I'd always rather hear the lip sync version with the original version of the hit. Studio orchestras can never duplicate that "sound" with backup singers, reverb, e.t.c. Petula does a marvelous job.
wow the people in the back! Especially the woman in black! couldn't stop laughing! haha :). I was proud of Petula for not joining in, then she did! Very disappointed Petula, very disappointed! :P. Lol. I love her, I'm only 19 but she is my favourite singer after Agnetha Faltskog. I'd love to meet Petula one day. I love her!
@vintagerosenz She very possibly had little influence on the staging of this number, but before computer graphics they had to have SOMETHING going on in background. I thought she did marvelously. As for Red Jacket, if his draft board decided he had all the right moves for Vietnam, I hope he didn't get "fragged" by his own guys. Looks like the gung ho 2nd Lieutenant type.
@steve119100 They probably checked out this guy's athletic moves and decided he'd make a good Ranger. Hope he made it through the war! I'm betting he was a professional "ringer" they threw in to make sure Petula had someone competent to dance with during the bridge. Maybe he y had a college deferment; like Dick Cheney, he could have had "other agendas." I'm sure Petula and Red Jacket never dreamed this is preserved for posterity.
Ok, lip sync'ing and white people not dancing for shit. What crap show was this from? Peula Clark was an amazing singer and this lip sync crap did her no justice. She could have pulled this song off on her worst day live.
@TheChuck624 what's the issue, chuck? most t.v. shows in the 60s had their musical guests lip synch. not like it was a secret. folks didn't necessarily want to hear a live performance unless they went to a concert. t.v. was relatively new, and folks were able to see the performer PRESENT the song just like it was on the radio.
in short, they were no more lip synching on the t.v. show than performers lip synch on music videos now.
as far as 'white people not dancing'...they got paid.
@neoconsnightmare3 lip synching was the norm yes, but it wasn't because "folks didn't want to hear a live performance". That's absurd. We accepted it because it was all we could get, unless we got lucky. You won't get away with that now because viewers expect more effort.
@notvalidcharacters no, what i said was not absurd. people WHEN WATCHING TV, wanted to hear the song and see the people. there was no expectation of a live performance, per se.
you and i agree...IT WAS ALL WE COULD GET.
yes, viewers expect more NOW, since we've had mtv and much more media to see lip synched or live performances.
@neoconsnightmare3 Sorry that's not how I remember it. We knew it was being lip-synched and we knew we were getting a phony act. You make it sound as if we preferred lip-synching but no one did. It was kind of a joke even then.
@neoconsnightmare3 Dude, I don't know why you're on and on with this. You're the one who typed, " folks didn't necessarily want to hear a live performance unless they went to a concert". That IS your responsibility.
@notvalidcharacters dude, you're the one assailing me. i'm not going to change what i said to make you happy. if you disagree with me, fine. but you're not inherently correct, and as long as you try to present yourself as inherently correct, i'll respond.
now if you disagree with me, great. people in the 60s-70s did NOT CARE about a live performace in television (just like they dont care about a 'live performance' on music videos in the 80s-90s). they want(ed) the sound and the face(s).
@notvalidcharacters now, if YOU and your seemingly 'exacting standards' feel different, that is your right. but the fact is people for the most part were VERY SATISFIED seeing petula clark and other hit makers of the 69s-70s on television LIP SYNCHING.
why? because they wanted the FACE of the person and to a lesser extent wanted to hear the version of the song they were familiar with (or a close variation). this is how people today are with MUSIC VIDEOS.
@neoconsnightmare3 Jeezis take your medications dude. You just said people preferred lip synching to live, and that's bullshit. Now it's true we wanted to see the face of the voice we heard on the radio, and that's all TV of the time was presenting by limiting to lip-synching, but that doesn't in any way mean we didn't want it live.
You stepped in it, wipe your own shoes. Take a pill already.
@notvalidcharacters why would i need to take meds, particularly when i'm not prescribed any? did you think by saying this you'd divert away from your silliness. 'tis you that needs to take such meds?
what i said was people lip synched on t.v. because the viewing/hearing audience wanted to see their faces and hear the song as they know it on the radio. no different from folks looking at music videos from the 80s onward.
people may have wanted live, but were HAPPY with lip synching.
@neoconsnightmare3 This reminds me of one of my own uploads (watch?v=1YkR0wLv8L8) where the artists are lipsynching, and it's only about 10yrs old. WHY did they do that? BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER. Studios charge by the hour, and it's a hell of a lot less work/studio time to run a preexisting track and lipsynch than to go live. The end result is cheesy as always, and nobody likes it, but cost is the ONLY reason this was ever done-- not because "folks didn't want to hear it". That's absurd.
@notvalidcharacters yes, i believe i mentioned part of it was 'technology', did i not?
i dont think i said 'folks dont want to hear it'. i said folks were HAPPY with it because ultimately they wanted to see the singers and hear the song they're used to hearing.
i don't know what your problem is, but when half assed misquote me, i'll correct you. i can keep this up as long as you can. you gave a point (wrong) i'll offer counter point.
@neoconsnightmare3 Sleeping Jesus dude. Get some professional help while you still can. Must be pathetic to sit on YouTube all day denying your own words. There's no end to that.
Seriously, see a shrink. Any further pointless yammering will be deleted unread. Piss off.
@notvalidcharacters I once read a post (by something who sounded like he knew) saying that the reason for so much TV lip-synching in those days was that many of those TV studios didn't have very good acoustics for a "live" pop or rock n roll performance. The Ed Sullivan Theater (or whatever it was called then) was one of the exceptions; it had good acoustics.
@57highland I can't see that as a reason. Acoustics really don't matter for a TV show since they use a studio, not a hall, so they create their own acoustics and they feed directly to the program (I have a long experience in broadcasting). I do remember the Beatles did their thing live, but not so sure about later acts in the Ed Sullivan Theater.
