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  • Well Shorrosh's speech was pointless...My 5 year old can read ,even better than him i might add, this pre-printed text.

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    I thought this was a debate ? Very disappointing... : /

  • what I find funny is the trailers that keep coming up during the debate. And if the good Dr. Did what was said about the fire that still doesn't change the debate. the truth is Christainity sarted before Islam almost 600 year before. Attack the person without giving a good rebtual makes you lose the arugment. So use foul language, and attack the person.

  • @retircs1 these are because to tell the layman what is lie and what is truth. because a non muslim can be misguided with such lies so it is to show ppl to check it up with the Holy Quran, whether these things are said by Allah or by Anis. i hope u understand the purpose now.

  • a doctor..who got award..many award...can only read..this is debate..not bed time..ahmad deedat is not a dctor..but bible and quran are in his head..now you choose

  • Pre-Islamic history tells us that many Arabian tribes were stone worshippers. This is also mentioned in Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661. The Old Testament even talks about Mideast pagan groups that worshipped stones. Muhammad incorporated the Kaba's paganistic roots into Islam to give the Muslims a sense of identity, legitimacy, and uniqueness. He also wanted to ease the Arab's strain of moving from paganism to Islam, by continuing the practices of their fathers.

  • Anish really exposed the evil in quran..God bless him!!

  • Only reading...?, my child is in the elementary school...even could doing it...any another debater better than him...? i disappoited

  • why Anis Shorrosh is in American Jail because of destroying tax evidence & setting a house on fire? He should not be in jail because Jesus already paid for his sin!!

  • Its like Mohammed Ali vs Dmitri Salita

  • @lilmean12 shut the fuck up....shut ur piehole...he died in peace...ur stupid dick licking pussy shorosh is now in jail for arson....he wanted to set an apartment full of people on fire ...thank u christian

  • out of topic..idiot..

  • What a stupid.....

  • 111dfdf, so you think you can go to heaven 100%....and how do you know that if a christian ppl die one day, are they Going to Heaven??? Did you go before into heaven?! Think again!

  • ALL YOU CLEAR HEADED PEOPLE!!!LISTEN TO THIS WHAT ANISH SORROSH SAYS CAREFULLY AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH!!ISLAM IS NOT THE WAY TO HEAVEN!!ONLY JESUS IS!!!!

  • @111dfdf ol u clear headed people!!! listen to THE WHOLE LECTURE nd u wil know which is de word of god. but if God has sealed ur heart den i m sorry 2 say v can do nothing. nor can u.

  • POOR AHMAD DEEDAT!!HE MUST HAVE BEEN FRIGHTENED OUT OF HIS WITS!!!ANISH SORROSH CLEARLY WINS AND SLAMS A DOOR OF DEFEAT AT ISLAM!!

  • @111dfdf ahmad deedat scared? have you been listening to the whole debate?? i think ahmad deedat is sleeping right now out of boredom..

  • This guy Reminds me of ma Science teacher.. they both just kept on reading -.-

  • LOOK FOR VIDEO'S " DEEDAT ADMITS DEFEAT BY- ANIS SHOROSH ON YOUTUBE, THEY BLOCKED THE COMMENT SECTION"

    DINT EXPECT THIS ANIS IS SUCH A BIG ASSHOLE

    AFTER DEBATING WITH SUCH A BIG SCHOLAR HE DID SUCH A CHEAP ATTEMPT

    SO DOWN TO EARTH , SHAME ON U ANIS

  • this kafr and renegate of anis shorross is not even explaining stuff , he is just reading a speech he wrote , haaaa christain they will never win the muslims when it comes to debate, me i can debate him

  • Anis is talking about and quoting the Quran and Hadiths. What reference to you need. It's obvious some Muslims here don't know the Quran and Hadiths.

  • @jov3d he is not talking abt the bible... he is not saying the correct thing of the qur'an..

  • @jov3d v can open ur eyes not ur heart.

  • The video is cut. One whole argument was erased. Lose credibility there.

  • I have found that his arguments thus far have no foundation or are out of context. He has built his house on sand!

  • Anish proves what he says and doesn't take it out of context. The Quran confirms the Bible but the Bible does not confirm the Quran???

