BARN OWL (OWLET) Dying Part I (Very Sad - HUGO DIED APRIL 11

[jomill78]

ok so get up off your @ss and help the last owl out, sted of just standing there watching it cry for help.......

[shoona101films]

how come u can't help him?

[lsoph9]

@shoona101films it's nature and not my nextbox. plus, this was from 3 years ago and the cam owners stated they would never interfere with what happened in this box

[dbserious1]

to us nature is sometimes "cruel" and its very hard to watch but nature is simply that ..nature. Man it sucks at times for us animal lovers tho - we just want to see the big happy family version all the time

[wolflover1104]

The mother killed the owlets!! Sometimes the mother gets disturbed by something and rejects the owlets. She then sees her owlets as pests and enemies and attacks them. That's why she is just standing there. I know it's sad but this is nature.

[MedicalKiller212clan]

Im a 17 yr old male and i cried to this,i love barn owls and this is brutal. That mother or father should be put down, right away.

[lsoph9]

@MedicalKiller212clan why is you name medicalKiller?

[Caddl123]

Hello everybody.. it sems that in the last seconds that helpless Owlbaby was looking iploring into the cam,as it want to say to us:

Hello..please help me..i cant hlp myself anymore,mummy is depressive (i think it,like she is standing aroundand does nothing) and my sister is dead..

[TheEbonchi]

Words like traumatized are a little out there. Parents are upset when their offspring die and it effects them but you sound like they carry long term scarring from it which i've only seen in humans which through many generations of breeding have issues with death and letting go, nature is nature. i don't expect to be helped when i'm sick. if i die i die. On the other hand i'm not that ok with being buried in a box. Just because we can stop the plague and heart attacks doesn't mean we should.

[lsoph9]

@TheEbonchi well hopefully if you got that sick you would go to a hospital but I get your point.

[cameliatoes]

When it was injured it was looking at the other one seeing if it was alright :(

Omg fml, why am I watching this on the first day of spring break :|

[6400az]

Just shamfull nothing was done.......just no other way to put it really. Yeah, sure....you don't want to interfere with nature. Isn't an artificial nest box interfering??Isn't sticking a camera up ther also interfereing?? You witness first hand an injured owl deteriorating day after day. Slowly dying in agony, and yet nothing is done.

WOW.....beyond appalling !!

[lsoph9]

@6400az Just want to be clear I as in me am not in charge of the box...I just recorded it from an Internet live cam.

[6400az]

@lsoph9

Yes,I am aware of that. I believe it's some wildlife agency Washington. Just wanted to leave an opinion is all.

[lsoph9]

@6400az ok....just wanted make sure and opinions are always welcomed....thanks!

[UshoudntHaveDoneThat]

I know I am very late with this but I was so sad watching this video. It hurts especially when you realize you cannot do anything about what is going on and you are literally watching the poor things pass away like this....poor little owls and mother. xo

[2alljoy]

There is little sense in saying not to help when help is possible because "it's just nature." So are bubonic plague, heart attacks or whatever just nature, but we expect to be helped. Poor creatures, including the depressed mother, but she may have been very traumatized by attempted help, too, thinking it yet another attack. As I understand, it was later generally deduced to be an attack from a predator, possibly another owl, when the parent was away from the nest.

[lsoph9]

@2alljoy it was another owl...there is a video somewhere on the Tube showing the attack.

[robocon2]

It's a damn shame, but this kind of thing happens often in nature. None of us like to see it, but it is part of the natural cycle. It brought tears to my eyes, but I know it is an all too real occurrence in nature.

[lsoph9]

been awhile since I watched this video...and then I watched the one I posted on my photobucket site..so sad! I am trying to figure out how to import the photobucket video to the Tube...it shows the unfortunate continuation of this situation.

[nicolinhas]

lol....

big comments!!!

[SugarKat]

I dont care if it costs money to make the owl better, if you couldnt afford the vet you could have atleast gone in there and put the poor thing out of its misery and wring its neck if you knew it was dying and you didnt want to pay for it to get better. It wouldnt have known so much pain dying like that otherwise! I know it seems mean but I think its more humain then watching it die slowly.