@notvalidcharacters Then you know more than I do; I have no experience in broadcasting. The person whose comment I read made it sound like there were good TV studios for sound and not-to-good. On a posting of "Mr. Dieingly Sad" by the Critters (lip-synched), one of the Critters (or someone claiming to be) said they were asked to lip-synch that performance, though they wanted to perform "live". Maybe the TV show people were just looking for the easy way to get through it.
@57highland I think you nailed it right there. The TV of the time was looking to make a quick buck with minimal effort on what they saw as a passing fad and didn't take seriously. If we remember the crooners of the older established gen on "variety" shows, you'd never see them lip-synch. When they later saw they could make more $ with authenticity, they went that way until it became a minimum standard.
btw "Mr Dieingly Sad" is one of the most brilliant pop compositions ever :-)
@notvalidcharacters If you have time, look at "Mr Dieingly Sad" posted by SeaOvJapan and go back to page 27, bottom of the page, or maybe pushed back to page 28. Critter Jim Ryan ( "jrslam" ) gives a brief explanation of what artists were up against in that era when they wanted to perform "live." The post starts with "This is 'Where The Action Is' ...." And he says that clip was filmed at the Eden Rock Hotel in Miami. I know you have the knowledge, but still you might find it interesting.
That's what I'm trying to tell this other guy-- nobody ever preferred lip synching, neither the artists nor the audiences. It was a cheap band-aid, pun intended ;-)
Critters trying to do it outdoors would have been quite a challenge with wind, lack of room tone, background noise, etc. It just comes down to the fact that we put a lot more into it now, plus have a lot more technology.
"most t.v. shows in the 60s had their musical guests lip synch. not like it was a secret. folks didn't necessarily want to hear a live performance unless they went to a concert. t.v. was relatively new, and folks were able to see the performer PRESENT the song just like it was on the radio.
in short, they were no more lip synching on the t.v. show than performers lip synch on music videos now."
"people in the 60s-70s did NOT CARE about a live performace in television (just like they dont care about a 'live performance' on music videos in the 80s-90s). they want(ed) the sound and the face(s)."
@neoconsnightmare3 Absolutely! No way that wonderful Tony Hatch arrangement with overdubbing creating that "sound" could be duplicated by TV studio audio. It would have really been bad. This song sung by Petula into a cheap boom mike hanging just out of camera shot just about her head? You've got to be kidding me. 99 percent of viewers certainly liked the studio version and the appearance of this beautiful, talented woman. I think I'm in love all over again.
@malectric I once heard that this song is about The Cavern Club, in Liverpool, where the Beatles played in their early days. The line "a cellar full of noise" is supposed to be a direct reference to the Cavern, which was a downstairs place.
Ahhh! my first crush. I loved this woman and I was only 5yrs old. Now I know that the dancers look like refugees from a cocain induced Tim Burton film, but you must remember, rock itself was still pretty young and folk music was still "in." And finding the right rhythm to dance to it was somewhat of a chore, Also remember that today's "simulated sex" on the dance floor will someday be old and ridiculed as well. At least these folks kept daylight between themselves.
@MiaLeonora That depends on which standards you apply in measuring whiteness. I don't want to sound racist because I'm opposed to racism. But to say Europeans can't dance is kind of silly, because there are differing standards for what good dancing is, just like there are standards for skin color, intelligence, etc. Actually, let's do away with judgmentalism and standards...
@gabsylv actually dancing on these shows was very restricted by network standards. I was told by dancers on Top of the Pops that they could not touch their dance partner, they could not do certain dances, they could not dance suggestively or sexually...so believe me, whites could dance, but on TV they were given strict criteria.
Still looser than the 50s I reacon ... The 60s was about changing such criterias so even tho they were there the spirit of the 60s was to change all that nonsense
@fumetti Whites can't dance! Only Blacks can both sing, dance and jump. They are especially blessed! Just kidding, I appreciated your comment re restrictions placed on background dancers. BTW I loved "Dirty Dancing" with Patrick Swazy(RIP) & Jennifer Grey. Both of course White. Wrong again! A retired Catholic priest in Canada.
@gabsylv all the time , everwhere I go i get the same politically correct nonsense disclaimer " but i'm not a racist" I'm sick of it. So what if you were? would you be any lesser of a person? I see it all around me, (racsim) by people's actions. Racism is merely a function of freedom of expression.
@radicright I'm white but I suffer daily from homophobia. If I accepted racism then I wouldn't have any right to complain about being called a fag constantly, now would I? Expressing racist or homophobic views is freedom of expression, but so is calling your own mother a puta. Accepting unjust behavior is inconscionable.
@gabsylv And to add to your comment, there are a lot of similar era videos that show people from other ethnicities who dance JUST AS "goofy". We all have our quirks and every generation has a style or too that seems weird of silly to another. Just love the song, and the video, for what it is/they are.
@mantonius8 I have to agree with you, I hung around many dance spots at the time Petula sang this and most people dancing then could lessons to this crowd, except, of course, Mr. Red Jacket!
@mantonius8 I have to agree with you, I hung around many dance spots at the time Petula sang this and most people dancing then could lessons to this crowd, except, of course, Mr. Red Jacket!
Hi all you folks out there that lived in Pittsburgh PA and everyone else Hi. Well i want to know if there is anyone out there that remembers a tv show called Come Alive it was a dance show. Cathy
@margretdupont1 Who said she died? I looked on Google today and nothing was said of Petula's passing. Who started this rumour because more than one person has said Petula Clark has died?
Actually, radio engineers were racing at the time to increase the musical quality of AM radio, before FM really came of age.
High level modulation transmitters; the first beginnings of audio processing; microwave supplanting tinny and muddy phone lines to the transmitter. By the time FM took over music programming, AM actually sounded pretty good.