  • @REELISTICLY Ok what happened then.. some of this is missing.. these people in the audience are rude and ignorant. I cant believe they r shouting at him when he talks.. well actually I can believe it to be honest.

  • @TheChrissy48 It reminds me of Elementary Kids when they loose control with their teacher. If you see the video they can't have an open mind, anything they say about Muhammad or the Quran they get angry but when Ahmad talks about the Bible the Christians act civilized.

  • This guy (Anis Shorrosh) is not talking logic or providing references like Ahmed Deedat did. Where are the PROOFS AND REFERENCES COMPARING Bible and Quran (as the Title of the debate suggests)? Anis Shorrosh is totally illiogical and boring; and he is NOT sticking to the topic! Unprofessional!!!

  • @sabashsabash Ru Kidding Deedat had abt 3 ref for the whole BORING talk.. he had no EVIDENCE whatsoever except to be and idiot using pathetic rubbish to make a point there what NOTHING historical in his talk however Anis Shorrosh KNOWS his history. he OWNED deedat and whoever added this video knws it since they CUT SOMETHING OUT OF IT.

  • @TheChrissy48 oh yes he did.. God, you are blind and deaf...

  • anis allways speaks with out refrences, i saw many of his debates with badawi.

    he tells lies speaking with no proves, reading from a paper that toke him 3years to wrote 1985-1988, this is not a debate.

    Allah yentaqim menah adow al islam. amen

  • so why do kiss the kaaba?? its actually allah's turd, its layghing at u while u kiss it!

  • WHY ARE MUSLIMS SOO IGNORANT????listen to this people this guy is actually literate (unlike other speakers) and he knows what he's talking about COMEEE ONN

  • nobody listening his shit, bla bla bla thats all, go and earn your money shorrosh

  • Muslims you are owned

  • hmkautomoto cut the video because he didnt want to show the people about kabah

    and the black stone

    muslims are afraid that we might know it

    now we know

  • May all Muslim come to know JESUS CHRIST as the only way to salvation!!!

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  • @RICKYCRUZCASTILLO May you be blessed with islam. Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet of God. May Allah guide you aright. And, only Allah can save you from harm as nothing can happen without his will. Some of you believe jesus (p.b.u.h) was god and some believe he is the son of god? If he is God then who did he use to pray to?

  • Shit Anis is totally lost!

  • is this Debate or Book reading ????

    Mr Shorrosh learn the manners of debate

  • Jessewb: You cannot apply human "logic" to God. Logic itself cannot be used to prove logic itself with using circular-reasoning. Science itself is built on many fundamental unprovable assumptions. There was a time that it was "logical" to think the earth was flat, until we got more knowledge. Pray to God for more knowledge and then maybe you're logic will change too. If the quran was never shared with some distant peoples on an island somewhere, are they going to hell?

  • Those who never knew of Islam will not go to hell as they are innocent. The same goes for those who have not experienced puberty for they are considered as immatured and still can not think rationally.

    Hey, I agree with you that "logic" can't be applied to God. Logic can't be applied to divine power as it is simply beyond our imagination.

  • Also, it is true that the Qur'an has not been translated to different languages. The reason behind this is because the language which Allah used was great Arabic literature. It could not be translated because when it is tried to be translated, the meaning behind it will differ.

    If you did not understand that point, try to translate Shakespear's work to another language. The meaning behind his words will differ greatly wouldn't it? That's exactly why the Qur'an could not be translated.

  • Besides, numerous Tafsir Al-Qur'an has been made and spread out throughout he world. This is a text which explains the content of the Qur'an by TRYING to translate it to another language. These texts do exist. But their translation is NEVER as accurate as how you would read it in the original text (in arabic).

    I hope this will clear your doubts yistackness. If you have anymore, please do share them. :)

    Assalamualaikum (Peace be upon you)

  • So if muslims do not try spreading Islam to the world, maybe less people will go to Hell (since they would not know of Islam), correct?

    I agree with you that "logic cannot be applied to God", but i find it strange when I hear people say things like "God doesn't need to become a man", or "Why would God need to sacrifice anything". There could be so many things going on since the beginning of time in the psiritual world that we don't know about. Look at what happens in the book of Job!

