Equinox TV Douala, Cameroon Debating on Vote Sizing 1

[modjuye]

i think the whole debat is outdated or comes too early , the real debat today in afric , especially in cameroon should be paul bya dictatorship , how can we complain about a political system(democraty) that we have never ben subjected to , there has never been democraty in cameroon , or i any african country apart from south africa , this is the real problem

[camer302]

Wchich is the level of equilibrium from wchich we can move?? At wchich point can we say that a human being is not too hungry to begin to think with his own head and do the battles??

[VoteSizer]

I don't think it's about hunger. The main reasons why the act of voting was introduced into human beings is because some people in their minority had all and others in their majority had nothing. So the act of voting came to reduce or take away the too many owned the the minority to give to the majority. So we are talking about equal power (equality in political and economical) and not money and human beings.

[camer302]

It's all about hunger. I'll be brief. There are two kinds of rights: Let me call first generation rights i.e the right to vote, liberty of speech...and second generation rate i.e social and economic rights, right to good education, equal opportunity, health, ..future.

Now look, if you try to study what happened in human history, you'll notice that real first generation rights distanced second generation rights for not more than 60 years roundly. But before the two, there was at least

[camer302]

I continue, before the two rights, there was at least a minimal condition from wchich people could stand and fight for their rights, my opinion is that cameroonian society has not yet come to that turning point. Unless you have the cameroonian economy pushing forth and through and at the same time cameroonians living in bad conditions and legitimately looking for better conditions, good syndicates, and so on...it will be quite difficult to have democracy. Now they are so despaired,

[camer302]

Now they are all so despaired, ready to sell their own mother for a little money, so preoccupied, but lacking of the feeling that they have the same fate and their battle is the same. Their awareness united with the sense of belonging is not yet weel developed and they don't understand yet that the only way is to fight together or perish. It is not a matter of talking, only improving economy will bring economy. I believe that the real system for cameroon and africa is not the democratic one

[camer302]

Only by improving economy we have a chance of having democracy, you don't share when you are not forced to, that's human nature, and it is only when economy is large, and you have a lot of people working but still leaving in bad conditions and eager to change the equilibrium of power since they are the majority that democracy can walk in. My deep feeling is that cameroon, africa, is not yet ready to democracy, the best for them is a an ENLIGHTED DICTATORSHIP.

[camer302]

An enlighted dictatorship must be authentically african, if not, therefore we will go back to the kind of thing Mobutu and others did. An authentic african dictatorship will first on one hand cut off the that kind of relationship with western countries wchich sees us like their essui-pied in the front of the door, secondly, create the conditions for local business man to grow seriously. Encourage next to door businees with our african neighbours, construct very good schools,

[camer302]

An enligthed dictator should encourage labour, studies, culture, but must be very carefull with liberty of speech, it not that the guy is bad, it not about that, because if you of that, then it is better to let things the way they are now, the fact is that we are very very out of te real time, we are in the 21 century, but our real time is before the french revolution!!! mentally, socially , economicaly! To stop here, the enlighted one if he is not killed, must isolate his country

[camer302]

If he is not killed and has the chance to have people to work with him, he must isolate his own country from the western ones, try to forge an authentic capitalist class, assess certain morals and values, and try to be in control for the maximum time possible, because if the real time for him to go comes he'll go , it will mean that the social forces he has put in are big enough to overthrough him and at least he must be willing to give his head cut off for the country!

[camer302]

The Enligthed one is a kind of mad scientist, who is about to create a monster, the monster is the state, the nation, he knows that in the process of doing so he'll have to so many things , but for all those things the aim will only be the greatness of his people, and one day his creature will destroy him, it is a NECESSITY! That's the only way for us to achieve democracy, now we are very very very very FAR!

Long live Cameroon!!

[VoteSizer]

We don't vote for someone who has a hummer jeep to now own a private jet or for someone to move from the status of a millionaire to that of a billionaire. We vote because we want those who can't send their children to school, who are unable to get themselves treated in a good hospital, who are unable to live in a safe and secure environment, who are unable to feed, who are unable to have drinking water, who are unable to take their produce from the farm to the market, to have a breakthrough.

[camer302]

I believe that talking about democracy in Cameroon, and in Africa is pure illusion.

Let me ask you one question: Do you believe that if in Cameroon, Democracy was enforced in its most genuine interpretation, the conditions of cameroonians would have improved? I believe no. The results will be extreme volatilty and the incapacity of governing that country.

I believe that all Cameroonians are too hungry to be able to vote, first there is a need to give the minimum to live then we can talk of vote

[VoteSizer]

You are right. "pure illusion" democracy in Africa is because we are relying on an outdated or out-of-context mechanics of democracy. What do you mean by enforcing democracy? What do we need, changing the poeple or the system?

[modjuye]

@camer302 , i totally agree with you , the direct needs of the population is to feed himself , to get education and protection , how can we even speak about democraty in a country where we ignore the exact amount of the population ? , a country where people are nearly starving , and where protection of voters is unexistant , the police is corrupted from the top to the bottom , it is time for cameroonians to organize and attempt a revolution

[Voiceofcameroon]

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