[lsoph9]

This is not my Barn Owl Nest and there was a lot of discussion with the Fish & Wildlife Department of Washington State as to whether or not they would intervene and they decided not to. Again this has nothing to do with me other than I made the video.

[KlaykidReal]

Holy shit, that owlet has... his innards exposed...

[xcherryxcherryx]

Its very irresponsible to say that it is nature, and for that reason we shouldn't do anything to help. If nobody's notices, the world is far from natural these days. As soon as these birds were watched with a man made device, and dying from something, that I'm willing to bet was caused by man, and to then watch as it suffers is simply cruel.

It is not the fact that it would have happened if no one was watching, its the fact that someone WAS watching and chose to do nothing about it.

[tiemedown]

you dont have to kill it, but at least providing some stitching and basic medical care and antibiodics could be the difference between life or death or a young animal. allowing any injured creature to remain in a state of suffering is a gross abuse of our intelligence and capability as humans. you could always say 'its nature and we cant interfere' but we have perverted the natural world so incredibly that to not provide aid is hypocrisy

[XantinovaX]

I have tried to save animals,most of the time they have to be let go because they are going to cost thousands of dollars.thousands of dollars.Save it or a child who needs medicine, It's not done for free yet.I couldn't even afford to EUTHANIZE the animals! It's sick but that's how it is until vets start volunteering the meds/care.I took in a pet that couldn't be saved without surgery, costed $2000 by the time I learned it would be another $2000 to give it medical care or a grand to euthanize it!

[tiemedown]

im talking about simple medical procedures not huge surgeries or grants, and not from the layman but the researchers who are watching these nests. with some antibiodics, hand rearing and bandaging to avoid staph this baby mightve made it. people take issue however with interfering with nature which is bull. any researcher can tell you human influence has trickled down to smaller hunting grounds for birds and more mobbing from crows, to refuse to help becuase its "nature" is illogical.

[XantinovaX]

I agree with the "it's nature" being a sad excuse -.- I think they absolutely should have interfered because I mean, it's only one nest not the whole country of barn owls, it's not going to ruin the natural order of things, if you have the power to stop it then I think you should eh?We've bandaged up a doe who was hit on the highway and had a broken leg, she healed and went on about her life, instead of 'naturally dieing" beside the road -.- even though it was a modern car that hit her -.-

[tiemedown]

seriously. its one thing to not interfere when a predator is attacking prey but when this kind of attacked could have been a consequence of human expansion, we have a duty to rectify the sitch, specially if theyre dying slowly in filthy conditions. also a study is going on that says owls dont imprint past the first week of their lives, so theres no reason not to help it.

[XantinovaX]

I do think that that some wild attacks like these have been happening due to the expansion of our cities and towns, and yes it makes sense that we have a bit of responsibility if we are so close that we can see the animals need help and there is time to help them.The owl was imprinted on its mother any way, so not much worry he wouldn't recognize her, she is who I would worry about when I put the baby back in the nest, she is already so traumatized she could attack it as an intruder or nuisance

[tiemedown]

you dont even have to return it. the mother was grieving the baby's death already. what i mean by imprinting is that if he is handreared, his influence from humans will not incringe upon his predator and mating instincts. with owl numbers decreasing we should be saving every baby we can

[xcherryxcherryx]

1. Why on earth would it cost a grand to euthanize?

2. I think it is completely unfair that an animal should have to die because we think that their life is not worth the money.

3. Being a vet is a FULL TIME JOB it requires YEARS of training. As it is they hardly make any money, and however sad it is that people are becoming somewhat afraid to take their pets to the vet, they are not the problem, and it is ridiculous and selfish that people should expect them to volounteer.

[XantinovaX]

the drug costs a grand to euthanize the animal, don't you know that capital punishment is extremely expensive? They quoted me $1050 to euthanize my pet. I did not have that money in any kind of account and it had already cost me $1000 to get my pet X-rays to see what was wrong and the drugs to help him. Who expects people to volunteer? Our vets are paid very very well, better than our nurses. All I said that they would have to volunteer the drug, not the work, the drug for euthanization.