Examples of this AM sound leadership would include WABC, CKLW, WCOL, Columbus, Oh. Engineers worked hard to get "that" sound.
Tubes were in use mostly through the 50's- the spaceage replaced them with mass produced circut boards with transistors- The sound has more to do with power- when the transistors where then used in radios, the power was often less and smaller speakers were used for portability- so some people thought that older tubes radios still sounded better- comaparing apples and oranges- Tubes couldn't compete with later high powered stereo amps that had none.
@harponercam "That wall of sound" is a separate thought from "transistor memories" where I'm referring to radios. The Wall of Sound was that full urban kinda sound that Phil spector got a lot of credit for, but was a larger style of the period anyway.: i.e. "You've Lost That Lovin Feeling" or "Five O'Clock World"
How nice to see kids dance so nicley at a respectable distance. I wish kids of today would look at these kids dancing and learn how to dance properly instead of those nasty grinding steps.
@StanKindly -- So true!! It was a gas (to use the vernacular of that time-LOL.) Even as a 5 year old I watched Bandstand to learn how to Swim, Mash Potato, Watusi, etc.
Red Jacket Guy needs his own fan club, He's just great - chewing the scenery without trying. Why do you think they put him up front and had Petula dancing with him during the bridge, and always trying to keep him in camera frame.
The song is great, but I confess I always re-watch this video just to see the guy in the red jacket dancing. I wonder if he is alive to realize what a debate/sensation he has caused on YouTube.
@coledawg -Thanks for your responce. I'm thinking that since I began my comment with, "She seems ahead of her time" I'm absolved from claims that I made a time-frame contradiction. On your other point, yeah I agree, that type of dancing could well have inspired 80s New Wave style.
She seems ahead of her time. It has a bit of 80s New Wave feel. At hte end she seems to be mixing 80's New Wave dance style in with the 60's style. She was so cute and put a lot of herself into the dekivery. Charming!
@RickeyRamone I know I'm being INCREDIBLY picky, but your statement is bugging me. She can't have mixed 80's New Wave dance style in with anything she'd done... because it hadn't happened yet. If anything, whatever made you think "huh, this kind sounds like new wave 80's", then it may have very well been inspired by music like this. The way you said it doesn't make sense. That'd be like saying "Wow, this blues song seems heavily influenced by Rock & Roll." It just doesn't work that way.
Also there's a few very relaxed male dancers in the background, like the dark haired guy, white shirt collar-brown coat-grey trousers to the left of and behind Petula at 2:13 ! Regards.
Great song and Petula's lovely. I know it's very "sanitised" but it still sort of gets you. And seeing the women dancing (including Petula) with their skirts is nice !!! A pity about the video "artifact" that appears at times; but still good. Regards.
@mythicky - I absolutely agree with you.! Nothing is more 60's to me, than Petula Clark, and other pop 60's music.
She is quintessential 60's.!! Just like the Seekers singing "Hey there Georgie Girl", or Dionne Warwick, singing Burt Bacharach songs like, "I'll Never Fall in Love again", etc, as I loved the Bosa Nova songs as well, like "the girl from Ipanema", and so on.. Loved all of it, and I wish it were still here.. as they were much simpler, and happier times..
This dancing group in the background reminds me of my dancing days in college, late 80s, early 90s. I have so much fun dancing house, reggae, punk, salsa, merengue. I wish I could live those days, and enjoy myself like the guy in the red jacket here.
In my opinion, we all can dance, in our own way, and we all dance great. the notion is, we all can have fun & groove to her music. no need to say this and that, let's all have fun listening to her music!!!!!!
@SixtiesPopGold Who cares if you are called a racist. You should not worry about that. I am glad that you gave that racist skunk a lovely dose of his medicine.
@SixtiesPopGold black people have a natural rhythm from living in the jungles of deapest darkest africa watch the movie the dark of the sun oscar peterson was the greatest pianist he was black dizzy gilspie was the greatest trumpet player he was black john coltrane was the greatest sax player he was black
Look how this woman knows how to make love to the camera and exactly the right stage business for the musical bridge. Exactly the right look, right into the camera. She was a showbiz veteran even at this young age and she had "it."
Todays creations of overdubbing and producers could not hold a candle to Petula Clark, in the studio or live, onstage.
As for the critics of the quality of the video, don't forget color video tape had just, basically ,emerged from the lab then.
Two things: in-joke in the lyrics: "...a cellarful of noise" is a reference to the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein's Book about the Fab Four. This was parodied by Eric Idle. The Rutles' manager, Leggy Mountbatten wrote the book, "A Cellarful of Goys".
2. The fellow in the red jacket looks like a 60's version of Richard Kind. This is less dangerous than one of Clark's earliest gigs, singing on the radio during WWII during a bombing raid.
at 02:02 Petula picks her hear. LOL
katyu16 8 hours ago
That's a special rocking dance troupe, The Spastic Clumsy Inept White Dance Group.
garyhope2 2 days ago
I want to have intercourse with red-jacket man....
MerleOberon 2 days ago
they used the worst dancers in order to spotlight petula. very effective
radicright 1 week ago in playlist Petula Clark i know a place
This was recorded from station WPCD: W hite P eople C an't Dance...!
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except for Pet those are the worst dancers ever. Each one should have had several shots of booze first
bloomtime1 1 week ago
Love this video! Those poor kids...Trying so hard to dance...lol...I do notice that Petula Clark DOES HAVE A LOT OF RHYTHM...She was so cute!
mrob75 3 weeks ago
Wow, this was B4 my time, but I always loved this song alone with downtown.
discolarry124 3 weeks ago
These poor people are suffering from a terrible twitching disease
Lonnyhaze1 3 weeks ago
They just don't make 'em like this anymore...I mean real women!!!
jgatsby52 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from SixtiesPopGold
some body here needs psyclogiacle medicatione your losting it
flyinv1967 1 month ago
pretty & petite....just the way i like 'em!
oLdSkOoLkisS 1 month ago
It's official, white people can't dance !
