. And that song is amazing.
Bonafide monsters in every section of the band, as always. As for you naysayers, don't let your mouth write checks that your a** can't cash. Sal could write volumes regarding his experiences, but would probably rather just play, and play, and play. I look forward to that.
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as far as i am concerned my ass is not paying my bills, congrats to you however to be able to cash some checks based on your asses talents, you must have som killin anal muscles.
Guys, Sal Lozano is an amazing woodwind player! He can play multiple instruments as if hes dedicated a full life time to each one! He is also an amazingly nice guy, soon as you construct a solo like his ill actually aknowledge your critisism.
Perhaps you should get in touch with Sal Lozano via his web site and offer to show him how it should be done? I presume Gordon's waiting until he's rich enough to be able to afford you. Eric's probably quaking in his boots too..............
w/e man you can talk all the crap you want,thats how i feel about his playing you dont have to agree. as far as eric, i got no beef with him, cat can play.
yeah it was pretty bad apart from the jive quarter note triplets in the begining and the failed altissimo at 4:57, well goodwin should be able to hire beter sax players no?
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I guess, but how many altos do you think want to play big band music (it sucks, everyones into smooth jazz now), be 2nd chair, and can play clarinet flute, and piccolo?
I got a speeding ticket once. I was listening to this song while driving.
NaughtyBitsMusic 1 month ago
Can someone tell me who's filling in for Craig Ware(bass trombonist) in this recording?
ChuCkyKiLLER001 1 month ago
@ChuCkyKiLLER001 Craig Gosnell.
BrownCow924 1 month ago
@LightSpeed99999 Good looking out....I blame it on the video quality :)
tedshaw 3 months ago
this must be pretty old all different trumpet players
legoboy854 3 months ago
Playing part of this for Marching Band!!!!!
Zspear234 7 months ago
Why is Andy playing 2nd part?
Dorgannn 8 months ago
@Dorgannn they switch off parts on every song, probably because all 3 tenor trombonists can handle any music given.
OwnageProductions69 8 months ago
Sssh. Be vewwy, vewwy quiet. I'm wwistening to music :D
13mungoman13 10 months ago 9
Amazingly talented group! My favorite music!
Truexfan2279 10 months ago
at 2:20 the fun begins! Let my transcripting begin!
CodyLeeWalters 10 months ago
Haha! just played with Andy Martin and his bros, as guest artists with the Northgate High School Jazz Band at Irvine High School in CA yesterday. those three guys smash
TravisBIKES 10 months ago
whoever disliked this is a fag
derekw432 10 months ago 3
@derekw432 They just didn't like anything past 8:04. That's the horrible part.
SuaveTito 9 months ago
He's so awesome, he shot a bullet from his finger and struck a small, silver triangle less than a diameter in thickness in a fairly dark room from over 30 feet away at the end.
1uohdh2 11 months ago
7:06 Is why I play. And why I faint.
BenL013 1 year ago
jay mason is such a good guy that he was nice enough to be one of our judges at the mayfair jazz festival
ugot2dowhatugot2do 1 year ago
this song is incredible. Long Live Jazz!!!
gabirocksursocks 1 year ago
my high school band is playing this song at oheka castle feb. 7th! come check us out at the best of long island confrence
CLAMPOWER10 1 year ago
@CLAMPOWER10 I looked this up and cant believe someone else wrote on this lmao who is this? its shane
OLShane 1 year ago
@OLShane
Andrew haha
CLAMPOWER10 1 year ago
you know i love this song cause it doesnt sound like jazz, now if we could just remove the solos. sorry not a fan of jazz
Beandonuts 1 year ago
LONG LIVE THE PHAT BAND!!
bigbluedevil132 1 year ago
...go jay mayson lol
Rachey827 1 year ago
Gordon Goodwins Big Phat Band is the greatest big band I've heard. Its the dream team of big bands.
MrCReagan 1 year ago
I swear This band's main audience is mainly high school students who have played their music.
That's why I'm here.
pb0o6 1 year ago 6
my band are playing this off by heart at the royal albert hall on monday ! can't wait! :D:D
KimPossibl3 1 year ago
oh my god. that pinch to the double d? SO GOOD
SupaChard89 1 year ago
Id be so scared to play triangle in that lol, that one note changes the entire piece 8)
EgoEchoes 1 year ago
dammit thats clean!
bradporky16 1 year ago
shame you guys didn't get to hear bernie...he's incredible
hawleywe 1 year ago
Haha!! Yes!! That was me and my friends from going crazy in the beginning. I love Gordon's reaction: he turns his head like, "What the ... ????" Wow, they are unreal man! That was such an amazing show!! Eric Marienthal, YOU ROCK!!