[xcherryxcherryx]

Well I do happen to know how much it costs. About a week ago we had to get our chicken put down, and before anyone seya "its only a chicken", I raised from from an egg, she was my baby and it was devistating when she lost the power of her legs. The vet said it would cost $30, but since we were paying for an extra check over (to make sure there was nothing else wo could do) he did it for $15. I've also had two dogs put down as well, so either someone's telling porkies, or you got ripped off bad

[XantinovaX]

And certainly no one expects a professional to ever volunteer their time that would be ridiculous. Even to freeze my dogs gums to pull a tooth our vet said it was more worth it to let the tooth rot out than pay for the drug used for the freezing.

[xcherryxcherryx]

Also, what good vet would tell you to let your dog suffer in pain rather than spend a few bucks? You need a different vet.

[lsoph9]

it is what it is...nature

[pompomtea123]

That is not nature!!

that is Sick humans!!!!

i hope the people who do this all die and go 2 hell!!!

[peanutwars]

dude wtf?

[Nitsua9514]

I would have killed the owlet to put it out of its misery, I mean come on look at! Its beak is reipped up and so is its neck, the thing is walking around as if saying "Please, it hurts so much, pt me out the pain."

[Justinian43]

ok dude calm down the worst stupid excuse of human kind has been "lets put this poor animal out of misery"...Thats like giving up on it....If you were wounded walking around I bet you wouldn't be saying kill me please it hurts me...Just think I bet all the animals put out of misery Most didn't even wanna get killed they just want to be left alone in peace

[XantinovaX]

wow... where have you been?? Old folks in hospitals and people who are suffering DO ask for you to 'put them out of their misery' .... that's while people go to Switzerland for 'assisted suicide'.

[tiemedown]

euthanasia is unfortunetly necessary in some cases, i think they were referring to the euthanizing of healthy animals becuase they cost too much or are a burden. that is most definetly criminal. but your right in that in this situation the owl is slowly dying from shock, infection and internal damage. in this case if it is possible to hasten relief then such an action is understandable. seriously disturbs me though, i cant look at the poor babies face.( and the dead one it keeps walking over)

[HydeMiss84]

I think the same. It's like an human is in pain and egoisticaly the family said: come to make him still alive with a lot of pain, because we can't live without him...

I'm agree with you, it's mercy. And don't speak that is nature, they're living in a box near humans...

[neo3298]

great now iam depressed

[lsoph9]

I uploaded a new video to my photobucket site....in my last and final video of HUGO you can really see how sickly he was and that his health deteriorated significantly in a short period of time. This was video from before and after his last meal yesterday. Feel free to watch and post your comments here if you would like. I find them all very insightful.

[kittercat]

it wasn't the mom. Saw this in a forum about it from people who are following the deal.

"I just read that it's another pair of barn owls that attacked and killed the chicks in this nest box. Poor mama owl.. every time she goes out to hunt, her chick is in danger and she can't stay there to protect her baby all the time."

[lsoph9]

I wonder how they know it was an intruder for sure who did this?

[bobdmac]

Sorry for the double comment. Anyway, it was really sad because the owlet staggered around for a few minutes after the attack and then huddled up next to the mom.

I never have seen the dad, but I've only been watching it for about a week. It looks like there's a flash firing occasionally for still pictures. If so, you might have a photo of the attack.

[lsoph9]

My forum is wondering if Hugo can survive this...none of us have seen mom feed him. Have you?

[bobdmac]

Yes. She hasn't fed him directly, but she apparently brought another rodent, which he swallowed almost whole. In fact, somebody even posted a video of the wounded owlet eating something. It's titled Horrorshow Barn Owl Feeding."

[lsoph9]

Hugo tried to eat a pellet I have video of that and it was sickening to watch....glad you saw him eat and swallow a rodent...I am watching now!

[bobdmac]

I saw this happen. The mom attacked one owlet first, while it was feeding on a rodent she had just dropped in the box. by jumping on its back and pecking at it. Then it attacked the other, but it fought her off. You can see the neck and face wounds on the second owlet in this and other videos.

[lsoph9]

We are trying to figure out if the mom did this because they might be sick or maybe it was an intruder. I named to larger on Hugo and he is alive today to my surprise and many others. Mom was even preening him today and he seems to be healing. His right eye looks damaged and a biologist might be heading out to the nest soon.