Some of this lot look as though they are going to give themselves whiplash !
cspace1234nz 1 month ago
@cspace1234nz Ah shaddup, they're sober.
53moreHP 3 weeks ago
Re: the dancers.
Dancing was a less inhibited thing in the 60's. People just threw themselves into it and didn't much worry what other people thought.
57highland 1 month ago
I'd always rather hear the lip sync version with the original version of the hit. Studio orchestras can never duplicate that "sound" with backup singers, reverb, e.t.c. Petula does a marvelous job.
mercury73732 1 month ago
Its Elaine!
Mascro1977 1 month ago
wow the people in the back! Especially the woman in black! couldn't stop laughing! haha :). I was proud of Petula for not joining in, then she did! Very disappointed Petula, very disappointed! :P. Lol. I love her, I'm only 19 but she is my favourite singer after Agnetha Faltskog. I'd love to meet Petula one day. I love her!
vintagerosenz 1 month ago
@vintagerosenz She very possibly had little influence on the staging of this number, but before computer graphics they had to have SOMETHING going on in background. I thought she did marvelously. As for Red Jacket, if his draft board decided he had all the right moves for Vietnam, I hope he didn't get "fragged" by his own guys. Looks like the gung ho 2nd Lieutenant type.
mercury73732 1 month ago
The guy in the red jacket is probably happy because his draft board will see him dance, and declare him 4F, keeping him out of Vietnam.
steve119100 1 month ago
@steve119100 They probably checked out this guy's athletic moves and decided he'd make a good Ranger. Hope he made it through the war! I'm betting he was a professional "ringer" they threw in to make sure Petula had someone competent to dance with during the bridge. Maybe he y had a college deferment; like Dick Cheney, he could have had "other agendas." I'm sure Petula and Red Jacket never dreamed this is preserved for posterity.
mercury73732 1 month ago
Ok, lip sync'ing and white people not dancing for shit. What crap show was this from? Peula Clark was an amazing singer and this lip sync crap did her no justice. She could have pulled this song off on her worst day live.
TheChuck624 1 month ago
@TheChuck624 what's the issue, chuck? most t.v. shows in the 60s had their musical guests lip synch. not like it was a secret. folks didn't necessarily want to hear a live performance unless they went to a concert. t.v. was relatively new, and folks were able to see the performer PRESENT the song just like it was on the radio.
in short, they were no more lip synching on the t.v. show than performers lip synch on music videos now.
as far as 'white people not dancing'...they got paid.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 lip synching was the norm yes, but it wasn't because "folks didn't want to hear a live performance". That's absurd. We accepted it because it was all we could get, unless we got lucky. You won't get away with that now because viewers expect more effort.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters no, what i said was not absurd. people WHEN WATCHING TV, wanted to hear the song and see the people. there was no expectation of a live performance, per se.
you and i agree...IT WAS ALL WE COULD GET.
yes, viewers expect more NOW, since we've had mtv and much more media to see lip synched or live performances.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Sorry that's not how I remember it. We knew it was being lip-synched and we knew we were getting a phony act. You make it sound as if we preferred lip-synching but no one did. It was kind of a joke even then.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters nothing to be sorry about. that's how i and those i know remember it.
of COURSE we knew we were getting 'lip synching', we just didnt care. NOWHERE did i say/imply we PREFERRED lip synching. NOWHERE.
if that's how YOU understood things, that's not my responsibility.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Dude, I don't know why you're on and on with this. You're the one who typed, " folks didn't necessarily want to hear a live performance unless they went to a concert". That IS your responsibility.
The memory is the second thing to go...:-P
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters dude, you're the one assailing me. i'm not going to change what i said to make you happy. if you disagree with me, fine. but you're not inherently correct, and as long as you try to present yourself as inherently correct, i'll respond.
now if you disagree with me, great. people in the 60s-70s did NOT CARE about a live performace in television (just like they dont care about a 'live performance' on music videos in the 80s-90s). they want(ed) the sound and the face(s).
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters now, if YOU and your seemingly 'exacting standards' feel different, that is your right. but the fact is people for the most part were VERY SATISFIED seeing petula clark and other hit makers of the 69s-70s on television LIP SYNCHING.
why? because they wanted the FACE of the person and to a lesser extent wanted to hear the version of the song they were familiar with (or a close variation). this is how people today are with MUSIC VIDEOS.
different version: live concert
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Jeezis take your medications dude. You just said people preferred lip synching to live, and that's bullshit. Now it's true we wanted to see the face of the voice we heard on the radio, and that's all TV of the time was presenting by limiting to lip-synching, but that doesn't in any way mean we didn't want it live.
You stepped in it, wipe your own shoes. Take a pill already.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters why would i need to take meds, particularly when i'm not prescribed any? did you think by saying this you'd divert away from your silliness. 'tis you that needs to take such meds?
what i said was people lip synched on t.v. because the viewing/hearing audience wanted to see their faces and hear the song as they know it on the radio. no different from folks looking at music videos from the 80s onward.
people may have wanted live, but were HAPPY with lip synching.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters i've 'stepped' into nothing, so there's nothing for me to 'wipe' off my shoes.
the pills again? maybe you need to take 'em.
why the impotent anger from you? you're not going to change my mind, nor change the facts. if you disagree, fine. so?