BDAWG1205 1 year ago
have to learn this without sheet music... eurgh
KimPossibl3 2 years ago
jazz, the one genre were the majority of people who listen to it and comment about it actually know what they are talking about and what they are listening to.
Jac0bReg 2 years ago 83
@Jac0bReg amen!
SuaveTito 1 year ago
@Jac0bReg SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!!
SuaveTito 1 year ago
I love this song. The double D is awesome, but how about that whole song with a single frack, lots of other notes above high C.
kdkn92 2 years ago
band is so tight. every section sounds like one instrument.
pb0o6 2 years ago
wow. i love this song. and i play the bari sax. the solo was great. :)
tds0221 2 years ago
its not its just the shadow
em6100 2 years ago
i'm new to jazz...but the baritone sax (in the solo) why is the mouthpiece like a trumpet-tuba-trombone-frenchhorn-ect? what's it called?
starGASPstarOMGLOLZ 2 years ago
the word you're looking for is brass mouthpiece
yomomala 2 years ago
@starGASPstarOMGLOLZ It's not a brass mouthpiece. The quality of video is just low and makes it look weird.
evergreach2346 1 year ago
@evergreach2346 haha gotcha! Thanks
starGASPstarOMGLOLZ 1 year ago
7:05 I listen to a lot of jazz music (have been since I was 10 years old) and I don't know if I've ever heard a smear up to a note like that on trumpet....
saxev2005 2 years ago
@saxev2005 Thats wayne for ya.
cabbage142 1 year ago
D above doudle high c
jocobo99 2 years ago
Wayne Bergeron man he is my idol. I kept playing that double D over and over again. He plays the squealing trumpet on the incredibles theme. Oh man.
sk8rinuse 2 years ago
@sk8rinuse actually, rick baptist was the screamer on that. wayne played second trumpet. look up rick baptist, gary grant, jerry hey, etc. they are even better than bergeron.
RogerSquawk 1 year ago
@RogerSquawk Mmmmm not so sure. Rick Baptist isn't there if I'm not mistakin... he has darker skin than any of those guys. And anyway, just look at Bergeron when you hear the double D, it just is clearly him, you see he his oppening widely his troath and bending the knees a bit (screamer technique)
kkitkatsuprem 1 year ago
@RogerSquawk oh, and btw, he says it at the end of the video lol, after the song :P and sorry i mistook your comment, you didn't implied that rick baptist was the screamer in this song, my mistake (haha). Still, it's Bergeron on that double D :P
kkitkatsuprem 1 year ago
Bari solo!
raiu0009 2 years ago
Andy Martin at 1:05 "Damn, this weird stuff"
Reinocerous25 2 years ago 2
6:58-6:59 Wayne is telling Bob, "Watch this man, Im gonna hit that D just for you" hahhahahahaha
tedshaw 2 years ago 51
holy crap, im not a brass player but im guessing that d is not in the staff d
Weirdasian010 2 years ago
it's actually 2 octaves above the D that's in the staff
denverbroncosXXII 2 years ago
@tedshaw and right after that Bob goes "woah man!"
cw9123mingus 1 year ago
@tedshaw hehe i got out my trumpet and played a high D (an octave lower than he just did) to make sure it was a D :D
parks1993 11 months ago
@tedshaw except that was Dan F he told.....
LightSpeed99999 8 months ago 7
razzy
Superclarinetmorman1 2 years ago
yeea triangle!
ndosg15 2 years ago
Eric Marienthal...
I wish you weren't married!
:D
snipper1792 2 years ago
hahah, marienthal is a beast. I actually met him last week, amazing player.
XfreeXskierX31X 2 years ago
I met him not to long ago. Sat down and had a nice long chat with him
wis73 2 years ago
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while i listened to this song, i danced trance in garbage bag pants
ma niggas
i love the shit outta you, WEST SIDDEEE!
fredo1890 3 years ago
Can i have some of what your smoking?
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basser119 3 years ago
bari solo??? FREAKIN AWESOME im a trombone player but a good bari player is amazing
jazzgeek123 3 years ago 3
Thats Jay Mason for you!! Awesome player
FUBAR329 3 years ago
I love this band.
If you look at the cover of the Hunting Wabbits chart, it shows Gordon Goodwin leaping into the air while conducting.