  • The reason why we spread Islam to the world is similar to why other religion spread theirs. God sent messengers (including Muhammad pbuh and Jesus pbuh) exactly for that purpose; to spread the knowledge of God. So that people know who created them and hence, worship their Creator, for it is He who give us life and He who gives us all that we have today.

  • Many things have happened in the spiritual world including corruption and false ideologies. Infact, it is even believed that Islam itself will have over 70 branches by the time world ends, out of which only 1 is the true path as the rest are simply corrupted in one way or another.

  • BOOO: But if all muslims suddenly died and all qurans destroyed, then no one would go to hell, right? If muslims go to heaven, and people who never heard about Islam and the quran also go to heaven, then no one would go to hell. This is how you explained it to me. Maybe the muslims would not have to die, but simply not tell anyone about Islam. I don't know, it's not my religion. I don't have a religion, but I believe in God. I believe God saves us, not religion. Religion is man-made ideas.

  • The fact that the devil exists makes it impossible to have no one to go to hell. Do you think it is fair to have rapists and murderers in Heaven? I personally don't think so. Religion exists to show the right path to live and to encourage good deeds to be done. It reminds us of our mistakes and makes us constantly aware of our actions. Such that we will be scared of hell and hence will not do bad acts.

  • A muslim told me that the quran says that Allah would forgive even satan if he asked for forgiveness. Satan is so much worse than a murderer or rapist, right? The original meaning of "hell" was simply and end of someone's existence (which is a type of eternal punishment). It was religion that changed the it's meaning to include eteernal torment to control the people with fear. Religion is satan's tool, even Jesus hated religion. About 85% of the criticism of Jesus was to the religious leaders.

  • Honestly, I never heard of Jesus hating religion. "The Qur'an says that Allah would forgive even satan". True. But till now, satan has not asked for it. He swore to bring the Children of Adam (us) to hell with him by telling us to do bad deeds.

    Well.. I didn't know that the original meaning of "hell" was the end of someone's existence. If that was true, then hell = death isn't it? To me, hell is really eternal torment for those who do not believe. And it's really physical punishment.

  • BOOO: Yes, I know that the Quran says that God would even forgive Satan if he asked. But if Allah knows what will happen to the future of everything he created, then he knows who will go to hell already, and this means he created some people to go to hell. How can one of his names truely be "most mercifull" if he created some people to be tortured forever. True mercy would be to never have created them in the first place. The punishment should fit the crime. What crime justifies eternal torture?

  • The crime of not appreciating what is given to you for your whole life. The crime of not worshipping your Creator. The crime of going against what your God tells you to do. And many others.

    Allah sets the future for us on the day we were borned. True. But Allah also says in the Qur'an that, "He will only change the lives of those who really pursue for that change". We humans still have a choice of what kind of life we want to live. Just as we have a choice of choosing what we intend to do tmr

  • BOOO: If allah created me and knows my entire furute, then he created me knowing that I will not believe in him. That means he created me to torture me forever. How is this "mercifull"? True mercy would be if he never created me in the first place. I'd much rather not exist than to go to hell forever. You say that allah will change the lives of those who really pursue for that change - but allah already knows who will and will not pursue. Why doesn't he simply make people who pursue?

  • yistackness: Interesting question you have there and indeed it has got me thinking myself. As I have said before though, though the life of one has been set before one is even borned, one still have the CHOICE of how one wants to live it.

    That CHOICE of living is one which is given to all mankind. Whether you want to accept what is being preached is entirely up to you. Allah can change your future if He wants to. And hence, he can change your destiny as well.

  • BOOO: I'm sorry, but you're not really making sense. You say our lives are "set", but that we have choice. Predeterminism and choice are contradictory. How can one of God's name be "Most Merciful" if He "set" some people to be eternally tormented? The fabrication of a torturing hell came from Enoch who described what he saw was hell. And we now see that he was describing a black hole - a place where time and space cease to exist. Hell is non-existance.

  • Well.. to make things simpler, you know when you plan for an event or vacation, you have already "set" what you are going to do there from what time to what time, that kinda thing. So your event or vacation has been "SET" beforehand, and you don't go for the event/vacation not knowing what you will do.However, you still have a CHOICE of changing what you wanna do when you're going through your vacation or event. That is the simplest metaphor which I can think of for you. Does it make sense now?