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 This reminds me of one of my own uploads (watch?v=1YkR0wLv8L8) where the artists are lipsynching, and it's only about 10yrs old. WHY did they do that? BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER. Studios charge by the hour, and it's a hell of a lot less work/studio time to run a preexisting track and lipsynch than to go live. The end result is cheesy as always, and nobody likes it, but cost is the ONLY reason this was ever done-- not because "folks didn't want to hear it". That's absurd.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters yes, i believe i mentioned part of it was 'technology', did i not?
i dont think i said 'folks dont want to hear it'. i said folks were HAPPY with it because ultimately they wanted to see the singers and hear the song they're used to hearing.
i don't know what your problem is, but when half assed misquote me, i'll correct you. i can keep this up as long as you can. you gave a point (wrong) i'll offer counter point.
sooner or later, it ends on my counterpoint.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Sleeping Jesus dude. Get some professional help while you still can. Must be pathetic to sit on YouTube all day denying your own words. There's no end to that.
Seriously, see a shrink. Any further pointless yammering will be deleted unread. Piss off.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters so, you keep coming back, starting an argument that didn't need to start, and somehow you claim i need professional help?
uh, by your standards, you would too.
i'm not on youtube any more than you....so you, per your standards, are 'denying your own words'.
seriously, if you think i need a shrink, then since you keep going back and forth with me, YOU DO TOO.
delete away. you're not getting the last word you desire. this is how the game is played.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters I once read a post (by something who sounded like he knew) saying that the reason for so much TV lip-synching in those days was that many of those TV studios didn't have very good acoustics for a "live" pop or rock n roll performance. The Ed Sullivan Theater (or whatever it was called then) was one of the exceptions; it had good acoustics.
57highland 1 month ago
@57highland though you wrote to notvalidcharacters, yes, a good part of it was technical in nature.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@57highland I can't see that as a reason. Acoustics really don't matter for a TV show since they use a studio, not a hall, so they create their own acoustics and they feed directly to the program (I have a long experience in broadcasting). I do remember the Beatles did their thing live, but not so sure about later acts in the Ed Sullivan Theater.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters Then you know more than I do; I have no experience in broadcasting. The person whose comment I read made it sound like there were good TV studios for sound and not-to-good. On a posting of "Mr. Dieingly Sad" by the Critters (lip-synched), one of the Critters (or someone claiming to be) said they were asked to lip-synch that performance, though they wanted to perform "live". Maybe the TV show people were just looking for the easy way to get through it.
57highland 1 month ago
@57highland I think you nailed it right there. The TV of the time was looking to make a quick buck with minimal effort on what they saw as a passing fad and didn't take seriously. If we remember the crooners of the older established gen on "variety" shows, you'd never see them lip-synch. When they later saw they could make more $ with authenticity, they went that way until it became a minimum standard.
btw "Mr Dieingly Sad" is one of the most brilliant pop compositions ever :-)
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters If you have time, look at "Mr Dieingly Sad" posted by SeaOvJapan and go back to page 27, bottom of the page, or maybe pushed back to page 28. Critter Jim Ryan ( "jrslam" ) gives a brief explanation of what artists were up against in that era when they wanted to perform "live." The post starts with "This is 'Where The Action Is' ...." And he says that clip was filmed at the Eden Rock Hotel in Miami. I know you have the knowledge, but still you might find it interesting.
57highland 1 month ago
@57highland Thanks, I found it ;-)
That's what I'm trying to tell this other guy-- nobody ever preferred lip synching, neither the artists nor the audiences. It was a cheap band-aid, pun intended ;-)
Critters trying to do it outdoors would have been quite a challenge with wind, lack of room tone, background noise, etc. It just comes down to the fact that we put a lot more into it now, plus have a lot more technology.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters where did i say the performers PREFERRED lip synching. quote me.
you have now delved into lying for no reason.
the audience didnt care, because for t.v. that's ALL THEY KNEW.
the more you lie, the more i'll correct you. it can end only one way...with the facts.
i don't know why you're lying, but you have to see i'll never let you get away with it.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@notvalidcharacters 5 days ago, page four:
"most t.v. shows in the 60s had their musical guests lip synch. not like it was a secret. folks didn't necessarily want to hear a live performance unless they went to a concert. t.v. was relatively new, and folks were able to see the performer PRESENT the song just like it was on the radio.
in short, they were no more lip synching on the t.v. show than performers lip synch on music videos now."
didn't NECESSARILY want a live performance.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@57highland here's what i said 7 hours ago:
"people in the 60s-70s did NOT CARE about a live performace in television (just like they dont care about a 'live performance' on music videos in the 80s-90s). they want(ed) the sound and the face(s)."
don't paraphrase or quote me out of context.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Absolutely! No way that wonderful Tony Hatch arrangement with overdubbing creating that "sound" could be duplicated by TV studio audio. It would have really been bad. This song sung by Petula into a cheap boom mike hanging just out of camera shot just about her head? You've got to be kidding me. 99 percent of viewers certainly liked the studio version and the appearance of this beautiful, talented woman. I think I'm in love all over again.
mercury73732 1 month ago
@mercury73732 THANK YOU.
that was all i'm trying to say...thanks for seeing where i was coming from.
and yes, it's a GREAT song; well written and orchestrated, well sung.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
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@notvalidcharacters this is on page two, noted "1 day ago":
"of COURSE we knew we were getting 'lip synching', we just didnt care. NOWHERE did i say/imply we PREFERRED lip synching. NOWHERE.
if that's how YOU understood things, that's not my responsibility. "
so as long as a day ago, i told you i never said people 'preferred' lip synching.
see how easily your lies are found. behave.
neoconsnightmare3 1 month ago
this is the video from sign of the times
preciousjey 1 month ago
Oh man, those were the sounds. Few write songs like this anymore. Go Tony Hatch. And Petula Clark was one of my favourite singeers of the day.
malectric 1 month ago
@malectric I once heard that this song is about The Cavern Club, in Liverpool, where the Beatles played in their early days. The line "a cellar full of noise" is supposed to be a direct reference to the Cavern, which was a downstairs place.