I've always found that ridiculous, but awesome.
psychomanexe 3 years ago 6
That bass bone player is just beastly
LazyTuba 3 years ago 4
ha no joke.
we're playing this and I cant hit that B.
maybe using a bass would help. regardless he plays it like it's nothing. Watch "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" if you really want to see him dominate.
hawleywe 3 years ago
yeah I played this last year in my school's jazz band and I had a hard time hitting it, you definitely need a double trigger.
LazyTuba 3 years ago
well we have 5 bones in our band..dont ask me why...but the 5th chair guy is playin the bass, but he cant get it either so we're at a loss.
hawleywe 3 years ago
hah! we've got 7. but you can barely hear 3 of them. wimps. Plus we only have 4 trumpets and 5 saxes.
amysports15 3 years ago
ouch that sucks. but it's mass volume from trombones right?
hawleywe 3 years ago
Well like I said you can't hear 3 of them, so it sounds like parts 1,2, and 4 (bass). So no. I wish though.
amysports15 3 years ago
ONLY 4 TRUMPETS AND 5 SAXES? You SHOULD only have 4 trumpets and 5 saxes. And 4 trombones. not seven. big band charts aren't written with those numbers in mind. its 4, 4, and 5. theres no need for more and no excuse for any less!
dontevenstartme 2 years ago
I realize that 4,4, and 5 is the ideal number. I'm saying that in proportion to 7 trombones, 4 and 5 are small numbers.
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mudrock1000 2 years ago
To stay idiomatic to the big band genre, you're not going to get away with having a regular group with anything much different from 4 plus or minus one in the brass sections and 5 saxes.
Doubling more than one part (and even this can be pushing it) that isn't scored to be doubled is not doing the music justice.
McDutchy 2 years ago
Wayne Bergeron just played a high D like it was nothing. ROFL!
radioplug14 3 years ago
I love the contrast of Lazano's laid back style to Marienthals technical wizardry. :D
Mattytheman91 3 years ago 2
I was somewhat surprised when I saw this. Lozano is brilliant.
gotmilk1289 3 years ago
For anyone doubting his ability watch his video of him playing play that funky music or cherokee.......
OjAiSaXpLaYeR 3 years ago
Just to let everyone know. The part after the solo is like an Afro-Cuban/Swing Fusion. This song has 3 different styles that all contrast equally. This is just another piece that proves Gordon Goodwin's genius.
KWTrumpet2010 3 years ago 3
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that second guy's solo sucked huge dick.
memphis148 3 years ago
do you have ears?
Musicman42391 3 years ago 2
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Yes, and they both heard a bad second solo. No feeling for time or chord changes. terrible to listen to.
memphis148 3 years ago
just because he played clashing notes in the start of his solo does not mean at all that he has no sense of the chord changes he moves through the chords flawlessly in the later part of the solo. his timing is impeccable. once again he is creating tension at the start of his solo by playing notes that clash with the beat. you obviously don't understand jazz very well
doubaz 3 years ago
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I will agree that he played pretty well at the end of solo, but the beginning wasa awful. Why would you want to create tension(which basically means sounding like shit)? To an audience, it just sounds like the guy is playing random notes.
memphis148 3 years ago
Dexter gordon Plays with lots of tension
Pickpocket86 3 years ago
you're a wackjob dude. figure it out
aeiouandytoo2 3 years ago
obviously you dont know what a good solo sounds like. listen to those ideas! No he's not wiling like eric (1st alto in the band) but you cant beat some of tose runs or ideas he has. and as far as time is concerned in his solo. He was laying back to get to the end of the solo!
gpitts08 3 years ago 2
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Alright, if you want to hear a good solo, search dexter gordon blue bossa on youtube. Far better than this quack.
memphis148 3 years ago
It's a minor chord throughout most of the changes and allows for one to play outside. Sal is one of the highest paid studio musicians for a reason.
KlassyKamikaze 3 years ago 4
Ok, I am not denying the fact that this guy is an extremely talented jazz saxophonist, but all I am saying is that his solo in this live version of this song was extremely dissapointing. Dissonance is only appealing to me if it meets some sweet resolution
memphis148 3 years ago
It really gets me that people are all saying that it would've been better if they didn't do the swing section. It sounds great!!! You guys couldn't do better It's time to take a quote from the legendary Bob Marley: "I know I'm not perfect and I don't try to be, But before you start pointing your fingers make sure your hands are clean.
cavallodelmare 3 years ago 2
the swing stays people.
beeftothetaco 3 years ago
Everyone commenting are just little experts, aren't they?
SonoftheRepublic1776 3 years ago 2
The classical style at the beginning is neat but after a while it gets boring. I think the swing section adds a good color to it. The recording definitely comes off better with the trombone solo.