  • Hell is something which was mentioned in the Qur'an. Described as a place burned over and over again and of eternal flames. It is described as an inferno. I don't know who is Enoch though and hence I don't know his story. What I do know is that a place burning eternally can't be a black hole. Perhaps you can describe more of Enoch's experience?

  • BOO: Sorry if you feel offended about my veiws on Islam, but they are the same for many other religions (like catholics, etc). We can agree that satan is the enemy of God. He tries to make God look bad. Bat can he do a better job than the way many world religions make Him look bad? This is why I believe satan helped encourage many doctrines. Enoch was the 7th generation from Adam. He was the great grandfather of Noah. But his book is not in the bible. Would you like me to send you information?

  • yist: You know what? Your understanding of what I said is perfectly right. "Your example tells... to heaven". That is absolutely true. It applies not only to going to heaven only also. It applies to anything, whether u succeed in life, whether you turn rich, anything at all. What we Muslims are taught is that, if you really want something you have to do 3 things,

    1. Work hard for it.

    2. Constantly ask Allah for His help

    3. Leave the rest of it to God's work.

  • You see, if say a child lies to his mum and his mum gets angry. How does the child make his mum forgive him? By pleaing and constantly trying to make his mum happy. By helping in doing housework, not staying out too late and giving presents. The same thing goes in Islam. If you did something wrong or if you're a non-believer, then plea to God for forgiveness, and with God's grace he will forgive you. The child has a choice of pleaing and not just let it be does he? it's not an illusion. :)

  • BOO: I understand your example with a child and mother. But examples only work in certain cases. We are talking about God and us. In you example, it would not make sense if the mother got upset at her child when she forced the child to lie. All I am saying is that Allah would actually be merciful if he did not creat those who would go to hell in the first place. Look at your example. If the child lies to his mother, does the mother then tie the child and burn him with a torch forever?

  • Perhaps not if the child lies, but maybe if the child refuses to acknowledge the fact that she is his mother. And he refuses to do so for a few decades till he meets his death. I'm certain most mothers would be extremely upset about it. I get your drift on your question. And hence I'll reply with another. If we are all made to be believers, then why not just send us straight to heaven and not let us live in this world? Surely there is a reason behind this isn't there?

  • BOO: Everyone has a different view on love. Mothers love their children. The most important thing to a mother is not that the child acknowledges their parenthood, but that the child grows safe, wise, loving, successful, etc. But i would really encourage you to read the book of Enoch (google it) - even though I know you don't believe in it, you should do it just as an interesting read. Jesus in the bible even references the book. It's also mentioned in the book of Jude. Enoch was a prophet.

  • Yep I will read about it once my exams are over. Which will be in about 20 days time. It has intrigued me abit I must say.

  • BOOO: I used to be christian. I still believe in Jesus, etc, but the reason I don't call myself christian anymore is because the term "christian" doesn't tell you what the person believes. Christian can be anything from catholic to baptist to penacostal, etc. The problem is that every one of these groups believes they are the only ones with the truth. Jesus said I AM the Truth. I don't like how religion tries to tell you that you must do what THEY say, or you will go to hell.

  • BOO: I can understand your example of "Set". You can "set" a plan for your vacation, etc. I get it. Trust me when I say that this is something I have put a lot of thought in before. If allah "set" our lives and future, then some of us are "set" to going to hell, correct? If that is the case, then "choice" is just an illusion. We would only be thinking we are making our decisions on our own. Your example tells me that if allah changes his mind on what he "set", only then would I go to heaven.

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  • @amirul1111: the original meaning for hell was "non-existence". Hell in Hebrew was a name of a city's garbage dump that was over a cliff behind the city. It continually burned and smoldered, but it means somewhere where things go to no longer exist. If your mother tells you not to eat poison, but you do it anyways and get really sick. Does this mean your mother pusished you? Of course not, the poison did. Adam and Eve were warned that the apple would change them.

  • The Muslims believe that God doesn't need to become human because he has messengers to do that and Angels to do it for him. He is the Almighty God and thus, "do not have to do it Himself".

    And it is just awkward to believe that God has to sacrifice Himself to get rid of the sins of Mankind, when He can just forgive them Himself just like that. You get what I mean here?