57highland 1 month ago
@57highland That's true. "A Cellarful of Noise" was the title of Brian Epstein's book about those days.
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
wish I knew a place to hide from 2012.
radicright 1 month ago 3
the dance of the dodo, tookie, and other flightless birds.
hiodr 1 month ago
I was in junior high when this song was popular. Great memories from the school dances. Do they even do dances any more?
theJetta1995 2 months ago
Hahaha.. I still got the 45rpm vinyl of this great song!......"Jagar"
ausfuhrpramienjagar 2 months ago
Pet is a goddess ... and Red Jacket is F***ing cool. He's not afraid to let his inner goofball (which we all have) hang out.
Themanwhocameback2 2 months ago 2
I'm seeing Petula early 2012.............tomorrow I'm buying a RED JACKET!!!!
Rogapol 2 months ago 2
@Rogapol Ahh, continuing a great tradition!
alzorama 2 months ago
@Rogapol -- or just go work for Marriott Hotels :-)
notvalidcharacters 1 month ago
Just can't take your eyes off of Red Jacket Guy!!
hibob418 2 months ago 2
Just can't take your eyes off of Red Jacket Guy!!
hibob418 2 months ago
The jealousy emanating from the man in the blue jacket towards the man in the red jacket makes this video all the more epic!
Razzamuffin1690 2 months ago 5
@Razzamuffin1690 Yeah, there's definitely some 'envy' vibes going on there.
alzorama 2 months ago
I like the guy in the red jacket too!
rmtmiller 2 months ago 2
Ahhh! my first crush. I loved this woman and I was only 5yrs old. Now I know that the dancers look like refugees from a cocain induced Tim Burton film, but you must remember, rock itself was still pretty young and folk music was still "in." And finding the right rhythm to dance to it was somewhat of a chore, Also remember that today's "simulated sex" on the dance floor will someday be old and ridiculed as well. At least these folks kept daylight between themselves.
SgtRock57 2 months ago
Music was devine but the dancers suck !lmao:) ya like I am any Better! Love it:)
radr4lf12 2 months ago
Take me there
TheRobash 2 months ago
Pet Clark was cute. Cool song too.
1969trippyhippy 2 months ago 2
Thank you Miss Clark
Groooooooovy
SearchForTomorrow 3 months ago 2
It's like Charlie Brown Christmas at the auditorium only the dancers are real...uh, where's Snoopy and Schroeder? lol
gabsylv 3 months ago
Why are those two big blurry strips across the picture?
sp1midholm 3 months ago
must have been a tight budget. They couldn't pay for dnacers, so they got these guys for free.
radicright 3 months ago
This is a knock-off of Downtown
gabsylv 3 months ago
Actually, they can dance....open your eyes....
centralparocker 3 months ago
people enjoy the song & video of yesterday or go away!
ohtxin 3 months ago
Jesus. White people really can't dance!
Lol, that is just freaken frightening.
MiaLeonora 3 months ago
@MiaLeonora It's Europeans dancing. To Europeans it's good.
gabsylv 3 months ago
@gabsylv
"White people" are another word for Europeans by the way.
MiaLeonora 3 months ago
@MiaLeonora That depends on which standards you apply in measuring whiteness. I don't want to sound racist because I'm opposed to racism. But to say Europeans can't dance is kind of silly, because there are differing standards for what good dancing is, just like there are standards for skin color, intelligence, etc. Actually, let's do away with judgmentalism and standards...
gabsylv 3 months ago 5
@gabsylv actually dancing on these shows was very restricted by network standards. I was told by dancers on Top of the Pops that they could not touch their dance partner, they could not do certain dances, they could not dance suggestively or sexually...so believe me, whites could dance, but on TV they were given strict criteria.
fumetti 3 months ago 3
@fumetti
Still looser than the 50s I reacon ... The 60s was about changing such criterias so even tho they were there the spirit of the 60s was to change all that nonsense
SearchForTomorrow 3 months ago
@fumetti Whites can't dance! Only Blacks can both sing, dance and jump. They are especially blessed! Just kidding, I appreciated your comment re restrictions placed on background dancers. BTW I loved "Dirty Dancing" with Patrick Swazy(RIP) & Jennifer Grey. Both of course White. Wrong again! A retired Catholic priest in Canada.
watchful38 2 months ago
@gabsylv all the time , everwhere I go i get the same politically correct nonsense disclaimer " but i'm not a racist" I'm sick of it. So what if you were? would you be any lesser of a person? I see it all around me, (racsim) by people's actions. Racism is merely a function of freedom of expression.
radicright 2 months ago
@radicright I'm white but I suffer daily from homophobia. If I accepted racism then I wouldn't have any right to complain about being called a fag constantly, now would I? Expressing racist or homophobic views is freedom of expression, but so is calling your own mother a puta. Accepting unjust behavior is inconscionable.
gabsylv 2 months ago
@gabsylv my handle defines my views. Do you think you can change them?
radicright 2 months ago
@gabsylv And to add to your comment, there are a lot of similar era videos that show people from other ethnicities who dance JUST AS "goofy". We all have our quirks and every generation has a style or too that seems weird of silly to another. Just love the song, and the video, for what it is/they are.
mousefir 1 month ago
I fell in love with petula as soon as I heard this song in early '65. I was 15 at the time. God bless you pet, wherever you are!
radicright 3 months ago
happy birthday petula!
missjoshemmett 3 months ago
Have to love the dancing....
centralparocker 3 months ago
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@mantonius8 I have to agree with you, I hung around many dance spots at the time Petula sang this and most people dancing then could lessons to this crowd, except, of course, Mr. Red Jacket!