B2TheRye 3 years ago
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Also, and my apologies for double commenting, a solo section does not have to be a swing section. There are plenty of other feels, such as latin, blues, bebop, funk, and so forth to improv in. It could have been a more appropriate style, is what I mean. The song fell out of style at the swing section.
TheFallen86 3 years ago
Of course they could have played a style to better suit the song but maybe on the day they just played what felt right to them. Sometimes going against what should be played makes for a better performance. It was a live gig aswell so the atmosphere would have been a lot different. I have so much respect for these guys and of course you can critisise every single tiny detail that may be out of place, but that still doesn't ditract from their amazing talents as musicians.
kimmyknerdy 3 years ago
the swing section is there to contrast the strictness of the beginning and end of the piece. i understand what youre saying, but it would be very difficult, if doable at all, to construct a solo section to go with the beginning. also, the defining feature of latin music is the many percussion rhythms, and a lot of blues music is written with a laid back feel intended. similar to swing, they dont really fit the idea from the start of the song.
marksandpaint 3 years ago
I think it was very appropriate.... The CD recording is great
Pickpocket86 3 years ago 3
Nope, not a screamo fan. I just really don't think that the incredibly tight, clean, intro ought to be destined to become another yawner of an improv section. There's nothing you can do in the same song as the beginning that would better prove your mastery as a jazz ensemble. Basically, it lost anything noteworthy once the improv section started.
TheFallen86 3 years ago
Playing this song for jazz band. Can't wait!
SonoftheRepublic1776 3 years ago
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As far as I'm concerned, this song ends the second the swing section starts.
TheFallen86 3 years ago
what do you mean? that doesn't make any sense, the song is over when the song is over, how can it be over when the swing seciton starts. it's swing because that's the solo section, and then it goes on from there.
shrimptim 3 years ago 3
This is what I have to say. I'd like to see all of you people who are making reamarks to people's playing. I'd like to see you guys in their shoes trying to do what they do. It's not all easy and they are human. They sounded great. And that song is amazing.
CU0812 3 years ago 7
look at andy martin on 1:07 hehehe
edwardr79 3 years ago
i know man i just saw that yesterday! Did not hit that note right i think lol
Trombone1991 3 years ago
yeah, it sounds like the bass trombone was doing a little ad lib there.
upbeatjazz 3 years ago
Bonafide monsters in every section of the band, as always. As for you naysayers, don't let your mouth write checks that your a** can't cash. Sal could write volumes regarding his experiences, but would probably rather just play, and play, and play. I look forward to that.
rmo52 3 years ago 3
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as far as i am concerned my ass is not paying my bills, congrats to you however to be able to cash some checks based on your asses talents, you must have som killin anal muscles.
keepitclenched 3 years ago
What are you guys talking about? Sal Lozano rocks!
somerandomguy077 3 years ago 2
Guys, Sal Lozano is an amazing woodwind player! He can play multiple instruments as if hes dedicated a full life time to each one! He is also an amazingly nice guy, soon as you construct a solo like his ill actually aknowledge your critisism.
OjAiSaXpLaYeR 3 years ago 2
Can't please everybody
solzano 3 years ago
I guess so Sal :)
xMarth 3 years ago
the lighting on jay makes him look all weird.
Piechickenman 3 years ago
there are more than enough players out there that who are looking to make a name for themselves with a well known big band who can play.
keepitclenched 3 years ago
Perhaps you should get in touch with Sal Lozano via his web site and offer to show him how it should be done? I presume Gordon's waiting until he's rich enough to be able to afford you. Eric's probably quaking in his boots too..............
twertonparker 3 years ago
w/e man you can talk all the crap you want,thats how i feel about his playing you dont have to agree. as far as eric, i got no beef with him, cat can play.
keepitclenched 3 years ago
That is Exactly Why We are Watching Sal Solo and not you ..... DOuche BAg
Pickpocket86 3 years ago 4
yeah it was pretty bad apart from the jive quarter note triplets in the begining and the failed altissimo at 4:57, well goodwin should be able to hire beter sax players no?
keepitclenched 3 years ago
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I guess, but how many altos do you think want to play big band music (it sucks, everyones into smooth jazz now), be 2nd chair, and can play clarinet flute, and piccolo?
Piechickenman 3 years ago
i do, i can!
OjAiSaXpLaYeR 3 years ago
and thats why eric marienthal should do all the alto solos.....
keepitclenched 3 years ago
why do you say that?
It wasn't even that bad...
Piechickenman 3 years ago