  • We do believe he created him, he said "be" and Jesus(pbuh) was. and like you said, just like everything else, so it doesn't make Jesus THE ONLY SON, in the perspective of creation rather, why does God need offspring, "need" is the key word. God needs nothing. Offspring is only necessary in a case of going to die.

    Is God going to die? If you think offspring is needed in other occasions other than self death. Give me one real world example. That's all you need to show me.

  • wow! Dr. Shorrosh is kicking the crap outta Mr. Deedat! It's true when he says that Christians at least try spreading the Word of God by translating His message in almost 1800 languages. Muslims are proud that the quran has never changed, but that is only because they don't care about other cultures except their own. If they actually have a message from God, why not share it?

  • Part of the reason.

    In my opinion, is because i'm sick of debating with such ignorance that with everything in your face you say guys say no.

    So why share water with those who aren't thirsty.

    That's all I've got to say.

  • Jessewb: It's funny you talk about thirst. What should you do if a stranger is lusting after your wife? Your prophet says that your wife should cure him by letting him suck her breasts 10 times. Anyone can find what appears to be contradictions in someone else's religion. I personally hate religion (like Jesus did), but I love God. Religion is Man's interpretation of God. God reveals himself. When people asked Jesus how to pray, he didn't teach them to pray to him, but to God instead.

  • Well mister, tell me where to find this hilarious story. You crack me up.

    Are you insane? In Islam we can't lust after single nor married woman, and you say to let him suck on her breast 10 times.

    2nd we follow the teachings of Christ, if he said he who looketh at a woman to lust after her, as already committed adultery in his heart"

    And adultery is forbidden.

    Dude, I don't know where you get your facts from, but that's some crazy stuff right there in your head.

    Peace be upon you.

    LMAO.

  • Jessewb: Just youtube: " Muslim Women Can Let Strangers Suck Their Breast "

    2nd. You are right. This is why it was needed for Jesus to come down to pay for our sins. Why is it so hard to understand that it is possible to sin in your heart? What if I told you i was muslim and did everything that you did, but everytime I prayed beside you I was praying inside my head "Jesus is the Son of God". Is that not a sin in Islam? Is it ok to do?

    Peace is already upon me. May God reveal Himself to us.

  • If you take it that he is a created son, not a begotten son, because you DO KNOW WHAT IT IS TO beget , and I wouldn't attribute to god such behaviour which is the lower animal function of sex.

    I repeat if you believe he is the created Son of God, we in Islam have no issue with that. You are welcome to it. Since we are all created by God. If to you prophet Jesus(prophet) is greater than Mohammed(pbuh) who are we to argue with you.

    Since peace is already upon you, may it continue. :D

  • You are wrong. To beget is to have offspring. Animals have to perform certain "actions" in order to beget. God could beget without those same "actions". Why can't God creat inside the womb just like how he created everything outside the womb including the womb itself? Have a little more faith in God. Try believing that He is actually more powerful than you can even imagine. I know it's hard, but try having faith that God more powerful and amazing than us.

  • it is possible to sin in your heart, but how are you fair, you love Jesus(pbuh) this and that, but are all happy and glee to just let him be murdered in a brutal fashion just so you get off scot free in the hereafter.

    You say God is a god of love? what kind of love is sending your child to be killed and tortured and crucified. It's not only unfair, but illogical, and cruel. God doesn't need sacrifice. If he wants to forgive, he can do it on his own, he is greater than needing a sacrifice.

  • It is your question that is unfair. Just because God can create a reality that you do not understand does not mean it doesn't exist or isn't fair. But you should be careful with your accusations, because they can also be applied to allah. You can punish your child for doing wrong without feeling happy about the punishing. You know the punishment is to make the child better. But why would allah create pain in this world? Our logic is not the same as God's logic. You don't know everything going on

  • No, I'm sorry to tell you this, but God didn't create pain a suffering.

    People did, And I take my hat off to you people creating something.

    And yes, pain and suffering is only a miss use of the nervous system in your body.

    Pain is used so that you understand that you are doing wrong to your body. Like to know if you put hand in the fire, to take it away because it's harming you.

    People just upped the ante and used is as torture to people.

    So don't blame God for people's own miss doing.

  • 1st My question is not unfair, it's logical.