Lloydhl 3 months ago
@mantonius8 I have to agree with you, I hung around many dance spots at the time Petula sang this and most people dancing then could lessons to this crowd, except, of course, Mr. Red Jacket!
Lloydhl 3 months ago
Hi all you folks out there that lived in Pittsburgh PA and everyone else Hi. Well i want to know if there is anyone out there that remembers a tv show called Come Alive it was a dance show. Cathy
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kborn076 3 months ago
They all look like they are dancing to different songs.
Benrytookthekeys 3 months ago
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@margretdupont1 she's still alive...
bggreenblatt 3 months ago
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@margretdupont1 Who said she died? I looked on Google today and nothing was said of Petula's passing. Who started this rumour because more than one person has said Petula Clark has died?
paul72kate 3 months ago
look at those moves in the background...priceless!!
lumbiaknight87 3 months ago 2
RED JACKET!!! YOU SHOW THEM YOUR STUFF!!! YOU DANCE GREAT!!! YOU ALSO LOOK LIKE YOU ARE IN EXCELLENT PHYSICAL CONDITION!!!
rednova55 4 months ago 3
Petula Clark was the 60's favourite MILF, before we even had such an expression...
therealjoebloggs 4 months ago
This was early pop music so the dancing is expressive, nerdy and fun - A time before everything became so self concious.
Andrewsmate 4 months ago 2
Actually, radio engineers were racing at the time to increase the musical quality of AM radio, before FM really came of age.
High level modulation transmitters; the first beginnings of audio processing; microwave supplanting tinny and muddy phone lines to the transmitter. By the time FM took over music programming, AM actually sounded pretty good.
Examples of this AM sound leadership would include WABC, CKLW, WCOL, Columbus, Oh. Engineers worked hard to get "that" sound.
mercury73732 4 months ago
iT JUST SOUNDS SOO '64/'65 SOMETHING- BRINGS BACK SUCH TRANSISTOR MEMORIES! That wall of sound.
AM radio was great then.
harponercam 4 months ago 6
@harponercam mostly tubes..few transistors..I was there!
fernfeyes 2 months ago
@harponercam You mean tubes!! They actually sound better!!
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No I mean transistors-
Tubes were in use mostly through the 50's- the spaceage replaced them with mass produced circut boards with transistors- The sound has more to do with power- when the transistors where then used in radios, the power was often less and smaller speakers were used for portability- so some people thought that older tubes radios still sounded better- comaparing apples and oranges- Tubes couldn't compete with later high powered stereo amps that had none.
harponercam 1 month ago
@harponercam "That wall of sound" is a separate thought from "transistor memories" where I'm referring to radios. The Wall of Sound was that full urban kinda sound that Phil spector got a lot of credit for, but was a larger style of the period anyway.: i.e. "You've Lost That Lovin Feeling" or "Five O'Clock World"
harponercam 1 month ago
Now, can this girl make love to the camera, or what? Look at how she perfectly projects herself into the lens.
Compare this to other such video of the era and you'll see that it absolutely sparkles. This was a high budget production
Petula acted in England since she was a young girl. That must explain the perfect stage presence.
I think I'm in love (all over again).
mercury73732 4 months ago 2
@mantonius8 You are wrong, it is not PC run amok. It is stupidity run amok. Let's see how you dance.
calihartley2010 4 months ago
@mantonius8 as a white man I have to agree with you--and I thought it was a funny comment.
xperdunn 4 months ago
3 peopel who disliked this video do not know where their place is.
calihartley2010 4 months ago
@mantonius8 Black men cannot keep their trap shut nor use their brains.
calihartley2010 4 months ago
How nice to see kids dance so nicley at a respectable distance. I wish kids of today would look at these kids dancing and learn how to dance properly instead of those nasty grinding steps.
calihartley2010 4 months ago
Petula-Pulsating!!
BerryVamp 4 months ago
Amateur kitchen dancing live on tv.
spareaxe 4 months ago
This was the height of Mod. It was groovy, swinging, happening and (for better or worse) all part of The 60's Experience.
StanKindly 4 months ago 4
@StanKindly -- So true!! It was a gas (to use the vernacular of that time-LOL.) Even as a 5 year old I watched Bandstand to learn how to Swim, Mash Potato, Watusi, etc.
fairfax1960 4 months ago
I remember my brother could dance up a storm, to this song!! didn't realize he was gay at the time!! lol
TheLadyjazzy1 4 months ago
Red Jacket man, we love you! What a happening!
MerleOberon 4 months ago 2
Red Jacket Guy needs his own fan club, He's just great - chewing the scenery without trying. Why do you think they put him up front and had Petula dancing with him during the bridge, and always trying to keep him in camera frame.
hibob418 5 months ago 4
@hibob418 And his lady partner, was cuttin the rug with joy. We should all flow so freely. God's Peace.
Sugaree1956 4 months ago
the dancers look so ackward, I don't remember dancing that badly ,
buffspringfield 5 months ago
There two guys dancing way in the back.
793willieb 5 months ago
The song is great, but I confess I always re-watch this video just to see the guy in the red jacket dancing. I wonder if he is alive to realize what a debate/sensation he has caused on YouTube.
alzorama 5 months ago 11
@alzorama I bet he and the chick he is dancing with were real hipsters!
Tadillac53 2 months ago
@Tadillac53 Yeah, they are definitely in the groove.
alzorama 2 months ago
@alzorama The red jacket guy is very handsome and fit!
gabsylv 2 months ago 4
@gabsylv And he's not afraid to let it all hang out and be groovy! Cool guy.
alzorama 2 months ago
@alzorama Watch him in her "A Sign of the Times" video...hes good in that too
Lonnyhaze1 2 months ago
@Lonnyhaze1 Thanks, I saw it. Totally groovy!
alzorama 2 months ago
@coledawg -Thanks for your responce. I'm thinking that since I began my comment with, "She seems ahead of her time" I'm absolved from claims that I made a time-frame contradiction. On your other point, yeah I agree, that type of dancing could well have inspired 80s New Wave style.