    2nd, to make the child better?

    What did Jesus(pbuh) ever do wrong to pay.

    If you had a brother and you killed someone, can I send your brother to jail?

    It's just simply not fair, to have sacrifices for your sins.

    That's what I'm saying. God is all just.

    You are responsible for YOUR actions,

    You have no original sin from Adam,

    Did he ask you to eat the apple? NO, so you not blame.

    MY GOD IS YOUR GOD, Allah is GOD in Arabic. It's the same.

  • you're looking at the example wrong. God became flesh, but that doesn't mean he was absent in heaven, He called his earthly form His "Son". God is everywhere in Time, even the present. Stop applying mathematical laws to God, He's the one that created those laws and are not bound by them or your logic. Logic cannot even prove logic. Everything is faith based, you just take most of it for granted. History is "His" + "Story". Just because God does something doesn't mean He "nedded" too.

  • why hmkautomoto cut this video?

    something to scare?

    how bad are you...

  • i didnt cut the video, i uploaded as i found it...anis shorrosh is so weak i dont have to do anything

  • so why the voice not clear?

    are strong than anis shorrosh?

    in what part that cause you saying that?

    in the last of this video you can verify that deedat admit defeeted

  • tell me.

    If you had to invent 100 idiocies.

    and give me 5 minutes to correct you.

    How would I correct you in time.

    That isn't admitting defeat

    It's admitting you said so much nonsense.

    I don't have time to educate you enough.

    ;) isn't it.

  • @hmkautomoto jesus loves you

  • @hmkautomoto

    you are a fucking partial bastard! why don't you didn't do anything with the oldie deedat burning in hell now.

    good for him. the truth burn?

  • @shalimaar444 only God knows abt it...

    but wat v ol know very well is dat anis shorrosh is rotting in jail. gud for him, god is just.

  • @hmkautomoto you are truth best any way he self got shame

  • @kalabatu1 the video was too boring so we shortened it..

  • @kalabatu1 From where you kno that we cut video produce your proof. this is your act not our.

    this is you in spiding of watching truth, you deny from truth, this is you that sex with your sister this you that tried to devide the god 3 by god you viewers tell me in this funny faith appears any logic 3 is one one is 3 funny. even you comic belive on god

  • is this dude presenting a thesis paper or to debate with ahamd deedat.most of his content seems like he is presenting his research.

    what a poor loser.and he is trying to play a psychology games by wearing the arab traditional cloth which is mostly known to be a muslim cloth

  • Drop your bias and listen to what he is saying!!

  • @akuInsanBiasa Hahahaa Yeah man you are right !

  • @akuInsanBiasa: Love your comment; I was thinking the same thing. This Anis Shorrosh is so illogical and boring.

  • good fact...  cant to defeat

  • i agree with u my friend, and God punished him in theese days hes in Jail for burning his family!!

  • may god punish this ignorant stupid dude he is named doctor but im sure a kid would be more reasoning than this stupid. im sure u stupid doctor dont know that everything that is written in quran in science way, are just being proven today after 14 centuries not like the bible which talks about killing and fckn ladies.

  • All I hear from the muslim community is vulgar and debasing language!! He burned his family? Really? How crude, well Deedat lay in his death bed staring at the horror of hell for years before he was allowed to go there. If you think me wrong, watch the videos of his death on youtube!! The truth is all that matters, religon is worthless. Christian religion is worthless, muslim religion is worthless. All the matters is God, who He is, let Him say! Stop deciding for yourselves.

  • vulgar language which is in the bible...

    and only speaking in harsh terms in reply to harsh accusations against islam...

    you attack with ferocity and lies and then act like innocent 'cherubims' when you get a reply

  • and yes sheikh deedat has died, so will you and you will face your lord Allah...

    and he will ask you about those you worshipped besides him, may Allah guide you to the true path

  • The god you worship is a lie. There is only one God, YHWH, His Son Jesus is my Saviour, and I thank Him that I will never have to answer to such a god as Allah. I'm sorry you feel attacked, I only tell the truth. The word of God, which your Koran call "The Book", is the only truth there is.

  • You do know YHWH is Allah.

    It's one and the same God.

    So don't say you won't meet you him when you die.

    Peace be upon you and best of luck.

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