RickeyRamone 5 months ago
good lord !!! you are absolutely right ----white men can,t dance-THEY SHIMY!!!
19bcm56 5 months ago
She seems ahead of her time. It has a bit of 80s New Wave feel. At hte end she seems to be mixing 80's New Wave dance style in with the 60's style. She was so cute and put a lot of herself into the dekivery. Charming!
RickeyRamone 5 months ago
@RickeyRamone I know I'm being INCREDIBLY picky, but your statement is bugging me. She can't have mixed 80's New Wave dance style in with anything she'd done... because it hadn't happened yet. If anything, whatever made you think "huh, this kind sounds like new wave 80's", then it may have very well been inspired by music like this. The way you said it doesn't make sense. That'd be like saying "Wow, this blues song seems heavily influenced by Rock & Roll." It just doesn't work that way.
coledawg 5 months ago
Also there's a few very relaxed male dancers in the background, like the dark haired guy, white shirt collar-brown coat-grey trousers to the left of and behind Petula at 2:13 ! Regards.
MrSlitskirts 5 months ago
I like the Sesame Street beginning to all of her place...LOL
Rahxn 5 months ago
Great song and Petula's lovely. I know it's very "sanitised" but it still sort of gets you. And seeing the women dancing (including Petula) with their skirts is nice !!! A pity about the video "artifact" that appears at times; but still good. Regards.
MrSlitskirts 5 months ago
Damn, I would love to have punch the bottom out of this woman..
blueticecho 5 months ago
I love the whole thing, quintessential sixties!
mythicky 5 months ago 2
@mythicky - I absolutely agree with you.! Nothing is more 60's to me, than Petula Clark, and other pop 60's music.
She is quintessential 60's.!! Just like the Seekers singing "Hey there Georgie Girl", or Dionne Warwick, singing Burt Bacharach songs like, "I'll Never Fall in Love again", etc, as I loved the Bosa Nova songs as well, like "the girl from Ipanema", and so on.. Loved all of it, and I wish it were still here.. as they were much simpler, and happier times..
MrSonny119 5 months ago
LOL, I was like that guy in red, just let the feet fly with the music, had a blast and no one cared, it was all about fun and girls!
Lloydhl 5 months ago 2
I like the guy on the right in the white jacket....he's like "one, two, three....arm up, arm down..."
PLeighG 5 months ago
My favorite song by Ms Clark! A real gem! A song that kicked off the Dodge Rebellion era, the start of the Dodge Dart/Dodge Coronet era!
BeatleBangs1964 5 months ago
This dancing group in the background reminds me of my dancing days in college, late 80s, early 90s. I have so much fun dancing house, reggae, punk, salsa, merengue. I wish I could live those days, and enjoy myself like the guy in the red jacket here.
Quixotepr 5 months ago
@mantonius8 Like Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire?
catholicpriest1 6 months ago
Yeah this was on TV back then, all the people there had rules of things they really couldnt do which left them with this.....lol
XDvision 6 months ago
OMG....Just listen to the D^%# MUSIC AND ENJOY IT!!!!!
paladin520 6 months ago
In my opinion, we all can dance, in our own way, and we all dance great. the notion is, we all can have fun & groove to her music. no need to say this and that, let's all have fun listening to her music!!!!!!
pkappel006 6 months ago
@mantonius8 That's stupid remark.
1. That's like saying that even the poorest black dancer is a better dancer than the best white dancer.
2. That's like saying that black men can't swim. But then I'd be called a racist of course.
SixtiesPopGold 6 months ago 18
@SixtiesPopGold yeah you go tell them!!! stop these rascist remarks!
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@SixtiesPopGold I think he should have said THESE white men can't dance. Nobody could dispute that.
avpowers 5 months ago
@SixtiesPopGold Who cares if you are called a racist. You should not worry about that. I am glad that you gave that racist skunk a lovely dose of his medicine.
calihartley2010 4 months ago
@SixtiesPopGold black people have a natural rhythm from living in the jungles of deapest darkest africa watch the movie the dark of the sun oscar peterson was the greatest pianist he was black dizzy gilspie was the greatest trumpet player he was black john coltrane was the greatest sax player he was black
spacepatrolman 4 months ago
why the hell did the cameraman put 2 pcs of scotch tape on the lens?
pbrick6301 6 months ago
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Hold the lens on?
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Appleholic1 6 months ago
who'd a thunk that guys wearing ties and girls wearing dresses would look strange 45 years later ...
jff119 6 months ago
Look how this woman knows how to make love to the camera and exactly the right stage business for the musical bridge. Exactly the right look, right into the camera. She was a showbiz veteran even at this young age and she had "it."
Todays creations of overdubbing and producers could not hold a candle to Petula Clark, in the studio or live, onstage.
As for the critics of the quality of the video, don't forget color video tape had just, basically ,emerged from the lab then.
mercury73732 6 months ago
Is it me or is Petula dancing BETTER than the dancers in this clip? LMAO!! Just saying!!
dh1173 6 months ago
Thanks for uploading. I love this song.
eurasian1974 7 months ago
Just another beautiful woman.
skipper8257 7 months ago
Two things: in-joke in the lyrics: "...a cellarful of noise" is a reference to the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein's Book about the Fab Four. This was parodied by Eric Idle. The Rutles' manager, Leggy Mountbatten wrote the book, "A Cellarful of Goys".
2. The fellow in the red jacket looks like a 60's version of Richard Kind. This is less dangerous than one of Clark's earliest gigs, singing on the radio during WWII during a bombing raid.
gilgamess 7 months ago